Are the Gamecube Wii-makes good news for us?

I've heard some people complaining about the gamecube to wii remakes, saying that they wish Nintendo was working on better new games. Nintendo IS working on some new games, but that's not what I'm here to discuss.

This re-releases could be a way for Nintendo to get the so-called "casual gamers" hooked on Nintendo's franchises, the good games. Then when new games like Pikmin 3 come out, these same people will be more likely to buy them.

This, combined with the failure in sales of Wii Music, could mean that Nintendo might start giving us more "core" games. Notnecessarily overly hard games, but well-developed games like Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros Brawl, ect.

But...that could just be me being overly hopeful. What do you guys think/hope?

i think wii music itself was a good enough of a reason for them to start making core games.

and for the wii-makes, i dont really get the point.

It means they've given up on the Wii

Nintendo themselves said that these games were remade because the original ones sold poorly
They sold poorly because no one wanted them, if they were wanted they would have been purchased

Nintendo has finally sunk as low as Capcom and other companies not willing to try on the Wii anymore knowing that someone is going to buy anything and if you can fool enough people you can cover your previous losses.

The day these retreads were announced it was a very dark day for any Wii user.

The Wii-makes are worth it simply because so many gamers missed out on some classic GameCube titles. They're worth it to me as i'll eventually be able to play Metroid Prime 1 & 2 with the same controls as the third. It also gives Nintendo the opportunity to adjust and make small improvements to any games that require it.

I don't see how these Wii-makes could annoy anyone as its unlikely this is effecting the development of future 1st party titles. It really doesn't take a great deal of people to make small adjustments to a game.

I don't care what they remake, I just want a sequel to F-Zero GX.siLVURcross

I don't see how these Wii-makes could annoy anyone as its unlikely this is effecting the development of future 1st party titles. It really doesn't take a great deal of people to make small adjustments to a game.

Raiko101

Number of first party games available in the first quarter of 2009?

Zero

Don't think for a second that this cash in doesn't mess with other games.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]I don't care what they remake, I just want a sequel to F-Zero GX.UNHOLY_basic

It means they've given up on the Wii

Nintendo themselves said that these games were remade because the original ones sold poorly
They sold poorly because no one wanted them, if they were wanted they would have been purchased

Nintendo has finally sunk as low as Capcom and other companies not willing to try on the Wii anymore knowing that someone is going to buy anything and if you can fool enough people you can cover your previous losses.

The day these retreads were announced it was a very dark day for any Wii user.

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]I don't care what they remake, I just want a sequel to F-Zero GX.funsohng

F-Zero GX with it's 60fps was so fast it would give me a headache whenever I would start playing it...

Awesome game though, deserves a sequel.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It means they've given up on the Wii

Nintendo themselves said that these games were remade because the original ones sold poorly
They sold poorly because no one wanted them, if they were wanted they would have been purchased

Nintendo has finally sunk as low as Capcom and other companies not willing to try on the Wii anymore knowing that someone is going to buy anything and if you can fool enough people you can cover your previous losses.

The day these retreads were announced it was a very dark day for any Wii user.

nintendoboy16

No, it's fact, if you researched better you'd know it too

Capcom released RE4 on the Wii because they were caught without software for the Wii at launch. They quickly put together RE4 and it turned out well. From that point on we were promised new titles like Umbrella Chronicles. The port was going to be a one time thing

Until they saw how much that old retread was selling. Then we saw things like REZero on the Wii, and Okami was pulled out of mothballs, and soon Dead Rising will soon be on the Wii in all it's hacked and watered down glory.

Nintendo saw the same thing. They didn't make enough money on these Gamecube titles the first time around because the Gamecube was one of the worst consoles ever made that almost closed Nintendo. No one bought the titles and Nintendo didn't meet the numbers they expected. So what do they do?

They sell the games on the Wii but add motion controls that were never designed for the games in the first place.

They've given up. They understand that when you have such a large install base it doesn't matter what game you make, it just matters that it gets out to market. Even lukewarm sales for these ports mean that Nintendo will be in the black instead of in the red like they were last gen.

I've heard some people complaining about the gamecube to wii remakes, saying that they wish Nintendo was working on better new games. Nintendo IS working on some new games, but that's not what I'm here to discuss.

This re-releases could be a way for Nintendo to get the so-called "casual gamers" hooked on Nintendo's franchises, the good games. Then when new games like Pikmin 3 come out, these same people will be more likely to buy them.

This, combined with the failure in sales of Wii Music, could mean that Nintendo might start giving us more "core" games. Notnecessarily overly hard games, but well-developed games like Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros Brawl, ect.

