Which really matters most, Editors' Choice vs Readers' Choice?

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#1 gago-gago
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For discussions, bragging rights, ownage and all that forum stuff which do you think really matters the most? Awards picked from Editors or awards picked from Readers? And explain why?

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#2 naval
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truly speaking none, only my choices and choices of people I know well enough
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#3 CyberAltair5
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Most voters are idiots so Editors. They've gotten a bigger backlog then most people.
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#4 brennan7777
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Well none of them should. The only opinion that should matter is yours.

However if i have to choose between the two it would be editors choice because i bet none of the readers thoroughly played through every game like the editors did.

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#5 Bedizen
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Both are good for bragging rights, but at the end of the day the only point that matters is sales

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#6 Sonicplys
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The only thing that matter is MY choice. Readers are brainless fanboys and Editors dont know a thing about gaming. I do. and I say that GOTY should go to Batman:AA because it was the overall best game out of all them. and BTW I hate the Batman series. and BTW BTW if it was only about sales, the Wii would win in every category of every award so it not about sales.

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#7 Phoenix534
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Most voters are idiots so Editors. They've gotten a bigger backlog then most people.CyberAltair5

I have to agree with this. Half the people voting are fanboys, idiots just voting to vote, or people who have only played a fraction of the games.

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#8 Koleo
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There are a lot of editors but they do not represent what the majority of the public wanted. They matter more because they are actual experts and are less influenced by hype and are not biased.
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#9 uyiop0t
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Editor's since they take it more seriously, and many voters will sometimes just vote for "whatever."
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#10 Lone_Warrior_66
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Both matter just in different ways. As stated above, the editors vote is the official opinion of "Gamespot" as a website and the editors behind it who can been seen a "experts". The readers choice reflects the democratic opinion of every one of us Gamespot members, the most popular game get most of our votes and wins. I don't think one matters more than the other.
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#12 fun-da-mental
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I choose editors who are more experienced and open minded than fanboys.

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#13 Lostboy1224
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Frankly, I don't really care if a game I enjoy gets game of the year from the editors or the people.
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#14 MBJC
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Yes I too think both are important

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#15 Conjuration
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I'm going with readers choice.
I generally trust GS and IGN review scores, but sometimes (alot of times it seems) they see something in a product that no one else really does.
Dragon Age Origins for example. It's an unplayable pile of boredom. 9-point-something? More like a 6/10, maybe more like a 5/10.

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#16 Fenix_Darkblaze
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It comes down to personal preference, really. Editors are more unbiased to be certain, but in the end it still comes down to the personal choice of a small group of people. And readers, well.. readers tend to be raving fanboys when it comes to the voting. And then cry and complain when their selection loses.. sigh.

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#17 Ronin893
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Only your opinion matters but when it comes to buying a game you need someone who has hands on experience 1st hand and won't be a fanboy or someone who isn;t familiar with or even cares about the genre.

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#18 chicknfeet
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Truthfully, neither one matters since it is always YOUR choice that is the most important, but I'd like to think that a collection of your peers would have more of an impact when it comes to these awards since it covers a broader spectrum of opinions whereas the editors' choices are from a smaller group
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#19 Flame_Blade88
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None, only your opinion matters.
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#20 Masculus
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Sticking to the question, Editor's Choice.

If any form ofvoting were to choose the best competitor, Twilight would probably win best movie against The Godfather if you stretch the voting public farther enought. And we all know that is not true. So i respect the Editors decision more than that of the public, they know more of thematter than thepublic,even if i don't agree with them.

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#21 marcob10
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Even though I own all three consoles and buy many games a year, I haven't played half the games nominated... Editor's choice matters most cause they've played them all and can compare. Can't say they are no biased but definitely less than the average gamer.

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#22 Sephiroth2232
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Neither. Personal opinion FTW. But if I have to choose I''ll go with Reader's Choice.
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#23 neosunny
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I concur that the only thing matters is how your own self feel about the game, it has seemed that GAMESPOT EDITORS ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE IGNORANT ON GAMES, and their reviews are as UNRELIABLE as any fanboys around. Trust your taste and play the games which you really think that they are fun, I am sure there are platforms on the net which you can share experiences and discuss those game you like.

