Should Batman Arkham City be coop?

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#1 UnlceDock
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I really hope that its coop this time around, even if its not integrated coop, this would be the perfect game to bring back the glory days of double dragon and tmnt. I've been hoping for a real next gen coop beat em up game for a very long time. But if they do integrate coop into the story I hope catwoman is not the second character. It should be nightwing.
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#2 Coolyfett
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Coolyfett feels that coop is an important feature for the Batman franchise. No question about it. Tim Drake needs more exposure, he is a very great character, but seems to always be left out of the mix. Adding Tim Drake as a playable hero, with exclusive move set would be the dopeness. DC needs to do this.

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#3 Coolyfett
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Tim Drake has been the boy wonder for at least 20 years now, its time to feature him in the series. He is just as good of a teammate as NightWing was when he was with Batman.

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#4 KlepticGrooves
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No, please oh please not anotherCo-Op feature. It's a single player game and it should really stay that way. The best thing about Batman: AA was the loneliness and hiding alone in the shadows.

Having another player would take away from the atmosphere.

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#5 warmaster670
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No, please oh please not anotherCo-Op feature. It's a single player game and it should really stay that way. The best thing about Batman: AA was the loneliness and hiding alone in the shadows.

Having another player would take away from the atmosphere.

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Co-OP>Single player.

And you act as though you would be forced to play with someone else.

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#6 KlepticGrooves
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[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

No, please oh please not anotherCo-Op feature. It's a single player game and it should really stay that way. The best thing about Batman: AA was the loneliness and hiding alone in the shadows.

Having another player would take away from the atmosphere.

warmaster670

Co-OP>Single player.

And you act as though you would be forced to play with someone else.

I just don't see the point of Co-Op in a Single player game like Batman: AA.

Maybe in another Batman series Co-Op would be more suited, but in the Arkham series it doesn't seem to fit.

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#7 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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It'll be one of those games that doesn't need co op. I'm tired of seeing needless sequels, games with tacked on multiplayer and co op just for the hell of it. AA1 was a fantastic game that didn't need co op, and it's sequel probably won't either.
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#8 dakan45
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Hell no, enough ruining good games with coop just for the sake of it (resident evil 5) and making them sandbox games with repettive missions when it could be an awesome linear and epic compaign.
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#9 UnlceDock
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What is with you single player purists? It doesn't have to be intergrated into the story but the option would be nice.
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Only way i would like to see co op in is possible a side story or worked in to the challenge maps, i want the core game to remain single player unless co op is worked in really well. If we do see any co op by the looks of it we would see Cat woman and Batman and not Robin.
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#11 millerlight89
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As long as it does not take away from the rest of the game idc. Though I am getting tired of the whole CO-OP scene tbh.
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[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

No, please oh please not anotherCo-Op feature. It's a single player game and it should really stay that way. The best thing about Batman: AA was the loneliness and hiding alone in the shadows.

Having another player would take away from the atmosphere.

warmaster670

Co-OP>Single player.

And you act as though you would be forced to play with someone else.

In a lot of cases co-op isn't better than single player. (Look at Resident Evil 5)

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I say bring in Robin as CO-OP for the first half of the game. Then have the Joker creatively and brutally murder him. I think this will make everyone happy. Because if co-op sucks, you'ld be happy he died. And if it's great you'ld be pissed and would want to avenge the death of your lil' buddy.

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#14 jks22112
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Co-op would have to be through online I would think, but if Arkham City is similar to Asylum, I think co-op would be great for it. They should have a system with the bat vision to kind of form a plan of stealth attacks. That would be awesome I think.
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VladJasonDrac thinks co-op in Batman would be a shame.

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I say bring in Robin as CO-OP for the first half of the game. Then have the Joker creatively and brutally murder him. I think this will make everyone happy. Because if co-op sucks, you'ld be happy he died. And if it's great you'ld be pissed and would want to avenge the death of your lil' buddy.

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Robin get killed? Come on now you can't kill off Drake. THis sin't Jason Todd we're talking about.

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#17 brandon2802
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I don't know how you guys are thinking co-op would work. I don't see anything from the first game that would have been better with co-op. Just leave that to Brave and the Bold.
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What is with you single player purists? It doesn't have to be intergrated into the story but the option would be nice. UnlceDock
From all the games i played when coop comes in place, the main character loses a large dose of focus and the story is taking multiple steps back for the gameplay to be more fun with multiple players, same goes for the atmosphere, examples: resident evil 5, gears of war. Now example of games being better because of focusing on a single character, batman aa ofcourse and uncharted. Another example will be fear 3 in the future, you will see that as a coop its no longer scary or have that atmosphere and the story will dissapear and end up into yet another game that 2 characters run around and kill stuff rather the game having a deep emotional/story/atmospheric feeling or solo compaign.
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#19 branketra
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I'll play if it's like the Teen Titans co-op; They are going for a common goal but they aren't fighting side by side all the time. Also, Nightwing or his Robin-version.
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#20 lamprey263
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no no no no no, don't ruin single player games by introducing a feature that will hinder proper development, you have like countless games for co-op already
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#21 DaX_Factor
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[QUOTE="DaX_Factor"]

