What console do you think didn't get the praise it should have

xbox

xbox

C0SMIC_DUCK

The Dreamcast.

Gamecube. In an age where higher end graphics were the "in" thing at the time, it was left as a lagging console to quite a few gamers. It couldn't perform as well as the xbox, had next to no online component, and the multiplatform games were typically garnered to the ps2 because of its popularity--resulting in sometimes lackluster gamecube versions. Could it outperform the ps2? Some games suggest so(Twilight Princess/Resident Evil 4/Mario Sunshine), but these games were generally first party releases, or specifically designed for the Cube from the ground up. The console is taking on a similar role as the ps3, this gen, in this respect, where potentially the hardware is stronger than the competition, but pushing the console often times doesn't make sense to developers from a business perspective.

Looking back however, it was perhaps the strongest of the three consoles. It brought about a somewhat limited library, but a varied and classic one. Games such as Pikmin, Mario Sunshine, Zelda(particularly Wind Waker), and metroid prime will likely take on the same fate as the classics from the N64 era.

The Dreamcast.

mmofnbs

I hear nothing but praise about the Dreamcast.

Sega Saturn, at least here in the west.

Sega Saturn, at least here in the west.

joesh89

Sega Saturn, at least here in the west.

The sega cd was an add-on though. How does it deserve praise if it helped run Sega into the ground? And then the 32X? It's almost as if Sega was trying to make the Saturn out of the Genesis, initially. Afterall, the Saturn was, at least at first, supposed to be the ultimate 2D console. I think I may go buy a Saturn this month.

The Sega Mastersystem - People tend to look back on the SMS and think that it was inferior to the NES, based on factors of quantity over quality. Sure the SMS had fewer games then the NES had, but the games the SMS did have were awesome. People just tend to overlook the SMS which drives me crazy. But I guess it's all good, because this way there are more games available for me to purchase & play, and at lower prices. I love the SMS!!!

The sega cd was an add-on though. How does it deserve praise if it helped run Sega into the ground? And then the 32X? It's almost as if Sega was trying to make the Saturn out of the Genesis, initially. Afterall, the Saturn was, at least at first, supposed to be the ultimate 2D console. I think I may go buy a Saturn this month.

Heirren

The sega cd was an add-on though. How does it deserve praise if it helped run Sega into the ground? And then the 32X? It's almost as if Sega was trying to make the Saturn out of the Genesis, initially. Afterall, the Saturn was, at least at first, supposed to be the ultimate 2D console. I think I may go buy a Saturn this month.

I actually liked my 3DO -Star Control 2 and Super Wing Commander are still 2 of my favorite games -also enjoyed Return Fire (yes I know these were available on other systems) But I enjoyed it rawsavon

The 3DO? Holy crap, I haven't heard that name in a long time...I loved my 3DO! Definately a console that was denied recognition...probably because of it's obscene price tag at the time.

What did I like on it...Guardian War and Wing Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger definately stick out in my mind...Need for Speed and Road Rash had better control and gameplay that it's PS1 ports, but again the poor 3DO remained forgotten.

Another consoel I really enjoyed (that I don't think got the widespread praise it deserved) was the Saturn.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]I actually liked my 3DO -Star Control 2 and Super Wing Commander are still 2 of my favorite games -also enjoyed Return Fire (yes I know these were available on other systems) But I enjoyed it chefstubbies

The 3DO? Holy crap, I haven't heard that name in a long time...I loved my 3DO! Definately a console that was denied recognition...probably because of it's obscene price tag at the time.

What did I like on it...Guardian War and Wing Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger definately stick out in my mind...Need for Speed and Road Rash had better control and gameplay that it's PS1 ports, but again the poor 3DO remained forgotten.

Another consoel I really enjoyed (that I don't think got the widespread praise it deserved) was the Saturn.

The Turbografx family of consoles, especially the Turbo Duo. It has a solid library of games, including the first import I ever obsessed over, Dracula X. I think it was the only console that did the CD-ROM format justice before the Saturn/PS1 came around. It wasn't littered with FMV games.

Turbografx/PC Engine, Saturn, 3DO, Gamecube, and 32X.

