Today is "Sega Saturn Day"

16 years ago today the Saturn was released in NA for the amazingly too high pice of $399 us dollars. It failed for many reasons but that $399 sure didn't help! Thoughts?Tony-Baxter

saturn is the ultimate hardcore gamer console. it's definetely not for everyone but I think it's the best console ever made. it had the most diverse great games that still hold up very well today other then the 3d graphics games.

I was really dissapointed in the Saturn. There were so few games I enjoyed on it, I pretty much forgot about it once I got my N64. I also had to get a modchip in the system since many retailers carried so few Saturn games it felt near impossible to find the games I wanted.

I got a Saturn less than two months ago, it's a great system! It's really a shame it died so quickly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvlwBAcHV-s

Im not sure why alot of people seem to put som much emphesis on the Saturn's launch , which admittedly was lousy.

the price didn't stay high forever, it was lowered eventually and besides, the launch isnt a deciding factor.

if the launch meant anything, the Dreamcast would have been a massive success, and the PS3 would have been a miserable failure.

there are other , considerably more important reasons as to why the Saturn didn't achieve its full retail potential in the west, and I could list them , but people seem more concerned with putting the facts into neat little boxes they can understand, rather then the actual truth. (and this goes for the any aspect of history)

Im not sure why alot of people seem to put som much emphesis on the Saturn's launch , which admittedly was lousy.

the price didn't stay high forever, it was lowered eventually and besides, the launch isnt a deciding factor.

if the launch meant anything, the Dreamcast would have been a massive success, and the PS3 would have been a miserable failure.

there are other , considerably more important reasons as to why the Saturn didn't achieve its full retail potential in the west, and I could list them , but people seem more concerned with putting the facts into neat little boxes they can understand, rather then the actual truth. (and this goes for the any aspect of history)

Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

Im not sure why alot of people seem to put som much emphesis on the Saturn's launch , which admittedly was lousy.

the price didn't stay high forever, it was lowered eventually and besides, the launch isnt a deciding factor.

if the launch meant anything, the Dreamcast would have been a massive success, and the PS3 would have been a miserable failure.

there are other , considerably more important reasons as to why the Saturn didn't achieve its full retail potential in the west, and I could list them , but people seem more concerned with putting the facts into neat little boxes they can understand, rather then the actual truth. (and this goes for the any aspect of history)

AcidSoldner

who cares why it failed. the system is still great and especially in hindsight. many games were ahead of it's time and we can still enjoy them

who cares why it failed. the system is still great and especially in hindsight. many games were ahead of it's time and we can still enjoy them

bultje112

I always wanted one back when it came out. Never bought one to this day. I think it really did have alot of under-appreciated games, but some of them are too rare and expensive to make it worth looking into getting them these days. For me at least.

The Saturn failed for other reasons, the launch wasn't really what killed it at all. I always have to chuckle when people point at the Saturn's launch and make it seem like that's what killed the system. I think it's #2 behind the PS1 from that gen.

saturn is the ultimate hardcore gamer console. it's definetely not for everyone but I think it's the best console ever made. it had the most diverse great games that still hold up very well today other then the 3d graphics games.

bultje112

no other system had guardian heroes. therefore it is the best system of all time.

no other system had guardian heroes. therefore it is the best system of all time.

fadeetoblackk

I had that game, sadly ,Im in the minority who never liked it. I did sell it for £30 though.

not to worry, I own other Saturn games to compensate :P

I was really dissapointed in the Saturn. There were so few games I enjoyed on it, I pretty much forgot about it once I got my N64. I also had to get a modchip in the system since many retailers carried so few Saturn games it felt near impossible to find the games I wanted.

Grim_Reaper007

This...Most of the games I wanted nn that ram cart and were exports

[QUOTE="Grim_Reaper007"]

I was really dissapointed in the Saturn. There were so few games I enjoyed on it, I pretty much forgot about it once I got my N64. I also had to get a modchip in the system since many retailers carried so few Saturn games it felt near impossible to find the games I wanted.

sayyy-gaa

This...Most of the games I wanted nn that ram cart and were exports

also what saturn really captured for me like no other console was the true classic sega nostalgia/arcade feel. nothing gets me more emotional almost as setting up daytona usa and watch the opening, of the virtua cop games or check out sonic world in sonic jam, not to mention the sonic 3d and sonic r games and especially the music! happy 90s time! :D

[QUOTE="fadeetoblackk"]

no other system had guardian heroes. therefore it is the best system of all time.

Darkman2007

I had that game, sadly ,Im in the minority who never liked it. I did sell it for £30 though.

not to worry, I own other Saturn games to compensate :P

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="fadeetoblackk"]

no other system had guardian heroes. therefore it is the best system of all time.

fadeetoblackk

I had that game, sadly ,Im in the minority who never liked it. I did sell it for £30 though.

not to worry, I own other Saturn games to compensate :P

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

I had that game, sadly ,Im in the minority who never liked it. I did sell it for £30 though.

not to worry, I own other Saturn games to compensate :P

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="fadeetoblackk"] you just broke my heart.

Foulcry

both? there were 3 on the Saturn :P

[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] as far as Treasure games on the Saturn go , you should try out Sillhouette Mirage, its very fun , I personally prefer it to Guardian Heroes. also if you like beat em ups, I suggest Die Hard Arcade, its very good indeed.Darkman2007

both? there were 3 on the Saturn :P

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Foulcry"] Treasure is re-releasing Guardian Heroes HD on XBL and possibly PSN. They announced it a couple of days ago. So I'll get to play one of my favorite games on the Saturn again. I just wish both Panzer games would get re-released.Foulcry

both? there were 3 on the Saturn :P

[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

both? there were 3 on the Saturn :P

Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Foulcry"] you didn't know about Panzer Dragoon Saga? I'm only fimiliar with the first two. Not many people talk about the third one. So to be honest I didn't even know there was a third.Foulcry

Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Foulcry"] See there ya go thats how much I know about the games which isn't much I didn't even know Panzer Dragoon Saga was the third game I thought it was the second. So I missing an earlier one that I didn't even know about.

