Top 10 Wide Receivers

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ya ur right 2 on 1 bet doesnt sound that fun

Given the size differential (5'9", 185 vs 6'3", 220) between these two, Andre should be able to win the YAC battle. At least you'd think...

Sticking my nose where it doesn't belong, but what about receptions of 20+ yards, 40+ yards, and for 1st-downs?

Smith won some of these battles vs Andre in 2007 with a 55 yr old AND a rookie FA QB! :shock:

JackBurton

Gettinga little too specific though. But I'm thinking we should switch drops with ypc. Or maybe add something else and make it a best-of-7.

why is everyone here obsessed with a tall, puts up big numbers, deep threat WR? i only put Welker on my list because of how he is one of the most special and different WR in the NFL, that can cause more problems for a defense then just a deep threat WR. I know he might not put up the best numbers and look the best, but everything he brings to the field and what hispresenceon the field isn't like any other WR. just myopinion.

but if i had to build a WR core or draft a WR i probablywouldn'tlook at Welker and go for a Moss or Owens type of WR. But you dont knwo how good you have it until you have it, like Brady and the Pats have with Welker.

I see no one considered Richard Simmons... Cmon, if you're looking to humiliate the guy, Richard Simmons is ALWAYS the way to go.detroitpistons0

The bet last season involved the loser using a half-naked Justin Timberlake sig. Ngamer punked out and refused to use it. It has to be Timberlake.

[QUOTE="detroitpistons0"]I see no one considered Richard Simmons... Cmon, if you're looking to humiliate the guy, Richard Simmons is ALWAYS the way to go.wallymartin

The bet last season involved the loser using a half-naked Justin Timberlake sig. Ngamer punked out and refused to use it. It has to be Timberlake.

why is everyone here obsessed with a tall, puts up big numbers, deep threat WR? i only put Welker on my list because of how he is one of the most special and different WR in the NFL, that can cause more problems for a defense then just a deep threat WR. I know he might not put up the best numbers and look the best, but everything he brings to the field and what hispresenceon the field isn't like any other WR. just myopinion.

but if i had to build a WR core or draft a WR i probablywouldn'tlook at Welker and go for a Moss or Owens type of WR. But you dont knwo how good you have it until you have it, like Brady and the Pats have with Welker.

freediro

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[QUOTE="detroitpistons0"]I see no one considered Richard Simmons... Cmon, if you're looking to humiliate the guy, Richard Simmons is ALWAYS the way to go.Bobbles

The bet last season involved the loser using a half-naked Justin Timberlake sig. Ngamer punked out and refused to use it. It has to be Timberlake.

Yeah, but I won't be so accepting of an alternative this time.

Alright, I've seen those that don't believe Colston is #2 but you don't give any reasons why. I'm just wondering, is it because he doesn't yap to the media or is it because he plays for the Saints and you haven't seen him much?

He has the most recptions out of anybody in their first 2 years, that's also with him missing a few games. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he leading the NFL in receiving during his rookie year before he got hurt? He's also done all this without a true #1 WR opposite him and he's taken on that role.

[QUOTE="freediro"]

why is everyone here obsessed with a tall, puts up big numbers, deep threat WR? i only put Welker on my list because of how he is one of the most special and different WR in the NFL, that can cause more problems for a defense then just a deep threat WR. I know he might not put up the best numbers and look the best, but everything he brings to the field and what hispresenceon the field isn't like any other WR. just myopinion.

but if i had to build a WR core or draft a WR i probably wouldn't look at Welker and go for a Moss or Owens type of WR. But you dont knwo how good you have it until you have it, like Brady and the Pats have with Welker.

Bobbles

you probably right, but thats why i said this, "But you dont know how good you have it until you have it, like Brady and the Pats have with Welker."

none the less Welker is still an amazing and special WR

Alright, I've seen those that don't believe Colston is #2 but you don't give any reasons why. I'm just wondering, is it because he doesn't yap to the media or is it because he plays for the Saints and you haven't seen him much?

