Will Reggie Bush Revive the new orleans fans?

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#1 WAKEFOREST23
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I think he will help sell a lot of tickets with all the hype around him.
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#2 Espurs117
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His already sold tickets, and gained new fans (bandwagoners) his gonan revive that offense, but i think Brees will help in that alot too.
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#3 geaux321
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As Espurs said he's already sold many tickets (most season tickets ever sold this year), his jersey has been a hot item in New Orleans, he's already given plenty of money to help the hurricane victims.  It's really a combination of him, Drew Brees, and the new attitude Sean Payton has brought in.  One good thing after another has happened this off-season for the Saints and it would be icing on the cake if they have a winning season.

In other words the fans have already been revived.
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#4 bobwjr
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This reminds me alot of when Billy Sims went #1 to the Detroit Lions ( another perennial loser ) and he was even better than at Oklahoma. Season ticket sales went thru the roof and Sims jerseys were everywhere. But the bottom line is that after all those years, the Lions are still losers and so are their Southern twins, the Saints.
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#5 Wario_and_Fox
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He will for the first few games until its obvious he's a flop
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#6 geaux321
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He will for the first few games until its obvious he's a flopWario_and_Fox


Care to elaborate?
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#7 xyoojguy
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He already did..
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[QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"]He will for the first few games until its obvious he's a flopgeaux321


Care to elaborate?

Man, I thought people would learn by now not to bad mouth the Saints near geaux.  Reggie Bush is more popular in New Orlenas than George Bush. Bush has already revived Saints fans and now they expect Bush to do his job on the field and ultimately bring the Saints a championship.

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[QUOTE="geaux321"] [QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"]He will for the first few games until its obvious he's a flopaxel360



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Man, I thought people would learn by now not to bad mouth the Saints near geaux.  Reggie Bush is more popular in New Orlenas than George Bush. Bush has already revived Saints fans and now they expect Bush to do his job on the field and ultimately bring the Saints a championship.



Well George Bush is a really really hated guy in New Orleans.
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#10 bgres077
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It's an obvious yes.  Like everyone else said, sales are up and the jersey is flying off the shelves.
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#11 sfgiantsfan8291
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Ya how cant it be a yes.
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The kid's gonna be a stud.
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Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans.  They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft.  That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

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#14 axel360
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Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans.  They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft.  That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

wallymartin

Not only has Bush been helping out the New Orleans from a sentimental standpoint, he's also been providing aid to the people and donating to charity to help the cause.

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#15 Shotfire20
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Well. He already has. But if he doesn't live up to his expectations things will drop pretty quickly. Kinda like Jake Plummer with the Cardinals.
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he will fill more seats and they will make some good money off his jersies
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#17 rl_41
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Yea, the Heisman's hype. The Saints might actually be alright this season, but without a better QB they'll probably end up not making the playoffs.
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#18 bgres077
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They did go out and get a better quarterback, Drew Brees.
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Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans.  They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft.  That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

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Best is a matter of opinion. I could say he's the most overrated, but that spot might belong to Vince Voung. Reggie Bush will be an average back without a great line
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[QUOTE="wallymartin"]

Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans.  They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft.  That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

Wario_and_Fox

Best is a matter of opinion. I could say he's the most overrated, but that spot might belong to Vince Voung. Reggie Bush will be an average back without a great line

I can't wait for you to eat your words. Good line or not, Reggie Bush punished pretty much any team in college. Plus, the line can only block part of the D. The rest of the time he had to use his SICK talent to get by. Which he did. Bush is going to do just fine in the NFL. Just wait and see.

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[QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="wallymartin"]

Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans.  They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft.  That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

nickdastick

Best is a matter of opinion. I could say he's the most overrated, but that spot might belong to Vince Voung. Reggie Bush will be an average back without a great line

I can't wait for you to eat your words. Good line or not, Reggie Bush punished pretty much any team in college. Plus, the line can only block part of the D. The rest of the time he had to use his SICK talent to get by. Which he did. Bush is going to do just fine in the NFL. Just wait and see.

Oh yes, I forgot Reggie Bush was football god. *bows down* *ends sarcasm* College teams=/=Regular teams Good O-Line=/=Bad O-Line Collage Defenses=/=NFL Defenses. If he becomes one of the top 5 backs in any year in his career I'll be surprised. For now I am going to stick to my opinion that he will be a bust that will either only be ok or will be joining Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch(on a side note, did you predict those 2 would be good when they went to the NFL?)
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[QUOTE="nickdastick"][QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="wallymartin"]

Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans. They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft. That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

Wario_and_Fox

Best is a matter of opinion. I could say he's the most overrated, but that spot might belong to Vince Voung. Reggie Bush will be an average back without a great line

I can't wait for you to eat your words. Good line or not, Reggie Bush punished pretty much any team in college. Plus, the line can only block part of the D. The rest of the time he had to use his SICK talent to get by. Which he did. Bush is going to do just fine in the NFL. Just wait and see.

