http://top100.ign.com/2007/
Not been through it all just yet hope to finish off soon, but what do people think?
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One of the issues I had with this list, is that modern games always seemed to get blackballed. There 5 games in the top 30 that were released between 2000 and 2007. Only 5. . . . Do the math if you want, but that just doesn't add up proportionately. Nostalgia always proves to be a little too powerful for these lists.
But I suppose overall it was pretty good. It did raise a pretty scary point to me though. Super Mario Brothers ranked at number 1 (I can agree with that I suppose). But they pointed out that many younger games have never played this game, or at least in it's original incarnation. Not only did that make me feel old, but it did make me realize that in another 10 years that's a piece of gaming history that most people will never experience.
One of the issues I had with this list, is that modern games always seemed to get blackballed. There 5 games in the top 30 that were released between 2000 and 2007. Only 5. . . . Do the math if you want, but that just doesn't add up proportionately. Nostalgia always proves to be a little too powerful for these lists.
But I suppose overall it was pretty good. It did raise a pretty scary point to me though. Super Mario Brothers ranked at number 1 (I can agree with that I suppose). But they pointed out that many younger games have never played this game, or at least in it's original incarnation. Not only did that make me feel old, but it did make me realize that in another 10 years that's a piece of gaming history that most people will never experience.
Robio_basic
As any such list, it's flawed. As much as I love Shadow of the Colossus, it doesn't deserve to be in the Top 20 of The Greatest Games of All Time. I mean, come on. God of War is much too high as well for my taste. Also, I find the fact that there's no room for Vice City, San Andreas, Heroes of Might and Magic III, and The Longest Journey in the Top 100 flat-out ridiculous and stupid.
If nothing else, I'm glad someone recognizes that Half-Life 2 is better than the original game.
that is easy to rationalize. a game must stand the test of time to see how it is viewed in future years in order to be any greatest of all time candidate. especially in today's age where you have an ubershooter showing up every 6 months claiming to be the next comming of god, and ends up forgotten when the next one hits.OneWingedAngeI
That's true to an extent, but there's also no denying that that list is rife with old games that do not stand the test of time and are not in any way, shape, or form better than certain modern games which have been completely ignored.
vice city and san andreas werent really ground breaking games at all. they just added more options to GTAIII, which is the only one really mentionable... IMO :POneWingedAngeI
Well, I was under the impression that this was a list of the best games ever, not the most influential or innovative. :wink:
I went and played through Grand Theft Auto III this year and it was only then that I realized just how much has the series evolved in a staggeringly short amount of time.
As any such list, it's flawed. As much as I love Shadow of the Colossus, it doesn't deserve to be in the Top 20 of The Greatest Games of All Time. I mean, come on. God of War is much too high as well for my taste. Also, I find the fact that there's no room for Vice City, San Andreas, Heroes of Might and Magic III, and The Longest Journey in the Top 100 flat-out ridiculous and stupid.
If nothing else, I'm glad someone recognizes that Half-Life 2 is better than the original game.
UpInFlames
Why? I always think sotc is way ahead of its time...the way you fight in long range mode using the bow and close range using the sword, the epic battles, the open and detailed world, the platforming,the soundtrack, the unique story... the whole atmosphere it's just amazing. Shadowis among the few games which leaves a mark in the industry. The only problem it had was the clunky controls...
[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"]vice city and san andreas werent really ground breaking games at all. they just added more options to GTAIII, which is the only one really mentionable... IMO :PUpInFlames
Well, I was under the impression that this was a list of the best games ever, not the most influential or innovative. :wink:
I went and played through Grand Theft Auto III this year and it was only then that I realized just how much has the series evolved in a staggeringly short amount of time.
[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"]vice city and san andreas werent really ground breaking games at all. they just added more options to GTAIII, which is the only one really mentionable... IMO :PUpInFlames
Well, I was under the impression that this was a list of the best games ever, not the most influential or innovative. :wink:
I went and played through Grand Theft Auto III this year and it was only then that I realized just how much has the series evolved in a staggeringly short amount of time.
[QUOTE="OneWingedAngeI"]vice city and san andreas werent really ground breaking games at all. they just added more options to GTAIII, which is the only one really mentionable... IMO :PUpInFlames
Well, I was under the impression that this was a list of the best games ever, not the most influential or innovative. :wink:
I went and played through Grand Theft Auto III this year and it was only then that I realized just how much has the series evolved in a staggeringly short amount of time.
I don't think it actually said "best" games, it said "greatest". Greatness can cetainly be taken to refer not only to how good a gameis, but also to how important it is/was. Yes, San Andreas was better than GTAIII, but was it greater? I think there's a difference.
I'm not saying that the list wasn't flawed, but the focus on oldergamesdoes have it's merits. It's often easier to tell from the vantage point of a few years (or decades)whether something was truly great, or was just the flavor of the month.
This whole deal IGN is doing is completely flawed. They should adopt Gamespot's idea of just creating a "Hall of Fame" that are ordered by the date of induction and nothing else and are all "equally great."foxhound_fox
Exactly. While I don't disagree with most of the games IGN selected, I certainly take issue with their order. It's almost impossible to accurately rate them on a numerical scale, since many games could be considered equals.
No SMG, SSBM, TP? IGN itself said SMG was the best platformer ever, and TP was the best Zelda game, IIRC.k_smoove
For the game to qualify to be on the list it had to have been at least 1 year old, so that's why Galaxy wasn't on it, and may have been why TP wasn't included. Not sure why Melee wasn't on the list, as it was superior to the original Smash Brothers in every way.
And for the record, if anyone is interested I'm putting together a Top 50 list of my own. If anyone is interested in contributing please leave a message in my blog. It won't require much work from anyone (aside from myself), and should generate a pretty interesting list. Most importantly I'll have a way to explain how the final list is compiled and people won't take as much issue with which games finish in what place.
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