But...that could just be me being overly hopeful. What do you guys think/hope?

in some ways I don't care to much

but when I find it hard to find a game that I'm pretty sure I might like it sometimes is hard for me to find 1 (only games like sonic, mario, ect..)

so I kinda wish they'd make new games but right now I don't care to much

and to poster above:I do not believe that game cube was one of the worst (then again its the only consele I have besides xbox. Wii, nitendo 64)

I actually wish they'd have more games for game cube (Wii is the only system I have that I can probaly get a new game for)

though untill I actually start getting new games I don't care to much

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It means they've given up on the Wii

Nintendo themselves said that these games were remade because the original ones sold poorly
They sold poorly because no one wanted them, if they were wanted they would have been purchased

Nintendo has finally sunk as low as Capcom and other companies not willing to try on the Wii anymore knowing that someone is going to buy anything and if you can fool enough people you can cover your previous losses.

The day these retreads were announced it was a very dark day for any Wii user.

Jaysonguy

No, it's fact, if you researched better you'd know it too

Capcom released RE4 on the Wii because they were caught without software for the Wii at launch. They quickly put together RE4 and it turned out well. From that point on we were promised new titles like Umbrella Chronicles. The port was going to be a one time thing

Until they saw how much that old retread was selling. Then we saw things like REZero on the Wii, and Okami was pulled out of mothballs, and soon Dead Rising will soon be on the Wii in all it's hacked and watered down glory.

Nintendo saw the same thing. They didn't make enough money on these Gamecube titles the first time around because the Gamecube was one of the worst consoles ever made that almost closed Nintendo. No one bought the titles and Nintendo didn't meet the numbers they expected. So what do they do?

They sell the games on the Wii but add motion controls that were never designed for the games in the first place.

They've given up. They understand that when you have such a large install base it doesn't matter what game you make, it just matters that it gets out to market. Even lukewarm sales for these ports mean that Nintendo will be in the black instead of in the red like they were last gen.

[QUOTE="Raiko101"]

I don't see how these Wii-makes could annoy anyone as its unlikely this is effecting the development of future 1st party titles. It really doesn't take a great deal of people to make small adjustments to a game.

Jaysonguy

Number of first party games available in the first quarter of 2009?

Zero

Don't think for a second that this cash in doesn't mess with other games.

Number of first party games available in the first quarter of 2009?

Zero

Jaysonguy

Don't think for a second that this cash in doesn't mess with other games.

Jaysonguy

Now about your other comment that the Gamecube nearly killed Nintendo...show me a new article that says this, show me something from a Nintendo financial report that shows them on a steady decline towards bankruptcy. I would love to read through it, because I was always lead to believe Nintendo churned a profit off the Gamecube. And when you throw in the handhelds(which you forgot in your other post so...) I would think Nintendo was well on their feet during that era. I don't know the numbers, but I would think the GBA and prior handhelds would be able to support Nintendo for many a year. Show me an article or something for this though, I would really love to read through it.

(This isn't directed at you Jasonguy, just everyone in general).

When you look at the games recently released by Nintendo & Friends(2nd Party) you will see something a tad bit odd. Large studios haven't been putting out games in a while.

• Camelot(making Nintendo games for 9 years now, known for Golden Sun) hasn't put out a game in 2 years. They weren't shut down as far as I can tell, we would have heard of something like that, so what happened?
• Intelligent Systems(Fire Emblem, Paper Mario, Warioware, Advanced Wars) These guys have the capacity to work on multiple projects at once, which has been shown in the past. Yet they have no new games announced and their last game came out in August of 08? That can't be right, but we know for a fact these guys still exist...so where are thier games? They aren't just sitting in an office somewhere are they?
• Retro Studios(Metroid Prime) We know they had some issues with some large figureheads leaving, but we heard about those in the news tickers, so we would have also heard of a complete shut down of the studio. They have nothing announced after nearly a year and a 1/2 of dormancy...they aren't just sitting around playing poker in the office are they?
• NST(nothing particularly note-worthy) Haven't put out a game in 2 years. They were slated to do HAMMER, but we all know where that went. The studio itself wasn't shuttered with it's lost project though....so what have they been doing.
• SPD(Help with anything that isn't EAD, Battalion Wars and Metroid Prime help) These guys are interesting, because they work on so many different things within their system. They help out with all sorts of games and channels(all Wii channels have gone through them at some point). And what appears to be their latest assignment was the DR. Mario RX for WiiWare. That was 9 or so months ago.

And then take a look at what Nintendo has announced. Another Code, Mario and Luigi 3, Sin and Punishment 2, Wii Sports Resort, Punch-Out!!...2 of those are in house developments from EAD and Alphadream, while the others don't affect the workforce that Nintendo employs at all. They have a few other games announced(Pikmin 3, Zelda and such), but that leaves you with a lot of empty space and that doesn't include what I listed up their.

So where did Nintendo go? They didn't just vanish, and they surely didn't shutter everything up their when they are making a profit...so perhaps their games are indeed coming, leaving us with Wiimakes to ease the wait? I dunno, but that is a lot of lousy workers if I am wrong.