Standing the test of time...

What games from previous generations do you think have aged well?

What genre of game do you think ages the best?

What games from previous generations do you NOT think have aged well?

What genre of game do you think doesn't age well?

I think some of my favorite games from past generations that have aged well are games like the Resident Evil series, the Metal Gear Solid series, Squaresoft RPGs, Mario games, Zelda games, Metroid games, generally games that aren't heavily reliant on graphics, but more so the gameplay and storyline involved. For instance, first person shooting and racing games play the same way as they used to with improved graphics, whereas you very rarely see turn based RPGs and strategy fantasy RPGs anymore. Developers are much less willing to take risks now and usually go with the Call of Duty clones to try and make a quick buck. This makes it really fun to go back to the games on PS1, SNES and other systems because they simply just do not make games like that anymore.

Some games that were great back in the day that I don't think aged well are Gran Turismo, Goldeneye, Tekken, Madden games, mainly sports games, racing games, fighting games and first person shooters.

I think the genre of game that ages the best is JRPG. I can go back to many of my old time favorites with no problem at all. I also think survival horror, adventure/RPGs and platformers tend to age really well also.

Atari 2600 has aged worst than any other system. Only a small fraction of the library is fun for more than 10 minutes at a time.

As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. Second_Rook

[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. jakandsig

Your post made me laugh. Wow, really, all the NES games have aged horrible? Give me an example......I know there are some that suffer from some old bad design, but all of them. Wow?

[QUOTE="jakandsig"][QUOTE="Second_Rook"]As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. TheTrueMagusX1

Your post made me laugh. Wow, really, all the NES games have aged horrible? Give me an example......I know there are some that suffer from some old bad design, but all of them. Wow?

[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. jakandsig

Actually thats what you said. You never said anything about leaving out Mario 3. And I usually have no problem with you, I actually like you because your rather brash towards those that donot know what they are talking about. Just stating what I read.

[QUOTE="jakandsig"][QUOTE="Second_Rook"]As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. TheTrueMagusX1

Actually thats what you said. You never said anything about leaving out Mario 3. And I usually have no problem with you, I actually like you because your rather brash towards those that donot know what they are talking about. Just stating what I read.

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[QUOTE="jakandsig"] The NES Nintendo titles ages terribly.jakandsig

Actually thats what you said. You never said anything about leaving out Mario 3. And I usually have no problem with you, I actually like you because your rather brash towards those that donot know what they are talking about. Just stating what I read.

But you're just talking graphics. How a game aged has more to do with it than just graphics. You also have to look at how it controls, it's cheesiness factor, and most importantly: Is it still fun to play?

While many NES games aren't the prettiest to look at, they're still a ton of fun to play and aren't nearly as bad as say Atari 2600 or Intellivision graphics. And many of those games have some great, tight controls on them. So what if SMB or Zelda isn't high-def 2D graphics, you can still make everything out and know what you're looking at (unlike A2600 or INTV).

Personally, I'd choose quite a few NES games over some of the modern games out there:

• Bionic Commando
• Castlevania 1-3
• Contra
• Crystalis
• Dr. Mario
• DuckTales 1 & 2
• Legend of Zelda 1 & 2
• Mega Man 1-6
• Super Mario Bros. 1-3
• Tetris

Those games have aged horribly? Not in my eyes.

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[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

Actually thats what you said. You never said anything about leaving out Mario 3. And I usually have no problem with you, I actually like you because your rather brash towards those that donot know what they are talking about. Just stating what I read.

Emerald_Warrior

But you're just talking graphics. How a game aged has more to do with it than just graphics. You also have to look at how it controls, it's cheesiness factor, and most importantly: Is it still fun to play?

While many NES games aren't the prettiest to look at, they're still a ton of fun to play and aren't nearly as bad as say Atari 2600 or Intellivision graphics. And many of those games have some great, tight controls on them. So what if SMB or Zelda isn't high-def 2D graphics, you can still make everything out and know what you're looking at (unlike A2600 or INTV).

Personally, I'd choose quite a few NES games over some of the modern games out there:

• Bionic Commando
• Castlevania 1-3
• Contra
• Crystalis
• Dr. Mario
• DuckTales 1 & 2
• Legend of Zelda 1 & 2
• Mega Man 1-6
• Super Mario Bros. 1-3
• Tetris

Those games have aged horribly? Not in my eyes.

I agree those games have aged fantastic. I am glad there is alot of love to Ducktales. That game is still a blast, and whats interesting it was based ona childrens cartoon at the time, but turned out to be imo one of the best in the NES library. Though, I do have some gameplay issues with Zelda 1 and 2, I think they are a little too vague at times for what to do, and I have issues with Simons Quest, but thats just me. You and I have had our Simons Quest debate before, but your list is spot on. And more love to Crystalis.

