What's your opinion about hard games?

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#1 Lox_Cropek
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Do you like it? Hate it?

Do you enjoy the extra challenge or would you rather play an easier game for less frustration?

I'm a fan of hard games, what about you?

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#2 ionusX
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i enjoy games with learnign curves to each level. like for example id like to see game where ever level starts off easy but slowly builds to blisteringly hard at the end of the level.

kinda like space invaders of old.. the last ship was always so hard to hit

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#3 Legendaryscmt
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I usually play games to have a good time or to blow off steam, so I really don't like it when games get 'hard'. However, I'm more tolerant to games that are hard because of difficulty, rather than being hard because it's cheap.

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#4 doubalfa
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depends on what makes the game difficult
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#5 TransformerRobo
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I don't like hard games. A game that's too difficult is just not fun.

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#6 ZombieKiller7
Member since 2011 • 6463 Posts

Give me a few examples of "hard" games.

I've never played anything I couldn't finish, other than due to a bug.

That said I like it when a game is tough enough to keep me challenged.

But there is a fine line between hard and frustrating.

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#7 xdeathpandax
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I'm not sure if you mean difficult games in general or games that have difficulty settings that you can change to hard. Anyway I quite like a good challenge as long as the game is very enjoyable. If a game has difficulty settings, I will usually play through the first time on easy or normal, if it was awesome I will play through on hard to test myself.

Games like Super Meat Boy which are just insanely hard I adore! I am making it my mission to someday geet 100% on it :P

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#8 Roweanos313
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calling battletoads "hard" is an insult, i have never EVER seen or heard of someone that has beat it, and yet i try and try and try...

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#9 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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I thrive under pressure
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#10 Koi-Neon-X
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I think after many years of gaming on the NES, SG, SNES,PS1, PS2,N64, and completing my fair share of challenging anddifficult gamesI find myself embracing easier games these daysto be honest. I don't mind a decent challenge from time to time, but nothing difficult or frustrating:(

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#11 campzor
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i think devs should stop focusing on A.I and health/damage in regards to 'difficulty' and should start focusing (again) on level design and mission/objectives etc..
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#12 MaskJackal
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It depends on what type of difficulty it is, and how much a clever player can learn to overcome it. Some challenges are unfair, and unforgiving, like some older NES games, while others are just an excuse to experiment.

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#13 SovietsUnited
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Harder games cost more time and effort spent, I love them :)

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#14 silentnightmere
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The occasional tough game is great. I wish there were more to come by. But I mean the oh man what weapon/potion/magic/armor will I need to beat this guy ?? not the oh my god call of duty 5 world at war grenade fest sh*t
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#15 wiouds
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If a game challenge come only from the speed of pressing buttons then it is not that good.

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#16 Novemberrr
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I enjoy hard games where there is a complexity in the challenges presented before me..not an overwhelmingly annoying onslaught of enemies that rip me to pieces instantly..that makes me angry. :lol:
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#17 lpjazzman220
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depends on why they are hard...hard cause the other players are good is great...hard cause the ai is good and the game allows for realism is great...hard cause of camera angles, bad hit detection, lag, bad controls, endless spawns, bad mechanics, broken mechanics, etc is just aweful

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#18 GeoffZak
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I don't like it when games hold your hand for too long. Blizzard did that with Wrath of the Lich King, but thankfully they made the game a bit more difficult again with Cataclysm.

When I beat a difficult boss in a difficult game I feel like I really accomplished something.

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#19 Celldrax
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I just play games for fun. Rarely do I look for a serious challenge in a game.

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#20 meetroid8
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I don't enjoy excessively difficult games. I generally prefer to play games on lower difficulty settings.
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#21 lensflare15
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I love a good challenge. As long as it's well put together and fun, sure I'll give it a chance. I'll probably suck at it, but oh well...

