Do You think the redskins are overated

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#1 steveroe29
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they played well last year but this year Mark Brunell is a year older and I think Antawon Randel El is overated last year their new ofensive cordinator had a team that was in the tops in the NFL on scoring that doesn't mean he can turn the Redskins into that he had Trent Green Tony Gonzalez somewhat solid recivers Larry Johnson and a great o-line. Santan Moss is one of the better recivers in the league and  chris cooley is great last year and thats all they have. I think th Redskins are way overated and that the Giants,Cowboys and maybe even the Eagles are better than them
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They are the 3rd best team in the division, Brunell will set them back.......they are way better than the Eagles.

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#3 Wario_and_Fox
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Nope, they're going to the Super Bowl against the Bengals :D Easily best in division
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#4 axel360
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The Redskins have the best coordinators in the league and always play solid defense. Even when they didn't have LaVar Arrington on the field they still made huge stops. The Redskins have a great running game in Clinton Portis and made their receiving core better. If they wetre able to compete in that division, that doesn't mean that they're overrated.
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#5 wallymartin
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No way are they overrated.  As axel said, they always play good defense, so there's no doubt that they'll do it again this year.  On offense, they will have a great running game with Clinton Portis leading the way.  And sure, Brunell is getting older, but that's not a problem.  His offensive weapons are as follows: Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, and Chris Cooley.  Even if you think Antwaan is overrated, Lloyd is good.  Brunell has lots of weapons and the running game will open up opportunities.  And even if Brunell struggles or goes down to injury, they've Jason Campbell to take over.
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#6 axel360
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They are the 3rd best team in the division, Brunell will set them back.......they are way better than the Eagles.

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If you say that Brunell can hold the Redskins back because of his age, then you can say the same thing with Drew Bledsoe holding the Cowboys back because Brunell had a pretty good year throwing for 3000 yards last season. That year was also the most TD passes he threw in a single season in his career. Also Bledsoe was sacked more times than Brunell was last season and you can't say the Redskins had the best O-Line in the league.
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No way are they overrated.  As axel said, they always play good defense, so there's no doubt that they'll do it again this year.  On offense, they will have a great running game with Clinton Portis leading the way.  And sure, Brunell is getting older, but that's not a problem.  His offensive weapons are as follows: Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, and Chris Cooley.  Even if you think Antwaan is overrated, Lloyd is good.  Brunell has lots of weapons and the running game will open up opportunities.  And even if Brunell struggles or goes down to injury, they've Jason Campbell to take over.wallymartin

yep

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[QUOTE="wallymartin"]No way are they overrated. As axel said, they always play good defense, so there's no doubt that they'll do it again this year. On offense, they will have a great running game with Clinton Portis leading the way. And sure, Brunell is getting older, but that's not a problem. His offensive weapons are as follows: Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, and Chris Cooley. Even if you think Antwaan is overrated, Lloyd is good. Brunell has lots of weapons and the running game will open up opportunities. And even if Brunell struggles or goes down to injury, they've Jason Campbell to take over.god_of_football

yep

Jason Campbell has no NFL experience. If Brunell goes down with an injury early the Redskins won't have much of a chance of making the postseason.
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[QUOTE="god_of_football"]

[QUOTE="wallymartin"]No way are they overrated. As axel said, they always play good defense, so there's no doubt that they'll do it again this year. On offense, they will have a great running game with Clinton Portis leading the way. And sure, Brunell is getting older, but that's not a problem. His offensive weapons are as follows: Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, and Chris Cooley. Even if you think Antwaan is overrated, Lloyd is good. Brunell has lots of weapons and the running game will open up opportunities. And even if Brunell struggles or goes down to injury, they've Jason Campbell to take over.bgres077

yep

Jason Campbell has no NFL experience. If Brunell goes down with an injury early the Redskins won't have much of a chance of making the postseason.

