So. How did Call Of Duty 4 end up more popular than Halo 3?

If you look at the facts, Halo 3 had several groundbreaking features that it introduced to console gaming. Combine that with how they 'fixed' essentially all the flaws in the past halo games and added more gameplay elements to the game...It's ilke, if you had all this, wouldn't you think it'd STILL be the #1 shooter since it came out? If you compare a game like that to COD4..Which really doesn't try anything new at all, how the hell did COD4 on the 360 beat out Halo 3?

its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenhello12367890

what?

[QUOTE="hello12367890"]its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenzabrak999

what?

[QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="hello12367890"]its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenhello12367890

what?

I don't understand this post

its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenhello12367890

Its pretty bad that I could assume what you wrote by just looking at your avatar and be right.

[QUOTE="hello12367890"]its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenHiResDes

Its pretty bad that I could assume what you wrote by just looking at your avatar and be right.

You don't judge me, do you Des!? :cry:

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[QUOTE="hello12367890"]its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenDutch_Mix

Its pretty bad that I could assume what you wrote by just looking at your avatar and be right.

You don't judge me, do you Des!? :cry:

hahahaha, get out of here you freak.

If you look at the facts, Halo 3 had several groundbreaking features that it introduced to console gaming. Combine that with how they 'fixed' essentially all the flaws in the past halo games and added more gameplay elements to the game...It's ilke, if you had all this, wouldn't you think it'd STILL be the #1 shooter since it came out? If you compare a game like that to COD4..Which really doesn't try anything new at all, how the hell did COD4 on the 360 beat out Halo 3?

zabrak999

The penetration of rounds through various types of materials, which in turn alters the trajectory and sometimes even lessens the damage ratio, was a pretty innovative feature that radically changed the way I played MP.

I've got nothing against Halo 3 (I own it) but personally, I think the MP in COD4 was vastly superior. I certainly enjoyed it more because I found the gameplay far more balanced than Halo 3.

Halo 3 had groundbreaking features? Name them for me please...Ninety-2

Yeah..it´s a great game and all,but groundbreaking?No.I think the main features CoD beaten up Halo with is the upgrade system and the fact that it´s a bit faster.Every N00B can almost play as bad as he wants,but still get praised.

Halo 3 got the problem that you can use almost too much cheap tricks...and without them you got beaten up pretty quick.If someone kills you in CoD4 you don´t really care...you´re back so fast that it´s almost unimportant.Plus that it´s Military instead of some Space war (which isn´t "in" at the moment).

I´m ending up playing almost Halo 3 more in the last days.I´ve played CoD4 just too much and Halo 3s new maps are great.

Halo 3 had groundbreaking features? Name them for me please...Ninety-2

For a console FPS, yeah, it did. Four player online-multiplayer, a theater mode that allows you to take screenshots/videos and upload them to your profile on Bungie, Forge, Bungie.net integration. Yeah.

[QUOTE="zabrak999"]

If you look at the facts, Halo 3 had several groundbreaking features that it introduced to console gaming. Combine that with how they 'fixed' essentially all the flaws in the past halo games and added more gameplay elements to the game...It's ilke, if you had all this, wouldn't you think it'd STILL be the #1 shooter since it came out? If you compare a game like that to COD4..Which really doesn't try anything new at all, how the hell did COD4 on the 360 beat out Halo 3?

Grammaton-Cleric

The penetration of rounds through various types of materials, which in turn alters the trajectory and sometimes even lessens the damage ratio, was a pretty innovative feature that radically changed the way I played MP.

I've got nothing against Halo 3 (I own it) but personally, I think the MP in COD4 was vastly superior. I certainly enjoyed it more because I found the gameplay far more balanced than Halo 3.

Oh, I'm going to have to disagree with you there (and I know we've gone down this road before) but I just don't understand how you can think CoD's gameplay is more balanced that Halo 3's.

For me, Call of Duty 4's online MP falls short of Halo 3 primarily because Call of Duty 4 has no real matchmaking service. Sure it matches you up with a game against other players, but it doesn't match you up with players of your own skill level. And in a game where having the best equipment so often determines the outcome of a fight, well, you can see how that presents a problem from a gameplay standpoint.

I still love Call of Duty 4, but I find it far too easy to succeed in. It's just not fair to get matched up with a bunch of amateurs while you're decked out with the best gear XP can buy. You know?

[QUOTE="Ninety-2"]Halo 3 had groundbreaking features? Name them for me please...Dutch_Mix

For a console FPS, yeah, it did. Four player online-multiplayer, a theater mode that allows you to take screenshots/videos and upload them to your profile on Bungie, Forge, Bungie.net integration. Yeah.

[QUOTE="zabrak999"]

If you look at the facts, Halo 3 had several groundbreaking features that it introduced to console gaming. Combine that with how they 'fixed' essentially all the flaws in the past halo games and added more gameplay elements to the game...It's ilke, if you had all this, wouldn't you think it'd STILL be the #1 shooter since it came out? If you compare a game like that to COD4..Which really doesn't try anything new at all, how the hell did COD4 on the 360 beat out Halo 3?

