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#1 ricosuave84
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i hear people complain a lot saying that certain games sre too short but honeslty i dont mind when games are on the short side. for me it keeps the game from being repetative and short games usally have good pacing so u wanna keep on playing instead of stopping to take a break. of course when i say short i dont mean the game should last 4 hours but a 8 hour campaign isnt to bad imo. what does everyone else think?

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#2 Smallville417
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For the high cost of games, I much prefer a longer game vs shorter. I've enjoyed the shorter games, such as Call of Duty 4, but usually I am having so much fun and before I know it the game is over.
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#3 FiddleJohnny
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I only enjoy games that are very long. That way I can actually remember something from that game. I used to play this game called Lionheart not the best graphics and all but it was a long game and I enjoyed it. That's my opinion. :)
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#4 ricosuave84
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For the high cost of games, I much prefer a longer game vs shorter. I've enjoyed the shorter games, such as Call of Duty 4, but usually I am having so much fun and before I know it the game is over.Smallville417
i can see ur point about cost but with games like call of duty i feel like u get your moneys worth cuz besides fromthe campaign usally beingshort (but epic) you get to continue playing online for months and months so it never gets boring and you keep playing.

btw new episode of smallville airs tonite i think im excited :)

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#5 ricosuave84
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I only enjoy games that are very long. That way I can actually remember something from that game. I used to play this game called Lionheart not the best graphics and all but it was a long game and I enjoyed it. That's my opinion. :)FiddleJohnny
you also make a good point but idk in my opinion when games are shorter i have a easier time remembering all the small details while in longer games i might forget some of the smaller details because the game is too long. also when a games shorter i have the incentive to go back and and beat it again where as with longer games im not sure if i want to go through the ENTIRE ordeal again you know. =/

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#6 Smallville417
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[QUOTE="Smallville417"]For the high cost of games, I much prefer a longer game vs shorter. I've enjoyed the shorter games, such as Call of Duty 4, but usually I am having so much fun and before I know it the game is over.ricosuave84

i can see ur point about cost but with games like call of duty i feel like u get your moneys worth cuz besides fromthe campaign usally beingshort (but epic) you get to continue playing online for months and months so it never gets boring and you keep playing.

Call of Duty 4 was probably a bad example for me to use, because the multiplayer is so fun, so yes it was well worth the cost. I am one of those people though that really enjoys a good solo or two player campaign, and I tend to judge the game on that.
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#7 ricosuave84
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[QUOTE="ricosuave84"]

[QUOTE="Smallville417"]For the high cost of games, I much prefer a longer game vs shorter. I've enjoyed the shorter games, such as Call of Duty 4, but usually I am having so much fun and before I know it the game is over.Smallville417

i can see ur point about cost but with games like call of duty i feel like u get your moneys worth cuz besides fromthe campaign usally beingshort (but epic) you get to continue playing online for months and months so it never gets boring and you keep playing.

Call of Duty 4 was probably a bad example for me to use, because the multiplayer is so fun, so yes it was well worth the cost. I am one of those people though that really enjoys a good solo or two player campaign, and I tend to judge the game on that.

yea so do i but idk for me its like i loved MGS4's story but because its so long i wouldnt go back to play it again at least not for a month or 2. but with uncharted seeing that it was shorter and equally as good IMO i played itagain right after beating itbecause i knew it wasnt that long so id be able to experience all the good parts again reletively quickly. thats how i sees it :)