Tsk Tsk shouldn't be dropping a user's name when they're not even here posting jakandsig. But, now that I'm here I had say after reading that list it's clear you really don't know what you're talking about (in my opinion). PS2 hit or miss? I think that about clinches it folks. I'm glad The TrueMagusX1 caught on to something you should have been able to recognize yourself. Maybe you should read your own posts more thoroughly before jumping on another user (just saying).Koi-Neon-X

Your one to talk Koi

[QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"]Tsk Tsk shouldn't be dropping a user's name when they're not even here posting jakandsig. But, now that I'm here I had say after reading that list it's clear you really don't know what you're talking about (in my opinion). PS2 hit or miss? I think that about clinches it folks. I'm glad The TrueMagusX1 caught on to something you should have been able to recognize yourself. Maybe you should read your own posts more thoroughly before jumping on another user (just saying).TheTrueMagusX1

Your one to talk Koi

Tsk Tsk shouldn't be dropping a user's name when they're not even here posting jakandsig. But, now that I'm here I had say after reading that list it's clear you really don't know what you're talking about (in my opinion). PS2 hit or miss? I think that about clinches it folks. I'm glad The TrueMagusX1 caught on to something you should have been able to recognize yourself. Maybe you should read your own posts more thoroughly before jumping on another user (just saying).Koi-Neon-X

[QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"]Tsk Tsk shouldn't be dropping a user's name when they're not even here posting jakandsig. But, now that I'm here I had say after reading that list it's clear you really don't know what you're talking about (in my opinion). PS2 hit or miss? I think that about clinches it folks. I'm glad The TrueMagusX1 caught on to something you should have been able to recognize yourself. Maybe you should read your own posts more thoroughly before jumping on another user (just saying).jakandsig

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[QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"]Tsk Tsk shouldn't be dropping a user's name when they're not even here posting jakandsig. But, now that I'm here I had say after reading that list it's clear you really don't know what you're talking about (in my opinion). PS2 hit or miss? I think that about clinches it folks. I'm glad The TrueMagusX1 caught on to something you should have been able to recognize yourself. Maybe you should read your own posts more thoroughly before jumping on another user (just saying).Koi-Neon-X

@jakandsig: And if notice in my previous post I wasn't DISAGREEING with you (rare I know) I was merely asking for some examples as to which PS2 games YOU think haven't aged well. Perhaps before you go on a raging tangent, start with the insults like a petulant child, and accusing someone who's been playing video games all his life they don't know what they're talking about: read the post. Please? Okay? good.Koi-Neon-X

[QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"]@jakandsig: And if notice in my previous post I wasn't DISAGREEING with you (rare I know) I was merely asking for some examples as to which PS2 games YOU think haven't aged well. Perhaps before you go on a raging tangent, start with the insults like a petulant child, and accusing someone who's been playing video games all his life they don't know what they're talking about: read the post. Please? Okay? good.jakandsig

Ty 1-3

Liberty City Stories.

Lupin the Third.

Mojo

Seek and Destroy

Motorcross

Tak 1-3

Any Dynasty Warrior

Dragon Ball: Infinite World

Mercenaries 2 (BURN IT WITH FIRE!!!)

The Mummy. Ok Movie, bad game.

Guitar Hero Spin-offs.

TLoS series

Just to name a few I have.

[QUOTE="jakandsig"][QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"]@jakandsig: And if notice in my previous post I wasn't DISAGREEING with you (rare I know) I was merely asking for some examples as to which PS2 games YOU think haven't aged well. Perhaps before you go on a raging tangent, start with the insults like a petulant child, and accusing someone who's been playing video games all his life they don't know what they're talking about: read the post. Please? Okay? good.jakandsig

[QUOTE="jakandsig"][QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"] You are also very slow and get posts mixed up. AGAIN, didn't I just mention Mojo as a prime example?Koi-Neon-X

[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. jakandsig

Megaman aged better than SMB and its fun to play. Fun to play is good but games like SMB 1 just seems ti have aged graohics and gameplay, and most people talk about SMB3 when talking about NES game relevant to today.

most people talk about SMB3 when talking about NES game relevant to today.

jakandsig

[QUOTE="jakandsig"] most people talk about SMB3 when talking about NES game relevant to today.

Second_Rook

[QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"][QUOTE="jakandsig"] Naming the vast crap of crap games for the Ps2 is way to long so I will just make a short list here.jakandsig

[QUOTE="jakandsig"] most people talk about SMB3 when talking about NES game relevant to today.

Second_Rook

I disagree that the NES titles have aged so badly. In fact, I think the exact opposite. Most of them have aged very well and, for some of them, no other game stands out quite like it. You've got Life Force, The Guardian Legend, Super Mario Bros. 3, Zelda II (hey now, I actually love it thank you kindly!), Dragon Warrior I-IV, Final Fantasy, Bubble Bobble, and so, so, so many others. The Atari 2600 hasn't aged very well and when I play it with other people who haven't played one before, I usually get the same reaction from most. That reaction usually consists of something along the lines of "holy !$@* how old is this?"