Oh yes, I forgot Reggie Bush was football god. *bows down* *ends sarcasm* College teams=/=Regular teams Good O-Line=/=Bad O-Line Collage Defenses=/=NFL Defenses. If he becomes one of the top 5 backs in any year in his career I'll be surprised. For now I am going to stick to my opinion that he will be a bust that will either only be ok or will be joining Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch(on a side note, did you predict those 2 would be good when they went to the NFL?)



Woah woah woah... Reggie Bush is one damn good athlete, you can't be saying he's only going to be an OK player or a bust.  He tore it up against some of the best College teams.  He's not going to lose his speed, strength and vision just because he is now in the NFL.  IMO you're just being a hater because Bush is getting so much praise... but when you make some of the moves that he did you deserve to be held up on a pedestal.
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[QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="nickdastick"][QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="wallymartin"]

Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans. They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft. That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

bgres077

Best is a matter of opinion. I could say he's the most overrated, but that spot might belong to Vince Voung. Reggie Bush will be an average back without a great line

I can't wait for you to eat your words. Good line or not, Reggie Bush punished pretty much any team in college. Plus, the line can only block part of the D. The rest of the time he had to use his SICK talent to get by. Which he did. Bush is going to do just fine in the NFL. Just wait and see.

Oh yes, I forgot Reggie Bush was football god. *bows down* *ends sarcasm* College teams=/=Regular teams Good O-Line=/=Bad O-Line Collage Defenses=/=NFL Defenses. If he becomes one of the top 5 backs in any year in his career I'll be surprised. For now I am going to stick to my opinion that he will be a bust that will either only be ok or will be joining Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch(on a side note, did you predict those 2 would be good when they went to the NFL?)



Woah woah woah... Reggie Bush is one damn good athlete, you can't be saying he's only going to be an OK player or a bust.  He tore it up against some of the best College teams.  He's not going to lose his speed, strength and vision just because he is now in the NFL.  IMO you're just being a hater because Bush is getting so much praise... but when you make some of the moves that he did you deserve to be held up on a pedestal.

  There was another runningback from the pac-10 who was a monster a couple yrs ago and he plays for Arizona now...............JJ Arrington...........enough said.
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Correct, JJ Arringtonisn't doing much in the pros.  But I don't think anyone would put Arrington on the same level as Reggie Bush based on their college careers.
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Reggie Bush will be just fine in the NFL imo..

For those people who say Reggie Bush can't take a pounding in the pros', look he is around the same size as Tiki Barber but Reggie Bush is 10x times faster and a better receiver/ball returner.

So what if Reggie Bush play with a great o-line in college but once he got pass his blockers it was all him, dodging and out running defenders. Reggie Bush never got touched till he was 15 yards down the field most of the time..

Even if some defenses manage to stop him he can always play receiver and return kicks..

Reggie Bush will be ok just as long as he don't break a leg I say.

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#26 bobwjr
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Correct, JJ Arringtonisn't doing much in the pros.  But I don't think anyone would put Arrington on the same level as Reggie Bush based on their college careers.
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Arrington was over 2000 yds and 7 yards per carry and about the same size.
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#27 bobwjr
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[QUOTE="bgres077"]Correct, JJ Arringtonisn't doing much in the pros.  But I don't think anyone would put Arrington on the same level as Reggie Bush based on their college careers.
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Arrington was over 2000 yds and 7 yards per carry and about the same size.

Oh yeah and he was my #2 pick in last year's fantasy draft. My secret weapon shot blanks.
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Reggie Bush will be just fine in the NFL imo..

For those people who say Reggie Bush can't take a pounding in the pros', look he is around the same size as Tiki Barber but Reggie Bush is 10x times faster and a better receiver/ball returner.

So what if Reggie Bush play with a great o-line in college but once he got pass his blockers it was all him, dodging and out running defenders. Reggie Bush never got touched till he was 15 yards down the field most of the time..

Even if some defenses manage to stop him he can always play receiver and return kicks..

Reggie Bush will be ok just as long as he don't break a leg I say.

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lol if all he can do is return kicks and punts he will be knowns as a bust,especially  after being drafted 2nd overall and all the hype.

