Do u have a game that it seems only you like and the majority of people dislike?
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Star Ocean 3: Till the End of Time.
I thought it was a pretty good game, though many people I see tend to hate the game.
Well, I pretty much only buy critically acclaimed games, so no. On what basis would I buy a game if everyone says it's bad?SpaceMooseSo you wouldn't buy a game that you like the look of just becuase other people say it's bad? That kinda sucks. Personally I liked Heavenly Sword a lot more than most of it's reviews. I enjoyed Mirrors Edge and Price Of Persia too
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness
Everyone calls it "bad," "terrible," "atrocious," etc. Not only do I love the game, most people who make these claims are completely unfounded. Granted, the game has its flaws, but it isn't anywhere near "bad." It is exactly what a "Castlevania" game would be in 3D. It is essentially SOTN transformed into 3D with a new story (one that may not be as "cIassic" but is definitely one of the best in the series), characters (some of the best in the series) and setting (dark, unique and very CV).
I think the major problem that people don't seem to understand about the Castlevania formula, is that this is about as good as it would get in 3D, at least, if it stays "true" to the formula established in 2D. Plus, CoD adds things to the Castlevania series that are not seen elsewhere (in the series) and are absolutely amazing additions. These include:
There are a few things that could be added/changed in order to make the game "better," but as it stands, it already is a very solid CV game. 1) The combat could be "smoothed" to make it not as jerky/stiff. 2) The level/room design, despite being visually stunning, could use a little more depth, planning and variety. 3) The enemy designs could be added to, made more various. Granted, the enemies are great, there just isn't very many unique ones, and they all repeat. 4) More weapons/armor build options (there are already tons, but more are always welcome).
Something else I would like to mention, is that Curse of Darkness' older brother, Lament of Innocence is also another game criticized as being "bad" when it ultimately isn't "bad," just not as good as it could be. And I personally don't like the route of being a God of War clone for Lords of Shadow.
[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Well, I pretty much only buy critically acclaimed games, so no. On what basis would I buy a game if everyone says it's bad?The_89So you wouldn't buy a game that you like the look of just becuase other people say it's bad? That kinda sucks. Personally I liked Heavenly Sword a lot more than most of it's reviews. I enjoyed Mirrors Edge and Price Of Persia too No, I've been burned enough times buying games way back before I usually looked at game reviews. I will buy a game before there are any reviews if I got to demo it, as was the case with Aion because of their beta weekend. I will also buy a game if I'm extremely confident that it will be good, such as a Blizzard game or Guild Wars 2. Other than that, no, I'm not spending $50 on the basis of the way a company markets a game. I thought Champions Online was going to be great. I played the beta of that and decided it wasn't really that good. I'm so glad I didn't go buy it just because it seemed like it would be good.
I thought The Hobbit was really fun. If it had better combat, less lag, and shorter loading times, it would have been a fantastic game.
So you wouldn't buy a game that you like the look of just becuase other people say it's bad? That kinda sucks. Personally I liked Heavenly Sword a lot more than most of it's reviews. I enjoyed Mirrors Edge and Price Of Persia too No, I've been burned enough times buying games way back before I usually looked at game reviews. I will buy a game before there are any reviews if I got to demo it, as was the case with Aion because of their beta weekend. I will also buy a game if I'm extremely confident that it will be good, such as a Blizzard game or Guild Wars 2. Other than that, no, I'm not spending $50 on the basis of the way a company markets a game. I thought Champions Online was going to be great. I played the beta of that and decided it wasn't really that good. I'm so glad I didn't go buy it just because it seemed like it would be good.[QUOTE="The_89"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Well, I pretty much only buy critically acclaimed games, so no. On what basis would I buy a game if everyone says it's bad?SpaceMoose
I don't go by other people's reviews since they're completely subjective. Loads of people hate Virtua Fighter, but that never stopped me from playing and enjoying it.
