This generation is probably the worst in gaming history

I will give some explanation why i beleve so.

1)We come to an era were the power of cpus-gpus can give us incretible number of options creating games.Even so we see that games are all feleling and playing tha same take for example that in the majority of games you are just SHOOTING things from terroriest to zombies carrying assault rifles!!!!!

2)Insted of trying to invent new gernes and of games we see gernes slowly disapear take for example platform games.What are your choises on platform games????.......Mario and......??????.Another example is rail shooters dont rush to answer i will not pay 60 usd-eur to play a game that last 1 hour becouse thats were the "evolving the gerne"comes in think about it.the dighners need only the half time yo make the visual matirial of a rail shooter that will give you many hours of lightgun action from making an fps.As for the programing AI for the modern fps games are real pain while in a rail shooter you need little to none AI programing.Even the survival horror gerne is fading away.Witch titles you will actualy label SURVIVAL horror????

3)Most of the best game franchises are becoming second rate games or changing gernes!!!!!!

I)Final fantasy i will not even try to compere the ps1 titles to ffxiii.I can still remember scenes-music-characters even dialogs from FFVII like they are in my monitor screen right now and last time i aplayed this game was 1999!!!!I played FFxiii some months ago and i dont remember a thing!!!!nothing!!!!!Like a borring advertisment playng on my tv while watching a movie.FFxii is a disgrace to the FF francise

II)Resident evil.While the francise sudenly change gernes from Survival horror to action game in RE 4 The point that turns to junk was RE 5.RE 5 was not even a good game.A stupid bot follow you all the game,the level desighn was linear,the enviroments were out of subject,and zombies shooting you with assault rifless.I gues the next game will be RE evil warfare or RE evil ops

III)Silent hill.While the francise try to stay on course the scew up.Why team silent droped the francise in the first place?You will see what i mean when you obzerve SH 2 and SH homecoming while the second was from technical point advanced SH 2 looks better.I think i dont need to talk about the atmosphere the enviroments or the music of SH homecoming

IV)Dragon quest.Is there a dragon quest for this generation?????Ohh yeal for the wii!!!!No coments there.....

V)Sonic.Do you guys love sonic??!!!! yeah me too,lets play sonic then!!!!!.......We cant becouse there is none sonic game worth playing(sonic colors was good though)

VI)Broken sword.hmmm....install dosbox or find a patch for Broken sword 3 to run on win 7.

VII)The j-rpg gerne oooo i live these.Anyone sugesting something???(dont say FFXIII becouse thats not an rpg its an insult)While some good jrpgs exists many dint amke it to the eu or even to the us even the ones that make it are like secrets you need to hear a whisper from a friend to learn about these games they are kept in the shadows.Lost odyssey was a masterpiece though and was created by MICROSOFT studios(a western studio)

VIII)Shenmue.While an incretible number of junk releasing every week shenmue 3 is not even planed for developing.

IX)Castlevania.I can steel remember the feelings playing Castlevania SOTN on ps1 or the enviroments of Castlevania legacy of darkness on n64 or the 2 great Castlevania games on ps2(the second was released on xbox too)And so we see now castlevania lords of shadow changing the francise from platform rpg to pure action.Castlevania lords of shadow is a great game but they give the castlevania name tha last moment it was not suposed to be a castlevania game they just continue the francise with a game they just like they not even think if the game feels like castlevania at all

X)A great number of other frinceses that we all miss.

4)Visuals above all.All games are eye candy while most of these is the only thing they offer.In many games the music is only there just becouse without it you will thing you presed the mute button on your tv set.I still listenthe ost from the old games FFVII-VIII,Silent hill,Shenmue(every track is a masterpiece)castlevania Mgs even the old sega arcade games had great scores.I can only bring 4 games in mind that have memorable ost Lost odyssey,Mgs 4,silent hill shatered memmories,assasins creed and some idividual tracks from action games most of them coming from hans zimmer.As for the gameplay all the new games feel the same with same goals and features.But the greatest loss is the scenario i can count the games witch actualy have ascenario to show in my fingers all the games have a basic scenario just to keep the game runing for a reason.Most modern game scenarios go like this start-end

I have mutch more to say but that will not be a post on a forum but a book so i will stop here with 2 questions

1)what the japanese developers doing these years?