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Mine.
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#25 DZAPPER
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Definitely Editor's Choice. Although the reader's choice matters, the readers don't play every game, the editor's do play every game, and can make a more informed decision. If it was up to the readers, then Modern Warfare 2 would win everything. It would just be a repeat of the sales charts.

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#26 Bloodwyrm
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Editors play the games readers most of the time just listen to rumor or other people so i'd go with editors but in the long run if i play the game and hate/like it then my opinion matters.

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truly speaking none, only my choices and choices of people I know well enoughnaval
This.
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#28 Danzg49
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I think the Editor's choice matters most simply because I take what they say over what the self proclaimed "1337ster" cashier at my local gamestop tells me. Also my friends are mostly moronic fps fanatics and I need somewhere else to look for my role playing guidance, i.e. Kevin V the king himself. Imagine if popular vote was the most highly regarded critique for gaming, you'd see hidden gems being scored far less than what they deserve and a huge surplus in demand for mainstream mediocre and minorly innovative games.
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#29 cloudmip
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Reader's Choice in my opinion because its OUR opinions. THE READERS.

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#30 jcopp72
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one would think Readers choice, but people vote on dum stuff so i would say Editors choice.
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In a perfect world I would like to trust both of them... But since Editors work for sites in which bad reviews can get them cut from exclusive interviews, demos, videos and scenes thereby hurting themselves...so they are more likely to pander to devs than be honest... And since I can't expect gamers to be fair because there are fanboys that actually waste portions of their lives reviewing games they've never played badly because it's not on their system of choice or it's in a genre they dont like. I can only trust myself.
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#32 S0lidSnake
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I trust smerlus' opinion on games, especially Uncharted 2.....

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#33 dchase2k8
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There's a lot of politics in "editors choice" e.g. publishers with deep pockets that control the rights to big blockbuster titles...and threaten editors with removing their ad campaigns if they don't guarantee the publisher a certain score.

I believe you have to ignore the scores and find good analysis on the game from a plethora of different resources; then formulate your own opinion.

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#34 btaylor2404
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Readers. There are more of us. While I love reading the Editor's Choice Awards (and think they do a great job), and look forward to them yearly, if I were a game developer I'd care more about what X # of users thought rather than a handful of Editor's.
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I trust smerlus' opinion on games, especially Uncharted 2.....

S0lidSnake

don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.

Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.

There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.

So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.

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#36 calvinsora
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I think the EC is more reliable, since they have played ALL the good games out there for every year. But I only mean that in comparison to the RC. My opinion is what matters most to me. Of course, it helps that I agree with GS in 90% of their choices and scores.

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#37 S0lidSnake
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[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

I trust smerlus' opinion on games, especially Uncharted 2.....

smerlus

don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.

Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.

There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.

So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.

Facetious is my middle name!

Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.

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#38 190586385885857957282413308806
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[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

I trust smerlus' opinion on games, especially Uncharted 2.....

don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.

Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.

There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.

So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.

Facetious is my middle name!

Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.

I would too, generally, but then we run into cirular logic where the people that do have the largest access to every system and every game are the professional reviewers...but these are the same people that preview games a mere 2 weeks before they come out, say how great the game is only to dump on the when the game is released or that will claim one game has glitches and mark it down while being caught up in the moment of another game and ignore glitches with that one. Let's not forget review embargos that no doubt net a site a lot of hits when they are the first to review a highprofile game and were able to release the review early only because they said good things about it... in otherwords they're both equally evil
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#39 CarnageHeart
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I doubt anyone plays a game, forms an opinion, and then flips their opinion when someone else tells them different.

People watch GOTYs to see if their favorite game won, not so they can learn which game they enjoyed the most.

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#40 Blissmemberment
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Editors' Choice because I can predict what will win in each category by how much hype it got.
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[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="smerlus"] don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.

Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.

There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.

So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.

smerlus

Facetious is my middle name!

Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.

I would too, generally, but then we run into cirular logic where the people that do have the largest access to every system and every game are the professional reviewers...