No, I've been burned enough times buying games way back before I usually looked at game reviews. I will buy a game before there are any reviews if I got to demo it, as was the case with Aion because of their beta weekend. I will also buy a game if I'm extremely confident that it will be good, such as a Blizzard game or Guild Wars 2. Other than that, no, I'm not spending $50 on the basis of the way a company markets a game. I thought Champions Online was going to be great. I played the beta of that and decided it wasn't really that good. I'm so glad I didn't go buy it just because it seemed like it would be good.[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]
[QUOTE="The_89"] So you wouldn't buy a game that you like the look of just becuase other people say it's bad? That kinda sucks. Personally I liked Heavenly Sword a lot more than most of it's reviews. I enjoyed Mirrors Edge and Price Of Persia tooMadVybz
I don't go by other people's reviews since they're completely subjective. Loads of people hate Virtua Fighter, but that never stopped me from playing and enjoying it.
But you only know that you like it because you played it. One key difference between games (and music and movies) and other products is that you generally cannot return them if you are dissatisfied. Also, those game get mostly good reviews, so I don't even see what that has to do with what I said anyway. I'm talking about critical reviews. If there are at least a few good ones from reputable sources, then I might buy a game. If they are all negative, then no thanks.Now, it doesn't really work the other way around. I mean, if a game gets all great reviews I might still be completely uninterested, mostly if it's a genre I don't care about, like FPS's. Halo 3 could have received the highest score from every gaming media outlet for all I care, but I still wouldn't go out and pay full price for it.
The bottom line is this: I have a finite amount of money and time to play games. What incentive is there for me to go get a game that almost every professional reviewer dislikes when there are plenty of other options that I can be fairly certain will be good? Why take the "maybe" good over the "very likely" good?
[QUOTE="MadVybz"]
[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"] No, I've been burned enough times buying games way back before I usually looked at game reviews. I will buy a game before there are any reviews if I got to demo it, as was the case with Aion because of their beta weekend. I will also buy a game if I'm extremely confident that it will be good, such as a Blizzard game or Guild Wars 2. Other than that, no, I'm not spending $50 on the basis of the way a company markets a game. I thought Champions Online was going to be great. I played the beta of that and decided it wasn't really that good. I'm so glad I didn't go buy it just because it seemed like it would be good.
SpaceMoose
I don't go by other people's reviews since they're completely subjective. Loads of people hate Virtua Fighter, but that never stopped me from playing and enjoying it.
But you only know that you like it because you played it. One key difference between games (and music and movies) and other products is that you generally cannot return them if you are dissatisfied. Also, those game get mostly good reviews, so I don't even see what that has to do with what I said anyway. I'm talking about critical reviews. If there are at least a few good ones from reputable sources, then I might buy a game. If they are all negative, then no thanks.Now, it doesn't really work the other way around. I mean, if a game gets all great reviews I might still be completely uninterested, mostly if it's a genre I don't care about, like FPS's. Halo 3 could have received the highest score from every gaming media outlet for all I care, but I still wouldn't go out and pay full price for it.
The bottom line is this: I have a finite amount of money and time to play games. What incentive is there for me to go get a game that almost every professional reviewer dislikes when there are plenty of other options that I can be fairly certain will be good? Why take the "maybe" good over the "very likely" good?
Like I said, all reviews are subjective opinions - and that includes critics. Just because a critic likes a game and hates another, doesn't mean that you will too. If you only have the time to play the mainstream then that's fine and dandy, but it only means that you will be missing out on other games that got lower scores from critics but may be a treasure to you. And it could easily go the other way around - MK vs DC (I choose this because I'm a fighting fan to death) got a score of 7.5 - meaning that it's good. That reflects the views of a Gamespot reviewer, but to me, it's anything but good. MK has always been a poorly developed, broken fighter, yet it gets good reviews on most cases (And I STILL don't understand why).
I also find the whole professional reviews > user reviews to be a bunch of BS too. Just because someone is a 'professional' reviewer doesn't mean that his/her opinionis undisputed fact. It seems to me that not a lot of people know that.
