Of course sex sells.zeus_gb
thanx for your complex input:P
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Wait the gaming industry needs is a videogame equivelant of Warrant Officer Ripley. Someone who is strong and fearless, but still human. Characters like Samus and Alex are going in the right direction. Now, let me go day dream about an Aliens game that does the movie justice.nytrospawn
I agree. Personally, I find women such as these much more attractive.
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Most gamers are male teens to adults in their early 30s. Males like violence. See Halo and Grand Theft Auto. Males like cars. See Gran Turismo and Forza. Males like sports. See Madden and Wrestling. Males like women. See Tomb Raider and the DOA games. I see nothing wrong with powerful women in games. Most of these girls in games are kicking a** and taking names just as good as the guys are, ie DOA girls and Lara Craft. I would see something wrong with it if these girls were always needing saving or cooking and cleaning at home in games. I cant wait for more girls in games like Soul Caliber 4... 8)They should put some special weapon on those _ _ _ _ _:o it will kick ass, like in Austin Powers!!Carmilla31
[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]I think the trend started with Chun Li.
Her kicks man.... her kicks..... That's where fan service started.
That and maybe Final Fight with those sexy female gangs. Before that, I don't think video games chicks were detailed enough to really sell it with their bodies.
Then Tomb Raider really got it to mainstream.
gamingqueen
But girls in anime always look like that.
What about ffx-2 what made it sell? it was too empty for a role-playing game.
I disagree. FFX2 suffered from humor that was often bizarre rather than funny, too many j-pop elements, and a mostly lightweight plot (though the Ronso planning to avenge themselves on the Guado was pretty far from lightweight), but the return of the jobs systems (welcome and well-done), the strong combat system (it allowed for combos, interruptions and simulataneous attacks) and the mission based structure were all nice.
True but too bad it was wasted on such a game. They could make a seperate game with that system and it would sell as much.
I actually liked FFX-2, plot not withstanding. I doubt it could have sold any better as a non-FF game (the year it hit it was easily the bestselling rpg, outselling even KOTOR by a vast margin). Persona 3 is an incredible game, but it didn't even crack the top twenty the month of its release. The reason some companies cling to franchises is that many gamers cling to franchises.
I can honestly say I wouldn't buy a video game based on the old "sex sells" motto. I don't care if my character is male/female. As long as they can duel wield some uzis and do some kick-ass bullet time moves I honestly don't give a damn. >_>Galzakian
I'm much more attracted to girls in KOTOR (Bastila):
,
Jade Empire(Silk Fox):
,
Max Payne (Mona Sax):
(She can go bullet time and use dual Uzis and do cartwheel flips :D),
and Alyx:
, than those boobified T and A tarts you find in most games. The fact that you can develop relationships with them in Bioware games is the deepest thing ever, and they bring out the great writing and characterisation of the female characters.
Example of ugly women:
Elder Scrolls IV: OBLIVION
That's the prettiest woman I could find in the game! :lol:
How often are main male characters ugly or fat?Skie7
That´s the point.Whould women watch Brad Pitt or George Clooney Movies if he wasn´t good looking?No!
I think it´s natural that people prefer somehow attractive people.An big Boobs are a point that makes girls attractive for men.It´s all in the genes,man!:P
Most gamers are male teens to adults in their early 30s. Males like violence. See Halo and Grand Theft Auto. Males like cars. See Gran Turismo and Forza. Males like sports. See Madden and Wrestling. Males like women. See Tomb Raider and the DOA games. I see nothing wrong with powerful women in games. Most of these girls in games are kicking a** and taking names just as good as the guys are, ie DOA girls and Lara Craft. I would see something wrong with it if these girls were always needing saving or cooking and cleaning at home in games. I cant wait for more girls in games like Soul Caliber 4... 8) Carmilla31
Nice of you pigeon-hole all males, as some base and primitive sub-species who exist to fulfil their atavistic desires.
