3DS will defintely cost more then DSi (confirmed)

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#1 ACL0V3R
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Here is the link: http://www.nintendoeverything.com/43089/and another: http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127253

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#2 Kenny789
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Hmm most likely priced at $200. Funny how it could be the same price as a Wii yet seems stronger :?
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#3 Cruse34
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Well whatta know? No (8)) its going to cost more, why on earth would it be less?

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We all know that the 3DS was going to cost more than the DSi,i just want the full price on the system
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I hope it's around $229-249.

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#6 railroberto2007
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why wouldnt you hope for 199? if it is 199 and i have 30 dollars left over?
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Where I live the price of the 3DS will probably be equal to $300-350 (greedy bastards), I don't care though, it's still a first day buy for me.

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And the DSi just went down to $129 in Japan and Europe.

And it will eventually in America.

So, $169-$199 is entirely likely

The DSi's wouldn't get a price drop now, they're still selling well, and they wouldn't discontinue the DS Lite brand in Japan and Europe if they didn't have big plans for 3DS soon

Guys, do you think they would kill the Lite, which at $129 made them a lot of profit, and cut profits on the DSi which was $169, in argueable the second and third most important gaming regions if the 3DS wasn't coming out soon? No they wouldn't.

I mean really, if they knew the 3DS was on track for March 2011 for Japan, NA, EU they would have kept DS Lite at $129, Kept DSi at $169 and kept XL @ $189 in Europe and Japan until at least January 2011

You don't destory 6-8 months of profits for nothing.

I'm guessin 3DS this fall (as i keep guessing) for $199 max

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Hmm most likely priced at $200. Funny how it could be the same price as a Wii yet seems stronger :?Kenny789
A portable system with the same or more power than a home console will always be priced higher unless you want a inferior device in capabilities. And don't forget that you can buy a console but to work it requires external cables, connection to an electric outlet (oviously) and a tv. For a portable you have a battery and everything is intergrated.
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I won't be surprise if the 3DS receive price of $249.99. I think the lower it can be is $200.00
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[QUOTE="Kenny789"]Hmm most likely priced at $200. Funny how it could be the same price as a Wii yet seems stronger :?soulreaper-4
A portable system with the same or more power than a home console will always be priced higher unless you want a inferior device in capabilities. And don't forget that you can buy a console but to work it requires external cables, connection to an electric outlet (oviously) and a tv. For a portable you have a battery and everything is intergrated.

What makes you think its more powerful than the Wii?

Its running in 800x240, or 400x240 for each eye, so its technically not superior to 640x480 right? I'm not sure

Plus, don't get me wrong the 3DS graphics look good but not Wii good. the MGS3 tech demo had no gameplay but looked on par with PS2. Nothing i've seen looks as good as Super Mario Galaxy

Additionally the 3DS isn't as powerful as the GameCube. I know this. Why? Coz when nintendo announced the 3DS in March they said its "roughly" as powerful as the GameCube. "Roughly" is the keyword. If it was more powerful, they'd say so. Kinda like the DS is roughly as powerful as the N64, but its CPU speed is slower yet it has more VRAM than the N64. Advantages and Disadvantages.

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Yeah, I'm expecting $200, at most $250. That's the cost of the most expensive Nintendo system ever the N64 and Wii, though the Wii included a pack-in game.

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really? i thought it would cost less.... lol jk... ill be surprised if it's $200... i expect $250-$300
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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Kenny789"]Hmm most likely priced at $200. Funny how it could be the same price as a Wii yet seems stronger :?darth-pyschosis

A portable system with the same or more power than a home console will always be priced higher unless you want a inferior device in capabilities. And don't forget that you can buy a console but to work it requires external cables, connection to an electric outlet (oviously) and a tv. For a portable you have a battery and everything is intergrated.

What makes you think its more powerful than the Wii?

Its running in 800x240, or 400x240 for each eye, so its technically not superior to 640x480 right? I'm not sure

Plus, don't get me wrong the 3DS graphics look good but not Wii good. the MGS3 tech demo had no gameplay but looked on par with PS2. Nothing i've seen looks as good as Super Mario Galaxy

Additionally the 3DS isn't as powerful as the GameCube. I know this. Why? Coz when nintendo announced the 3DS in March they said its "roughly" as powerful as the GameCube. "Roughly" is the keyword. If it was more powerful, they'd say so. Kinda like the DS is roughly as powerful as the N64, but its CPU speed is slower yet it has more VRAM than the N64. Advantages and Disadvantages.

