Analysts Predict DS2 to be Released Very Soon...

Here's the article:http://ds.ign.com/articles/106/1061295p1.html

What do you guys think?

Yeah I'm glad I stuck with my DS Lite and I did not get the DSi or DSXL.

Good for me :P

Not likely, especially with the XL coming out soon. Analysts have the most bizarre predictions - I guess they like getting headlines for making bold/insane statements.DJ_Lae

Yeah, I learned to stop listening to these so-called "analysts" a long time ago. Often times their predictions are so bizarre and stupid that you're left wondering if they even pay attention to the industry at all or just throw darts randomly at a wall covered with stickies with words written on them. Remember, for example, the first few years of this gen when all the analysts kept claiming that the PS3 was about to overtake the X360 and Wii and become the dominant console?

Anyway, whoever said that the DS is about to get a successor is a moron. Nintendo just released the DSi last year which was essentially their new handheld entry and they're about to release the XL in North America so it's unlikely that they're going to replace it this quickly. Furthermore, the DS is still having no problems in sales and it's only competition, the PSP, just released a new iteration of itself (meaning that Sony is also not planning to release a new handheld anytime soon) so there's little incentive right now for Nintendo to release a new handheld. Finally, if a DS2 was around the corner we would know about it by now. Console makers always announce their systems at least one year before release in order to build up hype.

I don't know what you guys mean, its coming our by April 2011, like it or lump it. All this stuff about "the analysis is wrong" is pure fiction.

Sigh. Why must people bring their agendas into a gaming forum?

I don't really beleive it. that would be three handhelds in three years from nintendo. Maybe shwon but not released this year

I don't trust video game analysts.

Nintendo is still enjoying success with the DS and is about to release another version of it.

Not to mention that they keep saying that a Wii HD is going to be released...

I don't trust video game analysts.

Nintendo is still enjoying success with the DS and is about to release another version of it.

Not to mention that they keep saying that a Wii HD is going to be released...

wiidskirby

It won't be coming out for at least 9 months, it's just not going to happen. It wasn't as much as hinted at at E3 or Tokyo Game Show, there's new models being made, it'll be a bit. The earliest we'll see it is Christmas of 2010, even that would be rushing, but admittedly not impossible.

Nintendo's stated otherwise. I'll take their word over some random analyst's.

Nintendo's stated otherwise. I'll take their word over some random analyst's.

windsquid9000

As I have previously stated: Nintendo denied the release of the Nintendo DSi XL and then unveiled it just a couple days later. The same thing happened with the DSi, except that it wasn't as controversial because it was months apart.

Their denial of new consoles is known as a "confirmation" nowadays.

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Nintendo's stated otherwise. I'll take their word over some random analyst's.

gacs_25

As I have previously stated: Nintendo denied the release of the Nintendo DSi XL and then unveiled it just a couple days later. The same thing happened with the DSi, except that it wasn't as controversial because it was months apart.

Their denial of new consoles is known as a "confirmation" nowadays.

Seems to me, and I might be TOTALLY wrong about this, but maybe SOME (not all) people are denying the fact that the DS2 is coming out soon because they don't want to have to believe that they spent their money on a recently purchased DSi/DSL, when they could have waited for the DS2. I don't mean that as a slight or as an insult to anyone, but it may be the case for some people. Honestly, I personally believe the DS2 will be released sometime later on this year, or early next. From the evidence gacs_25 has shown in previous posts, it seems like Nintendo's pretty much releasing this DS successor asap.

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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Nintendo's stated otherwise. I'll take their word over some random analyst's.

Foxh0und666

As I have previously stated: Nintendo denied the release of the Nintendo DSi XL and then unveiled it just a couple days later. The same thing happened with the DSi, except that it wasn't as controversial because it was months apart.

Their denial of new consoles is known as a "confirmation" nowadays.

Seems to me, and I might be TOTALLY wrong about this, but maybe SOME (not all) people are denying the fact that the DS2 is coming out soon because they don't want to have to believe that they spent their money on a recently purchased DSi/DSL, when they could have waited for the DS2. I don't mean that as a slight or as an insult to anyone, but it may be the case for some people. Honestly, I personally believe the DS2 will be released sometime later on this year, or early next. From the evidence gacs_25 has shown in previous posts, it seems like Nintendo's pretty much releasing this DS successor asap.

I.care.0 analyzed that analysts are wrong in 87,08% of theirs analysis.

And that they bring their numbers and conclusions out of nowhere and without the proper analysis of the facts 93,42% of the time.

I.care.0 analized that analists are wrong in 87,08% of theirs analisys.