Wait the gaming industry needs is a videogame equivelant of Warrant Officer Ripley. Someone who is strong and fearless, but still human. Characters like Samus and Alex are going in the right direction. Now, let me go day dream about an Aliens game that does the movie justice.nytrospawn
I couldn't agree more. Although I suppose we could ask was Ripley slightly masculine, do women need to behave more like men to gain authority and respect?
who is gonna want to play as the 300 lbs lady or the flat-chested chick the looks pretty much like a boy? It's not necessailry that people are exploiting sexuality but that people want to play as people they relate to/like to have relations with.
Couldnt I say that game characters are overly masculinized also? Duke Nukem, GeoW, GoW, Killzone, etc etc. Big dudes with 6 packs and big pecs? Videogames are fantasies and most fantasies concern the ideological person and body type
Most gamers are male teens to adults in their early 30s. Males like violence. See Halo and Grand Theft Auto. Males like cars. See Gran Turismo and Forza. Males like sports. See Madden and Wrestling. Males like women. See Tomb Raider and the DOA games. I see nothing wrong with powerful women in games. Most of these girls in games are kicking a** and taking names just as good as the guys are, ie DOA girls and Lara Craft. I would see something wrong with it if these girls were always needing saving or cooking and cleaning at home in games. I cant wait for more girls in games like Soul Caliber 4... 8)Carmilla31
Dude....she's hot. I guess its safe to say carrying a weapon and having huge boobs makes you super hot
who is gonna want to play as the 300 lbs lady or the flat-chested chick the looks pretty much like a boy? It's not necessailry that people are exploiting sexuality but that people want to play as people they relate to/like to have relations with.
Couldnt I say that game characters are overly masculinized also? Duke Nukem, GeoW, GoW, Killzone, etc etc. Big dudes with 6 packs and big pecs? Videogames are fantasies and most fantasies concern the ideological person and body type
CameosisJ
Ah, but what about Max Payne:
And Lucas Kane:
?
But it's true, these are only the exceptions to the rule to male heroes.
Wait the gaming industry needs is a videogame equivelant of Warrant Officer Ripley. Someone who is strong and fearless, but still human. Characters like Samus and Alex are going in the right direction. Now, let me go day dream about an Aliens game that does the movie justice.nytrospawn
That kinda reminds me,Boomer from BSG=hot female thats just bad @ss and smart which is a total turn on(the new boomer not the old boomer who was a black guy >>')
oh yeah and how are you guys getting ur avatar to fit cuz mine won't.Treblemaka
I really don't know but you should ask in the newbie section. They should be able to tell you
Its like...I dont care really. I would say the people who cry about this are just as bad as the ones who buy games just for them, I would say even worse lol.
Here is how I see it...Does it ruin the game? Sure SC4 bust size for the females is a joke lol. I mean Im crying at it lol. But like...If the game is good. Who cares?
Its like...I dont care really. I would say the people who cry about this are just as bad as the ones who buy games just for them, I would say even worse lol.
Here is how I see it...Does it ruin the game? Sure SC4 bust size for the females is a joke lol. I mean Im crying at it lol. But like...If the game is good. Who cares?
Shinoto
On one hand I agree with you, but on the other hand, I don't want to see those things flying around the screen. And it makes the females in the game look really unattractive.
who is gonna want to play as the 300 lbs lady or the flat-chested chick the looks pretty much like a boy? It's not necessailry that people are exploiting sexuality but that people want to play as people they relate to/like to have relations with.
Couldnt I say that game characters are overly masculinized also? Duke Nukem, GeoW, GoW, Killzone, etc etc. Big dudes with 6 packs and big pecs? Videogames are fantasies and most fantasies concern the ideological person and body type
CameosisJ
Amen!!
On one hand I agree with you, but on the other hand, I don't want to see those things flying around the screen. And it makes the females in the game look really unattractive.
muthsera666
The heck??!!