I never said the 3DS was more powerful than a Wii. What i meant was that if portable system is powerful or onpar with a console it will always cost more. That's why i said portable not 3DS.
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#15 JAB991
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I'm expecting $180. I don't think Nintendo would release a handheld for $200, especially when that's pretty much the same price as their console ATM.

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I hope it isn't too much more

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"] A portable system with the same or more power than a home console will always be priced higher unless you want a inferior device in capabilities. And don't forget that you can buy a console but to work it requires external cables, connection to an electric outlet (oviously) and a tv. For a portable you have a battery and everything is intergrated.soulreaper-4

What makes you think its more powerful than the Wii?

Its running in 800x240, or 400x240 for each eye, so its technically not superior to 640x480 right? I'm not sure

Plus, don't get me wrong the 3DS graphics look good but not Wii good. the MGS3 tech demo had no gameplay but looked on par with PS2. Nothing i've seen looks as good as Super Mario Galaxy

Additionally the 3DS isn't as powerful as the GameCube. I know this. Why? Coz when nintendo announced the 3DS in March they said its "roughly" as powerful as the GameCube. "Roughly" is the keyword. If it was more powerful, they'd say so. Kinda like the DS is roughly as powerful as the N64, but its CPU speed is slower yet it has more VRAM than the N64. Advantages and Disadvantages.

I never said the 3DS was more powerful than a Wii. What i meant was that if portable system is powerful or onpar with a console it will always cost more. That's why i said portable not 3DS.

Yea, 3DS isn't more powerful or on par with the Wii it seems. Infact, since its "roughly" as powerful as the GameCube, it could technically be as powerful as a PS2. Coz the PS2 was "roughly" as powerful as the GameCube. Roughly in that it ran RE4 and it looked good for PS2, but not as good as GCN.

That would make it very cheap to make, and then Nintendo would have no reason to charge more than what they charge for their home console, since it isn't even half as powerful as their home console

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The 3DS is listed as $349 on EB Games Australia website. It does say approximate cost though. I think $350 is reasonable, only $50 more than I paid for my DSi XL pack.

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I think $199 would be a good price point, it can't be more expensive than the Wii.
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They will probrobly sell it at game stop for 400$ online it goes for 350$

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for starters, it has better hardware and a wide 3D screen, not to mention 3 cameras, all of them in better resolution. was anyone expecting anything different?
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for starters, it has better hardware and a wide 3D screen, not to mention 3 cameras, all of them in better resolution. was anyone expecting anything different?BrunoBRS
I don't understand people sometimes. As you said it is a brand new devices. When something better is announced people complain becasue they want something even better but at the same time they want it cheap. I hope people don't mistake the 3DS for another revision like the DSi.
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I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?
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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Kenny789"]Hmm most likely priced at $200. Funny how it could be the same price as a Wii yet seems stronger :?darth-pyschosis

A portable system with the same or more power than a home console will always be priced higher unless you want a inferior device in capabilities. And don't forget that you can buy a console but to work it requires external cables, connection to an electric outlet (oviously) and a tv. For a portable you have a battery and everything is intergrated.

What makes you think its more powerful than the Wii?

Its running in 800x240, or 400x240 for each eye, so its technically not superior to 640x480 right? I'm not sure

Plus, don't get me wrong the 3DS graphics look good but not Wii good. the MGS3 tech demo had no gameplay but looked on par with PS2. Nothing i've seen looks as good as Super Mario Galaxy

Additionally the 3DS isn't as powerful as the GameCube. I know this. Why? Coz when nintendo announced the 3DS in March they said its "roughly" as powerful as the GameCube. "Roughly" is the keyword. If it was more powerful, they'd say so. Kinda like the DS is roughly as powerful as the N64, but its CPU speed is slower yet it has more VRAM than the N64. Advantages and Disadvantages.

[/QUOTE you're being too literal with the specs, it never works that way. the PS3 top trumps the 360 in every way possible. Yet it took a goooood while before it started to exceed the 360 visually. even now there is competition. What you need to factor in most, is how "master-able" are the specs and how long does it take for the devs. In the case of the 3DS I think we're gona start seeing almost full potential right outta the box. and I am gona stick to what I said, its actually gona look better than the Wii. simple because its close enough hardware but on a much smaller screen/res making the performance that much better.
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I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?Sepewrath
They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.
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You mean there were people who thought it would cost less than the DSi?? Obviously it will be more expensive.
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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?soulreaper-4
They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.

