Wich one is better to buy first? I've played saturn a lot when i was between 13 and 15 years old, is one of the legacy plattaforms i will buy, but i'm also want to buy a 3do too. The 3do i just saw by videos, never played.
Saturn oe 3DO (to buy)
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Well the 3DO has more and better high quality exclusives than the Saturn. 3DO has more AA titles than the Saturn while the Saturn has more AAA but it's overshadowed by A and lower games. 3DO also has a better variety in its games and the acessories at the time were not priced as high as the Saturns.Wich one is better to buy first? I've played saturn a lot when i was between 13 and 15 years old, is one of the legacy plattaforms i will buy, but i'm also want to buy a 3do too. The 3do i just saw by videos, never played.
thunderspider2
well I do own both consoles, but I only own about 13 3DO games, while I own 88 Saturn games, so my opinion on 3DO shouldn't be taken 100% seriously, as I simply don't have enough games for it but I will say the Saturn is the better system imo , nothing wrong with the 3DO , but the Saturn is just the better system .
that said the 3DO is certainly a system worth looking at.
well I do own both consoles, but I only own about 13 3DO games, while I own 88 Saturn games, so my opinion on 3DO shouldn't be taken 100% seriously, as I simply don't have enough games for it but I will say the Saturn is the better system imo , nothing wrong with the 3DO , but the Saturn is just the better system .
that said the 3DO is certainly a system worth looking at.
Darkman2007
Thanks.. i want to buy both.. but also want to choose the one to pick first, maybe this year
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]
well I do own both consoles, but I only own about 13 3DO games, while I own 88 Saturn games, so my opinion on 3DO shouldn't be taken 100% seriously, as I simply don't have enough games for it but I will say the Saturn is the better system imo , nothing wrong with the 3DO , but the Saturn is just the better system .
that said the 3DO is certainly a system worth looking at.
thunderspider2
Thanks.. i want to buy both.. but also want to choose the one to pick first, maybe this year
it really just depends on what genres you like.[QUOTE="thunderspider2"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]
well I do own both consoles, but I only own about 13 3DO games, while I own 88 Saturn games, so my opinion on 3DO shouldn't be taken 100% seriously, as I simply don't have enough games for it but I will say the Saturn is the better system imo , nothing wrong with the 3DO , but the Saturn is just the better system .
that said the 3DO is certainly a system worth looking at.
Darkman2007
Thanks.. i want to buy both.. but also want to choose the one to pick first, maybe this year
it really just depends on what genres you like. For example. the 3Do has more variety in genre than the Saturn for it's games. However the Saturn has a higher Genre-Quality ratio while some genres while more on the 3DO, are not very good games. While 3DO games are not talked about, it has more 8/10+ games then saturn, but the Satrun has many 7/10+ games and more 9/10+ games but not very many. Also some games that use acessories on the 3DO are more common say the saturn. 3DO however, severely lck in the fighting or Arcade department which is one of the Saturns stronger feats while the 3DO tries to even things out. However, Saturn's library of games is significantly bigger then the 3DO's as the 3DO has less games to choose from, however as I said the 3DO has(tries) more variety while the Saturn has less of a variety but because of it there are some pretty good games of specific genres in the Saturns library of games.Get a Saturn. The 3DO was not a very popular machine in the mid 90's - it's more in line with Turbographx 16 / Atari Jaguar / Philips CD-I, rather than Genesis / SNES / PS / Saturn / N64, in terms of popularity. As a result, despite having close to the same number of games released in the US (246 Saturn to 238 3DO), the quality of the Saturn library is much higher imo.
The 3DO doesn't have more of anything than the Saturn.
The 3DO only has 238 games (most of which are plain lackluster). And hardly any exclusives that aren't available (and alot better) on other systems.
The Saturn is a better system by a galaxy away.
The 3DO doesn't have more of anything than the Saturn.
The 3DO only has 238 games. And hardly any exclusives that aren't available (and alot better) on other systems.
The Saturn is a better system by a galaxy away.
Panzer_Zwei
well it is true that some of the well known 3DO exclusives like Road Rash , NFS , Gex etc, did make it to the Saturn.
though in 3DO's defence on that issue, in some cases the 3DO versions were better (Star Fighter comes to mind)
Get a Saturn. The 3DO was not a very popular machine in the mid 90's - it's more in line with Turbographx 16 / Atari Jaguar / Philips CD-I, rather than Genesis / SNES / PS / Saturn / N64, in terms of popularity. As a result, despite having close to the same number of games released in the US (246 Saturn to 238 3DO), the quality of the Saturn library is much higher imo.
orion_52
youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .
Incorrect, despite that the Saturn was more known, has a few more well known franchises, and sold more. it did have more variety, more high rated games compared to Saturn games. More optional ways to play games via acessories than the Saturn. Also a whole lot of other things. Going by personal-biased-popular opinion like yours we might as well say the Saturn 3DO and the Jaguar don't exist.The 3DO doesn't have more of anything than the Saturn.
