Poll Will you boycott The Last of us two because of its political agenda? (46 votes)
What are your thoughts?
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What are your thoughts?
@RSM-HQ: Give Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order at least a try at some point and don't worry about learning the lore of the Star Wars itself. The game pretty much does it's own thing.
No promises, dabbled with a friends copy, and it was ok. However will take going back under consideration (´・ω・`)
op you did a horrible job of explaining your thread didn't even say what it was about, and just expected people to know what you are talking about!
I have a problem with the hypocrisy of Sony. The Last of Us part 2 Ellie being a lesbian has potential of sexual relationship being shown on screen with actual nudity. while if a Japanese developer wants to localize a slightly sexualized anime game examples being partial nudity, shows a panty, or has a offensive outfit such a swimsuit, bunny girl, sailor uniform etc they will be forced to removed, censor, or the game can be out right banned. lgbt equal progresive while anime equal offensive and must be censored.
atlus has censored persona 5 R trans dialog for western release. Catherine full body had trans dialog removed, Tokyo Mirage Season was censored for both western releases and the japanese switch version was also censored. japanese switch version sold worse than the wii-u version.
countless other Japanese games have been censored and there a 50/50 chance if the ps4 version is censored the pc version is censored as well.
I'd just want faithful localization no dialog changes or cut content we don't want to become like china where everything is censored can't even show time travel or supernatural things like skeletons.
sony subsidiary funimation is notorious for changing dialog and they sometimes use censored versions not the uncut versions. they fired vic mignogna the voice of edward edward: fullmetal alchemist, broly: dragon ball for alleged inappropriate convention behavior zero video evidence. a kiss that he admitted to, and a jellybean joke. than they emailed conversions to get him canceled, called him a pedo and said he assaulted 100 of people over the years at conversions. he is contently suing Funi, monica rial/ron toye, and Jaime marchi for defamation and tortious interference. currently in appeals court i hope he gets justice. he has a gofundme with over $275,000 and growing to pay for his court cost.
ron toye has also gotten divorced twice for beating his wife's and he was recorded threatening to kill one of his kids. the court recorts are public.
Christopherchr sabat voice of vitgeta also a funi director agilely had kid goku/kid gohan voice actress stephanie nadolny fired because she ignored his advances sabat said it's because shes a alcoholic and impossible to work with. they're more rumor of sabat giving out rolls for sexual favors casting couch etc. if you want to hear leaked dialog of Christopherchr sabat voicing dragon ball characters in a racist, gay orgy, that also has child r*p* look up Sacred Ointment. there is also dialog with the voice of goku calling his son gohan a f*g, and bulma having sex with her son gohan plus more. i'm not offened or anything kinda think it's funny but it make them look like massive hypocrite.
you also have a funi voice actor who had sex with a minor and than fled to Nevada and married his victim with consent of her parents. funimation trying to act progressive but seems to be a horrible place to work.
Hollywood going through a phase where they're rebooting old franchise with all female cast and when they fail the fans get attack by the media. the reason they fail btw is because they push diversity but the writing is bad.
Still have no idea what their political agenda is, and as the OP hasn't bothered to explain I'll assume he doesn't like lesbians in videogames?
Still have no idea what their political agenda is, and as the OP hasn't bothered to explain I'll assume he doesn't like lesbians in videogames?
Claimed to not be against sexual diversity when he responded to me, so who knows. As you stated the thread creator is being pretty sly on getting back to the 'why'
Think the person in question @duncancameron23 probably just made the thread on a whim, with a trending title- 'political agenda'; and didn't think of short-term or long-term debate.
I've noticed slapping certain titles to threads is just for bait, over focus.
Still have no idea what their political agenda is, and as the OP hasn't bothered to explain I'll assume he doesn't like lesbians in videogames?
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If you enjoyed the first one then you will buy 2. Politics and video games shouldn't be in the same sentence in my opinion.
Opening the trailer with a kiss was so cringey and makes their social justice obvious. I don't even remember the last time any film or game was revealed with a straight kiss, and I don't know why anyone would do that. I will still play it, though.
Resident Evil is better.
@ezekiel43: You don't know why anyone would do that? Trailers are marketing tools, they used something that would trigger some people turning them into dissemination vehicles.
@locus-solus:
"Hollywood going through a phase where they're rebooting old franchise with all female cast and when they fail the fans get attack by the media. the reason they fail btw is because they push diversity but the writing is bad."
- You lost me at this part. I agreed with everything else you said but this. People are too sensitive to politics these days that they turn anything they don't like into something political.
As a female gamer I am happy to see reasonable changes in video games, not just in story-line, but also character visuals, including how female characters are presented, what clothing they wear, what special costumes are released for them etc.. It's important not to be too overly excitable about everything in a game though. I will be playing it because I loved the first one. I will have to just see for myself if there is too much political propaganda or not. Even if there is it might have to be to an extremely insulting level for it to ruin my game play, if the game play is really good. I may ignore the pandering. People like to express their views in art a lot but I'm not sure if video games are the best venue to do it since it can insult a lot of the players. It will remain to be seen I suppose. It shouldn't just be assumed that only men might be insulted or uncomfortable with overly feminized propaganda, millions of women are also turned off if they fly over the rainbow with it and get too obsessive.
@nepu7supastar7: I agree and disagree with your post about "all female casts." In some cases overt pandering can cause issues where it ruins certain titles, however it doesn't always. In FF10-2 which was all female the game was extremely popular and sold millions of copies. I have to say I wasn't the hugest fan of no male leads, or wearing dresses for combat lol but it was still fun. Now look at FF 15 will an all male lead. It's probably for me the worst FF ever made. All emo style males pushing old cars around and fishing. Meh lolol. Maybe the issues wasn't the all male cast as much as they were too similar to each other and the game was quite boring.
@duncancameron23:
With the recent Last of Us 2 leak I’m wondering what the poll result would be if it was re-run now.
Definitely! I'm playing games to get away from the political agenda pushed by these extremist trying to indoctrinate the country. Now you've got some jerk trying to push his personal views on gamers.
Would you support a huge Trump backer pushing the Trump agenda in your games?
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