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#8 ace-of-spades93
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it really depends on the game. If it's CoD i like a relatively short single player because it's usually not that great or compelling, and i really just want to get it over with and get into MP. But with games like bioshock or mass effect i'd much rather have a longer game because i feel emotionally invested in the charecters and the plot and enjoy watching them pan out :)
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It's hard for me to form a good opinion on if I want a game long or short. It depends on my mood I guess. :D Gears of War: Never wanted it to end. I was having so much fun and it ended too quickly. Red Faction (PS2) : Way to drawn out IMO. Game got frustrating later on, I invested a ton of time took a lot longer to end than I would have liked. I guess it would depend on the game. :D Because when I look at it, it is a good thing Gears was so short. Had it been longer, perhaps I would've gotten bored? I never like to hope a game is going to end, that means that I'm probably not having much fun. I can give a high recommendation to a game I enjoyed from start to finish. When I buy a game, especially if it is expensive, I want to get a lot of playtime out of it. This leads me to believe that price is also a factor for me. If I buy a $2 game, do I care if it's only 2 hours long? Heck no. That's $2 well spent! But if I buy a game for say $40, is a 6-8 hour campaign going to satisfy me? Most likely it will if the game is fun, but I'll only hope for more. My solution? Buy more than one game at a time. It will take longer (Swapping games back and forth :P) and if you get one short and one long, their combined cost seems worth it. On one hand you have a great (though short) experience and on the other you're still enjoying the career in a racing game. In short, I think it depends on what the game is about, how fun it is, my mood and how much I payed for it. Not exactly rock-solid opinion forming there. :D
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It's hard for me to form a good opinion on if I want a game long or short. It depends on my mood I guess. :D Gears of War: Never wanted it to end. I was having so much fun and it ended too quickly. Red Faction (PS2) : Way to drawn out IMO. Game got frustrating later on, I invested a ton of time took a lot longer to end than I would have liked. I guess it would depend on the game. :D Because when I look at it, it is a good thing Gears was so short. Had it been longer, perhaps I would've gotten bored? I never like to hope a game is going to end, that means that I'm probably not having much fun. I can give a high recommendation to a game I enjoyed from start to finish. When I buy a game, especially if it is expensive, I want to get a lot of playtime out of it. This leads me to believe that price is also a factor for me. If I buy a $2 game, do I care if it's only 2 hours long? Heck no. That's $2 well spent! But if I buy a game for say $40, is a 6-8 hour campaign going to satisfy me? Most likely it will if the game is fun, but I'll only hope for more. My solution? Buy more than one game at a time. It will take longer (Swapping games back and forth :P) and if you get one short and one long, their combined cost seems worth it. On one hand you have a great (though short) experience and on the other you're still enjoying the career in a racing game. In short, I think it depends on what the game is about, how fun it is, my mood and how much I payed for it. Not exactly rock-solid opinion forming there. :DBradHummr
i agree with your opinion as long as a game is really fun like gears its ok if its short cuz i cud prolly play it multiple times where with longer games i just want the campaign to be over already you know. as for the cost i feel as long as the game is fun and canse myself playing it several times then the price is justified also addictive online multiplayer orcoop will more then justify a $60 game no matter what imo.

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#11 gunswordfist
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Longer. Good games that are long aren't repetitive.
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#12 Hseptic
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I prefer shorter games mainly because I play (relatively) a lot of games, and I otherwise don't have time to play through them all.

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#13 ASK_Story
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I just want my money's worth. In the past, I hated it when games were too short, and in many ways, I still do especially with the price of games these days. But now it depends. Some games can have short single player content but have tons of other things that make it still worth it. I haven't even touched Modern Warfare or World at War's single player campaign yet, LOL!
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#14 tj_odee
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The Conduit!
I paid like 60 bux for it and the campaign only lasted around 7-8 hours....
COMMON!
It should be like 15-20 missions.

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Yeah, I'm not opposed to short games. 8 hours is pretty solid for me, I actually get a little antsy at 12+ with a shooter. Like you said, repetition is annoying.
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I prefer long games, very long games... I often feel kinda cheated if a game is under 10 hours, and I prefer them to be around 20+.

I am not the most MP centric of people, and it erally really sucks hard, that games seems to be getting shorter, due to various reasons.

Most of the time its because the shorter the time, the less of the world is explained, and turns out more 2 dimentional and barren,an explosive actionfest without storysort of bores me... I really like those longer games where you get to see more of the world, and the reasoning behind it all.

Also the reason I dont like Movies very much... so much story, and so many characters end up 2 dimentional cardboard cutouts, in order to compress it to a 2 hour thing...

ofcourse if a game is just plain bad 20 hours is an awefully longtime to endure...

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As long the game is fun, it can be short, I dont think the repettive missions the use in games like assasins creed or gotfather are making the game longer.
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#18 CameronCN
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The game has to be long.

I hate it when the game is too short, it makes it a disappointment.

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#19 HitomiChan
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yeah.. good games that are 10 to 12 hours = happy times.. :D.. i feel that at the cost of what we are paying all games should have a long campaign.