2)We will ever play games like FFvii,Castlevania sotn,Shenmue,shining force,super mario 64,sonic 3,Silent hill 2,RE 1 etc??

From an old dog of video games.

So basically you are saying how all games are the same these days and yet you want games to go back and be like the ones you remember playing. You jump from game to game and in the end do nothing to describe the current state of the industry. Your whole post is basically a list of games that you wish were still the standard or you wish they had not changed over the years. Developers adapt to what the people want. Just because on this forum there are people who fondly remember Baldurs Gate and consider it one of the best RPG's ever does not mean the majority has the same opinion. Games need to be accessible because the players are a more varied group these days.

Still if you like old games just play old games. There are still plenty platformers around both big budget and indie, but dont expect it to be a big genre. Just becouse Mario is still popular does not mean the demand for platformers is the same as it was 10 years ago.

I have no idea what you are trying to say about rail shooters...a niche genre that has been niche and always will be niche, and for fans of the genre a rail shooter being short in nothing new or surprising, its the way these games are.

RE is fine the way it is now, or actually it will be when the game finally gets the option to walk and shoot. Just because you thought that the cumbersome and clunky controls of the series prior to RE4 were good, does not make them so. IMO people are not tanks, so they should not move like tanks.

How can you even mention Dragon Quest in a post about the stale nature of this gen...DQ is a series that since its creation stayed the same. That is horrible and I prefer when devs experiment instead of make the same game over and over. I also dont get why you outright dismiss the Wii.

Shenmue was a critical success but it did not sell. End of the story. There are numerous games that have not turned into franchises because of poor sales.

If you want classic Castlevania get a DS theres plenty of them on it.

And thats all I will write becouse the grammar and spelling errors in the post hurt my brain.

So basically you are saying how all games are the same these days and yet you want games to go back and be like the ones you remember playing. You jump from game to game and in the end do nothing to describe the current state of the industry. Your whole post is basically a list of games that you wish were still the standard or you wish they had not changed over the years.rzepak

That's the vibe I was getting as well. The post starts off by saying developers aren't inventing new genres and games but then continues by naming all the old games that they've been making for the past 10-20 years and wishing they would make more of them.

I'd have to agree with you on this. I haven't been all impressed with this generation with a few exceptions of course.

What the first guy said^ (Not OT)

There are plenty of innovative new games this gen. If you cant find any I recommend you broaden your horizons, look for games in the indie game industry. Look for less high profile games, you will find plenty of experimental and ambitious games.

For that matter the worst gen is probably the first in my opinion.

I have yet to find a game that i get addicted to this gen like the other gens. Thats really all i can say, gameplay has gotten more simplistic, which is definetly not worse in alot of cases, but some game genres didnt need to be made easier and now they bore me to tears.

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i'm happy with it ...

I disagree with every one of those points.

I have zero interest in any of the franchises you listed. And if you're looking for new and innovative stuff, it exists. It's called xbox live arcade. Start using it. Although I could barely understand anything in that wall of text full of bad grammar.

This gen is actually one of my favorite gens.

Theres basically been over 50 games I've enjoyed this gen, thats more than the last two gens combined.

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seanmcloughlin

What game was EVER made that you could call Survival Horror? If it was truly survival, you'd have nothing and you'd have to work and find it, starting off with fighting dozens of incoming enemies with your FISTS. Then out of their bones you build a new weapon to fend them off, and after making a few more you storm a shack and get larger tools with literally HUNDREDS of enemies piling onto you, then an enemy starts up a TRACTOR and tries to kill you with it, and you have to dodge it, leaving him to actually kill the other enemies. Then while all that mayhem's going on, you go inside, get some more tools and fit them in your backpack, including a chainsaw, then you go out and slice them ALL in half. Then you have to go and save your neighbors, and eventually you go into a lab and kill some dude who's controlling all the zombies and spawning them wherever.

