3DS... a mere gimmick.. or something more?

If the rumor about the player being able to enable/disable or at least adjust the level of "3D-ness" is true then the 3D-feature can only be little more than a gimmick and not really add to or affect the gameplay in any way. It's basically reduced to a "neat" visual effect. How could it be anything else if you can play the game just as well with the effect toned down or disabled?

I don't believe that Nintendo would design a new DS that only add 3D visuals and no real new gameplay feature.... the question is what.

Could we get a "holographic control system" where you can actually interact with the 3D visuals with 3D controls, a sort of 3D touch system where you can touch the 3D objects where they appear to be and you can actually not only move objects on a 2D plane as with the DS but in full 3D, push and pull and everything.
That could be cool but then the 3D visuals could not be disabled or it would b, so I guess if the rumor above is true then this is not it...

It's been said to be powerful as a gamecube, and 100% backwards compatible with all DS games. It's a totally new next-generation handheld.

IMO, its going to be a gimmick. Nintendo is known for that. Like in super mario, the clouds will stand out at you, and when u hit an enemy it flies off the screen. Stuff like that.

IMO, its going to be a gimmick. Nintendo is known for that. Like in super mario, the clouds will stand out at you, and when u hit an enemy it flies off the screen. Stuff like that.

martinX3X

I really don't see how 3D can be interactive like touchscreens are. It's nothing more than visual effects. So as of right now I see it as a gimmick, but hopefully, Nintendo does something unique with it.

IMO, its going to be a gimmick. Nintendo is known for that. Like in super mario, the clouds will stand out at you, and when u hit an enemy it flies off the screen. Stuff like that.

martinX3X

you cant turn the 3d off on the 3ds just make it less powerfull like changing the brightness

I was also hoping the 3D would affect gameplay and be innovative in some way, and not just be a visual thing. Some people have suggested that maybe it can be turned off and on because it is only needed for 3DS games, but would hinder regular DS games, which kinda makes sense.

you cant turn the 3d off on the 3ds just make it less powerfull like changing the brightness

uriyasama

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you cant turn the 3d off on the 3ds just make it less powerfull like changing the brightness

Ovirew

It's not meant to enhance gameplay, and I don't see how it could. It's just a visual effect to make games more interesting and fun to play.

I really don't like 3D. Don't like it in games don't like it in movies. I would rather developers take the time/money they are going to use to make the game 3d and make the game better. Use the extra processing power to improve the game (ex: AI, number of characters on screen). I am sorry, but 3D is really lame. I love all of my Nintendo handhelds to death but this just scares me........ a lot.

Unfortunately, knowing Nintendo, I am going to call this gimmick. I would be so much more interested if there was no 3D but it was still heavily rumoured to be very powerful.

I really don't like 3D. Don't like it in games don't like it in movies. I would rather developers take the time/money they are going to use to make the game 3d and make the game better. Use the extra processing power to improve the game (ex: AI, number of characters on screen). I am sorry, but 3D is really lame. I love all of my Nintendo handhelds to death but this just scares me........ a lot.

limpbizkit818

3D does not take that much effort to develop for. In fact 3D solutions on the PC can actually work with many games that were never designed for it. It also shouldn't put a significantly greater strain on the hardware.

3D does not take that much effort to develop for. In fact 3D solutions on the PC can actually work with many games that were never designed for it. It also shouldn't put a significantly greater strain on the hardware.

ThePlothole

True. Unfortunately this makes me believe that the 3D implementation of the 3DS won't really bring anything new to the table.

I hope 3DS gives us more than just new visuals, Nintendo is usually all about the gameplay, I hope we get something new in the controls department too.

well lets be honest nintendos handhelds really dont have any problem with games they have a massive selection compared to say the psp the only reason i havnt bought a ds yet was because i am waiting for the next gen of handhelds to come out, its just a natural eveloution for the games to get good looking as technology advances and 3d seems to be part of this and as for myself i would much prefer to see something like 3d become widespread compared to say motion controls at least 3d wont (hopefully) spawn a uncountable amount of casual games

True. Unfortunately this makes me believe that the 3D implementation of the 3DS won't really bring anything new to the table.