The 3DO only has 238 games. And hardly any exclusives that aren't available (and alot better) on other systems.
The Saturn is a better system by a galaxy away.
Panzer_Zwei
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]well it is true that some of the well known exclusives like Road Rash , NFS , Gex ,The 3DO doesn't have more of anything than the Saturn.
The 3DO only has 238 games. And hardly any exclusives that aren't available (and alot better) on other systems.
The Saturn is a better system by a galaxy away.
Darkman2007
youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .Get a Saturn. The 3DO was not a very popular machine in the mid 90's - it's more in line with Turbographx 16 / Atari Jaguar / Philips CD-I, rather than Genesis / SNES / PS / Saturn / N64, in terms of popularity. As a result, despite having close to the same number of games released in the US (246 Saturn to 238 3DO), the quality of the Saturn library is much higher imo.
orion_52
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"] well it is true that some of the well known exclusives like Road Rash , NFS , Gex , [QUOTE="orion_52"]
Get a Saturn. The 3DO was not a very popular machine in the mid 90's - it's more in line with Turbographx 16 / Atari Jaguar / Philips CD-I, rather than Genesis / SNES / PS / Saturn / N64, in terms of popularity. As a result, despite having close to the same number of games released in the US (246 Saturn to 238 3DO), the quality of the Saturn library is much higher imo.
Panzer_Zwei
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish.youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"] well it is true that some of the well known exclusives like Road Rash , NFS , Gex , [QUOTE="orion_52"]
Get a Saturn. The 3DO was not a very popular machine in the mid 90's - it's more in line with Turbographx 16 / Atari Jaguar / Philips CD-I, rather than Genesis / SNES / PS / Saturn / N64, in terms of popularity. As a result, despite having close to the same number of games released in the US (246 Saturn to 238 3DO), the quality of the Saturn library is much higher imo.
Panzer_Zwei
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
now your comparing launch titles? In total overall the 3Do has less but higher scoring games. in total overall, the Saturn and Sega were way more knwon than the 3DO In total overall, their was more genra variety in the 3DO then Saturn regardless if the Saturn had better games in it's genre's because it focused on them more. etc.[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .Darkman2007
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish.I didn't heard it, I counted it myself.
You can go to sites like GameFaqs and see for yourself. Just remember to take out the different named regional releases, demos and other oddities.
not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
Panzer_Zwei
I didn't heard it, I counted it myself.
You can go to sites like GameFaqs and see for yourself. Just remember to take out the different named regional releases, demos and other oddities.
I see, Ill take your word for it. though i have to wonder how many of these games are dating sims and such .
youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .Darkman2007
Yeah if you include number of games worldwide Saturn has a lot more than 246 - I was just referring to US releases.
But if you include Japan it's really not a fair comparison between libraries, as some of the Saturn's best games were never released in the US. It still pains me that Dragon Force II never made it over.
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .orion_52
Yeah if you include number of games worldwide Saturn has a lot more than 246 - I was just referring to US releases.
But if you include Japan it's really not a fair comparison between libraries, as some of the Saturn's best games were never released in the US. It still pains me that Dragon Force II never made it over.
meh , playing imports on the Saturn is easy, just need a converter cartridge like the 4 in 1 and youre set. or you could just do a region mod, but thats a different matter. and it is fair, if you take both system's worldwide librarynow your comparing launch titles? In total overall the 3Do has less but higher scoring games. in total overall, the Saturn and Sega were way more knwon than the 3DO In total overall, their was more genra variety in the 3DO then Saturn regardless if the Saturn had better games in it's genre's because it focused on them more. etc.
Pegalamp
What are those higher scoring games? That is competely rubbish.
The SS had higher scoring games in any given region. It's third and first party support are on a total different level altogether.
You couldn't cover less than half of the SS quality title list even by putting everything that's worth playing on the 3DO.
The 3DO got barely any third party support. And even less when it came to exclusives.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish.Darkman2007
I didn't heard it, I counted it myself.
You can go to sites like GameFaqs and see for yourself. Just remember to take out the different named regional releases, demos and other oddities.
I see, Ill take your word for it. though i have to wonder how many of these games are dating sims and such .
Less than the interactive movie -type of games ratio on the 3DO.[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]
now your comparing launch titles? In total overall the 3Do has less but higher scoring games. in total overall, the Saturn and Sega were way more knwon than the 3DO In total overall, their was more genra variety in the 3DO then Saturn regardless if the Saturn had better games in it's genre's because it focused on them more. etc.
Panzer_Zwei
What are those higher scoring games? That is competely rubbish.
The SS had higher scoring games in any given region. It's third and first party support are on a total different level altogether.
You couldn't cover less than half of the SS quality title list even by putting everything that's worth playing on the 3DO.
The 3DO got barely any third party support. And even less when it came to exclusives.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]
now your comparing launch titles? In total overall the 3Do has less but higher scoring games. in total overall, the Saturn and Sega were way more knwon than the 3DO In total overall, their was more genra variety in the 3DO then Saturn regardless if the Saturn had better games in it's genre's because it focused on them more. etc.