Speaking of survival, MGS3 was hardly survival! You had to kill some animals and occasionally find trees to hide in, if it was true survival, you'd have an open space, no parts, when enemy was alerted to your presence, the alarm would go off for ALL the soldiers, you have a compass and you have to get it out of your inventory when you want to use it, and you have to rely on your friends telling you where to go AND what direction it's in, and if you go the wrong way because of what position you're turned as the cutscene starts, TOO BAD. That's what it would be if it was PERFECT survival, but aren't both of these fun, despite not being true survival?

I think just because we have a nostalgic view of past generations and the fact that this gen hasn't produced a generation-defining game (a la OOT or Mario 64) its easy to jump on the bandwagon and claim this gen has sucked. But it simply hasn't. The fact is we get a lot of superb games every year and to say the market is saturated with shooters is ludicrous - you can't be looking very hard if you think all games need a gun or a zombie to sell well.

The shift into mainstream online, achievements and superb arcade/indie titles has made this my favourite generation by some distance. The only thing I dislike is the lack of platformers.

Take it to system Wars.

I will give some explanation why i beleve so.

1)We come to an era were the power of cpus-gpus can give us incretible number of options creating games.Even so we see that games are all feleling and playing tha same take for example that in the majority of games you are just SHOOTING things from terroriest to zombies carrying assault rifles!!!!!

The majority of games do not follow that mentality--moreover, even the majority of shooters I do not believe follow that notion. While we do have quite a number of games that involve shooting terrorists, and/or zombies, I don't believe that's a reason to call the generation as being the worst in gaming history.

2)Insted of trying to invent new gernes and of games we see gernes slowly disapear take for example platform games.What are your choises on platform games????.......Mario and......??????.Another example is rail shooters dont rush to answer i will not pay 60 usd-eur to play a game that last 1 hour becouse thats were the "evolving the gerne"comes in think about it.the dighners need only the half time yo make the visual matirial of a rail shooter that will give you many hours of lightgun action from making an fps.As for the programing AI for the modern fps games are real pain while in a rail shooter you need little to none AI programing.Even the survival horror gerne is fading away.Witch titles you will actualy label SURVIVAL horror????

This generation we have seen a lot of "blurring" between the lines of genres. Is this game a RPG, or is it a shooter? Questions like that come up a lot, and also focus on other ordeals like is this an Action-Adventure game or not? This generation has seen a huge upsoar of flash-based, touch-based, and motion-based games so the creativity and originality has been seen across many venues. What are your choices for platform games? How about Super Meat Boy? Or LIMBO? Little Big Planet? Braid? Outland? And many more...

3)Most of the best game franchises are becoming second rate games or changing gernes!!!!!!

*games*

Are we going to ignore all the great new franchises, and new iterations of old franchises?

4)Visuals above all.All games are eye candy while most of these is the only thing they offer.In many games the music is only there just becouse without it you will thing you presed the mute button on your tv set.I still listenthe ost from the old games FFVII-VIII,Silent hill,Shenmue(every track is a masterpiece)castlevania Mgs even the old sega arcade games had great scores.I can only bring 4 games in mind that have memorable ost Lost odyssey,Mgs 4,silent hill shatered memmories,assasins creed and some idividual tracks from action games most of them coming from hans zimmer.As for the gameplay all the new games feel the same with same goals and features.But the greatest loss is the scenario i can count the games witch actualy have ascenario to show in my fingers all the games have a basic scenario just to keep the game runing for a reason.Most modern game scenarios go like this start-end

My favorite games this generation do not have very good graphics... In fact, the notion of all games being eye-candy, or "visuals" above all just seems so misguided in the grand context of this generation that to say such is just so very strange to me. Portal 2 for example is an amazing game that looks good in its own right, but what it excels in and what it's renowned for is nothing... absolutely nothing revolving around its graphics... Or take Demon's Souls, Super Mario Galaxy 2, or Mass Effect. Same logic applies.

pagio12000

My thoughts in red.

I know about indie games i have alot by the way via steam.But the point is if the next gen continues the path this gen is going you will hardly see any games that are actualy diferent from eatch other

as for this gen i also love many games like Assasins creed "respect" Lost odysey MGS 4 castlevania lords of shadow silent hill shatered memories crysis call of duty and mutch more but i wasent impresed many times.

