For discussions, bragging rights, ownage and all that forum stuff which do you think really matters the most? Awards picked from Editors or awards picked from Readers? And explain why?
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Well none of them should. The only opinion that should matter is yours.
However if i have to choose between the two it would be editors choice because i bet none of the readers thoroughly played through every game like the editors did.
The only thing that matter is MY choice. Readers are brainless fanboys and Editors dont know a thing about gaming. I do. and I say that GOTY should go to Batman:AA because it was the overall best game out of all them. and BTW I hate the Batman series. and BTW BTW if it was only about sales, the Wii would win in every category of every award so it not about sales.
Most voters are idiots so Editors. They've gotten a bigger backlog then most people.CyberAltair5
I have to agree with this. Half the people voting are fanboys, idiots just voting to vote, or people who have only played a fraction of the games.
I'm going with readers choice.
I generally trust GS and IGN review scores, but sometimes (alot of times it seems) they see something in a product that no one else really does.
Dragon Age Origins for example. It's an unplayable pile of boredom. 9-point-something? More like a 6/10, maybe more like a 5/10.
It comes down to personal preference, really. Editors are more unbiased to be certain, but in the end it still comes down to the personal choice of a small group of people. And readers, well.. readers tend to be raving fanboys when it comes to the voting. And then cry and complain when their selection loses.. sigh.
Sticking to the question, Editor's Choice.
If any form ofvoting were to choose the best competitor, Twilight would probably win best movie against The Godfather if you stretch the voting public farther enought. And we all know that is not true. So i respect the Editors decision more than that of the public, they know more of thematter than thepublic,even if i don't agree with them.
I concur that the only thing matters is how your own self feel about the game, it has seemed that GAMESPOT EDITORS ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE IGNORANT ON GAMES, and their reviews are as UNRELIABLE as any fanboys around. Trust your taste and play the games which you really think that they are fun, I am sure there are platforms on the net which you can share experiences and discuss those game you like.
Definitely Editor's Choice. Although the reader's choice matters, the readers don't play every game, the editor's do play every game, and can make a more informed decision. If it was up to the readers, then Modern Warfare 2 would win everything. It would just be a repeat of the sales charts.
There's a lot of politics in "editors choice" e.g. publishers with deep pockets that control the rights to big blockbuster titles...and threaten editors with removing their ad campaigns if they don't guarantee the publisher a certain score.
I believe you have to ignore the scores and find good analysis on the game from a plethora of different resources; then formulate your own opinion.
don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.I trust smerlus' opinion on games, especially Uncharted 2.....
S0lidSnake
Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.
There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.
So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.
I think the EC is more reliable, since they have played ALL the good games out there for every year. But I only mean that in comparison to the RC. My opinion is what matters most to me. Of course, it helps that I agree with GS in 90% of their choices and scores.
don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]
I trust smerlus' opinion on games, especially Uncharted 2.....
smerlus
Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.
There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.
So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.
Facetious is my middle name!
Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.
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[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]
I trust smerlus' opinion on games, especially Uncharted 2.....
don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.
There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.
So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.
Facetious is my middle name!
Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.
I would too, generally, but then we run into cirular logic where the people that do have the largest access to every system and every game are the professional reviewers...but these are the same people that preview games a mere 2 weeks before they come out, say how great the game is only to dump on the when the game is released or that will claim one game has glitches and mark it down while being caught up in the moment of another game and ignore glitches with that one. Let's not forget review embargos that no doubt net a site a lot of hits when they are the first to review a highprofile game and were able to release the review early only because they said good things about it... in otherwords they're both equally evilI doubt anyone plays a game, forms an opinion, and then flips their opinion when someone else tells them different.
People watch GOTYs to see if their favorite game won, not so they can learn which game they enjoyed the most.
[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"][QUOTE="smerlus"] don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.
Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.
There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.
So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.
smerlus
Facetious is my middle name!
Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.
I would too, generally, but then we run into cirular logic where the people that do have the largest access to every system and every game are the professional reviewers...That's not always true. Most of these websites have writers who dont play every game that comes out. For instance, Vinny over at Giantbomb still hasn't played Uncharted 2. We know Kevin V has played Mass Effect 2 AND Dragon Age, but how many other GS writers have played them both? We simply dont know. The perfect example of this would be U2, which got a 9.5 from one of their writers, yet lost the overall GOTY to Demon Souls. I think their review is just one person's opinion, while their overall GOTY takes into account the opinions of everyone's who has played them.
[QUOTE="smerlus"] don't be facetious...you were upset that I rated the game .5 of a point lower than you.
Which reminds me of another reason I don't trust reader reviews: The lack of sample data.
There are people that only own one system and can only afford a couple games so to them a game like Uncharted 2 may have great character interaction but then someone who's played Dragon's Age Origins on PC and Mass Effect 2 on 360 might not agree.
So generally the wider variety of games one is able to experience gives them a broader understanding of what has or hasn't been done better before.
Facetious is my middle name!
Though I agree with your "sample data" comment.
I would too, generally, but then we run into cirular logic where the people that do have the largest access to every system and every game are the professional reviewers...but these are the same people that preview games a mere 2 weeks before they come out, say how great the game is only to dump on the when the game is released or that will claim one game has glitches and mark it down while being caught up in the moment of another game and ignore glitches with that one. Let's not forget review embargos that no doubt net a site a lot of hits when they are the first to review a highprofile game and were able to release the review early only because they said good things about it... in otherwords they're both equally evil Your reasoning here is the main reason I chose Readers. Yes Editors play more games than I do, and no I don't have a DS so I'm missing every current console or handheld. But I'm not in a hurry. If I love Uncharted 2, it's because I finished it, enjoyed it, and took my time with it. If I give another AAA title a lower score, it's because somewhere in the course of the game it had it's problems (repetitiveness, lack of fun, whatever). So I'll trust thousands of my fellow gamers first. Today nearly all the games I buy I get with input from users or friends here at GS. And I tend not to hate/strongly dislike anything I buy anymore.My choice. It's the only plausible answer for me. ;) Likewise, for each of you, it should be, "Your choice."
That's not always true. Most of these websites have writers who dont play every game that comes out. For instance, Vinny over at Giantbomb still hasn't played Uncharted 2. We know Kevin V has played Mass Effect 2 AND Dragon Age, but how many other GS writers have played them both? We simply dont know. The perfect example of this would be U2, which got a 9.5 from one of their writers, yet lost the overall GOTY to Demon Souls. I think their review is just one person's opinion, while their overall GOTY takes into account the opinions of everyone's who has played them.
You've got a point. I'm just too lazy to look at a name to see who wrote what so I lump them all under the same websites. It would have nice to seen a GS rundown of games like Game Informer did. In that one you could see which writer liked what and while U2 didn't sweep all of the lists, you can see that it was pretty much in the majority of people's top 3, therefore it was the winner. Ever since last year when MGS 4 won best technical graphics when it didn't have the best technical graphics, and seeing as this year there were some glaring nomination omissions and some strange wins. It's hard for me not to imagine that some of the winners weren't just some games picked at random.Well, Editors choice is from un-opinionated people, who do this professionally, so they'll want to be fair and thorough. However, Readers will often focus on the good points of a game they like, while the bad fades to grey, and vice versa. But, then again, sometimes editors give games ratings that NOBODY will agree with. In the end, it comes down to what you like. Don't worry about other people.
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