Gamecube is the most underrated system ever in my opinion. No online play? Big deal, PS2's online play was lame anyways. Gamecube had some of the best games ever; Windwaker, Super Mario Sunshine, Smash Bros, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil 4, and so on. So what if it wasn't as powerful as an X-box, it had style, and what is in my opinion the best controller ever made.

the gamecube. it had online mode, a port which makes it have better looking games than wii(only on older models and if you dont use first party on the port. on an HDTV, it was easier to develop for. it had extra ports for addons that they could have used as a DVD player addon or a NES/SNES/N64 addon. it had a port which you can use an SD card addon. i guess people had no sense in the features that the GCN had that the others didnt.

the sega saturn had the best tech for a cd based console. it had very good quality games. it was the only 5th gen console to have online. it was the first console to have a clock and an animated start up screen that is more appealing than the ps1 or ps2 or DC. it had the best audio for its time because it went through a whole 'nother proccessor. it was a huge 2d powerhouse

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

The sega cd was an add-on though. How does it deserve praise if it helped run Sega into the ground? And then the 32X? It's almost as if Sega was trying to make the Saturn out of the Genesis, initially. Afterall, the Saturn was, at least at first, supposed to be the ultimate 2D console. I think I may go buy a Saturn this month.

codezer0

Granted they were pretty much failures I think its best to judge them at this point in time, over fifteen years later, on the game library that they had. The Sega CD in particular had some amazing games.

The Sega Saturn and Sega Dreamcast are the first two that come to mind. The other would be the Neo Geo, but I think that one is more so that no one even knows it exists.

The Saturn. There are many games on it that are very overlooked and underappreciated. It had much potential, and the console just looks awesome. Too bad Bernie Stolar didn't care about it.

The Dreamcast is the one that comes to mind. It was a good system and should have done better. The PS2 really put it away, maybe it would have been around longer if not for the PS2.

Gamecube I never owned one but I've played plenty of games on it.bigd575

Gamecube. In an age where higher end graphics were the "in" thing at the time, it was left as a lagging console to quite a few gamers. It couldn't perform as well as the xbox, had next to no online component, and the multiplatform games were typically garnered to the ps2 because of its popularity--resulting in sometimes lackluster gamecube versions. Could it outperform the ps2? Some games suggest so(Twilight Princess/Resident Evil 4/Mario Sunshine), but these games were generally first party releases, or specifically designed for the Cube from the ground up. The console is taking on a similar role as the ps3, this gen, in this respect, where potentially the hardware is stronger than the competition, but pushing the console often times doesn't make sense to developers from a business perspective.

Looking back however, it was perhaps the strongest of the three consoles. It brought about a somewhat limited library, but a varied and classic one. Games such as Pikmin, Mario Sunshine, Zelda(particularly Wind Waker), and metroid prime will likely take on the same fate as the classics from the N64 era.

Heirren

The Gamecube. It was more than just a smash bros melee machine.

The biggest claim was that there was nothing on it but what about:

Wave Race, Pikimin 1 and 2, Star Fox Adventures, Star Fox Assault, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3, Resident Evil 4, Mario Sunshine, Mario Kart, Zelda Windwaker and Twilight Princess, Animal Crossing, F-Zero GX, Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2, Eternal Darkness, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Khalos, and a few others.

That's 22 games available for the system not counting the mutiplats. Viewtiful Joe eventually did come to the PS2 but it was primarily considered a GC game. Plus you had thePrince ofPersia Trilogy, Soul Calibur 2for cool multiplats. Granted it'snot a huge mountain of games like the PS2 was but then no other systemhad PS2 status either. You couldSay NES did for it's time/

People make it out like all GC had was smash bros and that was it. There was quite a bit more.

Gamecube is the most underrated system ever in my opinion. No online play? Big deal, PS2's online play was lame anyways. Gamecube had some of the best games ever; Windwaker, Super Mario Sunshine, Smash Bros, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil 4, and so on. So what if it wasn't as powerful as an X-box, it had style, and what is in my opinion the best controller ever made.

Shadowtails9000

In addition to my N64, this thread has made me want my Gamecube back, and also realize that I missed quite a few classics. Why oh why do I give things to family members. I gotta make some phone calls.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]I actually liked my 3DO -Star Control 2 and Super Wing Commander are still 2 of my favorite games -also enjoyed Return Fire (yes I know these were available on other systems) But I enjoyed it chefstubbies

The 3DO? Holy crap, I haven't heard that name in a long time...I loved my 3DO! Definately a console that was denied recognition...probably because of it's obscene price tag at the time.

What did I like on it...Guardian War and Wing Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger definately stick out in my mind...Need for Speed and Road Rash had better control and gameplay that it's PS1 ports, but again the poor 3DO remained forgotten.

Another consoel I really enjoyed (that I don't think got the widespread praise it deserved) was the Saturn.