Pegalamp
What are those higher scoring games? That is competely rubbish.
The SS had higher scoring games in any given region. It's third and first party support are on a total different level altogether.
You couldn't cover less than half of the SS quality title list even by putting everything that's worth playing on the 3DO.
The 3DO got barely any third party support. And even less when it came to exclusives.
I see. You have no clue whatsoever about what you're talking about, so that's why you evaded the question.
Feel free to post all those high-rated games that you just made up out of your arse (if you can find them).
Even on this site you can find a bunch of AAA Saturn games listed.
You have no arguments, whatsoever.
So because 1.you have no knowledge of the library 2.hate the FEW games you have PLAYED. 3. READ ONE magazine 4.Believe firts and 3rd Party support affect scores (lol) Basically because of ignorance, you are saying its rubbish for the 3DO to have a better quality-Crap ratio then the Saturn? The Jaguar has a better Quality-Crap rate then the Saturn and it barely has 100 games on it. Just because it has more popular games from a BRAND people ALREADY KNEW does not mean it had better scoring games.[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
What are those higher scoring games? That is competely rubbish.
The SS had higher scoring games in any given region. It's third and first party support are on a total different level altogether.
You couldn't cover less than half of the SS quality title list even by putting everything that's worth playing on the 3DO.
The 3DO got barely any third party support. And even less when it came to exclusives.
Panzer_Zwei
I see. You have no clue whatsoever about what you're talking about, so that's why you evaded the question.
Feel free to post all those high-rated games that you just made up out of your arse (if you can find them).
Even on this site you can find a bunch of AAA Saturn games listed.
You have no arguments, whatsoever.
In other words, there is nor arguement to be had, you already lost.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
[QUOTE="Pegalamp"] So because 1.you have no knowledge of the library 2.hate the FEW games you have PLAYED. 3. READ ONE magazine 4.Believe firts and 3rd Party support affect scores (lol) Basically because of ignorance, you are saying its rubbish for the 3DO to have a better quality-Crap ratio then the Saturn? The Jaguar has a better Quality-Crap rate then the Saturn and it barely has 100 games on it. Just because it has more popular games from a BRAND people ALREADY KNEW does not mean it had better scoring games.
Pegalamp
I see. You have no clue whatsoever about what you're talking about, so that's why you evaded the question.
Feel free to post all those high-rated games that you just made up out of your arse (if you can find them).
Even on this site you can find a bunch of AAA Saturn games listed.
You have no arguments, whatsoever.
In other words, there is nor arguement to be had, you already lost.
Nor GameSpot nor anywhere else. I don't care where you search.
A big chunk of the 3DO game library is made out interactive-movie type of games. And despite your groundless statements, the system has a high lackluster game ratio in spite of its relatively short game library.
But the fact of the matter is that you are wrong and are also lying. You're trying to make it seem like the 3DO has this big chunk of hidden gems that the brainwashed mainstream gaming audience never got a wind of. And that is completelty untrue.
The 3DO greatly lacked third and first party support. The list is right there.
Wait, so because there are no AAA games on Gamespot means there are no good games? Infact, it is not i who evaded the questions, but you not understanding what I am saying. it is arguable that there may have been unknwon enjoyable titles that might have helped the Saturn beat or match the PS1 because of lack of hype just like the same situation as the 3DO and Saturn. Acting like you, the Sautrn barely has any playable games and the reason why it sold so poorly with unknonw or un-popular games is because it sucked. You would defend that, but if I talk about the 3DO the same way you do what you are doing now. Acts of fanboyism.[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
I see. You have no clue whatsoever about what you're talking about, so that's why you evaded the question.
Feel free to post all those high-rated games that you just made up out of your arse (if you can find them).
Even on this site you can find a bunch of AAA Saturn games listed.
You have no arguments, whatsoever.
Panzer_Zwei
In other words, there is nor arguement to be had, you already lost.
You're trying to make it seem like the 3DO has this big chunk of hidden gems that the brainwashed mainstream gaming audience never got a wind of. And that is completelty untrue.
The 3DO greatly lacked third and first party support. The list is right there.
I'm not sure how anyone could argue that the 3DO had more higher scoring games. Maybe in retrospect the 3DO looks appealing, but honestly if you grew up a gamer in the 90's then you know that the 3DO was a fringe system with a limited library. I did not know a single person who owned one. Unless you are dying to play a specific niche game only available on 3DO, I would strongly recommend buying the Saturn.