And that they bring their numbers and conclusions out of nowhere and without the proper analisys of the facts 93,42% of the time.

Icare0

I like how you seem so certain about your opinion that you throw in random decimals to make your point seem more believable.

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I.care.0 analized that analists are wrong in 87,08% of theirs analisys.

And that they bring their numbers and conclusions out of nowhere and without the proper analisys of the facts 93,42% of the time.

gacs_25

I like how you seem so certain about your opinion that you throw in random decimals to make your point seem more believable.

RANDOM decimals?? That's outrageous! I challenge you to proof that my [futurology]analysis is wrong!

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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Nintendo's stated otherwise. I'll take their word over some random analyst's.

Foxh0und666

As I have previously stated: Nintendo denied the release of the Nintendo DSi XL and then unveiled it just a couple days later. The same thing happened with the DSi, except that it wasn't as controversial because it was months apart.

Their denial of new consoles is known as a "confirmation" nowadays.

Seems to me, and I might be TOTALLY wrong about this, but maybe SOME (not all) people are denying the fact that the DS2 is coming out soon because they don't want to have to believe that they spent their money on a recently purchased DSi/DSL, when they could have waited for the DS2. I don't mean that as a slight or as an insult to anyone, but it may be the case for some people. Honestly, I personally believe the DS2 will be released sometime later on this year, or early next. From the evidence gacs_25 has shown in previous posts, it seems like Nintendo's pretty much releasing this DS successor asap.

The only NDS I've ever owned is the DS Phat that I bought a couple months after it launched. So I'm fine with a new system coming out. Thing is, I seriously doubt that a new handheld is around the corner. The DSi was supposed to be Nintendo's upgrade of the DS, much like how the gameboy color was the upgrade of the gameboy. So the only way that I could see a new Nintendo handheld coming out this year is if it's a Gameboy brand, but Nintendo seemed to have dropped the idea that the DS and Gameboy were separate pillars years ago.

And again, less than a year's notice is very short for new systems. That would be tantamount to a stealth launch which is never a good idea (just ask Sega who stealth launched the Saturn in the US). Usually the way it works is that a console maker announces their new system at the E3 the year before they intend to release the system. Thus, I wouldn't expect a DS2 until Q3 or Q4 2011 at the earliest.

Ok i'm pissed. I just bought a dsi a couple weeks ago with money ive been saving up for YEARS, and a new ds is comming now? WTF

The only NDS I've ever owned is the DS Phat that I bought a couple months after it launched. So I'm fine with a new system coming out. Thing is, I seriously doubt that a new handheld is around the corner. The DSi was supposed to be Nintendo's upgrade of the DS, much like how the gameboy color was the upgrade of the gameboy. So the only way that I could see a new Nintendo handheld coming out this year is if it's a Gameboy brand, but Nintendo seemed to have dropped the idea that the DS and Gameboy were separate pillars years ago.

And again, less than a year's notice is very short for new systems. That would be tantamount to a stealth launch which is never a good idea (just ask Sega who stealth launched the Saturn in the US). Usually the way it works is that a console maker announces their new system at the E3 the year before they intend to release the system. Thus, I wouldn't expect a DS2 until Q3 or Q4 2011 at the earliest.

gameguy6700

The thing is Nintendo has never said that the DSi was like the Gameboy Colour. That's just speculation.

They can easily announce the DS2 at E3 this year and release it in Q4 or early 2011. The reason the Saturn got a back-lash from the press and the retail market was because the system launched before E3 and no info on it had released and they made the huge mistake on only selling it at certain retailers which pissed many other huge retailers off. Announcing the DS2 at E3 this year and then release it in Q4 would not be the same thing as the Saturn launch at all. Nintendo know how to launch a system, Sega never did.

After all the DS Phat was released on Mars 2006 and the Gameboy Micro in Sep 2005. That's only Seven months appart. The DSi XL could just as easily be another Micro if the DSi could be another Gameboy Colour. Pure speculation? Sure but so is the idea that the DSi is this generations GBC.

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The only NDS I've ever owned is the DS Phat that I bought a couple months after it launched. So I'm fine with a new system coming out. Thing is, I seriously doubt that a new handheld is around the corner. The DSi was supposed to be Nintendo's upgrade of the DS, much like how the gameboy color was the upgrade of the gameboy. So the only way that I could see a new Nintendo handheld coming out this year is if it's a Gameboy brand, but Nintendo seemed to have dropped the idea that the DS and Gameboy were separate pillars years ago.

