Your Fav game that most people dislike?

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Like I said, all reviews are subjective opinions - and that includes critics. Just because a critic likes a game and hates another, doesn't mean that you will too. If you only have the time to play the mainstream then that's fine and dandy, but it only means that you will be missing out on other games that got lower scores from critics but may be a treasure to you. And it could easily go the other way around - MK vs DC (I choose this because I'm a fighting fan to death) got a score of 7.5 - meaning that it's good. That reflects the views of a Gamespot reviewer, but to me, it's anything but good. MK has always been a poorly developed, broken fighter, yet it gets good reviews on most cases (And I STILL don't understand why).

I also find the whole professional reviews > user reviews to be a bunch of BS too. Just because someone is a 'professional' reviewer doesn't mean that his/her opinionis undisputed fact. It seems to me that not a lot of people know that.

MadVybz

No. Please stop making assumptions, because that does absolutely nothing.

When it comes to getting games that I like, I can get my impressions anywhere - playing it at a friend's house for a session, playing a machine at the video store, trying out demos etc. I take the time out to actually get information on a game, not a rushed 3 minute video review (or rushed written review) with a score attached to it. I don't even like the concept of scores because A) It's merely a tool used to have a society of impatient individuals figure out which number is closer to 10 and B) I think it's ridiculous that someone's opinion can be represented with a number. MGS4 scored a 10 here on Gamespot, yet the reviewer mentioned that there was a lengthy installation time and occasional drops in frame rate. Wouldn't that mean it isn't a 10, since 10 = Perfect?

I have my own established franchises (which are also very popular) such as Final Fantasy. Many hate FFVIII, X-2 and XII, but does that hinder my loves for those games? Not one bit. As for completely new games - sure, reviews are helpful, but I never just look at the critic reviews and call it a day, because more than often they are pretty close to unanimous. That's how I end up buying garbage like MK vs DC - I'm not the reviewer, I am me. I have my own personal tastes. You are you. And the same goes for you. User reviews are just as important as critic reviews, because looking at a game from only one perspective can mislead you.

Super Mario Bros. 2. I think it's the best in the series in my opinion. I loved the craziness of it and the overall vibe of the game. I know it's not the "real" Mario 2, but it's still awesome in my book.

Operation Flashpoint Cold war Crisis. Its old and it looks crumy but we have good times together.

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"][QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]

That only applies to some of the newer games, and even then, not every game utilizes it.

BladesOfAthena

Then get some friends who happen to be gamers. ;) Stop making excuses.

But that's digressing from the point. The point is, there are different ways and methods from which you determine whether a game is good or not instead of going with what another person says because you can't think for yourself.

Who said I only read the review of one critic? I usually look at Metacritic and see what different people are saying from media outlets that I actually recognize. I don't bother too much with user reviews because it's a waste of my time to weed through all of the idiots that give every game they don't like a 1.0 or that refuse to even attempt to write coherently or that scale their games on bull**** that I would consider mostly superficial. I don't go just by the scores. If I did that I would have a lot of games that I don't.

At the end of the day a game gets a person's interest for one reason or another. Reviews are exactly for when you didn't already get to play the game yourself. Furthermore, because of reviews, I have found games I like that I otherwise probably barely would have even noticed. I don't have the time or inclination to find a way to try out every single game in existence, or even every single game in genres I know I like, and I don't know how anyone could. Thus, reviews are a quick way to at least see if a game might be good.

The fact that you think a 10 means a game is supposed to mean "perfect" is kind of ridiculous as obviously there is no such thing, and what is the point of having a highest score if no game can ever attain it? Then you would just have a different highest score, and would that score then be "perfect"?

Anyway, all I said (or meant at least) was that I don't buy games that get nearly unanimously bad reviews, unless of course I played them and liked them anyway, which of course has happened roughly never, because again, why would I go out of my way to try out a game that is supposedly garbage when there's a ton of other games that I know are supposed to be good, or games that already know that I like? I'm not really counting sequels to games I liked (or didn't like) though; that is another matter entirely, although certainly there have been terrible sequels to great games. (Tomb Raider, I'm looking your way.)

SpaceMoose

I certainly never said that you only looked at one critic. Note that I said critic reviews. But you may as well only read one and leave at that for most cases because it's more than likely that they'll all just say the same thing.

Who ever implied that you had to go out and play every game there is? I certainly didn't. All I've been saying this whole time is that going strictly by critical reviews can be misleading. There are plenty of games that have gotten a 6 from critics but I don't agree entirely (look at something like Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing).

I know that there is no such thing as a perfect game, but here on Gamespot, if you read the fine print below the scores, 10 = perfect.