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#20 Greedaux
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the longer the better.. hehehe , it gives you the nice feeling after you beat that game because you've been through a lot.
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I believe that for every 2 dollars you spend on a game, you should get at LEAST 1 hour of enjoyment. So if I were to spend 60 dollars on a game that only gives me 10 hours of enjoyment, I feel ripped off.
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I believe that for every 2 dollars you spend on a game, you should get at LEAST 1 hour of enjoyment. So if I were to spend 60 dollars on a game that only gives me 10 hours of enjoyment, I feel ripped off.UT_Wrestler
like cod4 for example? because i replay it many times and is pent tons of hours in mp.
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I don't think multiplayer makes up for a short singleplayer game - I'd rather play a game that's entirely focused on either singleplayer or multiplayer, since they're usually better. For example, I wouldn't buy a COD game, since the singleplayer is short and there are better, multiplayer-focused FPS games out there.

Anyway, I'm fine with short games as long as they're reasonably priced - like, if the game is only 4-6 hours long, I don't want to be spending more than about $30 AUS on it.

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I don't think multiplayer makes up for a short singleplayer game - I'd rather play a game that's entirely focused on either singleplayer or multiplayer, since they're usually better. For example, I wouldn't buy a COD game, since the singleplayer is short and there are better, multiplayer-focused FPS games out there.

Anyway, I'm fine with short games as long as they're reasonably priced - like, if the game is only 4-6 hours long, I don't want to be spending more than about $30 AUS on it.

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Depends cod or repettive assasins creed and godfather 2 trying to despertly pose the worldmap sidemissions as the freaking campaign singleplayer.... in that case ill go for cod.
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#25 Planeforger
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Depends cod or repettive assasins creed and godfather 2 trying to despertly pose the worldmap sidemissions as the freaking campaign singleplayer.... in that case ill go for cod.dakan45

Yeah that's true, but I was talking more about 'great' singleplayer games, like The Witcher's 50 hours or Half-Life 2's 20. They're both great experiences that don't need multiplayer to back up their short length.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"] Depends cod or repettive assasins creed and godfather 2 trying to despertly pose the worldmap sidemissions as the freaking campaign singleplayer.... in that case ill go for cod.Planeforger

Yeah that's true, but I was talking more about 'great' singleplayer games, like The Witcher's 50 hours or Half-Life 2's 20. They're both great experiences that don't need multiplayer to back up their short length.

I wouldnt say hl2 was 20 more like 15 in any case after you reach black mesa east the game starts to decent in quality for some reason, id prefer if the game was shorter with more action, eg id rather they have used the ideas they used in episode 1 and 2 instead some of the borring later levels in hl2 :( I got to pick a mines with the gravity gun?

For Christ's shake....

Half life however.... it was perfect or deus ex, riddicusily wrong without being repettive,

As for witcher, yeah its amazing i cant belive how non repettive and long it turned out.

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#27 valttu
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This is sortakinda weird question. Longer, of course!!!

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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I believe that for every 2 dollars you spend on a game, you should get at LEAST 1 hour of enjoyment. So if I were to spend 60 dollars on a game that only gives me 10 hours of enjoyment, I feel ripped off.dakan45
like cod4 for example? because i replay it many times and is pent tons of hours in mp.

CoD4 has a short campaign, but I've spent at least 60 hours on the multiplayer, that made it a worthy full-price purchase.
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#29 super_mario_128
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Long. I like games to be long and emotionally involving. You can't really get that experience with shorter games.
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#30 Senor_Kami
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Non-open world or rpg: The longer the better

Open world game: short main quest with well done sidequests to pad it out

RPG: the shorter the better.

I wish more RPGs were short. There are alot of JRPGs that'd like to replay but it's like... that's an 80 hour game. Even if 80% of the game was fun, you've got an entire normal game's worth of unfun content to tread through. On top of that... it's like 80 hours. That's a bit much. Meanwhile, something like KOTOR is only like 16 hours and I played through it like 5 different times. I'd love to play an 8 hour RPG that had alot of replayability and alternate choices that could have a major impact on the game. Heavy Rain seems like it'll kinda be like that. A fairly short game that you can replay like 5 or 6 times and get a pretty different experience each time.

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#31 MrTissueMan77
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It depends on the replay value of a game

For example I played through cod4 like 100 times because it was so fun

But Assasins Creed was short too and I just didnt feel like doing the same thing over and over again because it was so boring

But I would probably pick longer games because I like to get good value out of games

Oblivion for example was amazing and even though it was REALLY long I played through it 3 0r 4 times with a different character class and skills each time.