And again, less than a year's notice is very short for new systems. That would be tantamount to a stealth launch which is never a good idea (just ask Sega who stealth launched the Saturn in the US). Usually the way it works is that a console maker announces their new system at the E3 the year before they intend to release the system. Thus, I wouldn't expect a DS2 until Q3 or Q4 2011 at the earliest.

JLF1

The thing is Nintendo has never said that the DSi was like the Gameboy Colour. That's just speculation.

They can easily announce the DS2 at E3 this year and release it in Q4 or early 2011. The reason the Saturn got a back-lash from the press and the retail market was because the system launched before E3 and no info on it had released and they made the huge mistake on only selling it at certain retailers which pissed many other huge retailers off. Announcing the DS2 at E3 this year and then release it in Q4 would not be the same thing as the Saturn launch at all. Nintendo know how to launch a system, Sega never did.

After all the DS Phat was released on Mars 2006 and the Gameboy Micro in Sep 2005. That's only Seven months appart. The DSi XL could just as easily be another Micro if the DSi could be another Gameboy Colour. Pure speculation? Sure but so is the idea that the DSi is this generations GBC.

No, the DS was released in November 2004. The Gameboy Micro was released in 2005 like you said though, as back then Nintendo thought that the Gameboy Advance and DS were going to coexist on the market. Nintendo never released a new GBA right before the launch of the DS. The most recent iteration of the GBA before the DS was the GBASP which got released in March of 2003, and then Nintendo announced the DS in November of that year. And while that does show precedent for Nintendo to release a new handheld and then announce a completely new one in the same year, keep in mind that Nintendo truly thought that the DS was going to be a third pillar in their product offerings, with the Gameboy and home consoles being the other two, so they didn't think of the DS as a replacement for the GBA.

No, the DS was released in November 2004. The Gameboy Micro was released in 2005 like you said though, as back then Nintendo thought that the Gameboy Advance and DS were going to coexist on the market. Nintendo never released a new GBA right before the launch of the DS. The most recent iteration of the GBA before the DS was the GBASP which got released in March of 2003, and then Nintendo announced the DS in November of that year. And while that does show precedent for Nintendo to release a new handheld and then announce a completely new one in the same year, keep in mind that Nintendo truly thought that the DS was going to be a third pillar in their product offerings, with the Gameboy and home consoles being the other two, so they didn't think of the DS as a replacement for the GBA.

gameguy6700

You don't actually believe that do you?

They only said that so investors wouldn't freak out. The only reason they said that the DS was the third pillar and not the second was because then they would have a name (Gameboy) to go back to if the DS backfired on them.

The DS was the successor to the Gameboy Advance from the start. They had no intention of having two handheld brand names competing for the same market. This isn't Sega we are talking about (Saturn Vs 32X Vs Mega CD).

I'm not saying that the DS2 will release this year but I can easily see them doing so.

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No, the DS was released in November 2004. The Gameboy Micro was released in 2005 like you said though, as back then Nintendo thought that the Gameboy Advance and DS were going to coexist on the market. Nintendo never released a new GBA right before the launch of the DS. The most recent iteration of the GBA before the DS was the GBASP which got released in March of 2003, and then Nintendo announced the DS in November of that year. And while that does show precedent for Nintendo to release a new handheld and then announce a completely new one in the same year, keep in mind that Nintendo truly thought that the DS was going to be a third pillar in their product offerings, with the Gameboy and home consoles being the other two, so they didn't think of the DS as a replacement for the GBA.

JLF1

You don't actually believe that do you?

They only said that so investors wouldn't freak out. The only reason they said that the DS was the third pillar and not the second was because then they would have a name (Gameboy) to go back to if the DS backfired on them.

The DS was the successor to the Gameboy Advance from the start. They had no intention of having two handheld brand names competing for the same market. This isn't Sega we are talking about (Saturn Vs 32X Vs Mega CD).

I'm not saying that the DS2 will release this year but I can easily see them doing so.

Considering that Nintendo bothered to release another GBA variant a year after the DS released, yeah, I'd say that I'm willing to believe that Nintendo thought they could have both the DS and GBA on the market. It takes a lot of money to come up with one of those variants, mass produce it, and market it, so it's not something a company does just for looks.

Also, the Sega CD never competed with the 32X. Where are you getting that from? They were both accessories for the Genesis and there were even games that required you to have both add-ons. And they sure as hell weren't meant to compete with the Saturn. Sega is on record as stating that the 32X was a stopgap measure to keep people interested in Sega until the Saturn rolled out. The Saturn, being the Genesis's successor, was intended to replace the Genesis and it's perhiphials like the 32X and CD.