He has the most recptions out of anybody in their first 2 years, that's also with him missing a few games. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he leading the NFL in receiving during his rookie year before he got hurt? He's also done all this without a true #1 WR opposite him and he's taken on that role.

geaux321

How can anyone put him above proven wrs such as Owens, Chad, Wayne, Fitz etc? Okay so he has the most receptions out of anybody in their first 2 years. So he joined a pass happy team that had Reggie Bush as the running threat for alot of the time. He averaged 12.3 ypc, which isn't that great. Hey Art Monk had plenty of receptions but look how long it took him to go into the HOF, no one was gonna rank him ahead of guys like Irvin. Just like its crazy to put Colston above someone like Owens or Chad. Would you put Wes Welker in the top 10 too? Guy had 112 receptions in a pass happy offense too, with a 10.3 ypc average. Also this whole he don't yap thing....well as you said he has only been in 2 years, so watch out for that...after all he is a WR.

Espurs makes a good point(s). But damnit, why'd he have to mention Monk?! :twisted:

I had the opportunity to see Art Monkplay approx 6-8 games per year for 12-13 years of his 16 year career (granted I was very young during the first few of those years) and at no point in this guy's career did I feel as though I were watching a future HOF'er. Seriously.

In all those playoff seasons and SB runs, he was never the best WR on his own team!!! Sanders, Clark or some other member of the fun bunch, smurfs - or whatever the *** they were called - was the guy killing teams in those games, not Art.

Was it cuz Monk was a member of 'my' team's most hated rival that I didn;t give him any love/respect? -OR- Was it cuz he wasn't even the best WR on his own frackin team?!

Either way, *I* still don;t think he's HOF worthy -- unless you give him an asterisk as first possession WR in HOF. This is BS: 68 TD's on 940 receptions; FIVE 1000 yard seasons out of 16; a 13.5 YPC avg and a spot in the hallowed hall? LMAO! Muck Fonk! He does not deserve to be mentioned w/ the GOAT.

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there was to be a point in here -- As I stated earlier, YPC is the common thread across the different Eras. In some eras the benchmark of great seasons was 40 catches, then 50, 60, 80 and now 100 -- so, can't use overall catches. What you can use is YPC and TD-to-reception ratio. Remember when Keyshawn caught like 106 passes (for Bucs) w/ approx an 11 YPC avg AND only 1 TD and was considered a washed-up scrub. There it is.

BTW- I strongly considered Colston for the #10 spot, but felt his inclusion in top-10 would result in a snub to another WR, so I only went nine deep on my list. Wasn't he like between #12-15 on ESPN (or SI's) list earlier in the year? That's high praise for a player entering his third year who (somehow) nearly went undrafted... it's not like he's under the radar or has been disrespected.

[QUOTE="geaux321"]

Alright, I've seen those that don't believe Colston is #2 but you don't give any reasons why. I'm just wondering, is it because he doesn't yap to the media or is it because he plays for the Saints and you haven't seen him much?

He has the most recptions out of anybody in their first 2 years, that's also with him missing a few games. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he leading the NFL in receiving during his rookie year before he got hurt? He's also done all this without a true #1 WR opposite him and he's taken on that role.

Espurs117

How can anyone put him above proven wrs such as Owens, Chad, Wayne, Fitz etc? Okay so he has the most receptions out of anybody in their first 2 years. So he joined a pass happy team that had Reggie Bush as the running threat for alot of the time. He averaged 12.3 ypc, which isn't that great. Hey Art Monk had plenty of receptions but look how long it took him to go into the HOF, no one was gonna rank him ahead of guys like Irvin. Just like its crazy to put Colston above someone like Owens or Chad. Would you put Wes Welker in the top 10 too? Guy had 112 receptions in a pass happy offense too, with a 10.3 ypc average. Also this whole he don't yap thing....well as you said he has only been in 2 years, so watch out for that...after all he is a WR.

Yes he did join a pass happy team, but wouldn't you think the defenses would be set up to play against the pass the whole time? Last year the #2 WR was David Patten, come on. Yeah, the YPC isn't that great, but he always gets a few screen passes a game, and of course he and Brees have the fade TD route on lock inside the 5, so that will bring it down. Colston goes over the middle a lot too, how many times does TO do that? Oh, and about him yapping, he's making just over $300K this year, he's shown up to all the activities this offseason, and when asked about his contract, "It'll get done when it's time".