Ben Roethilsburger had no experience when he took the Steelers to the playoffs. And as a SEC QB for 4 years, I think it would be an easier transition for him than it was for Big Ben.
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#10 xyoojguy
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I think they are.. They only look good on paper just becasue they over paid for a brunch of over hype players in the off season.. What will hold them back is the QB...  The Cowboys and Gaints are better imo..
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I think they are.. They only look good on paper just becasue they over paid for a brunch of over hype players in the off season.. What will hold them back is the QB...  The Cowboys and Gaints are better imo.. xyoojguy
If Brunell is holding the Redskins back, then Bledsoe is holding the Cowboys back
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#12 WAKEFOREST23
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 i remember watching brunell play for the jags and I still follow him now he is a great qb and what really hurt is fame is that terrible injury he recieved in the playoffs scrambling so he was never really fast anymore.
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#13 Haus926
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I dont even see the Redskins as being rated. Mark Brunell is old, and Santana Moses career has not been very steady. He only recorded one 1000+ w/ the Jets in three years. Mark Brunell is coming in to his 15th year, and after fifteen years you tend to become more injury prone, weaker and less mobile. Moss, being 5'10'' will have to cope with that when going for the aged-decreased deep ball from Mark Brunell. And now that almost every Corner has seen Moss's speed, they can defend him easily. And another thing, look at the difference in yards by Portis from Denver to Washington, at least 100 more carries, but yet his yards have been decreased by 200 hundred. With the return of all four linemen, i can easily see a repeat of last season, which was not one of his best, by far. And with a steady, growing NY Giants team and a great team in Dallas (forget Philly too.) there is a slim chance that they will get anywhere.

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[QUOTE="xyoojguy"]I think they are.. They only look good on paper just becasue they over paid for a brunch of over hype players in the off season.. What will hold them back is the QB...  The Cowboys and Gaints are better imo.. Wario_and_Fox
If Brunell is holding the Redskins back, then Bledsoe is holding the Cowboys back

How so, T.O. is a much better W.R. than Moss, and Glenn is better than Randle El and Witten is as good as Cooley is. That said, Bledsoe would have to do horrible to hold them back
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 [QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="xyoojguy"]I think they are.. They only look good on paper just becasue they over paid for a brunch of over hype players in the off season.. What will hold them back is the QB...  The Cowboys and Gaints are better imo.. Haus926
If Brunell is holding the Redskins back, then Bledsoe is holding the Cowboys back

How so, T.O. is a much better W.R. than Moss, and Glenn is better than Randle El and Witten is as good as Cooley is. That said, Bledsoe would have to do horrible to hold them back

Because they say that Brunell's age will hold the Redskins back. I don't think either will hold their team back whatsoever, but you can't say age for only one QB, and ignore the age of the other Injury-prone? Look at Brett Favre and tell me after 15 seasons you are injury prone
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[QUOTE="Haus926"] [QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="xyoojguy"]I think they are.. They only look good on paper just becasue they over paid for a brunch of over hype players in the off season.. What will hold them back is the QB...  The Cowboys and Gaints are better imo.. Wario_and_Fox
If Brunell is holding the Redskins back, then Bledsoe is holding the Cowboys back

How so, T.O. is a much better W.R. than Moss, and Glenn is better than Randle El and Witten is as good as Cooley is. That said, Bledsoe would have to do horrible to hold them back

Because they say that Brunell's age will hold the Redskins back. I don't think either will hold their team back whatsoever, but you can't say age for only one QB, and ignore the age of the other Injury-prone? Look at Brett Favre and tell me after 15 seasons you are injury prone

 

Thats because Brett Favre is crazy. He plays no matter what, you gotta love that. Not everyone is as though as Favre.