Uhh, the N64 launched at $250 i think. But you undid your own arguement

Coz the GameCube launched at $199 after that

Dude, haven't you got the news? The 3DS's GPU is super cheap. The system isn't powerful in comparison to other handheld devices, well it is but its using old parts that are cheap.

Its GPU was made in 2006 for example

the 3D doesn't nearly cost that much

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You mean there were people who thought it would cost less than the DSi?? Obviously it will be more expensive.King-gamer

Not nessecarily.

The DSi is dropping from $169 to $129

The 3DS could theoritically launch at $169 or $199

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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?darth-pyschosis

They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.

Uhh, the N64 launched at $199 i think, not $300. then you undid your own arguement coz the GameCube launched for $199

So its possible 3DS launches for $149, $169, or $189, coz nintendo has launched a next gen system for the same price as the last gen launch price before

Dude, haven't you got the news? The 3DS's GPU is super cheap. The system isn't powerful in comparison to other handheld devices, well it is but its using old parts that are cheap.

Its GPU was made in 2006 for example

the 3D doesn't nearly cost that much

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]for starters, it has better hardware and a wide 3D screen, not to mention 3 cameras, all of them in better resolution. was anyone expecting anything different?

They may be better than the DSi cameras, but they're still pretty crappy. GS said the pictures can look blurry even on the 3DS itself. The hardware, though, is brand new, inside out. Of course it will cost more than 6-year-old technology, lol.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]for starters, it has better hardware and a wide 3D screen, not to mention 3 cameras, all of them in better resolution. was anyone expecting anything different?Travis281
They may be better than the DSi cameras, but they're still pretty crappy. GS said the pictures can look blurry even on the 3DS itself. The hardware, though, is brand new, inside out. Of course it will cost more than 6-year-old technology, lol.

To my knowledge they're the same cameras in DSi, just next to each other and all three are VGA

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"] A portable system with the same or more power than a home console will always be priced higher unless you want a inferior device in capabilities. And don't forget that you can buy a console but to work it requires external cables, connection to an electric outlet (oviously) and a tv. For a portable you have a battery and everything is intergrated.soulreaper-4

What makes you think its more powerful than the Wii?

Its running in 800x240, or 400x240 for each eye, so its technically not superior to 640x480 right? I'm not sure

Plus, don't get me wrong the 3DS graphics look good but not Wii good. the MGS3 tech demo had no gameplay but looked on par with PS2. Nothing i've seen looks as good as Super Mario Galaxy

Additionally the 3DS isn't as powerful as the GameCube. I know this. Why? Coz when nintendo announced the 3DS in March they said its "roughly" as powerful as the GameCube. "Roughly" is the keyword. If it was more powerful, they'd say so. Kinda like the DS is roughly as powerful as the N64, but its CPU speed is slower yet it has more VRAM than the N64. Advantages and Disadvantages.

I never said the 3DS was more powerful than a Wii. What i meant was that if portable system is powerful or onpar with a console it will always cost more. That's why i said portable not 3DS.

Yep, and even if it's not onpar with the console btw. The DS sold for $50 more than the Gamecube when it launched. The PSP was $100 more than the PS2.

The 3DS will be $50+ more than the Wii.

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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?darth-pyschosis

They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.

Uhh, the N64 launched at $250 i think. But you undid your own arguement

Coz the GameCube launched at $199 after that

Dude, haven't you got the news? The 3DS's GPU is super cheap. The system isn't powerful in comparison to other handheld devices, well it is but its using old parts that are cheap.

Its GPU was made in 2006 for example

the 3D doesn't nearly cost that much

The N64 launched at $199. It was said it was going to be $250, but shortly before release, at least in the US, the price was cut to $199.

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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?darth-pyschosis

They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.

Uhh, the N64 launched at $250 i think. But you undid your own arguement

Coz the GameCube launched at $199 after that

Dude, haven't you got the news? The 3DS's GPU is super cheap. The system isn't powerful in comparison to other handheld devices, well it is but its using old parts that are cheap.