As for the developers as i say before insted of trying to improve theyr games (francises)they just switch to another gerne that they willl now it will sale without mutch effort.

I think this is the best generation

I agree with it being the worst. It has alot to do with the greed of the game companies as well. Games are released before they really should be cause they can always patch it later. Some issues cant be patched but that dosent stop them. Were given an option to buy extra content for a game on release day some of that content is even already on the disc. Most FPS have horrible cliche short single player modes and are really all about the MP community. Instead of getting more games like borderlands were you can do every mission in co-op, you get non stop MP games were all you do is deathmatch and capture the flag or capture the whatever.

My other gripe is the crappy consturcution of the consoles. Ive had just about every system from an nes to now and never had 1 system failure. This gen alone Ive had 7! 7 dead consoles in a span of a few years. Thats pathetic. I really have no consumer confidence anymore in the console makers and alot of the game companies themselves. Theres a few games i take interest in but have so far been pretty disappointed with how they turn out. Games are being made by Fortune 500 companies that need to turn a profit and make investors happy and perform well in the fiscal quarter. Games seem to sell more on the hype that surronds them than the actual substance the game itself carries. You dont need a good game if you have a game with a well known name attached to it.

I can see that you only made an account to post this.

Go outside and be social.

I can honestly say I've only loved a few games this generation. :(

I can see that you only made an account to post this.

Go outside and be social.

lasseeb

OP is just mad his mommy didn't buy him the latest and greatest. I mean I would be mad to If I was stuck with a garbage pc, then going on youtube and watching gameplay videos, then coming here telling everyone I have the latest and greatest, and my opinion is be all and end all. Well I'm on to you poorboy, actually a present day game system, (instead of your rusted out NES) play it for awhile, then come back and give an opinion. It will change drastically for the better.

OP is just mad his mommy didn't buy him the latest and greatest. I mean I would be mad to If I was stuck with a garbage pc, then going on youtube and watching gameplay videos, then coming here telling everyone I have the latest and greatest, and my opinion is be all and end all. Well I'm on to you poorboy, actually a present day game system, (instead of your rusted out NES) play it for awhile, then come back and give an opinion. It will change drastically for the better.

UntraceableHaze

Meh, giant wall of bad grammar text. None of your points hold water, this gen is just as good or better than last...

You have to find the right games. If you want to play great games this generation play games that focus on a strong story and gameplay. Those examples would be the Uncharted Series, ME Series, Fallout 3, RDR, AC, Portal Series and a few others. There are good multiplayer games too, but you just got to pick the right one and IMO COD is not one of them, but that's me. But my point there is something out there for you to enjoy from this generation.

I sort of agree with the OP, some more effort put into spelling and grammar would be great -what a difficult read. This generation's games are converging into some bland action hybrid standard, Final Fantasy died at FF13, we could forgive FF12 as a still enjoyable failure (by FF standards)but not this, while anything that bucks the trend is slammed as antiquated (Lost Odyssey for eg.). Mistwalker won't be releasing Last Story outside Japan, I guess they assume there isn't a market for it. Go figure.

Well to each their own I guess. Personally though having been an avid gamer for 30+ years this has been my favourite generation so far and I'm enjoying gaming more then ever.Archangel3371

Agreed. Not only are old franchises still active, but a good deal of enjoyable new ones have popped up.

The likes of Mass Effect, BioShock, Dead Space, Uncharted, Resistance, and plenty of others didn't even exist until this generation.

Just because certain franchises didn't deliver their strongest installments doesn't mean jack about what they will put out in the near FUTURE.

And BTW, the main reasons why games like Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil 5, and Devil May Cry 4 did have not have nearly as strong of a reception as their predecessors ... is because it was nearly IMPOSSIBLE to TOP what their predecessors had done. Even as a PS2 game, after being ported to the Wii, Resident Evil 4 is one of the console's absolute strongest titles (although that probably speaks more towards the lack of anything-worth-a-crap in the Wii's library, save for Nintendo's first-party franchises). And Final Fantasy XII? I don't understand how anyone could complain about what was nothing short of the ULTIMATE RPG experience on the PS2. FFVIII I hated so much, I never even finished. I spent three hours a day, six days a week, and over two MONTHS playing in Final Fantasy XII's immersive world and story. There was nowhere to go but down after that. You honestly expect every series to keep topping itself with each new installment?