I say bring in Robin as CO-OP for the first half of the game. Then have the Joker creatively and brutally murder him. I think this will make everyone happy. Because if co-op sucks, you'ld be happy he died. And if it's great you'ld be pissed and would want to avenge the death of your lil' buddy.

jasonharris48

Robin get killed? Come on now you can't kill off Drake. THis sin't Jason Todd we're talking about.

Just kill my dreams why don't cha. :P I was wondering when some someone was going to refer to Jason Todd. You saw right through me. I used to own that comic until...mom................... I don't want to talk about it:evil:

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#22 yagr_zero
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I'd like to see a Robin in the next game, but I'm not sure as how they'd manage to make it coop and keep the same level of fun as the single-player campaign.
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#23 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="DaX_Factor"]

I say bring in Robin as CO-OP for the first half of the game. Then have the Joker creatively and brutally murder him. I think this will make everyone happy. Because if co-op sucks, you'ld be happy he died. And if it's great you'ld be pissed and would want to avenge the death of your lil' buddy.

DaX_Factor

Robin get killed? Come on now you can't kill off Drake. THis sin't Jason Todd we're talking about.

Just kill my dreams why don't cha. :P I was wondering when some someone was going to refer to Jason Todd. You saw right through me. I used to own that comic until...mom................... I don't want to talk about it:evil:

Aww now you have to tell the story

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[QUOTE="UnlceDock"]What is with you single player purists? It doesn't have to be intergrated into the story but the option would be nice. dakan45
From all the games i played when coop comes in place, the main character loses a large dose of focus and the story is taking multiple steps back for the gameplay to be more fun with multiple players, same goes for the atmosphere, examples: resident evil 5, gears of war. Now example of games being better because of focusing on a single character, batman aa ofcourse and uncharted. Another example will be fear 3 in the future, you will see that as a coop its no longer scary or have that atmosphere and the story will dissapear and end up into yet another game that 2 characters run around and kill stuff rather the game having a deep emotional/story/atmospheric feeling or solo compaign.

Hears the thing about that. I've played the uncharted 2 campaign once. It was great, I absolutely loved it, but I have yet to play it again. I've played the Gears of War 2 campaign about 10 times. Funny thing is I don't even consider the gears campaign to be better but coop just gives a game way more replayability. I agree that story often suffers because of coop... I'd say splinter cell conviction probably did it best by giving both. Had that game been single player only I wouldn't have wasted 60 bucks on it. I pay 50 bucks for live so I need games with coop to justify that. I love a great story too but I don't replay single player campaigns often so coop for me means the difference between a rental and a purchase.
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#25 wiouds
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Only if Co-op is a not a part of the main story.

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#26 JayQproductions
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NO! unless it's like MW2 spec ops where its just random short missions and not a part of the actual story. besides, i think co-op works better in free-roam or atleast large worlds, not linear levels like Batman:AA was and Batman:AC will be. and co-op wouldnt really work with the fighting style that was in AA it would be way to sloppy looking and feeling and the smooth flow of combat was a big part of AA's success, plus after all the crappy batman games they finally found a hit with AA so i doubt they will change it to much, same Metroid style levels where it's overall large but still linear and only as you upgrade your abilities will you be able to reach new area's from area's you've already been more than once, new enemies, few new gadgets, and thats prolly gonna be Batman:AC

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#27 evil_angel74
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If they make it a stand-alone mode, and if it doesn't detract from the single player, then it would be awesome. I think they are smart enough to know that a Resi 5 style co-op is totally out of the question. However a splinter cell take wouldn't be too bad. But as I said, assuming that the co-op doesn't mean less time developing the single player.
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#28 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="UnlceDock"]What is with you single player purists? It doesn't have to be intergrated into the story but the option would be nice. UnlceDock
From all the games i played when coop comes in place, the main character loses a large dose of focus and the story is taking multiple steps back for the gameplay to be more fun with multiple players, same goes for the atmosphere, examples: resident evil 5, gears of war. Now example of games being better because of focusing on a single character, batman aa ofcourse and uncharted. Another example will be fear 3 in the future, you will see that as a coop its no longer scary or have that atmosphere and the story will dissapear and end up into yet another game that 2 characters run around and kill stuff rather the game having a deep emotional/story/atmospheric feeling or solo compaign.

