New England

This Bye week couldn't have come at a better time.

Seymour hopefully with be back in two weeks.

Poole will be back.

Guys who are hurt will have time to mend their wounds a little.

Oh and did I mention that #54 is coming back! w00t, w00t!

This Bye week couldn't have come at a better time.

Seymour hopefully with be back in two weeks.

Poole will be back.

Guys who are hurt will have time to mend their wounds a little.

Oh and did I mention that #54 is coming back! w00t, w00t!

Herrdoktor

Bruschi's a dumbass.  I don't care if the doctors say that after healing from his stroke, he's become God.  Do you have any idea how many times a doctor or doctors mis-diagnois an illness?  Why do you think their insurance rates are through the roof?  The man had a stroke.  Mild, severe, it doesn't matter.  It's a stroke.  He's rushing back and he could end up dead.  The NFL isn't Basket Weaving 101.  It's the most physically and mentally draining sport in perhaps the entire world.  I'm not insulting your opinion, Herr.....I just think Bruschi's taking an awfully big risk when he doesn't need to.  The Pats aren't going anywhere this year and I would hate to see the potentially awful reprecussions that come from his uninformed and moronic decision.   

Bruschi's a dumbass.    

VanHalun040604

Everyone who knows anything about football just stopped reading there.

Probably one of the best (easily one of the most instinctual) linebackers in recent NFL history and you just called him a dumbass.

I am pretty sure Bruschi knows what he is getting himself into.

He's a grown man and has made his decision.

To mock or insult him about it is just pathetic.

The Pats are scared that they will have to face the Jags in the AFC Championship. So, they want to lose to take themselves out of their misery because a loss to the Jags would be slow and painful.Godfixated

The Jags were saying the same thing about a decade ago and looked what happened.

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

Bruschi's a dumbass.    

Herrdoktor

Everyone who knows anything about football just stopped reading there.

Probably one of the best (easily one of the most instinctual) linebackers in recent NFL history and you just called him a dumbass.

I am pretty sure Bruschi knows what he is getting himself into.

He's a grown man and has made his decision.

To mock or insult him about it is just pathetic.

So you think because he's an "instinctual" linebacker that he's a genius off the field?

:lol: 

Good one, dude......

I'll say it again.  He's a dumbass.  Brilliant football player......but a dumbass in everyday life.  Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.

everyday life.  Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.VanHalun040604

What credibility do you have on this subject?

Absolutely none.

You don't know him, nor are you medically knowledgable to diagnose his condition.

You may not agree with it, but too bad. 

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

everyday life.  Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.Herrdoktor

What credibility do you have on this subject?

Absolutely none.

You don't know him, nor are you medically knowledgable to diagnose his condition.

You may not agree with it, but too bad. 

Both of my parents are doctors and I've been studying medicine for the past three years....:roll:

[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

everyday life.  Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.VanHalun040604

What credibility do you have on this subject?

Absolutely none.

You don't know him, nor are you medically knowledgable to diagnose his condition.

You may not agree with it, but too bad. 

Both of my parents are doctors and I've been studying medicine for the past three years....:roll:

You are in medical school, now? Or, are you a pre-medicine student?

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

everyday life.  Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.Godfixated

What credibility do you have on this subject?

Absolutely none.

You don't know him, nor are you medically knowledgable to diagnose his condition.

You may not agree with it, but too bad. 

Both of my parents are doctors and I've been studying medicine for the past three years....:roll:

You are in medical school, now? Or, are you a pre-medicine student?

No, I'm currently a senior in high school.

[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

everyday life.  Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.VanHalun040604

What credibility do you have on this subject?

Absolutely none.

You don't know him, nor are you medically knowledgable to diagnose his condition.

You may not agree with it, but too bad. 

Both of my parents are doctors and I've been studying medicine for the past three years....:roll:

Sure they are :lol:

And even if they are I highly doubt they are specialized in stroke victims or know anything about sports medicine.

Again...YOU have zero credibility and zero reason to insult his choice.

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

everyday life.  Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.Herrdoktor

What credibility do you have on this subject?

Absolutely none.

You don't know him, nor are you medically knowledgable to diagnose his condition.

You may not agree with it, but too bad. 

Both of my parents are doctors and I've been studying medicine for the past three years....:roll:

Sure they are :lol:

And even if they are I highly doubt they are specialized in stroke victims or know anything about sports medicine.

Again...YOU have zero credibility and zero reason to insult his choice.

Okay....believe whatever you want to believe.  I don't care, dude.

I have as much credibility in commenting on whether a stroke victim should play football as Tedy Bruschi does on making a decision on his own situation.  He knows what his doctor's tell him.  That's all.  And I can tell you that more often than not, a doctor trying to foresee the future possibilities of implications regarding any sports injury is pathetically absurd.  If you don't believe me.....talk to your OWN doctor.  And ask another.  And another.  And another.  I guarantee the majority of them will say that his decision is VERY risky.  Whether or not he dies is obviously still TBD.  But he's taking an unneccessary risk less than a year after suffering a stroke.  I don't care if it was mild or not.  He could very well end up dead.  If you don't want to listen to fact, I can't make you, dude.   