Foulcry

sadly the Xbox one the the one I didn't play.

actually thats a lie, there was another PD game on the Game Gear called Panzer Mini, which was JPN only, and very rare, I didn't play that one either , though its not considerd part of the main series.

[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] Panzer Dragoon --- Panzer Dragoon Zwei ---- Panzer Saga ----- Panzer Orta the whole series, with Orta being on the Xbox.Darkman2007

sadly the Xbox one the the one I didn't play.

actually thats a lie, there was another PD game on the Game Gear called Panzer Mini, which was JPN only, and very rare, I didn't play that one either , though its not considerd part of the main series.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Foulcry"] Thanks that helps. Yea I only knew of Panzer Dragoon and Panzer Dragoon Saga. I didn't even know there was one on the Xbox. Was the one on Xbox any good?Foulcry

sadly the Xbox one the the one I didn't play.

actually thats a lie, there was another PD game on the Game Gear called Panzer Mini, which was JPN only, and very rare, I didn't play that one either , though its not considerd part of the main series.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Foulcry"] Thanks that helps. Yea I only knew of Panzer Dragoon and Panzer Dragoon Saga. I didn't even know there was one on the Xbox. Was the one on Xbox any good?Foulcry

sadly the Xbox one the the one I didn't play.

actually thats a lie, there was another PD game on the Game Gear called Panzer Mini, which was JPN only, and very rare, I didn't play that one either , though its not considerd part of the main series.

Back on topic-- Meanwhile, Panzer Dragoon Mini and the horrendous OVA never happened. :lol:

[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

sadly the Xbox one the the one I didn't play.

actually thats a lie, there was another PD game on the Game Gear called Panzer Mini, which was JPN only, and very rare, I didn't play that one either , though its not considerd part of the main series.

Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

sadly the Xbox one the the one I didn't play.

actually thats a lie, there was another PD game on the Game Gear called Panzer Mini, which was JPN only, and very rare, I didn't play that one either , though its not considerd part of the main series.

Back on topic-- Meanwhile, Panzer Dragoon Mini and the horrendous OVA never happened. :lol:

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Foulcry"] Should I play them in order or are they like Final Fantasy where it doesn't matter where you start because neither one has anything to do with the other?Foulcry

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

Im not sure why alot of people seem to put som much emphesis on the Saturn's launch , which admittedly was lousy.

the price didn't stay high forever, it was lowered eventually and besides, the launch isnt a deciding factor.

if the launch meant anything, the Dreamcast would have been a massive success, and the PS3 would have been a miserable failure.

there are other , considerably more important reasons as to why the Saturn didn't achieve its full retail potential in the west, and I could list them , but people seem more concerned with putting the facts into neat little boxes they can understand, rather then the actual truth. (and this goes for the any aspect of history)

[QUOTE="fadeetoblackk"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

I had that game, sadly ,Im in the minority who never liked it. I did sell it for £30 though.

not to worry, I own other Saturn games to compensate :P

Darkman2007

die hard arcade is f'n fantastic. I have the japanese version I don't know about other versions but it has an old submarine arcade game and every submarine you shot got you extra credit. it has very deep battle gameplay and movesets and very good graphics. all of my friends love this game

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Foulcry"] Thanks that helps. Yea I only knew of Panzer Dragoon and Panzer Dragoon Saga. I didn't even know there was one on the Xbox. Was the one on Xbox any good?Foulcry

sadly the Xbox one the the one I didn't play.

actually thats a lie, there was another PD game on the Game Gear called Panzer Mini, which was JPN only, and very rare, I didn't play that one either , though its not considerd part of the main series.

play them in this order. panzer zwei, then panzer dragoon and then saga,. the story is very deep and complex I would also suggest looking up sites like panzer-dragoon.net to find out more about the stories after you have finished the game. if you don't plan to get the shooters or finish them, then at leats check all the videos on youtube for the story

For a game console back then,that was RIDICULOUS! But,if its a cool console,it dosen't matter how much money it is.

I paid full price for ps3 4 years ago and never regretted it for a day. same with dreamcast, which was quite expensive in europe when it came out. little more than 300$

I paid full price for ps3 4 years ago and never regretted it for a day. same with dreamcast, which was quite expensive in europe when it came out. little more than 300$

bultje112

Ya people fail to realize that launches for just about every platform that has come out has pretty much sucked.

AcidSoldner

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]

Ya people fail to realize that launches for just about every platform that has come out has pretty much sucked.

pills4louis

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

Im not sure why alot of people seem to put som much emphesis on the Saturn's launch , which admittedly was lousy.

the price didn't stay high forever, it was lowered eventually and besides, the launch isnt a deciding factor.

if the launch meant anything, the Dreamcast would have been a massive success, and the PS3 would have been a miserable failure.

there are other , considerably more important reasons as to why the Saturn didn't achieve its full retail potential in the west, and I could list them , but people seem more concerned with putting the facts into neat little boxes they can understand, rather then the actual truth. (and this goes for the any aspect of history)

Captainqwark10

[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"]16 years ago today the Saturn was released in NA for the amazingly too high pice of $399 us dollars. It failed for many reasons but that $399 sure didn't help! Thoughts?Foulcry

[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"]16 years ago today the Saturn was released in NA for the amazingly too high pice of $399 us dollars. It failed for many reasons but that $399 sure didn't help! Thoughts?godzillavskong