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[QUOTE="xyoojguy"]

Reggie Bush will be just fine in the NFL imo..

For those people who say Reggie Bush can't take a pounding in the pros', look he is around the same size as Tiki Barber but Reggie Bush is 10x times faster and a better receiver/ball returner.

So what if Reggie Bush play with a great o-line in college but once he got pass his blockers it was all him, dodging and out running defenders. Reggie Bush never got touched till he was 15 yards down the field most of the time..

Even if some defenses manage to stop him he can always play receiver and return kicks..

Reggie Bush will be ok just as long as he don't break a leg I say.

Espurs117

lol if all he can do is return kicks and punts he will be knowns as a bust,especially  after being drafted 2nd overall and all the hype.

Yes but what is this "REGGIE BUSH IS THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Crap? He has not proven himself in the pros, and I am entitled to my opinion that he will bust He'll end up like Desmond Howard
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I just want to know how in the world can you compare Reggie Bush to JJ Arrington.  They weren't even close together on the level of play in college.
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[QUOTE="bgres077"] [QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="nickdastick"][QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="wallymartin"]

Reggie Bush is a huge uplift for the city of New Orleans. They had a losing team that looked like it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, and then BAM they get the best and most exciting player in the draft. That's the kind of thing that gives people hope.

bobwjr

Best is a matter of opinion. I could say he's the most overrated, but that spot might belong to Vince Voung. Reggie Bush will be an average back without a great line

I can't wait for you to eat your words. Good line or not, Reggie Bush punished pretty much any team in college. Plus, the line can only block part of the D. The rest of the time he had to use his SICK talent to get by. Which he did. Bush is going to do just fine in the NFL. Just wait and see.

Oh yes, I forgot Reggie Bush was football god. *bows down* *ends sarcasm* College teams=/=Regular teams Good O-Line=/=Bad O-Line Collage Defenses=/=NFL Defenses. If he becomes one of the top 5 backs in any year in his career I'll be surprised. For now I am going to stick to my opinion that he will be a bust that will either only be ok or will be joining Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch(on a side note, did you predict those 2 would be good when they went to the NFL?)



Woah woah woah... Reggie Bush is one damn good athlete, you can't be saying he's only going to be an OK player or a bust.  He tore it up against some of the best College teams.  He's not going to lose his speed, strength and vision just because he is now in the NFL.  IMO you're just being a hater because Bush is getting so much praise... but when you make some of the moves that he did you deserve to be held up on a pedestal.

  There was another runningback from the pac-10 who was a monster a couple yrs ago and he plays for Arizona now...............JJ Arrington...........enough said.

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

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Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

axel360

I agree.  Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line.  Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

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[QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

wallymartin

I agree.  Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line.  Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards
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[QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

Wario_and_Fox

I agree. Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line. Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards



Then how come Deuce was able to get 1000+ the last couple of seasons??  I know the Saints o-line is weak, but you make it seem as if they have nobody playing there.  Right now the o-line stands with:

LT- Jammal Brown- Excelled in is rookie year and should transition smoothly to the left side.
LG- Montrae Holland- Underrated guy and should do very well.
C- Jeff Faine- As long as he stays healthy he can be better than LaCharles Bentley.
RG- Jermane Mayberry- Had a bad year last year, but hopefully he can regain Pro Bowl form.
RT- Jon Stinchcomb- This is really the only big hole that I see, I'm not sure that Stinchcomb is ready for the NFL, but he should be, if he doesn't start than Jamar Nesbit could fill in here.

Please give me your opinion on these guys, if you know anything about them.
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[QUOTE="geaux321"]
[QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

Wario_and_Fox

I agree. Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line. Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards



Then how come Deuce was able to get 1000+ the last couple of seasons??  I know the Saints o-line is weak, but you make it seem as if they have nobody playing there.  Right now the o-line stands with:

LT- Jammal Brown- Excelled in is rookie year and should transition smoothly to the left side.
LG- Montrae Holland- Underrated guy and should do very well.
C- Jeff Faine- As long as he stays healthy he can be better than LaCharles Bentley.
RG- Jermane Mayberry- Had a bad year last year, but hopefully he can regain Pro Bowl form.
RT- Jon Stinchcomb- This is really the only big hole that I see, I'm not sure that Stinchcomb is ready for the NFL, but he should be, if he doesn't start than Jamar Nesbit could fill in here.

Please give me your opinion on these guys, if you know anything about them.