I have as much credibility in commenting on whether a stroke victim should play football as Tedy Bruschi does on making a decision on his own situation.     VanHalun040604

No, no you don't.

That where you're confused.

I've got to agree with VanHalun on this, Bruschi is a great linebacker, but he's an idiot.

Now I don't know what kind of damage the stroke did to his body, but I do know that it's not your everyday football injury.  Even if there is no permanant damage, there's no way he'll play up to his own standards.  Those instincts may even be a little off.  Any massive blow to the head and who knows what could happen. 

I just think that he's putting an awful lot on the line for something that offers him little in return.  Of course, if he helps win them the Super Bowl he'll be an outright legend.

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

I have as much credibility in commenting on whether a stroke victim should play football as Tedy Bruschi does on making a decision on his own situation.     Herrdoktor

No, no you don't.

That where you're confused.

You really are dilusional, dude....Again, if you don't believe me, ask some doctors....

[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

everyday life. Just because someone's a "grown man" doesn't give them any more credibiltiy than you or I.VanHalun040604

What credibility do you have on this subject?

Absolutely none.

You don't know him, nor are you medically knowledgable to diagnose his condition.

You may not agree with it, but too bad.

Both of my parents are doctors and I've been studying medicine for the past three years....:roll:

Sure they are :lol:

And even if they are I highly doubt they are specialized in stroke victims or know anything about sports medicine.

Again...YOU have zero credibility and zero reason to insult his choice.

Okay....believe whatever you want to believe. I don't care, dude.

I have as much credibility in commenting on whether a stroke victim should play football as Tedy Bruschi does on making a decision on his own situation. He knows what his doctor's tell him. That's all. And I can tell you that more often than not, a doctor trying to foresee the future possibilities of implications regarding any sports injury is pathetically absurd. If you don't believe me.....talk to your OWN doctor. And ask another. And another. And another. I guarantee the majority of them will say that his decision is VERY risky. Whether or not he dies is obviously still TBD. But he's taking an unneccessary risk less than a year after suffering a stroke. I don't care if it was mild or not. He could very well end up dead. If you don't want to listen to fact, I can't make you, dude.

ok, he got clearance from a doctor. big whoop, doctor's opinions (these days) can be bought and sold. who does the doctor work for? the doctor works for the NE patriots, that's who. FishPicker

This is simply not true.

He's had about 20 doctors all clear him to play, including some of the nation's top doctors in this field.

You guys are making it seem like he's doing this for pride. 
That's just retarded.
This is his job. 
He's a football player.
If he's been medically cleared by numerous doctors and he doesn't play their would be the same nobodies on the other side of the coin pissing and moaning that he's being 'selfish' by taking the year off.  I know this to be true, since I've had to listen to them on the radio for the past 3 months.

This all comes down to two things:
1.) Our opinion means absolutely nothing.  As much as some people here want to lie to themselves to feel special, we are nothing when it comes to this issue.  We are gamers with too much free time talking about football.  Nothing more.
2.) Brusci is a grown man and doesn't need to listen to nobodies like us bash his decision. 
The same would go for any of you making a life changing decision and then out of the clear blue so yahoo starts trashing you for it. 

[QUOTE="FishPicker"]

ok, he got clearance from a doctor. big whoop, doctor's opinions (these days) can be bought and sold. who does the doctor work for? the doctor works for the NE patriots, that's who. Herrdoktor

This is simply not true.

He's had about 20 doctors all clear him to play, including some of the nation's top doctors in this field.

You guys are making it seem like he's doing this for pride. 
That's just retarded.
This is his job. 
He's a football player.
If he's been medically cleared by numerous doctors and he doesn't play their would be the same nobodies on the other side of the coin pissing and moaning that he's being 'selfish' by taking the year off.  I know this to be true, since I've had to listen to them on the radio for the past 3 months.

This all comes down to two things:
1.) Our opinion means absolutely nothing.  As much as some people here want to lie to themselves to feel special, we are nothing when it comes to this issue.  We are gamers with too much free time talking about football.  Nothing more.
2.) Brusci is a grown man and doesn't need to listen to nobodies like us bash his decision. 
The same would go for any of you making a life changing decision and then out of the clear blue so yahoo starts trashing you for it. 

1st, comparing people complaining that hes not playing to people who have some little concern about hie welfare is ridiculous .

and 2nd the guys 32, thats retirement age in the NFL. Hes got 3 kids and a wife. does he really need to go on the field for 1 or 2 more years to support them ? i seriously doubt it. Its all about pride. You mean to tell me another ring (maybe) is worth the risk of his kids growing up with out a dad ? please...

VanH. is dead right . hes a dumbass.

1st, comparing people complaining that hes not playing to people who have some little concern about hie welfare is ridiculous .  yamabushi98

Unqualified nobodies complaining about his decision.

It's a perfect comparison.

[QUOTE="yamabushi98"]

1st, comparing people complaining that hes not playing to people who have some little concern about hie welfare is ridiculous .  Herrdoktor

Unqualified nobodies complaining about his decision.

It's a perfect comparison.

opinion : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

complaint : something that is the cause or subject of protest or outcry

hes a dumbass = opinion

the only people complaining will be his fatherless kids.