Again, so because your friends did not have one (Most likely did not have a Saturn either) and it had a very unknown library of hidden gems not covered by popular sources like magazines (like the Saturn) that means the system is a POS. So basically you and Panzer are calling the systems your defending a POS by trying to call the 3DO a POS. Lol really?I'm not sure how anyone could argue that the 3DO had more higher scoring games. Maybe in retrospect the 3DO looks appealing, but honestly if you grew up a gamer in the 90's then you know that the 3DO was a fringe system with a limited library. I did not know a single person who owned one. Unless you are dying to play a specific niche game only available on 3DO, I would strongly recommend buying the Saturn.
orion_52
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .Darkman2007
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish. most I heard was 734 on EGM.Now you're just desperate.So how many 3Do games you have? 1? How do you know there aren't any gems? because you may have played 1-3 games? because websites don't list it's games? Why? because it was not POPULAR? You recently within the last few years started hearing about the Jaguar gems more and more but still only on a FEW sites. Otherwise Jaguar, PC-FX, CD-I games outside of Zelda, and etc. are examples of systems that YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED and are BIASED against that are NOT P{OPULAR that may have HIDDEN GEMS. Yes it lacks 1st, and 3rd party exclusive support, that does not mean it has NONE and has only BAD RUBBISH GAMES like your ignorance implies.
Pegalamp
Sites don't list the games. *hilarious*
The TOTAL list of 3DO games has been accounter for, just like with most every single other system in existence out there. I don't know on what age you think we live on. It doesn't matter how obscure or rare a game or a system is. Somebody always knows about it, has played it, or owns it.
And by the way. I actually own a PC-FX and 8 games. And I can, without a shadow of a doubt say in spite it has a small bunch of enjoyable games, it was a horrible system and the worst follow up to a successful console in history.
But seriously. You have no clue at all about what you're saying. I don't know if you're tried to look or something, pretending that you're "in the know".
I know the SS library perfectly, and I know what's on the 3DO. You're claims are ridiculous.
But if it makes you happy, you can go on fooling yourself and believing whaterver you want to believe.
Now you're just desperate.[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]
So how many 3Do games you have? 1? How do you know there aren't any gems? because you may have played 1-3 games? because websites don't list it's games? Why? because it was not POPULAR? You recently within the last few years started hearing about the Jaguar gems more and more but still only on a FEW sites. Otherwise Jaguar, PC-FX, CD-I games outside of Zelda, and etc. are examples of systems that YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED and are BIASED against that are NOT P{OPULAR that may have HIDDEN GEMS. Yes it lacks 1st, and 3rd party exclusive support, that does not mean it has NONE and has only BAD RUBBISH GAMES like your ignorance implies.
Panzer_Zwei
Sites don't list the games. *hilarious*
The TOTAL list of 3DO games has been accounter for, just like with most every single other system in existence out there. I don't know on what age you think we live on. It doesn't matter how obscure or rare a game or a system is. Somebody always knows about it, has played it, or owns it.
And by the way. I actually own a PC-FX and 8 games. And I can, without a shadow of a doubt say in spite it has a small bunch of enjoyable games, it was a horrible system and the worst follow up to a successful console in history.
But seriously. You have no clue at all about what you're saying. I don't know if you're tried to look or something, pretending that you're "in the know".
I know the SS library perfectly, and I know what's on the 3DO. You're claims are ridiculous.
But if it makes you happy, you can go on fooling yourself and believing whaterver you want to believe.
Again, so because your friends did not have one (Most likely did not have a Saturn either) and it had a very unknown library of hidden gems not covered by popular sources like magazines (like the Saturn) that means the system is a POS. So basically you and Panzer are calling the systems your defending a POS by trying to call the 3DO a POS. Lol really? I had and still have a Saturn. I am familiar with the 3DO library however - you're right there are a few hidden gems, but there are also a lot of ports and crappy games. And magazines such as EGM did cover 3DO, CD-I, and Jaguar games back in the day. Please enlighten us as to some of these so-called "hidden gems" only available on the 3DO, or with 3DO as the definitive version (I'll give you Star Control II). Here is a partial list for the Saturn (US only): Dragon Force, Guardian Heroes, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Nights into Dreams, Astal, Burning Rangers, Saturn Bomberman, Albert Odyssey, Panzer Dragon II Zwei, Mr. Bones, Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Cop, Baku Baku, Shining Force III.[QUOTE="orion_52"]
I'm not sure how anyone could argue that the 3DO had more higher scoring games. Maybe in retrospect the 3DO looks appealing, but honestly if you grew up a gamer in the 90's then you know that the 3DO was a fringe system with a limited library. I did not know a single person who owned one. Unless you are dying to play a specific niche game only available on 3DO, I would strongly recommend buying the Saturn.