But generally I only really like really long games if its an RPG and Id prefer an Fps like CoD to be shortish depending on multiplayer

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#32 johan1986
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It depends on the genre and kinda of game, but shooter wise I would say bioshock was perfect length wise

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#33 Gammit10
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I prefer shorter, cheaper games. $30 for 8-10 hours is perfect.
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#34 skp_16
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Longer because...

- I don't care about trophies

- I don't care about multiplayer content

- I rarely replay games

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#35 MasterBolt360
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I'd like to say somewhere in the middle. Can someone tell me if "Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker" was long or short? It took me too long to complete.

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#36 Kenbo325
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I think short games are a waste of money, but I tend to stop playing long games before beating them. So I like games that are in the middle :D

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#37 aaaaarrrrggggg
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For me, the longer the better, as long as the gameplay is quality. I don't care much for multiplayer either, so I tend to like long RPG games.
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#38 uas-2001
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Longer obviously! :X Next TES game should be 500+ hours. More value for moneh!
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#39 illmatic87
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i like it somewhere in between, long games can often be quite daunting to finish, they need to be engaging throughout and well there have been a few long JRPGs that really set itself up for disappointment at the end.
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#40 doubutsuteki
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They should be substantially deeper, first and foremost.

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#41 KyogreRSErocks
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I play the shorter games when I get bored with the longer ones. But I still prefer the long games.
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Well, I love RPG's more than any other type of game, and that's the type of game that usually doesn't work if it's any shorter than 40 hours. Still, I've finished some in less than 30 hours, and still have fond memories of them.
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i hear people complain a lot saying that certain games sre too short but honeslty i dont mind when games are on the short side. for me it keeps the game from being repetative and short games usally have good pacing so u wanna keep on playing instead of stopping to take a break. of course when i say short i dont mean the game should last 4 hours but a 8 hour campaign isnt to bad imo. what does everyone else think?

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I love Deus Ex (and Morrowind and Oblivion) for the very reason they were l-o-n-g to play. Gave time for players to soak in the theme, the story, to blend into the environment. If the game is long enough, you actually feel like a protagonist -- not some figure in a race for their life. To me a game isn't the CGI. It's not the fps. It's the content, and how much I can have for $39. If it's only 8hrs, I'd rather grab 4 movies instead.
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#44 SpiralStairsS
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[QUOTE="ricosuave84"]

i hear people complain a lot saying that certain games sre too short but honeslty i dont mind when games are on the short side. for me it keeps the game from being repetative and short games usally have good pacing so u wanna keep on playing instead of stopping to take a break. of course when i say short i dont mean the game should last 4 hours but a 8 hour campaign isnt to bad imo. what does everyone else think?

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I love Deus Ex (and Morrowind and Oblivion) for the very reason they were l-o-n-g to play. Gave time for players to soak in the theme, the story, to blend into the environment. If the game is long enough, you actually feel like a protagonist -- not some figure in a race for their life. To me a game isn't the CGI. It's not the fps. It's the content, and how much I can have for $39. If it's only 8hrs, I'd rather grab 4 movies instead.

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#45 Vari3ty
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The longer, the better. Who likes games that are too short? I mean nowdays we have a lot of games that only have a 10 hour or so single-player campaign. Where's the fun in that?

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#46 sukraj
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A 10 or 12 hour game is long enough for me.

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#47 spike6958
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I would rather spend my money on a long single player game such as Mass Effect, Oblivion or Final Fantasy, that will last me a long time, than a short game that only lasts a day or two, with a tacked on multiplayer that is garranteed to be full of cheats using modded controllers and lag switching.
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#49 bruno_fmenedes
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I don't care if the games are shorter or longer, only if they are more or less fun and exciting to play.

But, from my point of view, games with no multiplayer that provide only 10 hours or less of entertainment should cost significantly less than those that provide 30 hours or more.

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#50 kandoriasu2
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I think its not a matter of time but the replay value of a game. Sure a short game is great if you want to kill time, but realisticly those short games will never be played again. 5 to 6 hours games to me will sit in my library and collect dust, but if I have the pacients and time I would definetly play a 20 hrs + game. It has the pull to get you back into the game and keep playing even if you've played it a couple time over. Longer is better... just look at MMO RPG's. At par graphics, mid level soundtrack, and on occation pricy memberships, yet still drag in thousands to millions of people because they are long, and intersting to play with the social attraction. I LOVE LONG GAMES. -----as long if its good------