Far Cry 2.
Raikoh_
You know, I was going to mention this one as well. I think there might be a pretty big fan base for it, but all I ever hear about it is hate. Now I love it so I am probably biased but sometimes I swear people just enjoy jumping on the hate train.
But you only know that you like it because you played it. One key difference between games (and music and movies) and other products is that you generally cannot return them if you are dissatisfied.
SpaceMoose
Its called renting. ;)
Advent Rising. I love the game, but it seems that a lot of people have trouble with it. I've never encountered the bugs/glitches that people say are there.muthsera666ME TOO! I can't tell you how hard it was for me to get it to run on my PC with a controller in widescreen by changing code around. I ultimately suceeded, though. It took days, but it was worth it. I love it. Sad that they'll never make another one with better graphics. It was an amazing story, and the gameplay was badass.
But you only know that you like it because you played it. One key difference between games (and music and movies) and other products is that you generally cannot return them if you are dissatisfied. Also, those game get mostly good reviews, so I don't even see what that has to do with what I said anyway. I'm talking about critical reviews. If there are at least a few good ones from reputable sources, then I might buy a game. If they are all negative, then no thanks.[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]
[QUOTE="MadVybz"]
I don't go by other people's reviews since they're completely subjective. Loads of people hate Virtua Fighter, but that never stopped me from playing and enjoying it.
MadVybz
Now, it doesn't really work the other way around. I mean, if a game gets all great reviews I might still be completely uninterested, mostly if it's a genre I don't care about, like FPS's. Halo 3 could have received the highest score from every gaming media outlet for all I care, but I still wouldn't go out and pay full price for it.
The bottom line is this: I have a finite amount of money and time to play games. What incentive is there for me to go get a game that almost every professional reviewer dislikes when there are plenty of other options that I can be fairly certain will be good? Why take the "maybe" good over the "very likely" good?
Like I said, all reviews are subjective opinions - and that includes critics. Just because a critic likes a game and hates another, doesn't mean that you will too. If you only have the time to play the mainstream then that's fine and dandy, but it only means that you will be missing out on other games that got lower scores from critics but may be a treasure to you. And it could easily go the other way around - MK vs DC (I choose this because I'm a fighting fan to death) got a score of 7.5 - meaning that it's good. That reflects the views of a Gamespot reviewer, but to me, it's anything but good. MK has always been a poorly developed, broken fighter, yet it gets good reviews on most cases (And I STILL don't understand why).
I also find the whole professional reviews > user reviews to be a bunch of BS too. Just because someone is a 'professional' reviewer doesn't mean that his/her opinionis undisputed fact. It seems to me that not a lot of people know that.
So you instead base your purchasing decisions off of how well the company trying to sell the product markets the game and makes you want to buy it. I don't understand your contention that buying something with no input from someone who actually played it is better than buying something with some input from other people...unless you don't care about blowing money on games that turn out to suck.[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]
But you only know that you like it because you played it. One key difference between games (and music and movies) and other products is that you generally cannot return them if you are dissatisfied.
BladesOfAthena
Its called renting. ;)
Good luck renting PC games. :PGood luck renting PC games. :PSpaceMoose
What, you never heard of borrowing from a friend or a friend of a friend? Think, or at least try to. :P
I guess DRM still hasn't gotten out to the masses.Greyfeld
That only applies to some of the newer games, and even then, not every game utilizes it.
[QUOTE="Greyfeld"] I guess DRM still hasn't gotten out to the masses.BladesOfAthena
That only applies to some of the newer games, and even then, not every game utilizes it.
I don't know about you, but I don't have a slew of friends that are ready and eager to let me borrow their game discs to burn up one of their installs just to find out if I like the game or not. Matter of fact, most of my friends aren't even gamers.I really liked the Wind Waker, but I know a lot of people didnt.Allicrombie
[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"][QUOTE="Greyfeld"] I guess DRM still hasn't gotten out to the masses.Greyfeld
That only applies to some of the newer games, and even then, not every game utilizes it.