"why did daddy die mom?"     

"well son, the patriots were soft againest the run that year"

"so daddy loved football more than us?"

"thats right son, your fatherless so the patriots could have home field advantage in a wildcard game"

"mom, dad was a dumbass"

"he was son, he was"

[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="yamabushi98"]

1st, comparing people complaining that hes not playing to people who have some little concern about hie welfare is ridiculous .  yamabushi98

Unqualified nobodies complaining about his decision.

It's a perfect comparison.

opinion : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

complaint : something that is the cause or subject of protest or outcry

hes a dumbass = opinion

the only people complaining will be his fatherless kids.

"why did daddy die mom?"     

"well son, the patriots were soft againest the run that year"

"so daddy loved football more than us?"

"thats right son, your fatherless so the patriots could have home field advantage in a wildcard game"

"mom, dad was a dumbass"

"he was son, he was"

^^^ That post = makes you look like a dumbass

Wow that all tied up nicely. 

[QUOTE="yamabushi98"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="yamabushi98"]

1st, comparing people complaining that hes not playing to people who have some little concern about hie welfare is ridiculous .  Herrdoktor

Unqualified nobodies complaining about his decision.

It's a perfect comparison.

opinion : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

complaint : something that is the cause or subject of protest or outcry

hes a dumbass = opinion

the only people complaining will be his fatherless kids.

"why did daddy die mom?"     

"well son, the patriots were soft againest the run that year"

"so daddy loved football more than us?"

"thats right son, your fatherless so the patriots could have home field advantage in a wildcard game"

"mom, dad was a dumbass"

"he was son, he was"

^^^ That post = makes you look like a dumbass

Wow that all tied up nicely. 

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future.

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond me.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face.  Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

(Woo)  Go Pats... 

[QUOTE="yamabushi98"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="yamabushi98"]

1st, comparing people complaining that hes not playing to people who have some little concern about hie welfare is ridiculous .  Herrdoktor

Unqualified nobodies complaining about his decision.

It's a perfect comparison.

opinion : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

complaint : something that is the cause or subject of protest or outcry

hes a dumbass = opinion

the only people complaining will be his fatherless kids.

"why did daddy die mom?"     

"well son, the patriots were soft againest the run that year"

"so daddy loved football more than us?"

"thats right son, your fatherless so the patriots could have home field advantage in a wildcard game"

"mom, dad was a dumbass"

"he was son, he was"

^^^ That post = makes you look like a dumbass

Wow that all tied up nicely. 

WOW, thats such a logical, intelligent argument. (sarcasm)

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. VanHalun040604

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. Herrdoktor

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

The fact that football being uneccessary is a subjective opinion???  What the hell are you talking about?  It's a game.  That's accepted by the players, the media, and the public; it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  And guess what?  Just because he's an adult doesn't make him wise.  George Bush is an adult...but he's still a moron.  I'm hoping he makes it through this season alive and without any life-long injuries.......he's pushing it no matter what.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. VanHalun040604

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

The fact that football being uneccessary is a subjective opinion???  What the hell are you talking about?  It's a game.  That's accepted by the players, the media, and the public; it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  And guess what?  Just because he's an adult doesn't make him wise.  George Bush is an adult...but he's still a moron.  I'm hoping he makes it through this season alive and without any life-long injuries.......he's pushing it no matter what.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

:lol: There's a lot of truth to that George W. Bush thing.

It sounds like things got way out of control here. First of all, you guys need to take a deep breath a calm down.

Now, I agree with you to some extent.

It is just a game and it's Bruschi's choice to come back and play football. If he does suffer another stroke again, it will be Bruschi suffering for the rest of his life, not the fans.

As for the personal attacks, try to ignore them but those really should be avoided in the first place. First of all, and vanhalun is the first person I'll respond to here since he's the only mod I've seen in this thread so far, is that these personal attack posts need to get modded. I don't care if there edited or what but they should not be sitting around like this. It's rude and it reflects a bad attitude amongst some of the members.

We're one of the best sports unions at GameSpot guys. Start showing some class and if you have a problem with somebody else's opinion, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Personally, I don't like it when I come in here and somebody is throwing a stupid hissyfit about how so and so shouldn't have come back to football and is shooting down other peoples opinions.

I know I'm not one to talk since I've done it with vanhalun and a few other people on here but at least I'm willing to admit it and that I made a mistake. I hope the rest of you that made a personal attack do the same.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

VanHalun040604

I've been on Gamespot for damn near 5 years.  I was still working on my undergraduate degree when I started.

And I'm not on that much. 
I just stay longed onto my work computer while I do other stuff in the background.

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

Herrdoktor

I've been on Gamespot for damn near 5 years.  I was still working on my undergraduate degree when I started.

And I'm not on that much. 
I just stay longed onto my work computer while I do other stuff in the background.

Hey vanhalun, you do know that people with jobs also have free time. Maybe this is his hobby. :D

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. Toucanbird

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

The fact that football being uneccessary is a subjective opinion???  What the hell are you talking about?  It's a game.  That's accepted by the players, the media, and the public; it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  And guess what?  Just because he's an adult doesn't make him wise.  George Bush is an adult...but he's still a moron.  I'm hoping he makes it through this season alive and without any life-long injuries.......he's pushing it no matter what.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

:lol: There's a lot of truth to that George W. Bush thing.