[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="geaux321"]

Alright, I've seen those that don't believe Colston is #2 but you don't give any reasons why. I'm just wondering, is it because he doesn't yap to the media or is it because he plays for the Saints and you haven't seen him much?

He has the most recptions out of anybody in their first 2 years, that's also with him missing a few games. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he leading the NFL in receiving during his rookie year before he got hurt? He's also done all this without a true #1 WR opposite him and he's taken on that role.

geaux321

How can anyone put him above proven wrs such as Owens, Chad, Wayne, Fitz etc? Okay so he has the most receptions out of anybody in their first 2 years. So he joined a pass happy team that had Reggie Bush as the running threat for alot of the time. He averaged 12.3 ypc, which isn't that great. Hey Art Monk had plenty of receptions but look how long it took him to go into the HOF, no one was gonna rank him ahead of guys like Irvin. Just like its crazy to put Colston above someone like Owens or Chad. Would you put Wes Welker in the top 10 too? Guy had 112 receptions in a pass happy offense too, with a 10.3 ypc average. Also this whole he don't yap thing....well as you said he has only been in 2 years, so watch out for that...after all he is a WR.

Yes he did join a pass happy team, but wouldn't you think the defenses would be set up to play against the pass the whole time? Last year the #2 WR was David Patten, come on. Yeah, the YPC isn't that great, but he always gets a few screen passes a game, and of course he and Brees have the fade TD route on lock inside the 5, so that will bring it down. Colston goes over the middle a lot too, how many times does TO do that? Oh, and about him yapping, he's making just over $300K this year, he's shown up to all the activities this offseason, and when asked about his contract, "It'll get done when it's time".

Plenty of receivers have that inside the 5 yard route on lock. T.O. is one of them, cept Dallas likes to give it to Witten or Barber every now and then. Of course Colston goes over the middle. A 12.3 ypc means he can't outrun a CB down the field, use your strengths and beat on the LB's. Still to put him above T.O. is just wrong. Oh and yeah whats your point on the yapping? Why would he yap when he is making 300k? So he can not get paid? Pay him, then pray he don't yap...because after 2 or 3 years he will probally want a new contract. That's life in the NFL for WR's.

Plenty of receivers have that inside the 5 yard route on lock. T.O. is one of them, cept Dallas likes to give it to Witten or Barber every now and then. Of course Colston goes over the middle. A 12.3 ypc means he can't outrun a CB down the field, use your strengths and beat on the LB's. Still to put him above T.O. is just wrong. ...Espurs117

Colston: 98 rec; 1.202 yards; 12.3 YPC; 11 TDs -- rec for 20+ yds: 14 ; 40+ yds: 2; 1st downs: 64
Witten: 96 rec; 1,145 yards; 11.9 YPC; 7 TDs -- 20+ yards: 12 ; 40+ yards: 2 ; 1st downs: 56

Move Colston from WR to TE, like the Browns did with Ozzie Newsome - and he'll be considered among the game's best. Again, Colston is a great talent - he's just not in the upper echelon of WR's (yet)

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Plenty of receivers have that inside the 5 yard route on lock. T.O. is one of them, cept Dallas likes to give it to Witten or Barber every now and then. Of course Colston goes over the middle. A 12.3 ypc means he can't outrun a CB down the field, use your strengths and beat on the LB's. Still to put him above T.O. is just wrong. ...JackBurton

Colston: 98 rec; 1.202 yards; 12.3 YPC; 11 TDs -- rec for 20+ yds: 14 ; 40+ yds: 2; 1st downs: 64
Witten: 96 rec; 1,145 yards; 11.9 YPC; 7 TDs -- 20+ yards: 12 ; 40+ yards: 2 ; 1st downs: 56

Move Colston from WR to TE, like the Browns did with Ozzie Newsome - and he'll be considered among the game's best. Again, Colston is a great talent - he's just not in the upper echelon of WR's (yet)

I believe Colston actually entered the league as a TE, but the Saints moved him to WR.