I'm expecting an anouncement soon, maybe a japanese launch in November, and we'll get it next March. Really the DS doesn't have much life left in it, anyone who played Spirit Tracks should have to see they are running out of steam (pun intended)with the system(it is not even vaguely near phantom hour glass). I loved DS and bought it day 1 and multiple copies of every model, but I've lost interest, yes I want Golden Sun but if the new one is backwards compatable I can skip the DSI XL(I probably won't, I didn't even skip gba micro).

Nintendo's stated otherwise. I'll take their word over some random analyst's.

windsquid9000

And you wouldn't?

Telling consumers "we will have a new device X/XX/XXXX date" is suicide

Nintendo would lie to to you the morning of their new handheld being announced, Iwata/Reggie/Myiamoto all would, in hopes that you'd go buy one of those old handhelds for $130 AND buy the new one later

I think what most people are missing here is that the article says the DS2 WILL BE ANNOUNCED in 8 months, or around September. If it's being announced then, that probably means at the earliest, it will be available in Japan by the NEXT fall (2011), which means available in the U.S. by about April 2012.

I think what most people are missing here is that the article says the DS2 WILL BE ANNOUNCED in 8 months, or around September. If it's being announced then, that probably means at the earliest, it will be available in Japan by the NEXT fall (2011), which means available in the U.S. by about April 2012.

RichardWrite

And you are missing the fact that, without any proof of a leak of information, numbers, or reasoning based in solid facts, anyone can say anything based solely in mere futurology. Or random guessing.

Choose one and be a analyst yourserlf!!

Not likely, especially with the XL coming out soon. Analysts have the most bizarre predictions - I guess they like getting headlines for making bold/insane statements.DJ_Lae

I'm expecting an anouncement soon, maybe a japanese launch in November, and we'll get it next March. Really the DS doesn't have much life left in it, anyone who played Spirit Tracks should have to see they are running out of steam (pun intended)with the system(it is not even vaguely near phantom hour glass). I loved DS and bought it day 1 and multiple copies of every model, but I've lost interest, yes I want Golden Sun but if the new one is backwards compatable I can skip the DSI XL(I probably won't, I didn't even skip gba micro).

dovberg

The DS2 will probably be released in the US before Japan, as was with the original DS. Also, I wouldn't bother getting a DSi XL, unless you plan on keeping it unopened for future resale or something, or you're a collector.

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Not likely, especially with the XL coming out soon. Analysts have the most bizarre predictions - I guess they like getting headlines for making bold/insane statements.PhilipV94

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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Not likely, especially with the XL coming out soon. Analysts have the most bizarre predictions - I guess they like getting headlines for making bold/insane statements.DJ_Lae

Yeah and what is the DSi? There is no really big hardware updates, nothing worthy of going from a Lite to a DSi, that's for sure. Maybe DSiWare, but even then, I'm sure there's more GBA games than DSiWare games. Yes it's selling well, but that still doesn't mean that Nintendo wouldn't release a new device. Now would be the perfect time because it's been 5 years since the DS's release and many of the original owners want updated graphics. Even if someone just bought a DSi they would pick up the DS2 for the improved graphics, while many Lite owners didn't bother getting a DSi. How is the PSP no competition whatsoever? It has sold over 55 million handhelds, which is pretty amazing when you consider old handhelds never coming close to this feat. And no, Nintendo wouldn't use the App store because Apple markets its iPod Touch as a gaming device, allowing the DS to use it would basically destroy the iPod Touch. Also, the licensing fees would most likely be way too high. Also, I don't see Nintendo going all touchscreen because many people love (including me) the protection of the screen from the DS's clamshell design. DSiWare may be clunky now because it's new, I haven't used it so I can't talk about it. I'd imagine the new DS2 would use the DSi software interface, otherwise it'd be useless. Like I said, I think it'll be announced near the end of this year, and released by next year. One more thing, stopped a hardwares lifespan early, while it's still kicking is a good thing because if they let sales decline it can negatively effect the companies sales of its next device. Sony released the PS3 when the PS2 was (and still somewhat is) popular. Even when GBA was kicking, Nintendo released the DS.

Are these the same anaylsts that predicted y2k ??

@Icare0:

Did you have some horrible encounter with an analyst? Did you end up buying a console simply because an analyst erroneously predicted that a new one would not be coming out any time soon?

People seem to utilize "analysts" as some sort of umbrella term that refers to every single analyst in existence when in fact, it could just be a handful (or in the case of this IGN article, just ONE), akin to the use of "scientists say" or "doctors say". These people deal with numbers, demand, decisions, marketing, alternatives, and no, they are not some huge hive mind that spouts a massive prediction every once and then. Their job is to try and predict what is yet to occur based on the points I previously mentioned (which of course means that they can either be correct or incorrect).