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The redskins are not ovverated, as axel said they have one of the best if not the best coaching staffs in the league. IMO they are slightly better then the Giants and will mostly likely get a wild card into the playoffs
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#19 Wario_and_Fox
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The redskins are not ovverated, as axel said they have one of the best if not the best coaching staffs in the league. IMO they are slightly better then the Giants and will mostly likely get a wild card into the playoffsthetombradyhate
No, like I said, my Super Bowl XLI predicted matchup is Bengals and Redskins
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#20 steveroe29
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slightly better than the Giants  :lol: the redskins are a little better while the Giants got a lot better in the offseason Lavar Arringtonhim in recent years is way  better than what the Giants had in the fist week of the playoffs against the Panthers Tiki Barber is one of the best runningbacks  in the league Shokey is a great tightend Burres is preety good and Tommer is okay Sinorice Moss is a good deep threat and a good third option and Osi Umenyora and Micheal Strahan are beasts and the linebacking core can be okay when healthy and they improved their seconadry too the Redskins add an offensive cordinator and they get all the national hype coaching doesn't always make teans succesful on Espn they never even talk about the Giants even being a playoff contender they should be atleast talked about a little bit since they won the divsion last year and whoever thinks the Redskins will make the suoerbowl is crazy even if they win the division they would get blown out by the Seahawks or the Panthers 
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#21 steveroe29
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[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"]The redskins are not ovverated, as axel said they have one of the best if not the best coaching staffs in the league. IMO they are slightly better then the Giants and will mostly likely get a wild card into the playoffsWario_and_Fox
No, like I said, my Super Bowl XLI predicted matchup is Bengals and Redskins

  are you a redskins fan?
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slightly better than the Giants  :lol: the redskins are a little better while the Giants got a lot better in the offseason Lavar Arringtonhim in recent years is way  better than what the Giants had in the fist week of the playoffs against the Panthers Tiki Barber is one of the best runningbacks  in the league Shokey is a great tightend Burres is preety good and Tommer is okay Sinorice Moss is a good deep threat and a good third option and Osi Umenyora and Micheal Strahan are beasts and the linebacking core can be okay when healthy and they improved their seconadry too the Redskins add an offensive cordinator and they get all the national hype coaching doesn't always make teans succesful on Espn they never even talk about the Giants even being a playoff contender they should be atleast talked about a little bit since they won the divsion last year and whoever thinks the Redskins will make the suoerbowl is crazy even if they win the division they would get blown out by the Seahawks or the Panthers steveroe29

10 lines, no periods. :|

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#23 steveroe29
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its a forum not an essay:x
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its a forum not an essay:xsteveroe29
Still makes it hard to read, and I didn't read it for that reason. It really isn't hard to hit that period button, heck even the comma.
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#25 Wario_and_Fox
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[QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"]The redskins are not ovverated, as axel said they have one of the best if not the best coaching staffs in the league. IMO they are slightly better then the Giants and will mostly likely get a wild card into the playoffssteveroe29
No, like I said, my Super Bowl XLI predicted matchup is Bengals and Redskins

  are you a redskins fan?

Depends if you consider liking the team being a fan, but no, I'm a Packer and Charger fan all the way
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#26 wallymartin
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[QUOTE="steveroe29"]its a forum not an essay:xgeaux321
Still makes it hard to read, and I didn't read it for that reason. It really isn't hard to hit that period button, heck even the comma.

And I find it hard to repsect the opinion of someone who can't do that.  It becomes an uneducated rant if the person can't take the time to make a readable paragraph.

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slightly better than the Giants  :lol: the redskins are a little better while the Giants got a lot better in the offseason Lavar Arringtonhim in recent years is way  better than what the Giants had in the fist week of the playoffs against the Panthers Tiki Barber is one of the best runningbacks  in the league Shokey is a great tightend Burres is preety good and Tommer is okay Sinorice Moss is a good deep threat and a good third option and Osi Umenyora and Micheal Strahan are beasts and the linebacking core can be okay when healthy and they improved their seconadry too the Redskins add an offensive cordinator and they get all the national hype coaching doesn't always make teans succesful on Espn they never even talk about the Giants even being a playoff contender they should be atleast talked about a little bit since they won the divsion last year and whoever thinks the Redskins will make the suoerbowl is crazy even if they win the division they would get blown out by the Seahawks or the Panthers steveroe29
Okay the Giants may be better than the redskins but not necesarilly. Lavar Arrington isn't that good, he use to be known as a big play guy and thats why everyone though he was so good but in the past two years he's had 1 sack, 0 fumbles forced and 0 fumbles recovered. On top of his recent lack of play he is know for ot being a consistent backer. He just kind of goes where he wishes and many times gets caught out of place. AS for the skins coaches can definatly make a big impact. Plus this year the skins got randel el and lloyd. With Santana Moss they can combine for a solid 1-2-3 WR punch. No randel El isn't a top WR, but he can make a good impact in the return game and should be able to thrive as a No. 3 WR. Plus Eli is still up and down and he with the pressure on he might not be able to respond
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#28 axel360
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[QUOTE="geaux321"][QUOTE="steveroe29"]its a forum not an essay:xwallymartin

Still makes it hard to read, and I didn't read it for that reason. It really isn't hard to hit that period button, heck even the comma.