I don't know much about them, but according to stats they had an awful O-Line. And you can't honestly believe Faine could be better then LeCharles Bentley
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#36 nationyde5
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To answer the question, yes bush has done this already. As for being a bust, i think he's in a situation where he is set up to fail. People seem to think he's gonna score every time he gets the ball, basically what I'm saying is that if does anything short of end up in canton, all the bush haters will be saying " I told you so". It's like with yao ming, he is one of the top five centers in the NBA, double-double every night, but because he was hyped so much it seems like he's a total flop.
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#37 xyoojguy
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He'll be just fine... He has too much upside and can help a team in so many ways to be a bust.. Worse case scenario, he will a decent career but no bust unless he has a career ending injury..
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#38 WAKEFOREST23
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I see my topic has caused a great debate....I think IMO that he will do decent this year you know not all star good but not bad either, then after he learns the play book and gets some time in the NFL he will start showing some great talent.
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[QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="geaux321"]
[QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

Wario_and_Fox

I agree. Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line. Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards



Then how come Deuce was able to get 1000+ the last couple of seasons?? I know the Saints o-line is weak, but you make it seem as if they have nobody playing there. Right now the o-line stands with:

LT- Jammal Brown- Excelled in is rookie year and should transition smoothly to the left side.
LG- Montrae Holland- Underrated guy and should do very well.
C- Jeff Faine- As long as he stays healthy he can be better than LaCharles Bentley.
RG- Jermane Mayberry- Had a bad year last year, but hopefully he can regain Pro Bowl form.
RT- Jon Stinchcomb- This is really the only big hole that I see, I'm not sure that Stinchcomb is ready for the NFL, but he should be, if he doesn't start than Jamar Nesbit could fill in here.

Please give me your opinion on these guys, if you know anything about them.

I don't know much about them, but according to stats they had an awful O-Line. And you can't honestly believe Faine could be better then LeCharles Bentley



Yes they were pretty bad last year, but Jacox (starter at LG) and Mayberry went through injuries last year.  And yes I think Faine could be better than Bentley, Bentley is a head-case and ripped the Saints after he left, which makes me glad he is gone.  Faine was a first round pick and he's never been heatlhy enough for someone to gauge on how good he actually is.
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#40 Wario_and_Fox
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[QUOTE="geaux321"] [QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="geaux321"]
[QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

Wario_and_Fox

I agree. Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line. Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards



Then how come Deuce was able to get 1000+ the last couple of seasons?? I know the Saints o-line is weak, but you make it seem as if they have nobody playing there. Right now the o-line stands with:

LT- Jammal Brown- Excelled in is rookie year and should transition smoothly to the left side.
LG- Montrae Holland- Underrated guy and should do very well.
C- Jeff Faine- As long as he stays healthy he can be better than LaCharles Bentley.
RG- Jermane Mayberry- Had a bad year last year, but hopefully he can regain Pro Bowl form.
RT- Jon Stinchcomb- This is really the only big hole that I see, I'm not sure that Stinchcomb is ready for the NFL, but he should be, if he doesn't start than Jamar Nesbit could fill in here.

Please give me your opinion on these guys, if you know anything about them.

I don't know much about them, but according to stats they had an awful O-Line. And you can't honestly believe Faine could be better then LeCharles Bentley



Yes they were pretty bad last year, but Jacox (starter at LG) and Mayberry went through injuries last year.  And yes I think Faine could be better than Bentley, Bentley is a head-case and ripped the Saints after he left, which makes me glad he is gone.  Faine was a first round pick and he's never been heatlhy enough for someone to gauge on how good he actually is.

Yes, but on the field Bentley's position is going to be hard spot to get back to his standards, its not happenning anytime soon, he's one of the best centers in the league
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[QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

Wario_and_Fox

I agree.  Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line.  Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards

We haven't said that. Plus, you can't compare Arrington to Bush. Bush was compared to Gayle Sayers! They don't just do that every year. I know sometimes people get some hype but not Gayle Sayers hype! Plus, we aren't saying he is a God or will make huge yards. We are just saying he will do well because he is that kind of player. Look at Barry Sanders, he had a pretty mediocre line but he was good enough to get big yards. Bush will do the same.

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[QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

nickdastick

I agree.  Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line.  Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards

We haven't said that. Plus, you can't compare Arrington to Bush. Bush was compared to Gayle Sayers! They don't just do that every year. I know sometimes people get some hype but not Gayle Sayers hype! Plus, we aren't saying he is a God or will make huge yards. We are just saying he will do well because he is that kind of player. Look at Barry Sanders, he had a pretty mediocre line but he was good enough to get big yards. Bush will do the same.