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#22 mems_1224
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depends. if its just a challenge like playing mass effect on insanity then im all for it. if its just hard and a pain in the ass for the sake of being a pain in the ass like demon souls then no. i play games to relax and have fun, not to add to my frustration
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#23 kayoticdreamz
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The occasional tough game is great. I wish there were more to come by. But I mean the oh man what weapon/potion/magic/armor will I need to beat this guy ?? not the oh my god call of duty 5 world at war grenade fest sh*tsilentnightmere
ya i agree. but games like WoW(havdent played it but ive heard about) and black ops(vietanam level i hate you) that are just cheap cheap cheap cheap can die.
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#24 Jackc8
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I prefer a game of average difficulty played on the medium setting. I've completed a few games on their hardest difficulty to get a platinum, but it's just a pain and more frustrating than fun. I certainly don't want a game to be too easy either, but spending almost a whole evening just trying to get past a few miscellaneous guys...not really my thing.

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#25 gamnerd95
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I like relaxing when playing games,getting competitive or hard isn't my thing so i always play games on easy

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#27 Moha3000
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I don't like hard games. A game that's too difficult is just not fun.

TransformerRobo

And a game too easy is just LAME

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#28 DecadesOfGaming
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depends on the game

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#29 felanoma
Member since 2006 • 25 Posts

I only play in hardest dificulty on all games, also i like puzzlew games like tomb Raider used to be, Portal, puzzles in the old Resident evil where prety cool too.

Cheers!

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#30 hrt_rulz01
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I don't like hard games. A game that's too difficult is just not fun.

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Yeah exactly. I play games for enjoyment, and when a game is too hard, it becomes frustrating. That's why I usually play games on Easy. I'd rather take my time through a game & enjoy it instead of having my head blown off every 10 seconds.
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#31 kakha_96
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I like challenging games. But it gets on my nerves when i can't win a game no matter how hard i try. But nowadays games like this are rear

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#32 enz2
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I just want to play without getting too frustrated. I don't have the patience to practice the skills for hard mode.

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#33 imetamonster
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Depends,

games like Ninja Gaiden are still fun even after dieing 6487298749827 timesin a row.

But some games just get frusterating and boring after dieing a few times.

All depends what the feel is like.

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#34 Sharpie125
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I don't like bull****. That is my only requirement. I yelled obscenities at my monitor in various parts when I played Mafia 2 (on normal) and that was mostly due to bad level design or inconsistent AI, and worst of all, terrible checkpoints.

I enjoy "inherently" hard games like ARMA 2 for its specific experience--simulated war shouldn't be easy, and I like the tension and intensity of a good firefight, even if it will probably result in my death before I can crawl out from my hiding place under the humvee.

But if the game's hard just to test your reflexes and test your patience, get the hell out. When I want to feel like a badass, let me feel like a badass.

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#35 TheHRchannel
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Fun yet it can be irritating if you're not getting anywhere.
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#36 TheLordHimself
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I love a good challenge in games. (Dark Souls is my most anticipated game as of right now)

I just don't like it when the 'challenge' is more a case of the game being cheap or relying on luck. Or hard modes where you just know that the developers have gone "Oh just throw in loads of enemies and I'm sure it's possible somehow. OK, now we go gold!"

Or challenges that ask things of you that you simply shouldn't be tested on. I remember my all dogtag run through of MGS2 on extreme difficulty, and the part that killed me the most was the stupid minigame near the end where Solidus is strangling you and you have to hit the O button about a trillion times in one minuteto avoid dying. I was going to play through on European Extreme but I'd rather keep my index finger intact thank you...

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#37 edinsftw
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I dont know tell me when there has been a hard game in the last 5 years, dont say demon souls, up to new game ++ is still easy.

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#38 pokemondude2012
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I really dont play games to be challenged. i play them for fun. but once i a while i enjoy to be challenged.
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#39 JohnnyWPSP
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I hate them. There is a diffrence between a fair challenge and frustration. I don't mind easy games though, but a medium difficulty is ideal to me.
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#40 soulless4now
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I tend to avoid hard games like the plague. I don't have time to be frustrated. It's the number one reason why I'd never play Demon's Souls.

