Your Top 5 Quarterbacks of all time

[QUOTE="KFrandsen2"]i agree that bart starr is the best qb in packers history but that shouldn't take anything away from favre's careerdouble_dos

Lol that you would quote JackBurton to support an opinion that is the exact opposite of his. Soon, Jack will come in here and tell you about the Mel Blount rule, and how QBs of Starr's era were generally better than QBs of today, simply because defensive backs in the olden days could get away with anything short of anal probing. It is a lost easier to be a Qb now than it was back then.

LOL! I think I've quoted the Mel Blount Rule to death... I never said all QB's pf 60-70s were better than today's - what I did say/mean is that their achievements are undervalued because of the the rules of the the era - we're caught up in overall stats rather than the ones that truly mattter. Bart Starr's yet-to-be-broken 104.8 passer rating, 9-1 record and only 3 INTs in 213 pass attempts in the post-season (particularly in that era) is nothing short of amazing. I LOL at those who say Favre > Starr. What a joke!
I try to look at the big picture as objectively as possible -- I have no love for the Packers, Favre or Starr.

FACT #1: only three QBs post a (season) Passer Rating above 100 in the entire decade of 1960s.

Milt Plum, (Browns) 1960: 110.4 -- NFL avg in 1960: 65.2 -- Plum's 110.4 >69.3% of NFL
Y.A. Tittle, (Giants) 1963: 104.8 -- NFL avg in 1963: 71.1 -- Tittle's 104.8 > 46.2% of NFL
Bart Starr, (Packers) 1966: 105.0 -- NFL avg in 1966: 67.4 -- Starr's 105.0 >55.8% of NFL
Bart Starr, (Packers) 1968: 104.3 -- NFL avg in 1968: 67.7 -- Starr's 104.3 >52.0% of NFL
Bart Starr led NFL in Passer Rating FIVE times during decade of 1960s: 62, 64, 66, 68, 69
Starr was also the only QB to lead NFL in Passer Rating more than once during decade.

FACT #2: only TWO QBs post a (season) Passer Rating above 100 in theentiredecade of 1970s.

Roger Staubach, 1971: 104.8 -- NFL average in 1971: 62.2 -- Staubach's 104.8 >68.5% of NFL
Ken Stabler, (Oak.) 1976: 103.4 -- NFL avg in 1976: 67.0 -- Stabler's 103.4 >54.3% of NFL
Roger Staubach led NFL in Passer Rating FOUR times during decade of 1970s: 71, 73, 78, 79
Ken Anderson was only other QB to lead NFL in Passer Rating more than once during decade: 74-75

FACT #3: only TWO QBs post a (season) Passer Rating above 100 in the entire decade of 1980s

Dan Marino, 1984: 108.9 -- NFL avg in 1984: 76.1 -- Marino's 108.9 > 43.1% of NFL
Joe Montana, 1987: 102.1 -- NFL avg in 1987: 75.2 -- Montana's 102.1 > 35.8% of NFL
Joe Montana, 1989: 112.4 -- NFL avg in 1989: 75.6 -- Montana's 112.4 > 49.2% of NFL
Montana & Ken Anderson are only two QB's to lead NFL in Passer Rating more than once during the decade, each doing so twice. Anderson leads NFL in 81-82 with 98.4 & 95.3 respectively.

FACT #4:1990 to 2007, (except 1996) Passer Rating leader posts a 100+ score every season. Steve Young led NFL in Passer Rating SIX times from 1991-1997, posting a 100+ score FIVE times. He has 3rd highest Passer Rating of 1998 with a 101.1 rating, giving him a total of SIX 100+ seasons. No other QBs lead NFL more than once during the decade of 1990s.
P. Manning leads in Passer Rating three times from 2004-2006, with a mind-numbing 121.1 in 2004.

During this time span (1990-present) NINETEEN different starting QBs post a 100+ Passer Rating: Warner (99, 01), Brady, Brees, Chandler, Cunningham, Culpepper, Garrard, Green, Griese, Harbaugh, Kelly, P. Manning, McNabb, McNair, Palmer, Pennington, Roethlisberger, Testaverde and S. Young

Where is Favre on the list? He isn't on it. In 17 seasons, his best rating was in 1995 with a 99.5 finish. As always, perhaps if he'd thrown fewer INTs...(insert Favre excuse here)

Given the rules changes and stats shown above -- anyone still willing to dis' Starr's accomplishments?

CIass dismissed.

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NOTE: The final column (1960-1990) shows the QB's rating as a percentage of the league-wide rating. It's this number that trumps raw passer rating, puts it into historical context and tells us who truly had the better passing season.

This number shows us, for example, that Stabler's 103.4 in 1976 was more impressive than Marino's 108.9 in his record-breaking '84 season and Manning's 121.4 in his record-breaking '04 season. Stabler exceeded the league-wide passer rating by 54.3% in 1976. Marino exceeded the league-wide rating by 43.1% in 1984 and Manning by 46.6% in 2004.

Based on this formula, the top-5 Passer Rating performances from 1960-2004 are as follows, in order:
Milt Plum, 1960; Roger Staubach, 1971; Bart Starr, 1966; Ken Stabler, 1976; Bart Starr, 1968

(I didn't list these %'s for 1990-present bc there are too many QB's with 100+ seasons.)

I still wonder whether or not Burton really takes the time to type those walls-o-text.detroitpistons0

As a matter of fact, I do. The post (above) took approx 20mins to fact-find, check for errors or omissions and type. No cut & pasting... straight typin homie :P

[QUOTE="detroitpistons0"]I still wonder whether or not Burton really takes the time to type those walls-o-text.JackBurton

As a matter of fact, I do. The post (above) took approx 20mins to fact-find, check for errors or omissions and type. No cut & pasting... straight typin homie :P

At least you care about the well-being of your posts. Now I understand why they are always so... neat, clean, and crisp. :D

This is tough. I'll give it a shot.

1.Montana

2.Elway

3. Marino

4.Favre

5. Unitas

Bradshaw, Aikman, Tarkenton, Staubach, just missed my top 5.