Would you put the Xbox's quality over the PS2's quantity?

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

wiicube64

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

Shenmue_Jehuty

[QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

MicrosoftVP_Ted

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

wiicube64

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

wiicube64

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

• Arx Fatalis
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
• Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
• The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Justice League: Heroes
• Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
• X-Men Legends
• X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.MicrosoftVP_Ted

Not really, no.

While the PS2 has plenty of crap on offer, the good stuff will still outnumber those on XBox simply because of larger quantities overall.

And even though i haven't checked, i'm sure the XBox has its fair share of crap too. Probably with a similar ratio to PS2 just involving smaller numbers.

I don't understand why such a fuss is made over exclusives, i don't miss what i can't have. And those which are exclusive usually have something similar on the other system anyway.

Where the XBox beat the PS2 was in the graphics department.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

MicrosoftVP_Ted

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you.

Shenmue_Jehuty

Isn't it sad that we have to screen like every new member to the Legacy Platforms forum now? 48 really screwed things up here.

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"]I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.BarbaricAvatar

Not really, no.

While the PS2 has plenty of crap on offer, the good stuff will still outnumber those on XBox simply because of larger quantities overall.

And even though i haven't checked, i'm sure the XBox has its fair share of crap too. Probably with a similar ratio to PS2 just involving smaller numbers.

I don't understand why such a fuss is made over exclusives, i don't miss what i can't have. And those which are exclusive usually have something similar on the other system anyway.

Where the XBox beat the PS2 was in the graphics department.

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

Shenmue_Jehuty

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you.

Emerald_Warrior

Isn't it sad that we have to screen like every new member to the Legacy Platforms forum now? 48 really screwed things up here.

It really is :/. I remember when Legacy Forum was relatively troll free and we all just discussed our love of gaming without idiots making ridiculous claims, arguments and the like. I wish GS could do more to just find out who Another48Hours is and ban his IP so we can all carry on again. He's probably some pathetic loser who rides his bike to the library for the soul purpose of creating troll accounts here in order to make himself feel less like a pathetic loser . . .

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] With the PS2 having slightly over 1000 or so more games, I do not see how you get 10 to one when most of the PS2 games that aren't bad when you keep digging through the library are usually shared with something else. Unless I am reading the game lists wrong. I will say the PS2 did become quite a seller, the First Playstation proved to be quite beneficial, in that as well as no real competition and DVD at launch,MicrosoftVP_Ted

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

Have your fun while it lasts, I just reported you :)

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

Shenmue_Jehuty

Have your fun while it lasts, I just reported you :)

What are you talking about bro? Ps2 had both quality and quantity... Its for a reason why PS2 still sells as we speak ...AzatiS

You're assuming that other people think Xbox has the "quality". I don't buy that assumption whatsoever. For me, PS2 is better both quantity and quality-wise.

Also, you don't get to decide what was relevant, and the JRPGs and action-adventure titles on the PS2 were not all similar, certainly not any more similar than any other genre.

You're assuming that other people think Xbox has the "quality". I don't buy that assumption whatsoever. For me, PS2 is better both quantity and quality-wise.

GreySeal9

[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I wouldn't put the XBOX's quality over PS2's quantity because it doesn't outweigh the quantity/quality of the PS2's library. Not to say the XBOX's library is poor, it's pretty great. Just depends on the genres you're looking for. But for the best experience, just get both.MicrosoftVP_Ted

Personally, I think Xbox is the worst of the three by far. Don't get me wrong, it has good games, I just prefer the libraries of either the PS2 or Gamecube.

I should point out, however, that Xbox introduced one of my favorite game series: Ninja Gaiden. (It dubuted on the NES technically, but the Xbox rebooted it with a completely new style) I never played the Xbox version though. I only played Sigma on PS3. Mainly because I never had an Xbox. I now have a 360, and I have played some Xbox games with it's BC. But last Gen Xbox was the only way to play Ninja Gaiden. I never realised just how awesome that game is until this gen, lol.

I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.MicrosoftVP_Ted

And for your information, action-adventures and RPG's on the PS2 were extremely diverse and two of the best-selling genres at the time, so they were very "relevant" at the time.

Don't get me wrong. I loved the Xbox back then, and it was probably my second most used console of that generation, after the PS2. But the thing is that I most often used the Xbox as a media player, while most of the games I played on it were often just better-looking multi-plats also available on the PS2.

I might, because XBox did have some very good games.

I like my Xbox over the PS2. Mostly, I just like the controller better to be honest and that is a huge thing for me. Sound is about the same and graphics are better on Xbox but I don't really care about graphics aside from how they affect gameplay. The controller is a much bigger difference. We can argue all day about more games, percentage of good games vs. bad and all that but as far as I'm concerned, either of these systems has enough great games to last me a decade so I'm not too worried about it.

I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.MicrosoftVP_Ted

f*** no, I would never do that. I bought an xbox, loved it, supported it, bought xbox live, bought every AAA title, even some AA titles. 

Can't top the ps2 library though, can't even touch it. Sony had soo many exclusive 1st party games and 3rd party games to ignore.

ps2 had too much high ranking quality games and obviously quantity of games. ps2 was a beast. 

it's not a quality vs. quanity equation, as ps2 had both titles.

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"]I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.CaptainGamespot

f*** no, I would never do that. I bought an xbox, loved it, supported it, bought xbox live, bought every AAA title, even some AA titles. 