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#41 Twin-Blade
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As long as it's not cheap hard & the gameplay is fun enough to keep playing, then it can really improve a game. Games like SHMUPS (Ikaruga, Jamestown, Crimzon Clover, all Cave games etc), certain side-scrollers/platformers (Super Meat Boy, Dishwasher Dead Samurai/Vampire Smile etc) & plenty more, like DMC, Demon's Souls etc.

Then you get games like Ninja Gaiden 2 with off-screen exploding shuriken things, though fans will say it's your fault for not expecting them, which there is some truth to. But then that brings up my second point; it has to be enjoyable. Moving around like a maniac just in case there is an enemy off-screen isn't my idea of fun.

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#42 deactivated-57f6810aefea1
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If i spend 2 hours grinding down a boss to 1% health, then out of nowhere he pulls of a super special secret move that you didnt know existed and kills you in one hit, that isnt hard, thats just cheap. The grinding down might not have been overly difficult, just time consuming. I hate it when games do that. I generally enjoy a challenge, but these days i have less and less time to dedicate to gaming, so if its too hard, i'll just turn down the difficulty.
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#43 Beagle050
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There's too few of them these days. As much as people say about Call of Duty, the Special Ops on the hardest mode was actually extremely difficult when playing alone. I like games where you have to play them over and over again to get them right.

Bad Company 2, on the otherhand, was extremely easy. I pretty much just breezed through that campaign.

COD: Black Ops's campaign was quite difficult, but could have been even harder, imo.

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#44 yomanjdf
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fair hard and saves often is good

just like ecco from sega

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#45 Jagged3dge
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I like when the game at least gives the player some time to grow. Games that thrust the player in a hard battle and say good luck, not so much.

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#46 blueboxdoctor
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A fair challenge is always welcomed. That said, Valley of Defilement in Demon's Souls was the most unfair challenge since it took away abilities that you had in the rest of the game (mainly the ability to run/dodge through most of the maps in the valley).

However, there's the other extreme when a game's too easy like the newest MOH (beat it on hard in 4 hours without rushing through).

Games like Bioshock 1/2 and KZ 2/3 had a good challenge that was pretty balanced.

Other games like Oblivion and AC 2/brotherhood may not be the most difficult games, but are very immersive so the difficulty of the game fits very well.

Basically, just don't make a game too easy like MOH was or too short and I'll most likely be fine with the difficulty of it.

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#47 Monarch117
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Depends on what I'm feeling e.g. sometimes I'm in the mood to throw myself at cod veteran, but usually I just play games on medium. Worth saying that I do dislike easy games, borderlands has issues with doing all the quests and being a bit too high a level for areas and it makes the gameplay a bit boring.

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#48 angryfodder
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I like hard games as long as they aren't "Cheap"
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#49 azinyeme
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I hate them with every fiber of my being. I bought that ps2 remake of an nes game. Fushugi new dungeon or something. You die once and boom your def plus 1 million armor is gone and replaced with golden armor with def of 1 causing you to replay the entire fing game to get back where you were. Then there was wild nine which gave you 3 continues to beat nine worlds. You die on final boss boom all the way back to the beginning unless you quickly reset your game which is my standard now cause some games have a gameover/instant save feature. Games that require you to beat in one sitting. example turtles in time for snes. Everyone probably remembers setting lives to 7 because of pirate bebop and rocksteady. The worst offender of all would be chocobo dungeon. The final lvl has a vampire that spawns in huge groups and every attack takes you down one lvl. I went from lvl 30 to 12 and thanx to a glitch was able to beat the final boss. Then you get rewarded with a new dungeon that starts you off at lvl 1 everytime you enter and you can't keep any items found.
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#50 PurpleMan5000
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It really just depends on why the game is hard. Ninja Gaiden is great because the controls are very intuitive, and once you get good at the game, what used to be hard becomes incredibly easy. I don't like games that are hard because they gimp a skill set or throw some silly time trial into the gameplay. I like shooters that are hard because the AI is good, not because there are a ton of enemies and you have almost no health. Also, in strategy games, I like a challenge based on an intelligent AI. I don't like turning the difficulty up, only to find that I'm playing the same opponent, only now the AI has the ability to spawn armies and gets extra hit points in battles.