It sounds like things got way out of control here. First of all, you guys need to take a deep breath a calm down.

Now, I agree with you to some extent.

It is just a game and it's Bruschi's choice to come back and play football. If he does suffer another stroke again, it will be Bruschi suffering for the rest of his life, not the fans.

As for the personal attacks, try to ignore them but those really should be avoided in the first place. First of all, and vanhalun is the first person I'll respond to here since he's the only mod I've seen in this thread so far, is that these personal attack posts need to get modded. I don't care if there edited or what but they should not be sitting around like this. It's rude and it reflects a bad attitude amongst some of the members.

We're one of the best sports unions at GameSpot guys. Start showing some class and if you have a problem with somebody else's opinion, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Personally, I don't like it when I come in here and somebody is throwing a stupid hissyfit about how so and so shouldn't have come back to football and is shooting down other peoples opinions.

I know I'm not one to talk since I've done it with vanhalun and a few other people on here but at least I'm willing to admit it and that I made a mistake. I hope the rest of you that made a personal attack do the same.

OK.  I'll apologize for the "dumbass" remark before.  That's it.  Debating is what makes these boards great; I encourage arguments between members.  You learn a lot when you argue.....if it's intelligent.

And dude, no one needs to calm down.  We're not as all riled up as you might think we are, man.... 

[QUOTE="Toucanbird"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. VanHalun040604

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

The fact that football being uneccessary is a subjective opinion???  What the hell are you talking about?  It's a game.  That's accepted by the players, the media, and the public; it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  And guess what?  Just because he's an adult doesn't make him wise.  George Bush is an adult...but he's still a moron.  I'm hoping he makes it through this season alive and without any life-long injuries.......he's pushing it no matter what.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

:lol: There's a lot of truth to that George W. Bush thing.

It sounds like things got way out of control here. First of all, you guys need to take a deep breath a calm down.

Now, I agree with you to some extent.

It is just a game and it's Bruschi's choice to come back and play football. If he does suffer another stroke again, it will be Bruschi suffering for the rest of his life, not the fans.

As for the personal attacks, try to ignore them but those really should be avoided in the first place. First of all, and vanhalun is the first person I'll respond to here since he's the only mod I've seen in this thread so far, is that these personal attack posts need to get modded. I don't care if there edited or what but they should not be sitting around like this. It's rude and it reflects a bad attitude amongst some of the members.

We're one of the best sports unions at GameSpot guys. Start showing some class and if you have a problem with somebody else's opinion, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Personally, I don't like it when I come in here and somebody is throwing a stupid hissyfit about how so and so shouldn't have come back to football and is shooting down other peoples opinions.

I know I'm not one to talk since I've done it with vanhalun and a few other people on here but at least I'm willing to admit it and that I made a mistake. I hope the rest of you that made a personal attack do the same.

OK.  I'll apologize for the "dumbass" remark before.  That's it.  Debating is what makes these boards great; I encourage arguments between members.  You learn a lot when you argue.....if it's intelligent.

And dude, no one needs to calm down.  We're not as all riled up as you might think we are, man.... 

It's not arguments or debates that I'm talking about. I like arguments and debates on these boards. It's when members start making personal attacks on other members because they have different opinions that I'm talking about. I wasn't necessarily referring to you when I meant the personal attacks. I was just recommending that you do more monitoring and editing when someone makes a person attack.

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Toucanbird"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. Toucanbird

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

The fact that football being uneccessary is a subjective opinion???  What the hell are you talking about?  It's a game.  That's accepted by the players, the media, and the public; it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  And guess what?  Just because he's an adult doesn't make him wise.  George Bush is an adult...but he's still a moron.  I'm hoping he makes it through this season alive and without any life-long injuries.......he's pushing it no matter what.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

:lol: There's a lot of truth to that George W. Bush thing.

It sounds like things got way out of control here. First of all, you guys need to take a deep breath a calm down.

Now, I agree with you to some extent.

It is just a game and it's Bruschi's choice to come back and play football. If he does suffer another stroke again, it will be Bruschi suffering for the rest of his life, not the fans.

As for the personal attacks, try to ignore them but those really should be avoided in the first place. First of all, and vanhalun is the first person I'll respond to here since he's the only mod I've seen in this thread so far, is that these personal attack posts need to get modded. I don't care if there edited or what but they should not be sitting around like this. It's rude and it reflects a bad attitude amongst some of the members.

We're one of the best sports unions at GameSpot guys. Start showing some class and if you have a problem with somebody else's opinion, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Personally, I don't like it when I come in here and somebody is throwing a stupid hissyfit about how so and so shouldn't have come back to football and is shooting down other peoples opinions.

I know I'm not one to talk since I've done it with vanhalun and a few other people on here but at least I'm willing to admit it and that I made a mistake. I hope the rest of you that made a personal attack do the same.