That's not always true. Most of these websites have writers who dont play every game that comes out. For instance, Vinny over at Giantbomb still hasn't played Uncharted 2. We know Kevin V has played Mass Effect 2 AND Dragon Age, but how many other GS writers have played them both? We simply dont know. The perfect example of this would be U2, which got a 9.5 from one of their writers, yet lost the overall GOTY to Demon Souls. I think their review is just one person's opinion, while their overall GOTY takes into account the opinions of everyone's who has played them.

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[QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="smerlus"] don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.

Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.

There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.

So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.

Facetious is my middle name!

Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.

I would too, generally, but then we run into cirular logic where the people that do have the largest access to every system and every game are the professional reviewers...but these are the same people that preview games a mere 2 weeks before they come out, say how great the game is only to dump on the when the game is released or that will claim one game has glitches and mark it down while being caught up in the moment of another game and ignore glitches with that one. Let's not forget review embargos that no doubt net a site a lot of hits when they are the first to review a highprofile game and were able to release the review early only because they said good things about it... in otherwords they're both equally evil

Your reasoning here is the main reason I chose Readers. Yes Editors play more games than I do, and no I don't have a DS so I'm missing every current console or handheld. But I'm not in a hurry. If I love Uncharted 2, it's because I finished it, enjoyed it, and took my time with it. If I give another AAA title a lower score, it's because somewhere in the course of the game it had it's problems (repetitiveness, lack of fun, whatever). So I'll trust thousands of my fellow gamers first. Today nearly all the games I buy I get with input from users or friends here at GS. And I tend not to hate/strongly dislike anything I buy anymore.
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#43 Cerberus_Legion
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My choice. It's the only plausible answer for me. ;) Likewise, for each of you, it should be, "Your choice."

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#44 190586385885857957282413308806
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[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

That's not always true. Most of these websites have writers who dont play every game that comes out. For instance, Vinny over at Giantbomb still hasn't played Uncharted 2. We know Kevin V has played Mass Effect 2 AND Dragon Age, but how many other GS writers have played them both? We simply dont know. The perfect example of this would be U2, which got a 9.5 from one of their writers, yet lost the overall GOTY to Demon Souls. I think their review is just one person's opinion, while their overall GOTY takes into account the opinions of everyone's who has played them.

You've got a point. I'm just too lazy to look at a name to see who wrote what so I lump them all under the same websites. It would have nice to seen a GS rundown of games like Game Informer did. In that one you could see which writer liked what and while U2 didn't sweep all of the lists, you can see that it was pretty much in the majority of people's top 3, therefore it was the winner. Ever since last year when MGS 4 won best technical graphics when it didn't have the best technical graphics, and seeing as this year there were some glaring nomination omissions and some strange wins. It's hard for me not to imagine that some of the winners weren't just some games picked at random.
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#45 Nerkcon
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In truth only your opinion should matter. But out of the two it's reader's choice. Editor's can be fanboys too and they generally suck up to large fanbases (notice how super popular games never get bad scores? And when they do like Zelda's 8.8, there is a up roar and they lose many people? Yeah, no one s every going to DARE give a popular game a lower than an AAA score if they have a Zelda size fanbase). And what is this crud thing that all Editor's have played every single game they've nominate? They play the most games very briefly, most likely only beating it once on easy difficulty, so they can swiftly review it and move on. If anyone of thinks the 'professional reviewers' never fall for hype should read the TES4 Oblivion review. "Actual role playing unlike most RPGs!" "Adventuring, stealth, and fighting, all better than games that specialize in those genres!" ^^^^ If you believe these two you fail CRPGs and have likely never played a game in the genre of adventuring/stealth/fighting.
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#46 yx2vy
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Well, Editors choice is from un-opinionated people, who do this professionally, so they'll want to be fair and thorough. However, Readers will often focus on the good points of a game they like, while the bad fades to grey, and vice versa. But, then again, sometimes editors give games ratings that NOBODY will agree with. In the end, it comes down to what you like. Don't worry about other people.

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#47 Pvt_r3d
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None of them.
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#48 Sacif
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I prefer personal choice. I have played many games that I enjoyed that were ranked poorly by readers (don't really understand this term, but I gather its speaking to individual reviews rather than media reviews) and editors.

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#49 RK-Mara
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My opinion is the most important.