As a fact, you cannot say that. Just because in college he was compared to Gale Sayers doesn't mean their one of the best backs ever 1.He hasn't had to play with a bad O-Line and 2. Anyone remember Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch?
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#43 bgres077
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Wario and Fox.... you aren't getting the point.  Nobody in this Union has said that Bush is the best back ever.  All we're saying is he has the potential to become one of the better backs in the league.
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#44 axel360
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[QUOTE="nickdastick"][QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

Wario_and_Fox

I agree.  Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line.  Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards

We haven't said that. Plus, you can't compare Arrington to Bush. Bush was compared to Gayle Sayers! They don't just do that every year. I know sometimes people get some hype but not Gayle Sayers hype! Plus, we aren't saying he is a God or will make huge yards. We are just saying he will do well because he is that kind of player. Look at Barry Sanders, he had a pretty mediocre line but he was good enough to get big yards. Bush will do the same.

As a fact, you cannot say that. Just because in college he was compared to Gale Sayers doesn't mean their one of the best backs ever 1.He hasn't had to play with a bad O-Line and 2. Anyone remember Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch?

That's because Leaf and Couch weren't exactly surrounded by talentend players. We're not saying Bush is gonna be an automatic Hall of Famer, we're just saying that he's gonna be good and Bush is surronded by good players like Drew Brees, Joe Horn, Deuce McAllister, a defense that's getting better, and an offensive line that works together.

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[QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="nickdastick"][QUOTE="Wario_and_Fox"][QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="axel360"]

Arrington couldn't do much in the NFL because he was playing behind a Cardinals offensive line that couldn't block anyone.

axel360

I agree. Arrington has only played one year and that was behind a terrible o-line. Arrington will probably find himself on another team by the time his contract expires, and I think he'll be a good pick-up at that time.

Cha-ching wtih Reggie Bush. No O-Line=no monster, no god of football, no Michael Jordon. Your all acting like every year he'll rush over 2,500 receive over 2,000, and kick return a lot of yards

We haven't said that. Plus, you can't compare Arrington to Bush. Bush was compared to Gayle Sayers! They don't just do that every year. I know sometimes people get some hype but not Gayle Sayers hype! Plus, we aren't saying he is a God or will make huge yards. We are just saying he will do well because he is that kind of player. Look at Barry Sanders, he had a pretty mediocre line but he was good enough to get big yards. Bush will do the same.

As a fact, you cannot say that. Just because in college he was compared to Gale Sayers doesn't mean their one of the best backs ever 1.He hasn't had to play with a bad O-Line and 2. Anyone remember Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch?

That's because Leaf and Couch weren't exactly surrounded by talentend players. We're not saying Bush is gonna be an automatic Hall of Famer, we're just saying that he's gonna be good and Bush is surronded by good players like Drew Brees, Joe Horn, Deuce McAllister, a defense that's getting better, and an offensive line that works together.

You forgot to mention a new coach who brings a whole new mentality to the team.
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#46 axel360
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Oh yeah, and that too.
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The Saints are the Southern Fried version of the Detroit Lions. Both have crappy owners, a bleak history and future.

I felt sorry for a temendous talent like Barry Sanders playing with a bunch losers and in the end so did he and quit. Is Bush the 2nd coming? We'll all see shortly.

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#48 geaux321
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The Saints are the Southern Fried version of the Detroit Lions. Both have crappy owners, a bleak history and future.

I felt sorry for a temendous talent like Barry Sanders playing with a bunch losers and in the end so did he and quit. Is Bush the 2nd coming? We'll all see shortly.

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You're right about the owner and history, but the future is nothing but filled with great things to come.
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#49 bobwjr
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[QUOTE="bobwjr"]

The Saints are the Southern Fried version of the Detroit Lions. Both have crappy owners, a bleak history and future.

I felt sorry for a temendous talent like Barry Sanders playing with a bunch losers and in the end so did he and quit. Is Bush the 2nd coming? We'll all see shortly.

geaux321
You're right about the owner and history, but the future is nothing but filled with great things to come.

Good luck because that's what it will take.
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#50 Wario_and_Fox
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[QUOTE="geaux321"][QUOTE="bobwjr"]

The Saints are the Southern Fried version of the Detroit Lions. Both have crappy owners, a bleak history and future.

I felt sorry for a temendous talent like Barry Sanders playing with a bunch losers and in the end so did he and quit. Is Bush the 2nd coming? We'll all see shortly.

bobwjr
You're right about the owner and history, but the future is nothing but filled with great things to come.

Good luck because that's what it will take.

If you call joining Tim Couch and Ryan Leaf a great thing, then yes We all knoew that if Reggie was on a team you hated(which is not like me, I like the Saints) you'd say he was overrated as well