OK.  I'll apologize for the "dumbass" remark before.  That's it.  Debating is what makes these boards great; I encourage arguments between members.  You learn a lot when you argue.....if it's intelligent.

And dude, no one needs to calm down.  We're not as all riled up as you might think we are, man.... 

It's not arguments or debates that I'm talking about. I like arguments and debates on these boards. It's when members start making personal attacks on other members because they have different opinions that I'm talking about. I wasn't necessarily referring to you when I meant the personal attacks. I was just recommending that you do more monitoring and editing when someone makes a person attack.

Well if you or any other members have any issues with personal attacks on the boards, PM me and I'll go over the situation and do my best to rectify it in any way possible.  Most of us mods don't do too much of editing other's posts.  And dude, you should really learn to stop taking personal attacks so seriously...I've never seen anything so revolting that it deserves moderation.  If someone says, "You're a dumbass," you should have the mental strength to blow that off as a mere joke.  But I mean, if someone's going out of their way to incense someone or call them out, then I'll put a stop to it.  I've never seen anything like that, and I hope I won't.  But you need to get over some of the less severe things people say on the boards, dude.  How are you gonna respond to someone personally attacking you in real life?  People are dumb; they say dumb things.  And you have to be able to blow that **** off if you're gonna ever make it anywhere in life.  Anyways, if you want me or any of the other mods to review something you feel is inappropriate, then by all means, feel free.

[QUOTE="Toucanbird"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Toucanbird"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. VanHalun040604

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

The fact that football being uneccessary is a subjective opinion???  What the hell are you talking about?  It's a game.  That's accepted by the players, the media, and the public; it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  And guess what?  Just because he's an adult doesn't make him wise.  George Bush is an adult...but he's still a moron.  I'm hoping he makes it through this season alive and without any life-long injuries.......he's pushing it no matter what.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

:lol: There's a lot of truth to that George W. Bush thing.

It sounds like things got way out of control here. First of all, you guys need to take a deep breath a calm down.

Now, I agree with you to some extent.

It is just a game and it's Bruschi's choice to come back and play football. If he does suffer another stroke again, it will be Bruschi suffering for the rest of his life, not the fans.

As for the personal attacks, try to ignore them but those really should be avoided in the first place. First of all, and vanhalun is the first person I'll respond to here since he's the only mod I've seen in this thread so far, is that these personal attack posts need to get modded. I don't care if there edited or what but they should not be sitting around like this. It's rude and it reflects a bad attitude amongst some of the members.

We're one of the best sports unions at GameSpot guys. Start showing some class and if you have a problem with somebody else's opinion, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Personally, I don't like it when I come in here and somebody is throwing a stupid hissyfit about how so and so shouldn't have come back to football and is shooting down other peoples opinions.

I know I'm not one to talk since I've done it with vanhalun and a few other people on here but at least I'm willing to admit it and that I made a mistake. I hope the rest of you that made a personal attack do the same.

OK.  I'll apologize for the "dumbass" remark before.  That's it.  Debating is what makes these boards great; I encourage arguments between members.  You learn a lot when you argue.....if it's intelligent.

And dude, no one needs to calm down.  We're not as all riled up as you might think we are, man.... 

It's not arguments or debates that I'm talking about. I like arguments and debates on these boards. It's when members start making personal attacks on other members because they have different opinions that I'm talking about. I wasn't necessarily referring to you when I meant the personal attacks. I was just recommending that you do more monitoring and editing when someone makes a person attack.

Well if you or any other members have any issues with personal attacks on the boards, PM me and I'll go over the situation and do my best to rectify it in any way possible.  Most of us mods don't do too much of editing other's posts.  And dude, you should really learn to stop taking personal attacks so seriously...I've never seen anything so revolting that it deserves moderation.  If someone says, "You're a dumbass," you should have the mental strength to blow that off as a mere joke.  But I mean, if someone's going out of their way to incense someone or call them out, then I'll put a stop to it.  I've never seen anything like that, and I hope I won't.  But you need to get over some of the less severe things people say on the boards, dude.  How are you gonna respond to someone personally attacking you in real life?  People are dumb; they say dumb things.  And you have to be able to blow that **** off if you're gonna ever make it anywhere in life.  Anyways, if you want me or any of the other mods to review something you feel is inappropriate, then by all means, feel free.

vanhalun, you're making it sound like I'm the one offended by these personal attacks. That is not the case. I am acting in the best case of GameSpot users. I would like to point out a few things vanhalun. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone can just blow things off like that. I can, but what if someone gets a personal attack on here and they become depressed about it. You can say, "Oh, you should be able to take a shot, if you can't, you're a wimp." That's is not a mature behavior. That is why I am getting onto you about this matter. Besides, I know some things about monitoring. I'm an officer for four unions. That is why I am getting onto you about it. From what it sounds like, you haven't had that situation happen to you before. Well, I have and let's just say the results have not been pretty. I've been in the middle of some pretty bad arguments that involve a lot of monitoring. People get offended by things, you may not think of it much but someone else might. I just started this whole thing because I didn't want anything to get out of control. Sometimes, when personal attacks are started, some pretty bad arguments are started that involve the need of monitoring and sometimes suspension from GameSpot. I'm just trying to keep that from happening. If you don't agree with me, then fine. I won't do anything from now on, but I just want to remind you that people do sometimes get suspended on here for that kind of behavior and that is what I am trying to prevent.