Grammaton-Cleric

The penetration of rounds through various types of materials, which in turn alters the trajectory and sometimes even lessens the damage ratio, was a pretty innovative feature that radically changed the way I played MP.

I've got nothing against Halo 3 (I own it) but personally, I think the MP in COD4 was vastly superior. I certainly enjoyed it more because I found the gameplay far more balanced than Halo 3.

Oh, I'm going to have to disagree with you there (and I know we've gone down this road before) but I just don't understand how you can think CoD's gameplay is more balanced that Halo 3's.

For me, Call of Duty 4's online MP falls short of Halo 3 primarily because Call of Duty 4 has no real matchmaking service. Sure it matches you up with a game against other players, but it doesn't match you up with players of your own skill level. And in a game where having the best equipment so often determines the outcome of a fight, well, you can see how that presents a problem from a gameplay standpoint.

I still love Call of Duty 4, but I find it far too easy to succeed in. It's just not fair to get matched up with a bunch of amateurs while you're decked out with the best gear XP can buy. You know?

Fair enough. The matchmaking aspect is a big one for some people but when I talk of balance, I'm speaking of my own personal experiences, playing with people I know online. I don't like the weapons in Halo 3, I don't care for the recharging shields, and I personally find some of the weapons flat out annoying in regards to balance. In COD4 you can take anybody down with a couple of hits, which for me personally makes it a more even and skill-based experience.

Ultimately, I think it's a matter of preference.

I hate halo 3s multiplayer because its too easy people run around with the default gun and shoot eachother thats what they do the whole game besides shoot with the sniper. have your friend that isnt good at halo 3 play you on halo 2 and youll suck at the game. it will prove you have no skill of the game because you just run around with an automatic gun and kill each other. too repetitive.

[QUOTE="Ninety-2"]Halo 3 had groundbreaking features? Name them for me please...Dutch_Mix

For a console FPS, yeah, it did. Four player online-multiplayer............. Yeah.

I think its simply just a better game, and gamers realized that. Halo has better customization features, and a better single player for me. I just enjoyed COD4 a lot better. I just hated in Halo how you could empty a whole clip into a guy, just to see him run behind cover, then jump up and land near you to melee you in the face. So your basically telling me that a punch to the face is deadlier than a whole round of bullets?? Both good games, but COD4 is simply better.godzillavskong

Only edge CoD4 has on Halo 3 is CoD4 is a multiplat game.

Btw whoever says Halo 3 MP is easy mode I laugh at you.

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[QUOTE="Ninety-2"]Halo 3 had groundbreaking features? Name them for me please...TheLegendKnight

For a console FPS, yeah, it did. Four player online-multiplayer............. Yeah.

Cooperative multiplayer.

:roll:

[QUOTE="TheLegendKnight"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="Ninety-2"]Halo 3 had groundbreaking features? Name them for me please...Dutch_Mix

For a console FPS, yeah, it did. Four player online-multiplayer............. Yeah.

Cooperative multiplayer.

:roll:

aside from rpgs like baldur's gate ( 1999 );

will rock ( 2003 ) had 4 player co-op

swat 4 ( 2005 ) had 4 player co-op

close combat ( 2005 ) had 4 player co-op

etc.

I enjoy both games for completely different reasons. However, Halo 3 is missing a few features that gave Halo 2 such incredible legs. What happened to clan support? Why can't I talk trash and/or listen in on the opposing teams strategies when playing ranked matches?

It also doesn't help that Halo 3 is desperately in need of some dedicated servers. EVERY general team you come across is bridging for host advantage. Host advantage can be brutal in a game like Halo. Particularly when you're up against someone BR to BR. I have a 20mb connection and have yet to take host from a team of generals.

I think these are just a few of the reasons why I grew bored of Halo 3 and became incredibly addicted to COD4 for quite some time. However, I think Halo 3 still has longer legs and I have come back to it recently and plan to stick with it. Halo 3 has more longevity for a variety of reasons.

COD4 is a mostly solitary experience. Even when playing team games, communication is not crucial. Being with or without your team makes no difference. You are basically competing with yourself or with a teammate for most kills on the board. This can be a lot of fun, but I don't think it stays very interesting in the long term.

When I went back to Halo 3, all of a sudden we are calling out enemy positions, creating plans, brainstorming tactics on the fly ..... In halo 3 it is absolutely crucial that you are working as a team. Run off from the pack and into 2 enemies? You're a dead man. If you don't start working with your team, you will not excel in the least.

In COD4 you start with whichever gun you like, In Halo 3, you start with a short range gun, and must make your way to hot spots on the map which have certain weapons that can turn the tide of any given game. This plays into the planning and teamwork once again, and highlights the run and gun nature of COD4.

I just plain found that Halo 3 requires a bit more of my brain, and that is more appealing in the long run.

Ummmm Halo 3 was complete dulls-ville in my opinion.