Hears the thing about that. I've played the uncharted 2 campaign once. It was great, I absolutely loved it, but I have yet to play it again. I've played the Gears of War 2 campaign about 10 times. Funny thing is I don't even consider the gears campaign to be better but coop just gives a game way more replayability. I agree that story often suffers because of coop... I'd say splinter cell conviction probably did it best by giving both. Had that game been single player only I wouldn't have wasted 60 bucks on it. I pay 50 bucks for live so I need games with coop to justify that. I love a great story too but I don't replay single player campaigns often so coop for me means the difference between a rental and a purchase.

I am sorry but i dont see how that counters my point. We single player purists liked batman aa for the wa it told the story and you played as a single character and experiance the atmosphere and the moments, that alone made be replay the game multiple times, same with uncharted. You said its more fun to play coop with someone else, personally, i always thought that when i play with someone else the game atmosphere is getting scrapped for running around doing stupid things and lough about it. It kills the direction and atmosphere the game had. That did happen heavilly with resident evil 5 and turn the game into a action game with coop in comparison with what the first was. So yeah if batman goes coop, it will loose everything that the first stood for and turn into another action game. Thats the deal with us singleplayer purists. We appreciate a well made solo compaign more than a gimmick coop mode just for the shake of it which usually ruins the main story.
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Co-Op would just kill it, I wouldn't mind co-op in those challenges though.
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#30 wiouds
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You know story about two that goes to different location. Like Batman watch as Joker's men is getting shipments from a warehouse. Batman sends two of his allies to find out about what is at the warehouse. In the single player Batman just send the two and later get some information.

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Every game should be coop. No coop = no purchase from me, guaranteed.

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#32 wiouds
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Every game should be coop. No coop = no purchase from me, guaranteed.

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You must miss out onmany great game because they are no co-op.

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I really hope that its coop this time around, even if its not integrated coop, this would be the perfect game to bring back the glory days of double dragon and tmnt. I've been hoping for a real next gen coop beat em up game for a very long time. But if they do integrate coop into the story I hope catwoman is not the second character. It should be nightwing.UnlceDock

Why does every game have to have co-op?

Would you have nightwing as another batman with a different skin? Or a character with a different move set? Having a different moveset also means that you're basically limiting both characters by assigning specific moves to each character when you can basically give one character the whole toolset. Also you might run into balancing problems if you try to make the game co-op based, like RE5 where the companion AI is simply not up to par.

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#34 EvilTaru
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="UnlceDock"]What is with you single player purists? It doesn't have to be intergrated into the story but the option would be nice. UnlceDock
From all the games i played when coop comes in place, the main character loses a large dose of focus and the story is taking multiple steps back for the gameplay to be more fun with multiple players, same goes for the atmosphere, examples: resident evil 5, gears of war. Now example of games being better because of focusing on a single character, batman aa ofcourse and uncharted. Another example will be fear 3 in the future, you will see that as a coop its no longer scary or have that atmosphere and the story will dissapear and end up into yet another game that 2 characters run around and kill stuff rather the game having a deep emotional/story/atmospheric feeling or solo compaign.

Hears the thing about that. I've played the uncharted 2 campaign once. It was great, I absolutely loved it, but I have yet to play it again. I've played the Gears of War 2 campaign about 10 times. Funny thing is I don't even consider the gears campaign to be better but coop just gives a game way more replayability. I agree that story often suffers because of coop... I'd say splinter cell conviction probably did it best by giving both. Had that game been single player only I wouldn't have wasted 60 bucks on it. I pay 50 bucks for live so I need games with coop to justify that. I love a great story too but I don't replay single player campaigns often so coop for me means the difference between a rental and a purchase.

Uncharted 2 has online co-op specifically for that purpose and it's incredibly fun, in the campaign you're not always fighting along side someone to begin with, you can't just force co-op in there, balancing-wise having another human player means you basicallyhave to tune the game all over again, your weapon placement, enemy AI all have to be retuned for co-op, it's not that simple and unless you have a different gameplay set-up for both SP and co-op, one of your modes is going to be unbalanced. RE5 is the poster-child of making a game co-op oriented and ended up hurting the SP experience.

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#35 Flame_Blade88
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As a multiplayer extra like Uncharted 2 has it wouldn't be a bad idea. I wouldn't want to see it integrated into the campaign though.
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#36 zeorshadow19
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Who the hell is Coop? I want me some Nightwing!

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#37 cutebrute
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Only in the challenge rooms. AA was about story and atmosphere, and Co-op would take away from that. Also, it would make the design process hell for Rocksteady, and it wouldn't be worth potientally compromising the game.

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#38 unknown37
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I think it would be ok to have in the challenge modes, though I'd rather it not be in the single player game.

It would be cool to have one person as Batman and another as Robin or something for the stealth challenge parts.