ultima IV is apparently unplayable by "ipod generation" gamers

yes thats right.. apparently 18 and under folks cant STAND ultima IV.. mani remeber that game it was sooo much fun.

the main problem is they like their games hard and fast and simplistic.. the subjects they tested (age 16-19, male and female, harcore and casual) ALL couldnt handle the game and none of them could finish the game.. every single one gave up.

the test subject claimed they couldnt be bothered with such an indirect freeflowing game with no sense of direction.. they were even given the guidebooks (the old ones (yes those ones)) and they still gave up.

why? no one bothered to read the MASSSIVE book fo wisdom and book of britannia. as a result very few made any progress and simply gave up trying.

so how doe sone pwn a new age gamer.. challeneg em to a race to the finish in ultima IV

http://kotaku.com/5647135/the-old-role-playing-game-the-kids-cant-stand

Sucks for them I guess. Doesn't mean all iPod owners are like that.

Ultima universe FTW! Played Ultima Online from 1997 to 2008!

Sucks for them I guess. Doesn't mean all iPod owners are like that.

LovePotionNo9

the "Ipod generation" is a term not a stereotype. or to refer to actual ipod owners.

its the age of mobile computing and handhelds.. the ipod was the real obvious one on the lsit.. before it these items generally werent very popular.. technically spekaing one could say it started the smartphones, it started the netbooks and tablet, and it started the mp3 and mp4 as a file medium. or at leats made it significantly more mainstream.

and those born into that generation of people and grew up in it are the "ipod generation", just like there was a flower power generation back in the 1970's

I'm turning 30 soon and I agree with this "ipod" generation. Even if the ultima serie were revolutionary for its time, it was not fun back then or now tryin' to solve puzzels which made/make no sense whatsoever.

The whole "space ace" thing really pushed me away from the series aswell.

seriously? Ultima IV is one the best RPG's ever made

maybe the teacher should try showing these videos to their students

I'm 15, I played it when I was 12 and liked it...o_o

The same seems to go for any RPG pre-1990 or so. I love when people label some old school games as "unplayable" ...hmm, that's funny, I'm having no problems playing supposed unplayable game =D

Oh! This is sorta off topic, but I was wondering what people's opinions on the NES version of Ultima IV are. I bought Ultima III for the NES a little while back as I heard it was pretty true to the original, with some improvements. I've read that the SNES Ultima games are horrible and stripped down, but I can't find a solid answer for Ultima IV.

dragon warrior 1.. now THATS an rpg! twas my favourite game back in the day

Young people these days need to be spoon fed when it comes to anything they do.

dragon warrior 1.. now THATS an rpg! twas my favourite game back in the day

ionusX

Dragon Warrior was drew a lot of inspiration from Ultima 3

The same seems to go for any RPG pre-1990 or so. I love when people label some old school games as "unplayable" ...hmm, that's funny, I'm having no problems playing supposed unplayable game =D

Oh! This is sorta off topic, but I was wondering what people's opinions on the NES version of Ultima IV are. I bought Ultima III for the NES a little while back as I heard it was pretty true to the original, with some improvements. I've read that the SNES Ultima games are horrible and stripped down, but I can't find a solid answer for Ultima IV.

Archendrus

From Wikipedia:

Graphics had been completely redone, as was the music. The dialogue options were quite limited once again. Another change is that you cannot have all seven recruitable characters in your party at the same time, as you could in other versions. Any character over the four you could have would stay at a hostel at Castle Britannia, requiring you to return there to change characters.

However, the combat system was fairly close to the computer games, with the additional option to use automated combat.

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The same seems to go for any RPG pre-1990 or so. I love when people label some old school games as "unplayable" ...hmm, that's funny, I'm having no problems playing supposed unplayable game =D

Oh! This is sorta off topic, but I was wondering what people's opinions on the NES version of Ultima IV are. I bought Ultima III for the NES a little while back as I heard it was pretty true to the original, with some improvements. I've read that the SNES Ultima games are horrible and stripped down, but I can't find a solid answer for Ultima IV.

ohthemanatee

From Wikipedia:

Graphics had been completely redone, as was the music. The dialogue options were quite limited once again. Another change is that you cannot have all seven recruitable characters in your party at the same time, as you could in other versions. Any character over the four you could have would stay at a hostel at Castle Britannia, requiring you to return there to change characters.

However, the combat system was fairly close to the computer games, with the additional option to use automated combat.

Hmm, I might pick that one up too then. Seems like a decent port =D

I'm 21 and trying to play it for the first time now having downloaded the game yesterday. I must admit I have no idea what I'm doing. Maybe it doesn't help that I downloaded the game and have no idea where to find the information it keeps referencing to but just basic conversation is almost impossible. All I know is "job, quest, follow" and their is nothing to help teach me all the possible conversation options.

I've got no gold, the drops from monsters suck and I think my guys got poisened since I started losing health when moving a tile (and inevitably died for the first time). Until I came online today I had no idea what the point of the game was. To be fair to all the ipod generation, this is a really unforgiving game that does not welcome new comers.

I'm 21 and trying to play it for the first time now having downloaded the game yesterday. I must admit I have no idea what I'm doing. Maybe it doesn't help that I downloaded the game and have no idea where to find the information it keeps referencing to but just basic conversation is almost impossible. All I know is "job, quest, follow" and their is nothing to help teach me all the possible conversation options.

I've got no gold, the drops from monsters suck and I think my guys got poisened since I started losing health when moving a tile (and inevitably died for the first time). Until I came online today I had no idea what the point of the game was. To be fair to all the ipod generation, this is a really unforgiving game that does not welcome new comers.

timma25

yes thats right.. apparently 18 and under folks cant STAND ultima IV.. mani remeber that game it was sooo much fun.

the main problem is they like their games hard and fast and simplistic.. the subjects they tested (age 16-19, male and female, harcore and casual) ALL couldnt handle the game and none of them could finish the game.. every single one gave up.

the test subject claimed they couldnt be bothered with such an indirect freeflowing game with no sense of direction.. they were even given the guidebooks (the old ones (yes those ones)) and they still gave up.

why? no one bothered to read the MASSSIVE book fo wisdom and book of britannia. as a result very few made any progress and simply gave up trying.

so how doe sone pwn a new age gamer.. challeneg em to a race to the finish in ultima IV

ionusX

The key difference between computer and console RPGs back then was one of accessibility and presentation, so it shouldn't be surprising that today's gamers (both computer and console types) who are even more used to accessibility and presentation would have even greater issues playing 80s computer RPGs, since even console RPGs from back then are considered inaccessible today let alone computer RPGs of that era.

The same seems to go for any RPG pre-1990 or so. I love when people label some old school games as "unplayable" ...hmm, that's funny, I'm having no problems playing supposed unplayable game =D

Oh! This is sorta off topic, but I was wondering what people's opinions on the NES version of Ultima IV are. I bought Ultima III for the NES a little while back as I heard it was pretty true to the original, with some improvements. I've read that the SNES Ultima games are horrible and stripped down, but I can't find a solid answer for Ultima IV.

Archendrus