Or, you can realize that the person you were arguing against is talking about doing research for a game before buying it, instead of doing something stupid like buying a game without any info on it. Reviews are only 1 form of research, and they're legitimate. When was the last time you saw a game score a 6/10, and you thought to yourself, "Boy, I just HAVE to get that game!!" It's probably been a long time. So I don't understand what your problem is.Greyfeld

Ironically, that falls right in line with what I've been saying. Going with what an "expert" says and doing "research" by means of taking in an "expert's" opinion...its the same thing. Even so, its not exactly the most efficient method given that historically, there have been such reviews that contain inaccuracies and a smidgen of personal bias in the past (TR: Underworld controversy anyone?).

Furthermore, using them as the only means and then rushing into a purchasing decision immediately without conducting further testing such as renting, playing a demo, or borrowing from a friend, however, is stupid and foolish. Both of you guys need to be thinking multilaterally, instead of self-imposing imaginary boundaries that can easily be overcome.

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"] Or, you can realize that the person you were arguing against is talking about doing research for a game before buying it, instead of doing something stupid like buying a game without any info on it. Reviews are only 1 form of research, and they're legitimate. When was the last time you saw a game score a 6/10, and you thought to yourself, "Boy, I just HAVE to get that game!!" It's probably been a long time. So I don't understand what your problem is.BladesOfAthena

Ironically, that falls right in line with what I've been saying. Going with what an "expert" says and doing "research" by means of taking in an "expert's" opinion...its the same thing. Even so, its not exactly the most efficient method given that historically, there have been such reviews that contain inaccuracies and a smidgen of personal bias in the past (TR: Underworld controversy anyone?).

Furthermore, using them as the only means and then rushing into a purchasing decision immediately without conducting further testing such as renting, playing a demo, or borrowing from a friend, however, is stupid and foolish. Both of you guys need to be thinking multilaterally, instead of self-imposing imaginary boundaries that can easily be overcome.

I see no reason to rent/borrow a game that already promises to be a good game. I can get a good read on how a game is going to play based on reviews and gameplay videos. If I rent a game, I'm going to end up playing a large chunk of it before I have to send it back... then what's the point of buying the game in the first place? To be quite honest, I primarily play RPGs, and once I'm done with the game, I usually don't touch it for a year or two. For me, renting a game would ruin the purchasing experience. Of course, this is only speaking from my perspective. For the other poster, I'm sure that he also feels that he has a good enough grasp on a game without having to actually have it in his hands first. There have been very very few times where I've done my homework, bought a game, then was disappointed by it. The only purchases i've ever been truly disappointed by were games that I bought on word-of-mouth. Greyfeld

So you have no problem squandering a large chunk of your hard-earned dollars on something solely based on the impressions of an outside source as opposed to getting an actual hands-on approach? That you would rather buy solely for the sake of buying? Simply because you want to gain some sense of self-satisfaction out of it?

Okay, fine then. Its your money, do what you will, however it suits you.

I don't know about you, but personally, I would rather test something out and be assured with the knowledge that I'm going to get a substantial amount of replay value for the years to come before making any final decisions.

So you have no problem squandering a large chunk of your hard-earned dollars on something solely based on the impressions of an outside source as opposed to getting an actual hands-on approach? BladesOfAthena

[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]I really liked the Wind Waker, but I know a lot of people didnt.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]So you have no problem squandering a large chunk of your hard-earned dollars on something solely based on the impressions of an outside source as opposed to getting an actual hands-on approach? Greyfeld

Well I dunno, I think its funny when you say that renting will only hike the purchase price further up (implying that you want to save as much money as possible) after having said that you see no sense in borrowing a game (which costs next to nothing).

Counter Strike: Condition Zero I liked playing against bots, people online were too good.monkeymoose5000

I wouldn't be surprised. I hear that game turns people into zombies with a reaction time of 0.00000000001 seconds.

Castlevania: Curse of Darknessfoxhound_fox

I like Obscure...it usually gets bashed in reviews and by people who've played it but I can't help but enjoy the game.

I picked the game up a while ago, and played it for a good bit, but it's somewhat intimidating with all of the things to do. It was fun while I played it, though.muthsera666

Theres not many games like that for me, I dont think.

I loved Shadowrun, even though it was casually shrugged off by the majority.

I'm more of a disliker of popular games than the reverse.

Far Cry 2, judging by what I've seen on the gaming boards. The thing is, I started out not too impressed, but then it sucked me in and I started to love it and appreciate what the developers had put together.

Dark Sector. It's story is complete bollocks, but I really did have a blast playing it. It's a very fun game that got put down because it was looked on as a Gears rip off.

Final Fantasy VIII, X-2 and XII. I find that most FF 'purists' have trouble dealing with changes in franchises.