Can't top the ps2 library though, can't even touch it. Sony had soo many exclusive 1st party games and 3rd party games to ignore.

ps2 had too much high ranking quality games and obviously quantity of games. ps2 was a beast. 

it's not a quality vs. quanity equation, as ps2 had both titles.

[QUOTE="wiicube64"][QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.Emerald_Warrior

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

• Arx Fatalis
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
• Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
• The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Justice League: Heroes
• Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
• X-Men Legends
• X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="wiicube64"] There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.Kaszilla

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

• Arx Fatalis
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
• Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
• The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Justice League: Heroes
• Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
• X-Men Legends
• X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

Oh yeah, some of the best games on the XBox.

The reason I purchased my XBox was Morrowind, by far. The game was absolutely stunning in all areas when it came out. And to a lesser degree, Halo also made me purchase it because it was a social event amongst me and my friends.

All the exlusives after that (such as MechAssault) I discovered.

Anything the Xbox had over the PS2 was better on the PC anyway. Halo 1, 2, Half-Life 2, most of them were more fun on the PC. The PS2 had more actual exclusives like Gran Turismo 3/4, Ratchet and Clank, the Katamari games, Ico, and many others. It's one of the few consoles that are worth owning for a serious PC gamer like me.CPX7700

the only point I was proving is that the Xbox had more over all others except the PS2, but was the only one with less games rated under 5.0.MicrosoftVP_Ted

I'm just saying that the point you're trying to prove won't really make anybody re-think their opinions. Because it's obvious the PS2 is gonna have more games under 5.0 when it has much more games. The chances for below average games are higher the more games you have in a library. And still, that means little to nothing as long as the good games are good.

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] the only point I was proving is that the Xbox had more over all others except the PS2, but was the only one with less games rated under 5.0.Dudersaper

I'm just saying that the point you're trying to prove won't really make anybody re-think their opinions. Because it's obvious the PS2 is gonna have more games under 5.0 when it has much more games. The chances for below average games are higher the more games you have in a library. And still, that means little to nothing as long as the good games are good.

[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] the only point I was proving is that the Xbox had more over all others except the PS2, but was the only one with less games rated under 5.0.MicrosoftVP_Ted

I'm just saying that the point you're trying to prove won't really make anybody re-think their opinions. Because it's obvious the PS2 is gonna have more games under 5.0 when it has much more games. The chances for below average games are higher the more games you have in a library. And still, that means little to nothing as long as the good games are good.

Ps2 just had amazing games. Lots of amazing games. 

I wouldn't, but I had a damn fine time LANing my Xbox's throughout my house to play HALO/Splinter Cell etc. I still own Steel Battalion. Dug every single exclusive I could get my hands on.

That said, I can't say those experiences could top the PS2's quantity or quality I got last gen. Even Sony's 1st party was amazing last gen from God of War to ICO to Jak to Sly Cooper to Champions of Norrath 1/2 to ATV offroad to Ratchet to Gran Turismo 3/4 to Primal to Mr. Mosquito to Ape Escape to Dark Cloud 1/2 to Rogue Galaxy to Shadow of the Colossus to Tourist Trophy to SOCOM to War of the Monsters to Singstar to MLB the Show to Twisted Metal Black and many more I'm just forgetting...it was a fantastic ride.

I'm being unfair to the 3rd party exclusives as well. From Tekken to DMC to Onimusha to Ace Combat to Final Fantasy to Castlevania : Lament of Innocence to Metal Gear Solid 3 to Okami to Maximo...it was amazing.

[QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

MicrosoftVP_Ted

Your system war tactics can't fool me! :cool:

[QUOTE="wiicube64"][QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.Emerald_Warrior

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

• Arx Fatalis
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
• Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
• The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Justice League: Heroes
• Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
• X-Men Legends
• X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

also gotta say, ps2 is not all about quantity...there was a lot of quality there.

All I'm gonna say is PS2 >>> Xbox.

[QUOTE="wiicube64"][QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.Emerald_Warrior

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

• Arx Fatalis
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
• Champions of Norrath
• Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
• The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Justice League: Heroes
• Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
• X-Men Legends
• X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

PS2 was the king of the Action RPG genre:

• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance I & II
• Chaos Legion
• Dark Cloud 1 & 2
• Drakengard 1 & 2
• Dual Hearts
• Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
• .Hack series
• Justice League: Heroes
• Final Fantasy XII
• Kingdom Hearts I & II
• Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
• King's Field IV
• Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
• Odin Sphere
• Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
• Phantasy Star Universe
• Radiata Stories
• Rogue Galaxy
• Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 1 & 2
• Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
• Steambot Chronicles
• Summoner
• Tales of Destiny 1 & 2
• Tales of Symphonia
• Tales of Rebirth
• Tales of Legendia
• Tales of the Abyss
• X-Men Legends I & II
• Ys I & II: Eternal Story
• Ys III: Wanderers from Ys
• Ys IV: Mask of the Sun
• Ys V: Kefin, The Lost City of Sand
• Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim

So yeah, I'd say the PS2 was superior to the Xbox when it came to nearly all sub-genres of RPG, whether action RPG, turn-based RPG, tactical RPG, etc. The only type of RPG the Xbox may have had an upper hand in was the "Computer RPG" (i.e. "Western RPG" as it known today).

^ Touche.

But all those games put together still don't come close to Morrowind.

^ Touche.

But all those games put together still don't come close to Morrowind.

Emerald_Warrior

Odin Sphere alone >>> Morrowind. And you know what I think about Morrowind. :P