And I find it hard to repsect the opinion of someone who can't do that.  It becomes an uneducated rant if the person can't take the time to make a readable paragraph.

Commas, periods, exclamation points, something. At least you used apostrophes. :)
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[QUOTE="steveroe29"]slightly better than the Giants  :lol: the redskins are a little better while the Giants got a lot better in the offseason Lavar Arringtonhim in recent years is way  better than what the Giants had in the fist week of the playoffs against the Panthers Tiki Barber is one of the best runningbacks  in the league Shokey is a great tightend Burres is preety good and Tommer is okay Sinorice Moss is a good deep threat and a good third option and Osi Umenyora and Micheal Strahan are beasts and the linebacking core can be okay when healthy and they improved their seconadry too the Redskins add an offensive cordinator and they get all the national hype coaching doesn't always make teans succesful on Espn they never even talk about the Giants even being a playoff contender they should be atleast talked about a little bit since they won the divsion last year and whoever thinks the Redskins will make the suoerbowl is crazy even if they win the division they would get blown out by the Seahawks or the Panthers thetombradyhate
Okay the Giants may be better than the redskins but not necesarilly. Lavar Arrington isn't that good, he use to be known as a big play guy and thats why everyone though he was so good but in the past two years he's had 1 sack, 0 fumbles forced and 0 fumbles recovered. On top of his recent lack of play he is know for ot being a consistent backer. He just kind of goes where he wishes and many times gets caught out of place. AS for the skins coaches can definatly make a big impact. Plus this year the skins got randel el and lloyd. With Santana Moss they can combine for a solid 1-2-3 WR punch. No randel El isn't a top WR, but he can make a good impact in the return game and should be able to thrive as a No. 3 WR. Plus Eli is still up and down and he with the pressure on he might not be able to respond

Eli still has some growing up to do but he could break out as a superstar this yearwith the talent he has around him

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[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="steveroe29"]slightly better than the Giants  :lol: the redskins are a little better while the Giants got a lot better in the offseason Lavar Arringtonhim in recent years is way  better than what the Giants had in the fist week of the playoffs against the Panthers Tiki Barber is one of the best runningbacks  in the league Shokey is a great tightend Burres is preety good and Tommer is okay Sinorice Moss is a good deep threat and a good third option and Osi Umenyora and Micheal Strahan are beasts and the linebacking core can be okay when healthy and they improved their seconadry too the Redskins add an offensive cordinator and they get all the national hype coaching doesn't always make teans succesful on Espn they never even talk about the Giants even being a playoff contender they should be atleast talked about a little bit since they won the divsion last year and whoever thinks the Redskins will make the suoerbowl is crazy even if they win the division they would get blown out by the Seahawks or the Panthers steveroe29

Okay the Giants may be better than the redskins but not necesarilly. Lavar Arrington isn't that good, he use to be known as a big play guy and thats why everyone though he was so good but in the past two years he's had 1 sack, 0 fumbles forced and 0 fumbles recovered. On top of his recent lack of play he is know for ot being a consistent backer. He just kind of goes where he wishes and many times gets caught out of place. AS for the skins coaches can definatly make a big impact. Plus this year the skins got randel el and lloyd. With Santana Moss they can combine for a solid 1-2-3 WR punch. No randel El isn't a top WR, but he can make a good impact in the return game and should be able to thrive as a No. 3 WR. Plus Eli is still up and down and he with the pressure on he might not be able to respond

Eli still has some growing up to do but he could break out as a superstar this yearwith the talent he has around him

yeah he could but thats the key word he could not he will, and if he doesn't the redskins will likley be better then the Giants