LOL I wanted a 3DO and now that you mention it I remember why I never got one.Wasn't it like 600$

Yeah, Sega Needs to get back in the console biz. The Dreamcast was such a great console--it's too bad it didn't flourish the way it should have. One thing I will say, however, is in hindsight, it stole quite a bit of the "wow" factor away from the ps2. We were already playing the next step up in quite a few genres that, by the time the ps2 launched, it had a "been there done that" feel. Soul Calibur turned out better than Tekken, the 2k sports lineup was better than Madden, and the overall depth of the library was far superior for quite awhile. It's a shame people blindly follow consoles because of the previous one gaining the most popular. Anybody else feel this way?

I'm not bashing but its a known fact that the cube was more powerful than the PS 2.It went the X-Box then the Cube and then the PS 2.

fubbal

It was, however, just like the ps3/360 war going on now, the bulk of the ps2 games, particularly the multiplatform ones, performed much better than the Gamecube. The Gamecube was notorious for murky textures.

Oh ya I feel that way for sure.I also agree that the dreamcast had a far better game library than the ps 2 for a time.Heck to me the saturn had a better library than the ps 1 for a time.

Yeah, Sega Needs to get back in the console biz. The Dreamcast was such a great console--it's too bad it didn't flourish the way it should have. One thing I will say, however, is in hindsight, it stole quite a bit of the "wow" factor away from the ps2. We were already playing the next step up in quite a few genres that, by the time the ps2 launched, it had a "been there done that" feel. Soul Calibur turned out better than Tekken, the 2k sports lineup was better than Madden, and the overall depth of the library was far superior for quite awhile. It's a shame people blindly follow consoles because of the previous one gaining the most popular. Anybody else feel this way?

[QUOTE="fubbal"]

I'm not bashing but its a known fact that the cube was more powerful than the PS 2.It went the X-Box then the Cube and then the PS 2.

Heirren

It was, however, just like the ps3/360 war going on now, the bulk of the ps2 games, particularly the multiplatform ones, performed much better than the Gamecube. The Gamecube was notorious for murky textures.

Ya but if you look up the specs the cube was more powerful than the ps 2.Look at the resident evil 4 review here on gamespot......They even talk about how resident evil 4 looks good on the ps 2 but looked better on the cube.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_GameCubeand then for the ps 2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2#Technical_specifications.

The only area that the ps 2 beat the cube was the storage or discs used.

I understand that the specs say otherwise, but just like the ps3/360, where games like Uncharted 2 are tops in terms of visuals on a console are concerned, ultimately most games(mainly multiplats) Look better on the 360.

It was, however, just like the ps3/360 war going on now, the bulk of the ps2 games, particularly the multiplatform ones, performed much better than the Gamecube. The Gamecube was notorious for murky textures.

Heirren

Yeah, that's my point. Proof is in the pudding. The bulk of the games looked better on the ps2.

I think you must be mixing up the Gamecube and the N64, the Gamecube was a texturing powerhouse for the time, whilst the PS2 was undisputed as having the worst texture capabilities of the generation, most ports from Dreamcast to PS2 actually have their textures downgraded to fit on PS2.

90% of multiformats were better on Gamecube, yeah they didn't use the Ganecubeto the max but they were identical to the PS2 versions but often with better frame rates.

gamecube. seems plenty of people agree with me here too. play a game on GC and then try playing the same game with a different controller...

The Sega Game Gear. It was so innovative at the time it came out, and I thought it was 10x better than Gameboy. At this time, it was only the original green and slightly less green Gameboy that wasout. No Gameboy Advance, no Gameboy Color, not even Gameboy Pocket yet. Yet here came Game Gear with FULL color games, and a backlit screen in a portable system! It was freaking amazing! The only downside to the Game Gearwas that it used up batteries faster than Gameboy, but that issue could be solved with the AC Adapter and/or rechargeable batteries. It had great Sega titles to back it up too like Sonic the Hedgehog games, Golden Axe, Mortal Kombat,DuckTales, X-Men and many more.

-Nate-

I'm going with the Dreamcast. =-)

The Sega Mastersystem - People tend to look back on the SMS and think that it was inferior to the NES, based on factors of quantity over quality. Sure the SMS had fewer games then the NES had, but the games the SMS did have were awesome. People just tend to overlook the SMS which drives me crazy. But I guess it's all good, because this way there are more games available for me to purchase & play, and at lower prices. I love the SMS!!!

JannettyTRocker