Why PC gaming is important

[QUOTE="grim0187"]200 bucks for a one-time buy for your console. While a PC requires CONSTANT upgrading to play games. Every new game that comes out, you need space or a new graphics card or a sound card or this or that or blah blah blah, on and on. You could get a PC for just as much as a console, but in order to actually play Crisis or Fallout 3 or anything that has to run fast and good, you need to upgrade. True, a basic PC could run those games, but it would be choppy and slow. With a console, you dont have to worry about that. EVERY game will run perfectly.UpInFlames

No, those arnt facts. There your presumptions. I remember out back in the 90's that were 600 bucks. The Neo Geo had games that were 200 bucks apiece.

Depends on what PC you buy. I've seen computers that run 1500+ and I've seen them fun for about as cheap as 500. Thats STILL more expensive then alot of consoles.

No, most people have the money to buy a PC or a laptop and thats it. There is a reason most people buy consoles. We dont wanna have to upgrade with every new game we buy. If you bought a computer when Diablo 2 launched and wanted to play Diablo 3 on it, you would have to upgrade. You had to upgrade for Crysis or Unreal Tournament or any of the other games that are also on consoles. THIS is a fact my friend. I happen to work in a computer repair shop and I build many a custom PC. I deff. know the ins and outs of PC gaming. You might wanna think a little before you type something stupid.

[QUOTE="grim0187"]Left 4 Dead and Dragon Age Origins were made for PC and Console at the same time. There was no port. Just different versions.UpInFlames

Source???

[QUOTE="grim0187"]

Your comment about constant upgrading is false. The last PC I had lasted me 4 years (it was a mid-range model), and the only upgrades I made to it were the graphics card and adding some extra RAM. I had to replace a DVD drive that died as well. It played most of the modern games just fine. So this idea that you 'must' upgrade for each new game is a myth. So to is the claim that you must spend $2000 to get a decent gaming PC. Spend half that and you have a rig that will last you a good few years, with a couple of upgrades later on.

[QUOTE="grim0187"]

You could get a PC for just as much as a console, but in order to actually play Crisis or Fallout 3 or anything that has to run fast and good, you need to upgrade. True, a basic PC could run those games, but it would be choppy and slow. With a console, you dont have to worry about that. EVERY game will run perfectly.

RobertBowen

Again, saying that all console titles run 'perfectly' on their respecitve platforms is false. I played Fallout 3 on the X360 recently, and there were obvious frame rate drops when the action became intense on screen, and I experienced an issue with ground textures sometimes lagging before updating properly. There are similar issues with other console titles, and that is why patches are released to 'update' such games. So no, EVERY game will not run 'perfectly'.

Its all childhood, but console gaming is taking HUGE leaps and bounds, while PC gaming is pretty much staying the same.

grim0187

I think you mean 'nostalgia' rather than childhood, because not everyone played those older titles as a kid. For example, I didn't get into PC gaming until I was aged 16 and attending college in the mid 1980s, and prior to that I'd only played on arcade machines. Never owned a console until a few years ago.

But yes, consoles are progressing in 'leaps and bounds', but what you have failed to mention is that some of this progression is simply bringing them up to the same standards as the PC platform, such as multiplayer gaming, and the RTS and MMO genres. These have been around for 15+ years on the PC platform, but are relatively recent additions to the console gaming space. That is why the PC seems to be at a 'standstill' by comparison, because in many ways it has already 'peaked' in terms of the genres and technical features it supports.

That is not to say there are no further innovations around the corner, because there are, and that is true of all platforms, imo.

I wouldnt wanna spend 1000 dollars on a PC gaming rig that I would still have to upgrade later on.

The framerate issue hasnt happened to me. All the games I have ever played on a console run how they are designed to run. You dont have a menu where you have to turn the graphics down for it to run faster or vice versa.

PC gaming had its era, but its all about the consoles now!

[QUOTE="grim0187"]

[QUOTE="UpInFlames"] 200 bucks? Yeah, 4 years in. I didn't say you could get a gaming PC for just as much as a console (actually, you could for the price of a launch PS3), I said that consoles are more expensive than they ever were while PC's are much cheaper than they once were. These are facts. As for your "constant upgrading for every new game" argument, you obviously lack even the basic understanding of PC gaming and are clinging onto myths you've read on gaming forums spouted by gamers who probably never even touched a PC game.dvader654

No, those arnt facts. There your presumptions. I remember out back in the 90's that were 600 bucks. The Neo Geo had games that were 200 bucks apiece.

Depends on what PC you buy. I've seen computers that run 1500+ and I've seen them fun for about as cheap as 500. Thats STILL more expensive then alot of consoles.

No, most people have the money to buy a PC or a laptop and thats it. There is a reason most people buy consoles. We dont wanna have to upgrade with every new game we buy. If you bought a computer when Diablo 2 launched and wanted to play Diablo 3 on it, you would have to upgrade. You had to upgrade for Crysis or Unreal Tournament or any of the other games that are also on consoles. THIS is a fact my friend. I happen to work in a computer repair shop and I build many a custom PC. I deff. know the ins and outs of PC gaming. You might wanna think a little before you type something stupid.

Most consoles have a lifespan of about 6 years. This generation is supposed to have an even longer life span.

With a PC, you build your rig around the games you wanna play. They dont make games for your PC, you make your PC for the games. Get it?

Its POSSIBLE to have a PC gaming system that will last 4 or even 5 years without upgrading, but it would be a VERY poor experience.

To have optimal gaming you need to upgrade, and different games have different specs and requirments. So while that new graphics card might be anough to play one game, a new game comes out next week that might requirer and even more powerful card or more RAM that you dont have.

[QUOTE="grim0187"]An age old saying: When you game on a PC, your money is spent on your system. When you game on a console, your money is spent on games.UpInFlames

I don't think it does. When you buy a console, you buy it once(unless it's a 360) and outside of accessories how much money do you put into it? If you want a good PC that runs games the way they should be you need to put more money into your PC. Even it's just a small amount of money you put into a PC, it still adds up over time eventually surpassing what you'd pay for a console.

[QUOTE="BenTheJamin"]

I'm not "manufacturing fallacies" to prove my point. I am simply, as I said in my OP, stating my feelings on why I believe the PC is very important, and I believe that the PC created most of the genres and game concepts we see in gaming today. Such as FPS, RPG, RTS, sims, etc. I mean the PC pioneered online multiplayer gaming years before consoles even thought about it, and the model of patching and DLCs is straight from the PC. I am not trying to start a fanboy war hear, I am just trying to spur discussion.

Grammaton-Cleric

It doesn't matter what you personally believe because the fact remains that PC gaming did not facilitate "most" of the gaming conventions we have today. Like I stated previously, the percentage is relatively even, with both sides (and the arcade market) contributing heavily to the medium as it exists today.

And yes, you are a fanboy, as evidenced by your bias and your insistence on perpetuating propaganda rather than dealing in facts. I implicitly stated that PC gaming was and will always be viable and important but all you could do in response to my even-handed post was drone on about why the PC is better. Your entire post is a thinly-veiled fanboy manifesto replete with the same inaccuracies and hyperbole you claim the console zealots employ.

PC gaming isn't superior, it's merely different. If you can't admit and respect that then there is no discussion to be had.