Then, there's the SNES, Turbografx-16, Sega Genesis, even the Gameboy, all of which are still a blast to play today. Road Rash, Final Fantasy VI, ye gods I can go on for hours. There are, of course, several games or even consoles which haven't aged well over time, but that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't fun to go back and play them now and then.

Did you know that quote tags don't work on GS so you have to do them manually?

I'm beginning to notice that. I find it strange because I've never had a problem with it before. Oh well!:P

[QUOTE="jakandsig"] most people talk about SMB3 when talking about NES game relevant to today.

Second_Rook

IMO I prefer SMB3 over SMW, but thats just me. I can see both sides of the argument, but for me I prefer SMB3.

[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. jakandsig

Um WTF? I don't even know what to say. Your vagueness is exceeded only by your lack of...wait WTF!!!??? I just reread where you said all Xbox games aged well!!???:shock:

Geez, now I know why I took a break from GS.

Many RPG's, platformers, Zelda... especially OoT and MM. Also, Smash Brothers... yeah, basically most of Nintendo's mainstream series.

IMO I prefer SMB3 over SMW, but thats just me. I can see both sides of the argument, but for me I prefer SMB3.

TheTrueMagusX1

[QUOTE="jakandsig"][QUOTE="Second_Rook"]As you mentioned all of the Nintendo flagship series have aged very well. NEStorianPriest

Um WTF? I don't even know what to say. Your vagueness is exceeded only by your lack of...wait WTF!!!??? I just reread where you said all Xbox games aged well!!???:shock:

Geez, now I know why I took a break from GS.

What games from previous generations do you think have aged well?

Tetris, Super Metroid, Shadow of Destiny, Vagrant Story, Rez, Gimmick!, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong Country 1 & 2, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Einhander, NiGHTS into Dreams, Panzer Dragoon II Zwei, Gunstar Heroes, Contra III: The Alien Wars, Contra: Hard Corps, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, R-Type III, Sin & Punishment, Bangai-O, DoDonPachi, Battle Garegga, Unreal Tournament 2004, Starcraft

What genre of game do you think ages the best?

2D shoot-em-ups, fighting games made after the early 90's, puzzle games

What games from previous generations do you NOT think have aged well?

Devil May Cry 1 (excellent game but wasn't quite as awesome when I replayed it for nostalgia's sake, years after beating DMC3), The Legend of Zelda (incredibly stiff compared to its sequels), Metroid (ditto), Super Mario Bros. (ditto), Xexyz, Gradius IV, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Drakengard, Time Crisis 1, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Jet Force Gemini, Star Fox, King's Field, King's Field II, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Doom

What genre of game do you think doesn't age well?

Most first-person games, sports games

This isn't helping your argument. So what, you started playing games in 2000? Only a noob is going to claim that every game on the Xbox looks as great as the day it was released. Can't imagine how somebody could make a claim like that...oh wait, this is GS.:roll:

NEStorianPriest

This isn't helping your argument. So what, you started playing games in 2000? Only a noob is going to claim that every game on the Xbox looks as great as the day it was released. Can't imagine how somebody could make a claim like that...oh wait, this is GS.:roll:

NEStorianPriest

This isn't helping your argument. So what, you started playing games in 2000? Only a noob is going to claim that every game on the Xbox looks as great as the day it was released. Can't imagine how somebody could make a claim like that...oh wait, this is GS.:roll:

Bravo NEStorianPriest! (applause) I couldn't have said it better myself;) I think every video game system has a line-up of games that (let's just say) time hasn't been very nice to lol. I love the Super Nintendo and for me to say that every game on it as has aged beautifully would be a lie (of course then again not every game on the Super Nintendo was great to begin with). Still, I enjoy going back to the old-school games just because a lot of them do stand the test of time.

[QUOTE="NEStorianPriest"] I was speaking of graphics. Does anybody read the all the pages of a thread? Oh, wait this is GS.Koi-Neon-X

This isn't helping your argument. So what, you started playing games in 2000? Only a noob is going to claim that every game on the Xbox looks as great as the day it was released. Can't imagine how somebody could make a claim like that...oh wait, this is GS.:roll:

Bravo NEStorianPriest! (applause) I couldn't have said it better myself I am incapable of doing so.;) I think every video game system has a line-up of games that (let's just say) time hasn't been very nice to lol. I love the Super Nintendo and for me to say that every game on it as has aged beautifully would be a lie (of course then again not every game on the Super Nintendo was great to begin with). Still, I enjoy going back to the old-school games just because a lot of them do stand the test of time.

You also mentioned about how not every SNES game was good to begin with. That's nice, but we are talking about graphics. I can still play Missle Command, but does it look good? I hope you say no.

Age well: Pretty much any JRPG or SRPG ages well. Mostly because the formula was perfected early on and didn't require better physics or controls.

Age badly: Racing games and FPS games are pretty much a pain to play today if you're used to the modern day iterations. Because these games have advanced so much in controls and physics, that older games feel obsolete.