I hope 3DS gives us more than just new visuals, Nintendo is usually all about the gameplay, I hope we get something new in the controls department too.

yellonet

It's all but confirmed that there will be an analog stick. There may be an accelerometer as well.

I think it will be a gimmick. 3D on a handheld just seems wasted. How well will you be able to enjoy the 3D while on the go? Will the 3D even be that good? There are very many questions surrounding it and I would rather not have 3D on a handheld.SF_KiLLaMaN

3D actually makes more sense on a handheld then it does in the living room ATM. Because the device is generally used by a single person at a controlled viewing angle you can employ an autostereoscopic display without the limitations of such technology becoming a problem.

It's not meant to enhance gameplay, and I don't see how it could. It's just a visual effect to make games more interesting and fun to play.

Falconthefirst

I think it will be a gimmick. 3D on a handheld just seems wasted. How well will you be able to enjoy the 3D while on the go? Will the 3D even be that good? There are very many questions surrounding it and I would rather not have 3D on a handheld.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I think it will be a gimmick. 3D on a handheld just seems wasted. How well will you be able to enjoy the 3D while on the go? Will the 3D even be that good? There are very many questions surrounding it and I would rather not have 3D on a handheld.Ovirew

Word. I only use my stereo if I am having a party or if I want surround sound for my TV (movies or games) my iPod and Bose headphones are higher quality anyways. :P I also enjoy my DS more inside either at mine or the significant other's house. On the go there is to much glare from the sun.

I am ready for this new handheld and am so pumped. I am just scared that it is going to be more annoying than entertaining.

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True. Unfortunately this makes me believe that the 3D implementation of the 3DS won't really bring anything new to the table.

I hope 3DS gives us more than just new visuals, Nintendo is usually all about the gameplay, I hope we get something new in the controls department too.

ThePlothole

It's all but confirmed that there will be an analog stick. There may be an accelerometer as well.

That's good, but what I really meant with "new controls" - sorry for not being clear on this - was something completely new that hasn't been done before, such as the controls for the Wii.
And no, I'm not saying we should have Wii controls for the 3DS ;)

yellonet

Technically the controls for the Wii were not completely new. It mostly just popularized them.

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That's good, but what I really meant with "new controls" - sorry for not being clear on this - was something completely new that hasn't been done before, such as the controls for the Wii.
And no, I'm not saying we should have Wii controls for the 3DS ;)

ThePlothole

Technically the controls for the Wii were not completely new. It mostly just popularized them.

Of course not, but they hadn't been used in such a fashion for console gaming before. So while it wasn't a technological breaktrhough, it was a breakthrough in how games can be controlled.

yellonet

Actually there was a game console that came out in 2004 called the XaviXPort. Like the Wii it was built around motion controls. In some ways it's even more advanced. You can see a video of it here. (note: I do not agree with his assertion that the Wii was a "rip off" of this)

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Of course not, but they hadn't been used in such a fashion for console gaming before. So while it wasn't a technological breaktrhough, it was a breakthrough in how games can be controlled.

ThePlothole

Actually there was a game console that came out in 2004 called the XaviXPort. Like the Wii it was built around motion controls. In some ways it's even more advanced. You can see a video of it here. (note: I do not agree with his assertion that the Wii was a "rip off" of this)

While looking up something else, I happened upon this article. It talks about a pressure sensitive touch technology. And what's interesting is that company who licensed it actually supplies touchscreens to Nintendo.

This certainly isn't confirmation of anything. But who knows, maybe the 3DS will bring something fairly innovative in terms of control.

While looking up something else, I happened upon this article. It talks about a pressure sensitive touch technology. And what's interesting is that company who licensed it actually supplies touchscreens to Nintendo.

This certainly isn't confirmation of anything. But who knows, maybe the 3DS will bring something fairly innovative in terms of control.

ThePlothole