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. Herrdoktor

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Assinine - possibly. Cheap shot - sure, why not. BS - hardly. Bruschhi IS putting football above his family. please tell us all, how is he putting his family before football ??

[QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Toucanbird"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Toucanbird"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"][QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="VanHalun040604"]

It was a sarcastic and hypothetical situation, which may unfortunately have some accuracy in the future. Toucanbird

No it was assinine and was trying to show that Bruschi is putting football above his family.
That's bs and a cheap shot. 

Bottomline:  Bruschi had a stroke in February.  Several doctors OK-ed him to play.  He thinks he can play.  The Pats are going nowhere fast.

Ok.

I don't care if Jesus himself says he can play.  He's taking an unnecessary risk given the situations no matter what anyone says.  He's a pretty good player, but he's not going to change much anyway.  Some risks are unavoidable, but he's pushing it.

It's his choice.  Not yours.  Get over it.

Just because you're a misguided dumbass Pats fan and you want to see some fellow dumbass guy return to play a GAME doesn't mean a damn thing.

Let's try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
And I don't want to 'see' anything.
I am openly supporting the decision a player made.
I am not going to insult that decision because I am a mature adult.
Some of you have shown otherwise.

Why you're critisizing FACTS is beyond m e.  The situation is clear.  The risks are clear.  And the cause is unecessary.

Actually that's subjective based upon your opinion, so no that's not a fact. 
Keep plugging away at that high school education. 
Opinion =/= facts.

And just because there is risk, that does not mean Brusci does not realize them, nor does that make him stupid.
For the last time.  He is an adult.  He gets to make these types of decisions no matter how much you disagree.

You know, I've never thought I'd say this about any innocent individual.....but I hope he DOES end up spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair or worse after he comes back.  Then I could shove it in your misguided and ignorant face. 

Actually this gives us some insight into the kind of person you are for even thinking something like that. 
Especially when you are talking to a person who spent a good deal of his life in a wheelchair.
And if you don't believe me, well I personally don't give a ****.

 Here we are wishing and hoping the best for Tedy, and you want him to come back and play some meaningless game because you THINK you know everything about medicine.  That's wise.

When did I EVER say I knew anything about medicine?
When did I even HINT at knowing anything about medicine?
My Masters degree is in CJ. 
Who the hell's posts were you reading that even remotely insinuated that I know medicine???

Also, who was the one bragging about his parents being doctors?  Not ****ing me!

I want Bruschi to do whatever the **** Bruschi wants to do.
If he doesn't play, he doesn't play.
If he does, then I am going to cheer him on every second of the game.

What I am NOT GOING TO DO is bad-mouth or insult his decision. (which ever one he decided) 
That is what all of you have done and its pathetic.

Don't try to spin your bs opinion and skewed and disgusting viewpoints onto me.

The fact that football being uneccessary is a subjective opinion???  What the hell are you talking about?  It's a game.  That's accepted by the players, the media, and the public; it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  And guess what?  Just because he's an adult doesn't make him wise.  George Bush is an adult...but he's still a moron.  I'm hoping he makes it through this season alive and without any life-long injuries.......he's pushing it no matter what.

By the way, if you have a masters degree in CJ, what the hell are you doing on GameSpot and how are you on so much?????

:lol: There's a lot of truth to that George W. Bush thing.

It sounds like things got way out of control here. First of all, you guys need to take a deep breath a calm down.

Now, I agree with you to some extent.

It is just a game and it's Bruschi's choice to come back and play football. If he does suffer another stroke again, it will be Bruschi suffering for the rest of his life, not the fans.

As for the personal attacks, try to ignore them but those really should be avoided in the first place. First of all, and vanhalun is the first person I'll respond to here since he's the only mod I've seen in this thread so far, is that these personal attack posts need to get modded. I don't care if there edited or what but they should not be sitting around like this. It's rude and it reflects a bad attitude amongst some of the members.

We're one of the best sports unions at GameSpot guys. Start showing some class and if you have a problem with somebody else's opinion, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Personally, I don't like it when I come in here and somebody is throwing a stupid hissyfit about how so and so shouldn't have come back to football and is shooting down other peoples opinions.

I know I'm not one to talk since I've done it with vanhalun and a few other people on here but at least I'm willing to admit it and that I made a mistake. I hope the rest of you that made a personal attack do the same.

OK.  I'll apologize for the "dumbass" remark before.  That's it.  Debating is what makes these boards great; I encourage arguments between members.  You learn a lot when you argue.....if it's intelligent.

And dude, no one needs to calm down.  We're not as all riled up as you might think we are, man.... 

It's not arguments or debates that I'm talking about. I like arguments and debates on these boards. It's when members start making personal attacks on other members because they have different opinions that I'm talking about. I wasn't necessarily referring to you when I meant the personal attacks. I was just recommending that you do more monitoring and editing when someone makes a person attack.