Analysts have real jobs, whether you like it or not. Next time you go around dissing a profession, at least try to do so with more substance.

@Icare0:

Did you have some horrible encounter with an analyst? Did you end up buying a console simply because an analyst erroneously predicted that a new one would not be coming out any time soon?

People seem to utilize "analysts" as some sort of umbrella term that refers to every single analyst in existence when in fact, it could just be a handful (or in the case of this IGN article, just ONE), akin to the use of "scientists say" or "doctors say". These people deal with numbers, demand, decisions, marketing, alternatives, and no, they are not some huge hive mind that spouts a massive prediction every once and then. Their job is to try and predict what is yet to occur based on the points I previously mentioned (which of course means that they can either be correct or incorrect).

Analysts have real jobs, whether you like it or not. Next time you go around dissing a profession, at least try to do so with more substance.

Someone said earlier in this thread that he believes people who don't believe a DS2 is imminent are those who just bought a DSi and don't want to think they wasted their money. I was thinking just the opposite. Those who are so desperate to believe that a DS2 could come next week are those who want to prove that they were right for not getting a DSi.

Personally, I think there is just too much evidence against an imminent DS2.....and it has nothing to do with the fact that I own a DSi. For one, I didn't buy my DSi (i got it as a present), and besides, I make enough money that I willingly buy any upgrade to the system that they release. I would be excited if this fall I saw a new, better DS. In fact, I already plan to buy the XL.....and any other upgrades I find. But the fact that A) Nintendo said there's still too much life left in DS and DSi, and B) that they seem to have adopted a model of 'Japan first, the U.S. half a year later,' and C) the XL has not even arrived here yet, and has been a HUGE success in Japan....all seem to tell me we have a couple more years before a DS2.

Someone said earlier in this thread that he believes people who don't believe a DS2 is imminent are those who just bought a DSi and don't want to think they wasted their money. I was thinking just the opposite. Those who are so desperate to believe that a DS2 could come next week are those who want to prove that they were right for not getting a DSi.

Personally, I think there is just too much evidence against an imminent DS2.....and it has nothing to do with the fact that I own a DSi. For one, I didn't buy my DSi (i got it as a present), and besides, I make enough money that I willingly buy any upgrade to the system that they release. I would be excited if this fall I saw a new, better DS. In fact, I already plan to buy the XL.....and any other upgrades I find. But the fact that A) Nintendo said there's still too much life left in DS and DSi, and B) that they seem to have adopted a model of 'Japan first, the U.S. half a year later,' and C) the XL has not even arrived here yet, and has been a HUGE success in Japan....all seem to tell me we have a couple more years before a DS2.

Although this isn't system wars, analysts also said that by 2010 the PS3 would have well over 70million units sold. All consoles together barely make that margin. You can't always count on analysts using past data.

Although this isn't system wars, analysts also said that by 2010 the PS3 would have well over 70million units sold. All consoles together barely make that margin. You can't always count on analysts using past data.

xXDante666Xx

Analists are corporate suits who miss their target 75% of the time in the gaming industry. I can't count the ammount of times taht i heard those pricks and they were just talking bs.

Given the popularity that the current DS has, if Nintendo pulls the crap of not using the DSi to its fullest (i bet that almost no one that bought a DSi knows of the increased hardware power), and ignoring the XL after 12 months, then they would lose all their credibility and i woulnd't pick up another nintendo handheld in my life.

Analists are corporate suits who miss their target 75% of the time in the gaming industry. I can't count the ammount of times taht i heard those pricks and they were just talking bs.

Given the popularity that the current DS has, if Nintendo pulls the crap of not using the DSi to its fullest (i bet that almost no one that bought a DSi knows of the increased hardware power), and ignoring the XL after 12 months, then they would lose all their credibility and i woulnd't pick up another nintendo handheld in my life.

zey2k

Consumer loyalty will remain even if something like that were to happen since no actual gamer would refrain from buying a console simply because X company kicked a puppy. People just need to deal with the fact that the trend is "release a new model every X months"; Sony and Apple have been doing this for quite a while now. This is not to say that Nintendo will surely reveal a new model this year; just that it's impossible to completely dismiss the possibility.

It all comes down to choice: buy the newer model, or stick to an older model, and I must say that many people go for the former, which is why the aforementioned trend is here to stay. Tweaking a console and then releasing it again draws new consumers and a considerable quantity of previous owners.

P.S: You don't see people baaawing because they bought a car and just a year later a new and "superior" model is released.