MadVybz

Ironically enough, a lot of these "purists" seemed to be those that started the series with FFVII.

Heavenly Sword and Alone In The Dark. I also used to feel good about The Club but that eventually wore off.

Black was a surprise for me, when I picked it up for $20 a couple years back. I hope they make another, but I'm not optimistic.

I don't think it was well received, but I really enjoyed it.

I'd say Castlevania Curse of Darkness and Zelda The Windwaker. Although Wind Waker is in general liked, it does get flack for its art style, which I happen to like a lot and it never bothered me.

Dark Sector. It's story is complete bollocks, but I really did have a blast playing it. It's a very fun game that got put down because it was looked on as a Gears rip off.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Final Fantasy VIII, X-2 and XII. I find that most FF 'purists' have trouble dealing with changes in franchises.

Silent-Hal

Ironically enough, a lot of these "purists" seemed to be those that started the series with FFVII.

Loved Dark Sector too. Getting the Double Decap Latte was one of the most satisfying achievements I've ever unlocked.

The King's Field Series for PS1 & PS2. It's a first-person action-RPG. It has all the elements of the best RPGS: leveling-up, gaining new weapons & armor, learning new spells, open exploration, a wide-variety of enemies & items, and great boss battles. But it is played in a first-person view like a 1st-person shooter, except instead of guns & grenades you use swords, bows & arrows, and magic-spells to battle enemies. It's a very immersive and addicting game.

I love this series so much I play through it about once a year. A lot of people are turned off by the slower-frame rate of the games, and a lot of impatient gamers don't like it because your quest and goals aren't spelled out for you by the game and characters, you actually have to use your head a little.

-Nate-

Hellgate London.

Dynasty warriors series, though I have to admit that when the 5th/6th one came out, even I started to grow tired of them.:P Loved the old beat'em up type gameof the past and these games were a nice stress reliever for me.

Probably Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

As old as the game is, Megaman X6. A LOT of people disliked that game, but I thought it was the best of the PS1 trilogy.

Dark Sector. It's story is complete bollocks, but I really did have a blast playing it. It's a very fun game that got put down because it was looked on as a Gears rip off.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Final Fantasy VIII, X-2 and XII. I find that most FF 'purists' have trouble dealing with changes in franchises.

Silent-Hal

Ironically enough, a lot of these "purists" seemed to be those that started the series with FFVII.

Turn-based fighting is just so old & and outdated and just plain boring nowadays. 20 years ago it made sense because of technology contraints. But nowadays I just don't get why Squaresoft wants to keep using such a boring system.

-Nate-

Turn-based fighting is just so old & and outdated and just plain boring nowadays. 20 years ago it made sense because of technology contraints. But nowadays I just don't get why Squaresoft wants to keep using such a boring system.

-Nate-

Emerald_Warrior

Dynasty Warriors (all of them). Stubbs the Zombie was pretty cool and Darkwatch. Infected (PSP)

Turn-based fighting is just so old & and outdated and just plain boring nowadays. 20 years ago it made sense because of technology contraints. But nowadays I just don't get why Squaresoft wants to keep using such a boring system.

-Nate-

Operation Flashpoint Elite

Dark Sector. It's story is complete bollocks, but I really did have a blast playing it. It's a very fun game that got put down because it was looked on as a Gears rip off.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Final Fantasy VIII, X-2 and XII. I find that most FF 'purists' have trouble dealing with changes in franchises.

Silent-Hal

Ironically enough, a lot of these "purists" seemed to be those that started the series with FFVII.

I've played FFs V - XI +Tactics, and FF VII is far from the 'holy grail' that so many people make it out to be. It's an awesome game, but each FF installment has it's own share of flaws, and each installment should be treated on their own merits, since there isn't even any continuity. Many who hate FFVIII always compare it to older FFs...If FFVIII didn't even have that title, I highly doubt that it would have gotten such a backlash. X-2 and XII really speak for themselves though. X-2 is seen as gay and no more than fan service for FF X fans, and FF XII is simply 'too different'.

Sonic Unleashed, most people didn't even try this one. They just read the reviews and blindly believed the critics.

I like Modern Warfare Reflex Edition for the Wii, and while I don't know the exact statistics of like/dislike, I've heard criticisms of it.

Tenchu Z

Alone in the Dark for the Xbox 360. I understand why alot of people dislike it, the controls are really frustrating, but I don't agree with people who say the story and cutscenes were bad, I thought they were awesome.

Not sure if EVERYONE hates it, but I loved Fallout 3 alot, even more than the originals in some ways. I guess it just might be the vocal minority comprised of old Fallout fanboys. HoolaHoopMan

zelda: majoras mask. its my favorite zelda game