COD 4 was intense, fun and exciting.

cod 4 dont have aliens or laser guns so ppl find it more of a m a s t u r b 8 r than halo

games close to real are more appealing cause you really want to shoot and blow people

I find halo 3 alot more appealing and 'thrilling' then CoD4.. pfft.. but thats just me because i dont like realistic shooters. :D

but last time i checked halo 3 was on top of COD4.

I tend to like Halo 3's online more simply because it doesn't suffer from glitches and poor development like COD4. For example:

- In COD4 your avatar can get caught on small terrain features like small rocks, corners, bricks, etc. Gotta love how soldiers in COD4 lack the knowledge of how to step/crawl over a small bump in the ground.

- Bullet lag. COD4 didn't have this at first but these days it can be pretty bad. Nothing is more frustrating than knowing the guy who killed you should have been dead before he fired a shot since you poured a full clip of ammo into him at point blank only to have the server not notice what you were doing.

- Spawn points. The great thing about Halo 3 is the spawn system; it will spawn you in the safest part of the map possible along with several other variables taken into account. COD4 just chooses a spawn point at random which results in you getting spawned in the same place five times before the game finally realizes that it probably shouldn't be respawning you in a spot where you keep dying. And this is to say nothing of the times where the game will spawn you on top of grenades or in front of an enemy player.

- Some of the perks are broken. For example, Last Stand often results in other players unable to get their kills counted whenever they down a player with LS. 3x Frag turns every map into a demolition zone since most players just randomly lob grenades over buildings in the hope that one of them will nab another player.

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[QUOTE="hello12367890"]its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenhello12367890

what?

Most typical Halo/360 fanboy brain-dead maniac I have ever seen.

But in short answer to your question- CoD4 is simply a better game =P

halo does not break any ground whatsoever. 4 player co-op for a copycat campaign of previous games. uploading vids? that is why people buy video games?

cod4 has the perk system is by far the best feature in fps to come in since bullet time from max payne. the guns feel just right. level/prestige makes people come back. level design (minus downpour and bloc) is excelent. plus its gritty....

Dude, I have no idea! Halo 3 has more Weapons, Better Graphics, its more Challenging, Multiplayer is just better overall.

Although Campaign is cut a bit short but I HAVE NO IDEA!

and ?

aside from rpgs like baldur's gate ( 1999 );

will rock ( 2003 ) had 4 player co-op

swat 4 ( 2005 ) had 4 player co-op

close combat ( 2005 ) had 4 player co-op

etc.

TheLegendKnight

halo does not break any ground whatsoever. 4 player co-op for a copycat campaign of previous games. uploading vids? that is why people buy video games?

cod4 has the perk system is by far the best feature in fps to come in since bullet time from max payne. the guns feel just right. level/prestige makes people come back. level design (minus downpour and bloc) is excelent. plus its gritty....

jsmoke03

He said for consoles; very few games offer split-screen co-op or split-screen co-op on-line play, which CoD4 doesn't offer. I prefer Halo 3 due to that very fact, but they are both overrated shooters. Halo 2 hasn't been passed in terms of console FPSs in terms of offering the most and Halo 3 does that, but it's major fault is that it is mostly rehash.doomsoth

[QUOTE="doomsoth"]He said for consoles; very few games offer split-screen co-op or split-screen co-op on-line play, which CoD4 doesn't offer. I prefer Halo 3 due to that very fact, but they are both overrated shooters. Halo 2 hasn't been passed in terms of console FPSs in terms of offering the most and Halo 3 does that, but it's major fault is that it is mostly rehash.TheLegendKnight

[QUOTE="TheLegendKnight"][QUOTE="doomsoth"]He said for consoles; very few games offer split-screen co-op or split-screen co-op on-line play, which CoD4 doesn't offer. I prefer Halo 3 due to that very fact, but they are both overrated shooters. Halo 2 hasn't been passed in terms of console FPSs in terms of offering the most and Halo 3 does that, but it's major fault is that it is mostly rehash.doomsoth

are you abit slow to catch the flow here ? read previous posts, you quoted my post and i replied you...

- Some of the perks are broken. For example, Last Stand often results in other players unable to get their kills counted whenever they down a player with LS. 3x Frag turns every map into a demolition zone since most players just randomly lob grenades over buildings in the hope that one of them will nab another player.

gameguy6700

I just liked COD 4 better.

Come on, you guys didn't like "All Ghillied Up"?

and Btw since when are any of the call of duty's realistic?

cod 4 dont have aliens or laser guns so ppl find it more of a m a s t u r b 8 r than halo

games close to real are more appealing cause you really want to shoot and blow people

Crystall3d

I am going to pretend I never read that.

Anyway, I'm not going to give my opinion. The sheer amount of fanboyism, on both sides (surprisely much more on CoD4's side) has made me nauseous and has made me not ever want to play either of the games again.

At the end of the day, I'll be playing Halo 3 with my friends, cooperatively on one screen. CoD4 can't give me that.

[QUOTE="zabrak999"]

[QUOTE="hello12367890"]its not the number one shooter on 360 halo 3 is and you konw why people played it cause it takes no skill and is the biggest noob friendly game i have ever seenhello12367890

what?