Pegalamp
[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]Again, so because your friends did not have one (Most likely did not have a Saturn either) and it had a very unknown library of hidden gems not covered by popular sources like magazines (like the Saturn) that means the system is a POS. So basically you and Panzer are calling the systems your defending a POS by trying to call the 3DO a POS. Lol really? I had and still have a Saturn. I am familiar with the 3DO library however - you're right there are a few hidden gems, but there are also a lot of ports and crappy games. And magazines such as EGM did cover 3DO, CD-I, and Jaguar games back in the day. Please enlighten us as to some of these so-called "hidden gems" only available on the 3DO, or with 3DO as the definitive version (I'll give you Star Control II). Here is a partial list for the Saturn (US only): Dragon Force, Guardian Heroes, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Nights into Dreams, Astal, Burning Rangers, Saturn Bomberman, Albert Odyssey, Panzer Dragon II Zwei, Mr. Bones, Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Cop, Baku Baku, Shining Force III. Once again, I am saying there are good games on the staturn. You and him are saying because most games on the system are not exclusive, there are no good games. makes no snese no matter how you flip it. Where are you guys getting this from?[QUOTE="orion_52"]
I'm not sure how anyone could argue that the 3DO had more higher scoring games. Maybe in retrospect the 3DO looks appealing, but honestly if you grew up a gamer in the 90's then you know that the 3DO was a fringe system with a limited library. I did not know a single person who owned one. Unless you are dying to play a specific niche game only available on 3DO, I would strongly recommend buying the Saturn.
orion_52
[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]Again, so because your friends did not have one (Most likely did not have a Saturn either) and it had a very unknown library of hidden gems not covered by popular sources like magazines (like the Saturn) that means the system is a POS. So basically you and Panzer are calling the systems your defending a POS by trying to call the 3DO a POS. Lol really? I had and still have a Saturn. I am familiar with the 3DO library however - you're right there are a few hidden gems, but there are also a lot of ports and crappy games. And magazines such as EGM did cover 3DO, CD-I, and Jaguar games back in the day. Please enlighten us as to some of these so-called "hidden gems" only available on the 3DO, or with 3DO as the definitive version (I'll give you Star Control II). Here is a partial list for the Saturn (US only): Dragon Force, Guardian Heroes, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Nights into Dreams, Astal, Burning Rangers, Saturn Bomberman, Albert Odyssey, Panzer Dragon II Zwei, Mr. Bones, Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Cop, Baku Baku, Shining Force III.[QUOTE="orion_52"]
I'm not sure how anyone could argue that the 3DO had more higher scoring games. Maybe in retrospect the 3DO looks appealing, but honestly if you grew up a gamer in the 90's then you know that the 3DO was a fringe system with a limited library. I did not know a single person who owned one. Unless you are dying to play a specific niche game only available on 3DO, I would strongly recommend buying the Saturn.
orion_52
Don't bother. He obviously doesn't know.
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even know the 3DO library enough in the first place to tells us.
I had and still have a Saturn. I am familiar with the 3DO library however - you're right there are a few hidden gems, but there are also a lot of ports and crappy games. And magazines such as EGM did cover 3DO, CD-I, and Jaguar games back in the day. Please enlighten us as to some of these so-called "hidden gems" only available on the 3DO, or with 3DO as the definitive version (I'll give you Star Control II). Here is a partial list for the Saturn (US only): Dragon Force, Guardian Heroes, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Nights into Dreams, Astal, Burning Rangers, Saturn Bomberman, Albert Odyssey, Panzer Dragon II Zwei, Mr. Bones, Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Cop, Baku Baku, Shining Force III.[QUOTE="orion_52"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"] Again, so because your friends did not have one (Most likely did not have a Saturn either) and it had a very unknown library of hidden gems not covered by popular sources like magazines (like the Saturn) that means the system is a POS. So basically you and Panzer are calling the systems your defending a POS by trying to call the 3DO a POS. Lol really?
Panzer_Zwei
Don't bother. He obviously doesn't know.
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't doesn't even know the 3DO library enough to tells us.
yet you have mentioned not one 3DO game the entire argument and you say I know nothing about the 3DO libray? That is terrible Damage Control. Didn't even name the PC-FX games. Lying does not help you neither does Damage Controling.Now as I list a few Quality games in my 53 3DO collection:
Casper Some versions of the game are worse than others you just need to get the right version.
The bundled Crasn N Burn Dragons Lair.
On the Panasonic 3DO.
Escape from Monster Manor
PGA Tour
Burning Soldier.
Gex
John madden Football.
Need for Speed.
Nova Storm
Samurai Showdown
Phoenix 3
Wing Commander III.
Primal Rage
Road Rash
Slayer (not Halo)
Night trap
SFIIturbo
Super Wing Commader
Yes. I'm just lying to impress you. That's why I have uploaded a bunch of PC-FX videos YEARS AGO on this site that I ripped directly from my games. That's why I've reviewed a bunch of PC-FX games on this site too. And that's why I have the NEC banner on my signature, have had it for years.
All done just to impress you. (hilarious really)
But anyway, the PC-FX games I own are (and I own 9 games actually) : Tyoushin Heiki Zeroigar, Battle Heat, Der Langrisser FX, Team Innocent, Tekipaki Working Love FX, NIRGENDS, Konpeki no Kantai, Tengai Makyou : Karakuri Kakudoten and Galaxy Fraulein Yuna FX.
I even own Policenauts, Virtual Puppet : Reika, Ultraman Powered Up (total crap) and Gakkou no Kowai Usawa: Hanako-san ga Kite!! for the 3DO even though I've never owned the actual system.