Well if you or any other members have any issues with personal attacks on the boards, PM me and I'll go over the situation and do my best to rectify it in any way possible.  Most of us mods don't do too much of editing other's posts.  And dude, you should really learn to stop taking personal attacks so seriously...I've never seen anything so revolting that it deserves moderation.  If someone says, "You're a dumbass," you should have the mental strength to blow that off as a mere joke.  But I mean, if someone's going out of their way to incense someone or call them out, then I'll put a stop to it.  I've never seen anything like that, and I hope I won't.  But you need to get over some of the less severe things people say on the boards, dude.  How are you gonna respond to someone personally attacking you in real life?  People are dumb; they say dumb things.  And you have to be able to blow that **** off if you're gonna ever make it anywhere in life.  Anyways, if you want me or any of the other mods to review something you feel is inappropriate, then by all means, feel free.

vanhalun, you're making it sound like I'm the one offended by these personal attacks. That is not the case. I am acting in the best case of GameSpot users. I would like to point out a few things vanhalun. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone can just blow things off like that. I can, but what if someone gets a personal attack on here and they become depressed about it. You can say, "Oh, you should be able to take a shot, if you can't, you're a wimp." That's is not a mature behavior. That is why I am getting onto you about this matter. Besides, I know some things about monitoring. I'm an officer for four unions. That is why I am getting onto you about it. From what it sounds like, you haven't had that situation happen to you before. Well, I have and let's just say the results have not been pretty. I've been in the middle of some pretty bad arguments that involve a lot of monitoring. People get offended by things, you may not think of it much but someone else might. I just started this whole thing because I didn't want anything to get out of control. Sometimes, when personal attacks are started, some pretty bad arguments are started that involve the need of monitoring and sometimes suspension from GameSpot. I'm just trying to keep that from happening. If you don't agree with me, then fine. I won't do anything from now on, but I just want to remind you that people do sometimes get suspended on here for that kind of behavior and that is what I am trying to prevent.

First, I'm not calling anyone a "wimp" for not being able to take a cheap shot...You HAVE TO be able to take a cheap shot.  It's that simple.  Expect to be flipping burgers and be a social recluse if you're not.

Second, we don't have a problem here...and if we do, I'll take care of it.  I'm not suspending anyone under any circumstances, though.

Hah! I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like that become the CEO of some major big time company and you flipping burgers for a living! I would love to see that.

Okay, I know this is getting a little off-topic but being sensitive doesn't determine the outcome of you're life. It's whether you go out and get a better education. You know, college, tech school, etc.

Secondly, I think the point has been put across since I'm not seeing any more personal attacks on here so I'll lay off. I'm getting sick of arguing this anyway.

Hah! I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like that become the CEO of some major big time company and you flipping burgers for a living! I would love to see that.

Okay, I know this is getting a little off-topic but being sensitive doesn't determine the outcome of you're life. It's whether you go out and get a better education. You know, college, tech school, etc.

Secondly, I think the point has been put across since I'm not seeing any more personal attacks on here so I'll lay off. I'm getting sick of arguing this anyway.

Toucanbird

Right....I never said being sensitive was a bad thing.  I'm a sensitive guy myself.  I meant that being so emotionally rattled by a personal attack will not get you anywhere in your career or relationships.  By the way, I could moderate you for your personal attack, but I won't.

Assinine - possibly. Cheap shot - sure, why not. BS - hardly. Bruschhi IS putting football above his family. please tell us all, how is he putting his family before football ??yamabushi98

How is he putting it above his family?
His friggin' wife told him to play.
If it was a mutual job between the both of them, that's hardly picking one of the other.

This is his job.  Literally. 
He's not saying/showing that one is any better than the other.

Is a cop putting his job over his family everytime he gets into his cruiser?
By your logic, yes.

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Assinine - possibly. Cheap shot - sure, why not. BS - hardly. Bruschhi IS putting football above his family. please tell us all, how is he putting his family before football ??Herrdoktor

How is he putting it above his family?
His friggin' wife told him to play.
If it was a mutual job between the both of them, that's hardly picking one of the other.

This is his job.  Literally. 
He's not saying/showing that one is any better than the other.

Is a cop putting his job over his family everytime he gets into his cruiser?
By your logic, yes.

Great comparison....NOT.  A cop is doing his job and bettering his overall community.  He/she is doing the job for his/her family's livlihood.  Bruschi is playing a game after suffering a stroke.  No one has ever played football with that device in their heart.  And no one knows what to expect.  Moreover, he hasn't even made an impact.  They got owned against McGahee last week and were lucky to come away with a win (as with all other games they've won).  Pats suck this year and Bruschi's not gonna change a damn thing.  No playoffs.  No Bowl.  No point for Bruschi to take a risk. 

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Assinine - possibly. Cheap shot - sure, why not. BS - hardly. Bruschhi IS putting football above his family. please tell us all, how is he putting his family before football ??VanHalun040604

How is he putting it above his family?
His friggin' wife told him to play.
If it was a mutual job between the both of them, that's hardly picking one of the other.

This is his job.  Literally. 
He's not saying/showing that one is any better than the other.

Is a cop putting his job over his family everytime he gets into his cruiser?
By your logic, yes.