I'm not totally against the 'sex sells' idea, but Rachel from NG really is one of the dumbest character designs I've ever seen. I've just been playing Episode One and I totally love Alyx :P - although, she actually does have a highly detailed nude mod online. Another female character who is really the perfect 'real woman' is Jenny Romano from The Darkness. Any thoughts on Jenny?
[QUOTE="Tuvac"]Most male characters in games are oversexualized as well, why don't I ever see anyone posting about that?mechworrior762
Get a life.
HA HA HA! Get a life
On one hand I agree with you, but on the other hand, I don't want to see those things flying around the screen. And it makes the females in the game look really unattractive.
muthsera666
The heck??!!
Apparently, I'm the only one who doesn't find humongeous breasts unattractive. I guess I'm more into the athletic build. Like the female playable characters in Jade Empire, Alyx from Half-Life 2, and Jade from Beyond Good & Evil.
Sorry. I just find Ivy's newest set to be a lot over what is needed.
Apparently, I'm the only one who doesn't find humongeous breasts unattractive. I guess I'm more into the athletic build. Like the female playable characters in Jade Empire, Alyx from Half-Life 2, and Jade from Beyond Good & Evil.Sorry. I just find Ivy's newest set to be a lot over what is needed.
muthsera666
Why do you need to be attracted to videogame characters? Fap much?
[QUOTE="muthsera666"]Apparently, I'm the only one who doesn't find humongeous breasts unattractive. I guess I'm more into the athletic build. Like the female playable characters in Jade Empire, Alyx from Half-Life 2, and Jade from Beyond Good & Evil.Sorry. I just find Ivy's newest set to be a lot over what is needed.
Ninety-2
Why do you need to be attracted to videogame characters? Fap much?
why do you care?
[QUOTE="muthsera666"]Apparently, I'm the only one who doesn't find humongeous breasts unattractive. I guess I'm more into the athletic build. Like the female playable characters in Jade Empire, Alyx from Half-Life 2, and Jade from Beyond Good & Evil.Sorry. I just find Ivy's newest set to be a lot over what is needed.
Ninety-2
Why do you need to be attracted to videogame characters? Fap much?
It's hard to playa game if you are repulsed by the onscreen characters...
Well, here's my take-
We all have to admit, somewhere deep down, that this industry is run by geeks...or former geeks. The vast majority of us grew up, which is why the average age of a game player is now 33 years old, but our roots lie in "geekdom." We're all adulst now, so we really shouldn't be denying that. It's far more of a mainstream entertainment venue now, and a lot of those archaic stereotypes no longer ring true, but they did at one point. It's kinda how stereotypes get started; they're typically based in some truth. Furthermore, it was mostly a male-dominated hobby (and it still is, for the most part). Considering all this, my theory is simple-
The geeks who made - and still make - the games have free reign to develop the woman of the their dreams...or, more specifically, the woman they could never get. The woman none of us could ever get. It's the only entertainment area where the creators can actually mold the characters to their own visions, and based on the creators themselves and their target audience, it's no real surprise to see impossibly formed females. And just for a minute, I'm going to bring a little of my training into this: from a psychological standpoint, there's something significant behind a socially awkward individual having full control of a super vixen whose skills and body defy both physics and reality in general. Isn't there? Think about it.
So we have the Lara Crofts and the girls of DoA. But the outcry generated by these oversexed heroines does appear to have had some impact: look at one of the most recent female main characters; Nariko, from Heavenly Sword. Yes, she's abnormally beautiful, but her chest - while still larger than average - is never emphasized by the design team at Ninja Theory, and it's never made to be a focus. Yes, she wears typically skimpy clothing, which certainly appeals to their target audience and is highly unrealistic (it's not exactly tactical for a warrior, male or female, to dress like that), but it's still different than Lara Croft. The character is drawn differently and the personality is different; it's more down-to-earth and sympathetic, yet strong and willful. It's more human, which I think is a good direction for the industry.
But as to why games have a lot of top-heavy women...well, I've always thought that was relatively obvious.
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