And since we're on name gaming, I can put a bunch of great SS games out of my memorie without even trying to go too deep into it.
- Radiant Silvergun
- Dynamite Deka
- Shining Force III : Trilogy
- Shining the Holy Ark
- Panzer Dragoon
- Panzer Dragoon II : Zwei
- AZEL : Panzer Dragoon RPG
- Burning Rangers
- Daytona USA CCE
- SEGA Rally
- Astal
- Shin Shinobi X
- Assault Suit Leynos 2
- Clockwork Knight I & II
- NiGHTS : Into Dreams
- Dungeons & Dragons Collection
- Tengai Makyou IV : The Apocalypse
- Princess Crown
- Batsugun
- Battle Garegga
- Bulk Slash
- Fighters Megamix
- Last Bronx
- Fighting Vipers
- Dark Savior
- Cotton 2
- Guardian Heroes
- Hyper Duel
- Grandia
- Street Zero 3
- X-Men vs. Street Fighter
- Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter
- Prikura Daisakusen
- Deep Fear
- Enemy Zero
- The Story of Thor 2
- Gun Griffon
- Gun Griffon II
- Daina Airan
- Blue Seed
- Elevator Action Returns
- Dragon Force
- Dragon Force II
You're not joking are you? You really think that list you put up is impressive?
Those are the "hidden gems"?
(laughs) you are just too much.
Yes. I'm just lying to impress you. That's why I have uploaded a bunch of PC-FX videos YEARS AGO on this site that I ripped directly from my games. That's why I've reviewed a bunch of PC-FX games on this site too. And that's why I have the NEC banner on my signature, have had it for years.
All done just to impress you. (hilarious really)
But anyway, the PC-FX games I own are (and I own 9 games actually) : Tyoushin Heiki Zeroigar, Battle Heat, Der Langrisser FX, Team Innocent, Tekipaki Working Love FX, NIRGENDS, Konpeki no Kantai, Tengai Makyou : Karakuri Kakudoten and Galaxy Fraulein Yuna FX.
I even own Policenauts, Virtual Puppet : Reika, Ultraman Powered Up (total crap) and Gakkou no Kowai Usawa: Hanako-san ga Kite!! for the 3DO even though I've never owned the actual system.
And since we're on name gaming, I can put a bunch of great SS games out of my memorie without even trying to go too deep into it.
- Radiant Silvergun
- Dynamite Deka
- Shining Force III : Trilogy
- Shining the Holy Ark
- Panzer Dragoon
- Panzer Dragoon II : Zwei
- AZEL : Panzer Dragoon RPG
- Burning Rangers
- Daytona USA CCE
- SEGA Rally
- Astal
- Shin Shinobi X
- Assault Suit Leynos 2
- Clockwork Knight I & II
- NiGHTS : Into Dreams
- Dungeons & Dragons Collection
- Tengai Makyou IV : The Apocalypse
- Princess Crown
- Batsugun
- Battle Garegga
- Bulk Slash
- Fighters Megamix
- Last Bronx
- Fighting Vipers
- Dark Savior
- Cotton 2
- Guardian Heroes
- Hyper Duel
- Grandia
- Street Zero 3
- X-Men vs. Street Fighter
- Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter
- Prikura Daisakusen
- Deep Fear
- Enemy Zero
- The Story of Thor 2
- Gun Griffon
- Gun Griffon II
- Daina Airan
- Blue Seed
- Elevator Action Returns
- Dragon Force
- Dragon Force II
Panzer_Zwei
I could add a bit to that list
Virtua Cop 1 and 2
Virtua Fighter 2
Athlete Kings
Winter Heat
Dead or Alive
Sillhouette Mirage
Anarchy in the Nippon
Lunar and Lunar 2
Samurai Showdown 4 (SH3 also on the system)
King of Fighters 97 (KOF95 and 96 also )
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special (Real Bout 3 also on the system)
Metal Slug
Duke 3D
Exhumed
Quake
Waku Waku 7
Soviet Strike
Wipeout 2097
Go Go Goal
SWWS 98
just some I can think of .
Well the 3DO has more and better high quality exclusives than the Saturn. 3DO has more AA titles than the Saturn while the Saturn has more AAA but it's overshadowed by A and lower games. 3DO also has a better variety in its games and the acessories at the time were not priced as high as the Saturns.[QUOTE="thunderspider2"]
Wich one is better to buy first? I've played saturn a lot when i was between 13 and 15 years old, is one of the legacy plattaforms i will buy, but i'm also want to buy a 3do too. The 3do i just saw by videos, never played.