Great comparison....NOT.  A cop is doing his job and bettering his overall community.  He/she is doing the job for his/her family's livlihood.  Bruschi is playing a game after suffering a stroke.  No one has ever played football with that device in their heart.  And no one knows what to expect.  Moreover, he hasn't even made an impact.  They got owned against McGahee last week and were lucky to come away with a win (as with all other games they've won).  Pats suck this year and Bruschi's not gonna change a damn thing.  No playoffs.  No Bowl.  No point for Bruschi to take a risk. 

Speaking of Bruschi, did he deserve defensive player of the week or do you guys think that it was skewed from the fact that he came back to football after a stroke.

I think New England will make the playoffs but that's only because they are in the AFC East. Don't expect them to make it past the first round though. It's kind of like the Bears in the NFC North. Sure, they'll probably make the playoffs but that's about it.

Guys, it's his decision. Get over it! If he wants to play with two broken legs and is in a wheelchair, I could care less, let alone a stroke.

Did he come back to soon? Probably, but if that's what he wants to do with his life, so be it. There's nothing we can do to stop him.

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Assinine - possibly. Cheap shot - sure, why not. BS - hardly. Bruschhi IS putting football above his family. please tell us all, how is he putting his family before football ??Toucanbird

How is he putting it above his family?
His friggin' wife told him to play.
If it was a mutual job between the both of them, that's hardly picking one of the other.

This is his job.  Literally. 
He's not saying/showing that one is any better than the other.

Is a cop putting his job over his family everytime he gets into his cruiser?
By your logic, yes.

Great comparison....NOT.  A cop is doing his job and bettering his overall community.  He/she is doing the job for his/her family's livlihood.  Bruschi is playing a game after suffering a stroke.  No one has ever played football with that device in their heart.  And no one knows what to expect.  Moreover, he hasn't even made an impact.  They got owned against McGahee last week and were lucky to come away with a win (as with all other games they've won).  Pats suck this year and Bruschi's not gonna change a damn thing.  No playoffs.  No Bowl.  No point for Bruschi to take a risk. 

Speaking of Bruschi, did he deserve defensive player of the week or do you guys think that it was skewed from the fact that he came back to football after a stroke.

I think New England will make the playoffs but that's only because they are in the AFC East. Don't expect them to make it past the first round though. It's kind of like the Bears in the NFC North. Sure, they'll probably make the playoffs but that's about it.

Guys, it's his decision. Get over it! If he wants to play with two broken legs and is in a wheelchair, I could care less, let alone a stroke.

Did he come back to soon? Probably, but if that's what he wants to do with his life, so be it. There's nothing we can do to stop him.

It was skewed...and that would be entertaining.

Great comparison....NOT.  A cop is doing his job and bettering his overall community. VanHalun040604

:lol: Stick to your 'medical expertise'

This honestly made me laugh.

:lol:

 He/she is doing the job for his/her family's livlihood.  Bruschi is playing a game after suffering a stroke.  No one has ever played football with that device in their heart.  And no one knows what to expect. 

And?  This has to do with what again?  Oh wait...nothing, gotcha.

Moreover, he hasn't even made an impact.  They got owned against McGahee last week and were lucky to come away with a win (as with all other games they've won).  Pats suck this year and Bruschi's not gonna change a damn thing.  No playoffs.  No Bowl.  No point for Bruschi to take a risk. 

This is the first game he has played since the Pro Bowl. 
And actually yes he did make an impact. 
He had the most Patriot tackles that game. 
Nice try though.

McGahee owned...WTF?  He averaged 4.4 yard an attempt.  While that's good, that's hardly 'owning' especially considering they didn't win the game.
And the Bills weren't exactly stopping Cory Dillon, who was playing on a bum ankle.

Honestly, your anti-Patriot mentality has no bounds.  They actually caused turnovers this game and moved the ball when they needed to. 
No wait...it was all luck. :roll:

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Great comparison....NOT.  A cop is doing his job and bettering his overall community. Herrdoktor

:lol: Stick to your 'medical expertise'

This honestly made me laugh.

:lol:

 He/she is doing the job for his/her family's livlihood.  Bruschi is playing a game after suffering a stroke.  No one has ever played football with that device in their heart.  And no one knows what to expect. 

And?  This has to do with what again?  Oh wait...nothing, gotcha.

Moreover, he hasn't even made an impact.  They got owned against McGahee last week and were lucky to come away with a win (as with all other games they've won).  Pats suck this year and Bruschi's not gonna change a damn thing.  No playoffs.  No Bowl.  No point for Bruschi to take a risk. 

This is the first game he has played since the Pro Bowl. 
And actually yes he did make an impact. 
He had the most Patriot tackles that game. 
Nice try though.

McGahee owned...WTF?  He averaged 4.4 yard an attempt.  While that's good, that's hardly 'owning' especially considering they didn't win the game.
And the Bills weren't exactly stopping Cory Dillon, who was playing on a bum ankle.

Honestly, your anti-Patriot mentality has no bounds.  They actually caused turnovers this game and moved the ball when they needed to. 
No wait...it was all luck. :roll:

:shock: Are you calling him unpatriotic? :P