Its GPU was made in 2006 for example

the 3D doesn't nearly cost that much

Nintendo getting the GPU of the 3DS cheap doesn't means the system will be sold for cheap. GPU is only one part of the entire system and yeah according to kotaku it was develope 4 years ago but that's the way everything works. The 360, PS3, Wii, Ipad, DS, PSP annd every other device realised so far have internal components that were deveolpe 4 or more yearsbeforetheir unveil. Thants not new and that's why they use lower power comsumption in portables.

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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?soulreaper-4
They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.

yeah, because that worked really well. sepe's point is that when nintendo goes for top notch tech and adds a salty price tag to it, they get screwed.
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#36 soulreaper-4
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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?BrunoBRS
They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.

yeah, because that worked really well. sepe's point is that when nintendo goes for top notch tech and adds a salty price tag to it, they get screwed.

Actually they got screwed with the N64 not because the price was high, they were screwed because they lost a lot of proyects and 3rd party games plus they didin't went with CDs and instead they stayed with catriges that were low in space and were costly.
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#37 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="soulreaper-4"] They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.soulreaper-4
yeah, because that worked really well. sepe's point is that when nintendo goes for top notch tech and adds a salty price tag to it, they get screwed.

Actually they got screwed with the N64 not because the price was high, they were screwed because they lost a lot of proyects and 3rd party games plus they didin't went with CDs and instead they stayed with catriges that were low in space and were costly.

cartridges are expensive. you said it yourself. it's the price that drove away third parties, and it killed the N64. the gamecube was a mix of backlash from the N64 and, again, price. more expensive than the PS2, and they went with a bizarre minidisc media.

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#38 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I wouldn't exactly call this a confirmation of anything. Two things, one, saying that it cost more to make a 3DS doesn't mean much, because how much does it actually cost to a DS? It could cost $95 bucks to make a DS. Second, this is a company that has NEVER went in for the high price point, they always keep price down, their not going to release a handheld that rivals the price of HD consoles, 3D or not. Look at their history and all the competition they've had over the years that have been undone by high starting prices, do you think they would make the same mistake?BrunoBRS
They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.

yeah, because that worked really well. sepe's point is that when nintendo goes for top notch tech and adds a salty price tag to it, they get screwed.

Well, at $250, the Wii had one of Nintendo's most successful console launches in history. The DSi XL currently outsells the DSi and DS Lite -- at least in Japan, I don't have the American sales information.

Everyone thought the Wii was a great price at $250, even though its technical improvement over the Gamecube was underwhelming, based off of the strength of its motion controls. Now we have the 3DS, the first handheld that looks capable of exceeding Gamecube-level power, the first mainstream mobile 3D device on market, which includes an accelerometer and gyroscope, plays back 3D movies, takes 3D pictures... all of that, and a Wii-level price seems pretty fair to me.

Ever since the DSi launched, the DSi has been the same price or higher as the PSP Core... but it hasn't really mattered as far as sales go. No one even buys the cheaper, backwards compatible Lites anymore. The same is true of the Wii, really; people could have been picking up 360 Arcades for the same price, but they haven't. These consoles are technically much weaker than the competition, but even when priced as the same price point, they still sell better anyway. (I admit the PSP Core and 360 Arcade are a bit crippled, but still.)

Now we have the 3DS, poised to be the leader in power of all handhelds to date. I think a high cost would be consistent with the pricing schemes we've seen since 2006...

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#39 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] yeah, because that worked really well. sepe's point is that when nintendo goes for top notch tech and adds a salty price tag to it, they get screwed.BrunoBRS

Actually they got screwed with the N64 not because the price was high, they were screwed because they lost a lot of proyects and 3rd party games plus they didin't went with CDs and instead they stayed with catriges that were low in space and were costly.

cartridges are expensive. you said it yourself. it's the price that drove away third parties, and it killed the N64. the gamecube was a mix of backlash from the N64 and, again, price. more expensive than the PS2, and they went with a bizarre minidisc media.

Why does everyone think the components in the 3DS are going to be expensive? There's no way this thing costs more than $150 to make per unit

1. 800x240 3D screen (probably the most expensive thing here), and a 320x240 touch screen that isn't 3D.

2. A older GPU thats good on power consumption and isn't too far advanced over the PSP GPU, and its from 2006. We have no idea what Nintendo plans to modify it, like Underclocking, etc.