Pegalamp
this must be either a lie or a joke
the saturn has way more exclusive top titles than 3d0, 3do has one true world class exclusive game and that is star control 2 imo. other than that many great games but also many on multiple platforms.
pls take a look at my saturn games and ratings to see what is good
I could add a bit to that list
Virtua Cop 1 and 2
Virtua Fighter 2
Athlete Kings
Winter Heat
Dead or Alive
Sillhouette Mirage
Anarchy in the Nippon
Lunar and Lunar 2
Samurai Showdown 4 (SH3 also on the system)
King of Fighters 97 (KOF95 and 96 also )
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special (Real Bout 3 also on the system)
Metal Slug
Duke 3D
Exhumed
Quake
Waku Waku 7
Soviet Strike
Wipeout 2097
Go Go Goal
SWWS 98
just some I can think of .
Darkman2007
Like I said, I didn't want to go too deep into it, because that's my point. You will have to try very hard to bring out all the 3DO that are still worth playing,(not that there are many in the first place). While you can name a great amount of quality SS games without any effort.
Here are a small bunch of other games just for hell of it.
- Layer Section
- Daedalus
- Dragon Ball Z : Idainaru Densetsu
- Dragon Ball Z : Shin Butouden (PS version is a joke in comparison)
- Groove on Fight
- Guardian Force
- Keio Yugekitai 2
- Necronomicon
- Shinrei Jusatsushi : Taromaru
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] youre actually slightly wrong in regards to the number of games. the 3DO has 238 games worldwide, Saturn, at least worldwide , had well over 500 .Darkman2007
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish.there are website for collectors that hold these data like ww.satakora.com. saturn has over 800 games, not counting different versions of same games, like budget versions or reruns etc
in fact there's over 2000 saturn games counting different pal/usa/*** formats and budget versions.
Well the 3DO has more and better high quality exclusives than the Saturn. 3DO has more AA titles than the Saturn while the Saturn has more AAA but it's overshadowed by A and lower games. 3DO also has a better variety in its games and the acessories at the time were not priced as high as the Saturns.[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]
[QUOTE="thunderspider2"]
Wich one is better to buy first? I've played saturn a lot when i was between 13 and 15 years old, is one of the legacy plattaforms i will buy, but i'm also want to buy a 3do too. The 3do i just saw by videos, never played.
bultje112
this must be either a lie or a joke
the saturn has way more exclusive top titles than 3d0, 3do has one true world class exclusive game and that is star control 2 imo. other than that many great games but also many on multiple platforms.
pls take a look at my saturn games and ratings to see what is good
That's what I've been saying all along.
I mean, come on, it's just ridiculous.
I'm glad to see there's at least some sense on this post.
not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
The SS has over 800 games actually (more than the Mega Drive).
And even back then they couldn't give 3DO's away. The game line-up on print ads was just sad in comparison to even the early PS and SS game offerings.
bultje112
there are website for collectors that hold these data like ww.satakora.com. saturn has over 800 games, not counting different versions of same games, like budget versions or reruns etc
I don't know why it's so hard to believe though. I mean, 800 games isn't that many
The PC-ENGINE got above 500 CD-ROM games alone. The Dreamcast got around 700 games even.
[QUOTE="bultje112"]
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear it had over 800 games? Wiki says otherwise, but then Wiki occasionally talks rubbish.Panzer_Zwei
there are website for collectors that hold these data like ww.satakora.com. saturn has over 800 games, not counting different versions of same games, like budget versions or reruns etc
I don't know why it's so hard to believe though. I mean, 800 games isn't that many
The PC-ENGINE got above 500 CD-ROM games alone. The Dreamcast got around 700 games even.
well all those systems were popular in Japan , and as far as consoles, Japan was bigger (in terms of developers) , so its not too hard to believe. though I would like to add that I like the 3DO , at least from the 13 games i have for it, I disagree with that infamous gametrailers list which put it as one of the worst consoles ever. at the same time, I like the Saturn more , even though I have 88 games for it, there are still many I would like to get, that shows something.. and its not about sales like has been suggested , if it was about sales, none of us would vouch for the Saturn either, it sold alot better than 3DO ( literally a 5X difference) , but it wasn't exactly a huge success itself.[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="bultje112"]
there are website for collectors that hold these data like ww.satakora.com. saturn has over 800 games, not counting different versions of same games, like budget versions or reruns etc
Darkman2007
I don't know why it's so hard to believe though. I mean, 800 games isn't that many
The PC-ENGINE got above 500 CD-ROM games alone. The Dreamcast got around 700 games even.
well all those systems were popular in Japan , and as far as consoles, Japan was bigger (in terms of developers) , so its not too hard to believe. though I would like to add that I like the 3DO , at least from the 13 games i have for it, I disagree with that infamous gametrailers list which put it as one of the worst consoles ever. at the same time, I like the Saturn more , even though I have 88 games for it, there are still many I would like to get, that shows something.. and its not about sales like has been suggested , if it was about sales, none of us would vouch for the Saturn either, it sold alot better than 3DO ( literally a 5X difference) , but it wasn't exactly a huge success itself.according to satmag, japanese saturn magaizne there were 945 games released in japan for saturn. that's also the rankinjg they used. they eventually ranked all 945 games from 1 till last according to readers ratings
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="bultje112"]
there are website for collectors that hold these data like ww.satakora.com. saturn has over 800 games, not counting different versions of same games, like budget versions or reruns etc
Darkman2007
I don't know why it's so hard to believe though. I mean, 800 games isn't that many
The PC-ENGINE got above 500 CD-ROM games alone. The Dreamcast got around 700 games even.