And it's funny how the OP only mentions the "bad" stuff and fails to point out the contradicting evidence. The Metal Gear series delivered what was its ultimate installment to date, with gameplay, graphics, and an epic conclusion of a storyline absolutely eclipsing anything that came before.

And as for Silent Hill and Sonic? Well, those two franchises rarely put out installments that are well-received by critics in the first place.

Also, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is one of the highest-rated CONSOLE installments of the series to date. That means, aside from the DS games, it ranks pretty high on the list. It got a better reception than Lament of Innocence, so what else do you expect? And while it's true that the platformer genre has taken a hit, with Super Mario Galaxy (the highest-rated game of this generation thus far), the return of Donkey Kong Country, and the incomparable Ratchet & Clank series in full force, I don't see what the problem is.

I also find it funny how the OP failed to mention how Street Fighter IV has become possibly the most critically acclaimed fighting game of all time. All reasons why this generation far from "sucks."

Add to that list the innovative titles of Heavy Rain and the upcoming L.A. Noire ... and the argument is won.

And exactly how is Dragon Quest X being on the Wii an argument towards why this GENERATION of gaming is bad?

The absolute ONLY thing that I am crabby about is that fact that Kingdom Hearts has not yet tested the waters of this seventh generation yet ... all in due time, I suppose.

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"] And Final Fantasy XII? I don't understand how anyone could complain about what was nothing short of the ULTIMATE RPG experience on the PS2. FFVIII I hated so much, I never even finished. I spent three hours a day, six days a week, and over two MONTHS playing in Final Fantasy XII's immersive world and story. There was nowhere to go but down after that. You honestly expect every series to keep topping itself with each new installment?

SummerHillard

the story and characters were sub-standard in FF12.

the story and characters were sub-standard in FF12.

BoredGames

I honestly didn't care if any of the characters died.

Yeah, I was bummed about the lack of diversity in the characters and the fact that there were only six party members in the BEGINNING ... but that also allowed for closer development of the characters. They grew on me. Whereas in FFVII, with nine party members, some of which didn't even appear until the second half of the game, it was just completely unbalanced (like the game, have NEVER loved it).

And honestly, those things ended up being insignificant to me. The fact that FFXII is the only installment to date (at least in the main series) that features seamless transition from exploration to battle (as well as all three party members appearing on the screen and being controllable in the field)... is exactly why it is my favorite title in the series.

That's the main thing that did piss me off about FFXIII ... I didn't care so much that it was "linear," but I was absolutely pissed after finding out that they got rid of the Active Dimension Battle system that garnered FFXII so much praise. And the six-party, all-humanoid party was definitely harder to swallow a second time around.

But then again, it could be much worse. You could be playing FFXIV ...

You say that this generation is probably the worst in gaming history, but it's interesting to note that every single game mentioned in your post is Japanese. Yes, Japanese games haven't evolved as well as their Western counterparts. In general, they tend to be overly tedious and way too restrictive.

Before anyone accuses me of bias, realize that I'm a person who's somewhat fond of Japanese culture, grew up watching anime, and playing mostly Japanese games. Not everyone's going to agree, but these days, games made by Western developers are, for the most part, better designed. The Mass Effect series is the best I've played in a long time.

Buying a DS would give you some good Final Fantasy, Castlevania, and Dragon Quest games... Also, why don't you try some fresh games like Demon's Souls, which resurrected my faith in games becoming better and better over time.

You say that this generation is probably the worst in gaming history, but it's interesting to note that every single game mentioned in your post is Japanese. Yes, Japanese games haven't evolved as well as their Western counterparts. In general, they tend to be overly tedious and way too restrictive.

Before anyone accuses me of bias, realize that I'm a person who's somewhat fond of Japanese culture, grew up watching anime, and playing mostly Japanese games. Not everyone's going to agree, but these days, games made by Western developers are, for the most part, better designed. The Mass Effect series is the best I've played in a long time.

Blaze787