3. A CPU that we don't know of, but its gonna be ARM. (maybe the ARM11 family?) So it gonna be cheap. It will likely have two CPUs, and i'm willing to bet you it will have one CPU @ roughly 400Mhz-500Mhz and the old DS CPU @ 67Mhz for the touch screen and BC.

4. RAM? VRAM? Well it looks to be on par with PSP/GameCube honestly. Original PSP had 32MB RAM, i'm guessing this may have 32MB-64MB. Once again, very cheap.

5. WiFi? Plz I doubt they'd put N into it, B/G is likely.

6. One SD slot, One DS/3DS game slot, stylus slot, Gyro, Accelorameters are in every mobile device it seems these days.

What else? Internal Memory? Guys this is Nintendo we're lucky if the thing has 2GB of internal storage, heck 8GB is the tops and 8GB is super super cheap.

Another thing, this thing won't really need more than 2GBs for storage, i know there are rumors of 3DS software install, but i'm not sure they'd do that. Maybe have a store where you can download DS games, GBA, GBC, SNES, GB games, but realistically a bunch of 60MB-120MB DS games could fit a lot onto 2GBs.

It has an SD slot, so music and videos can be added that way. And i don't expect them to pay the MP3 licensing fee.

If you literally took all the stuff in a PSP from 2007, you add the 3D screen, touch screen, internal storage, Gyro and Accelorameter, and what? Slightly overclocked CPU or GPU than what was in that?

I don't mean to compare consoles, but this is all old tech, and inexpensive tech. Do we really think Nintendo's throwing some crazy Snapdragon 1Ghz CPU in this thing to raise costs? I mean the three cameras are VGA that alone should send the message to us that they're keeping costs down

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#40 soulreaper-4
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[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] yeah, because that worked really well. sepe's point is that when nintendo goes for top notch tech and adds a salty price tag to it, they get screwed.BrunoBRS

Actually they got screwed with the N64 not because the price was high, they were screwed because they lost a lot of proyects and 3rd party games plus they didin't went with CDs and instead they stayed with catriges that were low in space and were costly.

cartridges are expensive. you said it yourself. it's the price that drove away third parties, and it killed the N64. the gamecube was a mix of backlash from the N64 and, again, price. more expensive than the PS2, and they went with a bizarre minidisc media.

Yeah the price was high but the case was the quality of the games. They didn't had the CG scenes, better sound, big voice acting and big games like the PS1 Final Fantasy's and much more games.
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#41 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="soulreaper-4"] They sure can priced the portable the same as the Wii or close to the HD consoles. Why not? If the system is powerful and packs a lot of new upgrades in it sure they can. They may even keep the DS alive for people with little money to spend on games and the 3DS for the others much like PS3 and PS2. NINTENDO HAS WENT IN WITH HIGH PRICES POINTS EARLIER. What about the $300 dollars N64 with $60 and $65 dollars games.SakusEnvoy

yeah, because that worked really well. sepe's point is that when nintendo goes for top notch tech and adds a salty price tag to it, they get screwed.

Well, at $250, the Wii had one of Nintendo's most successful console launches in history. The DSi XL currently outsells the DSi and DS Lite -- at least in Japan, I don't have the American sales information.

Everyone thought the Wii was a great price at $250, even though its technical improvement over the Gamecube was underwhelming, based off of the strength of its motion controls. Now we have the 3DS, the first handheld that looks capable of exceeding Gamecube-level power, the first mainstream mobile 3D device on market, which includes an accelerometer and gyroscope, plays back 3D movies, takes 3D pictures... all of that, and a Wii-level price seems pretty fair to me.

Ever since the DSi launched, the DSi has been the same price or higher as the PSP Core... but it hasn't really mattered as far as sales go. No one even buys the cheaper, backwards compatible Lites anymore. The same is true of the Wii, really; people could have been picking up 360 Arcades for the same price, but they haven't. These consoles are technically much weaker than the competition, but even when priced as the same price point, they still sell better anyway. (I admit the PSP Core and 360 Arcade are a bit crippled, but still.)

Now we have the 3DS, poised to be the leader in power of all handhelds to date. I think a high cost would be consistent with the pricing schemes we've seen since 2006...

I'm pretty sure, in North America at least, the DSi/DS lite sales have been pretty 50/50 or 60/40 for the most part

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#43 Rod90
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Really? The 3DS does everything the DSi does (except DSiware) and more. It will cost MORE.