well all those systems were popular in Japan , and as far as consoles, Japan was bigger (in terms of developers) , so its not too hard to believe. though I would like to add that I like the 3DO , at least from the 13 games i have for it, I disagree with that infamous gametrailers list which put it as one of the worst consoles ever. at the same time, I like the Saturn more , even though I have 88 games for it, there are still many I would like to get, that shows something.. and its not about sales like has been suggested , if it was about sales, none of us would vouch for the Saturn either, it sold alot better than 3DO ( literally a 5X difference) , but it wasn't exactly a huge success itself.I also love the 3do. I ran into it with some luck and went on a quest for games and I really love it but that's also because I love digital movies and typical mid/early 90s pc games
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="bultje112"]
there are website for collectors that hold these data like ww.satakora.com. saturn has over 800 games, not counting different versions of same games, like budget versions or reruns etc
Darkman2007
I don't know why it's so hard to believe though. I mean, 800 games isn't that many
The PC-ENGINE got above 500 CD-ROM games alone. The Dreamcast got around 700 games even.
well all those systems were popular in Japan , and as far as consoles, Japan was bigger (in terms of developers) , so its not too hard to believe. though I would like to add that I like the 3DO , at least from the 13 games i have for it, I disagree with that infamous gametrailers list which put it as one of the worst consoles ever. at the same time, I like the Saturn more , even though I have 88 games for it, there are still many I would like to get, that shows something.. and its not about sales like has been suggested , if it was about sales, none of us would vouch for the Saturn either, it sold alot better than 3DO ( literally a 5X difference) , but it wasn't exactly a huge success itself.Not as popular as the Saturn though. I mean, in terms of units sold, software released, third parties interest, the SS was the more popular console of those three.
Of course the Saturn benefited from a wider and more prolific game market than during the PC-ENGINE time, but you know what I'm saying.
Actually, I see the fact that the Dreamcast got over 700 games as more surprising.
well all those systems were popular in Japan , and as far as consoles, Japan was bigger (in terms of developers) , so its not too hard to believe. though I would like to add that I like the 3DO , at least from the 13 games i have for it, I disagree with that infamous gametrailers list which put it as one of the worst consoles ever. at the same time, I like the Saturn more , even though I have 88 games for it, there are still many I would like to get, that shows something.. and its not about sales like has been suggested , if it was about sales, none of us would vouch for the Saturn either, it sold alot better than 3DO ( literally a 5X difference) , but it wasn't exactly a huge success itself.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
I don't know why it's so hard to believe though. I mean, 800 games isn't that many
The PC-ENGINE got above 500 CD-ROM games alone. The Dreamcast got around 700 games even.
bultje112
I also love the 3do. I ran into it with some luck and went on a quest for games and I really love it but that's also because I love digital movies and typical mid/early 90s pc games
it was the begining of the 5th gen , and alot of new concepts were being created. hence why it has alot of everything , some of it works, some doesn't. although I would have been interested to see where the 3DO could go if it lasted longer, while the system wasn't as capable as the PS/Saturn (slower RAM , slower CPU , less bandwith , etc ) , Im not sure weve seen everything it had to offer . for instance , a 3DO version of something like Tomb Raider or a flagship 3D fighter (not that boxing game either) would have fared.well all those systems were popular in Japan , and as far as consoles, Japan was bigger (in terms of developers) , so its not too hard to believe. though I would like to add that I like the 3DO , at least from the 13 games i have for it, I disagree with that infamous gametrailers list which put it as one of the worst consoles ever. at the same time, I like the Saturn more , even though I have 88 games for it, there are still many I would like to get, that shows something.. and its not about sales like has been suggested , if it was about sales, none of us would vouch for the Saturn either, it sold alot better than 3DO ( literally a 5X difference) , but it wasn't exactly a huge success itself.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
I don't know why it's so hard to believe though. I mean, 800 games isn't that many
The PC-ENGINE got above 500 CD-ROM games alone. The Dreamcast got around 700 games even.
Panzer_Zwei
Not as popular as the Saturn though. I mean, in terms of units sold, software released, third parties interest, the SS was the more popular console of those three.
Of course the Saturn benefited from a wider and more prolific game market than during the PC-ENGINE time, but you know what I'm saying.
Actually, I see the fact that the Dreamcast got over 700 games as more surprising.
which 3 ? you mean PC Engine , 3DO and Saturn? Im not sure how much the PC Engine sold, I know the 3DO sold around 2 million , and the Saturn around 10 million.
Sega was suffering from some 3rd party issues during the DC era , but they made up for it in one way, the DC hardware was very good, meaning game development was easier/cheaper/quicker , so im not surprised it got to 700 games.
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