I don't know about you, but I don't have a slew of friends that are ready and eager to let me borrow their game discs to burn up one of their installs just to find out if I like the game or not. Matter of fact, most of my friends aren't even gamers.Then get some friends who happen to be gamers. ;) Stop making excuses.
But that's digressing from the point. The point is, there are different ways and methods from which you determine whether a game is good or not instead of going with what another person says because you can't think for yourself.
[QUOTE="MadVybz"]
[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"] But you only know that you like it because you played it. One key difference between games (and music and movies) and other products is that you generally cannot return them if you are dissatisfied. Also, those game get mostly good reviews, so I don't even see what that has to do with what I said anyway. I'm talking about critical reviews. If there are at least a few good ones from reputable sources, then I might buy a game. If they are all negative, then no thanks.
Now, it doesn't really work the other way around. I mean, if a game gets all great reviews I might still be completely uninterested, mostly if it's a genre I don't care about, like FPS's. Halo 3 could have received the highest score from every gaming media outlet for all I care, but I still wouldn't go out and pay full price for it.
The bottom line is this: I have a finite amount of money and time to play games. What incentive is there for me to go get a game that almost every professional reviewer dislikes when there are plenty of other options that I can be fairly certain will be good? Why take the "maybe" good over the "very likely" good?
SpaceMoose
Like I said, all reviews are subjective opinions - and that includes critics. Just because a critic likes a game and hates another, doesn't mean that you will too. If you only have the time to play the mainstream then that's fine and dandy, but it only means that you will be missing out on other games that got lower scores from critics but may be a treasure to you. And it could easily go the other way around - MK vs DC (I choose this because I'm a fighting fan to death) got a score of 7.5 - meaning that it's good. That reflects the views of a Gamespot reviewer, but to me, it's anything but good. MK has always been a poorly developed, broken fighter, yet it gets good reviews on most cases (And I STILL don't understand why).
I also find the whole professional reviews > user reviews to be a bunch of BS too. Just because someone is a 'professional' reviewer doesn't mean that his/her opinionis undisputed fact. It seems to me that not a lot of people know that.
So you instead base your purchasing decisions off of how well the company trying to sell the product markets the game and makes you want to buy it. I don't understand your contention that buying something with no input from someone who actually played it is better than buying something with some input from other people...unless you don't care about blowing money on games that turn out to suck.No. Please stop making assumptions, because that does absolutely nothing.
When it comes to getting games that I like, I can get my impressions anywhere - playing it at a friend's house for a session, playing a machine at the video store, trying out demos etc. I take the time out to actually get information on a game, not a rushed 3 minute video review (or rushed written review) with a score attached to it. I don't even like the concept of scores because A) It's merely a tool used to have a society of impatient individuals figure out which number is closer to 10 and B) I think it's ridiculous that someone's opinion can be represented with a number. MGS4 scored a 10 here on Gamespot, yet the reviewer mentioned that there was a lengthy installation time and occasional drops in frame rate. Wouldn't that mean it isn't a 10, since 10 = Perfect?
I have my own established franchises (which are also very popular) such as Final Fantasy. Many hate FFVIII, X-2 and XII, but does that hinder my loves for those games? Not one bit. As for completely new games - sure, reviews are helpful, but I never just look at the critic reviews and call it a day, because more than often they are pretty close to unanimous. That's how I end up buying garbage like MK vs DC - I'm not the reviewer, I am me. I have my own personal tastes. You are you. And the same goes for you. User reviews are just as important as critic reviews, because looking at a game from only one perspective can mislead you.
Advent Rising. I love the game, but it seems that a lot of people have trouble with it. I've never encountered the bugs/glitches that people say are there.muthsera666
and that was supposed to be a trilogy :lol:
Majesco published it right? Oh boy
I really like Fighting force and that game was universally panned.
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