Bioshock on Wii?

[QUOTE="JimmyJames210"]On-rails does not mean better visuals etc.JordanElek

Defending lightgun shooters when they're being made in place of better games doesn't make sense to me.Michael85

We all have the right to buy, play, and enjoy any game we want, and developers have the right to create any game they want. I've gotten hours and hours of enjoyment out of Umbrella Chronicles.... Why wouldn't I defend it?

The problem is they are ONLY making on-rails shooter or mini-games or shovelware. They are not making enough of the other games to satisfy the more hardcore gamers.

I want more FPS's, platformers, action, adventure, beat'em up, WRPG and JRPG.

Don't encourage Capcom to make games like that, they need to make a RE4-LIKE GAME THAT EVERYONE CAN ENJOY.

if they do make bioshock for the wii then its just going to end up being an on rail shooter

I want more FPS's, platformers, action, adventure, beat'em up, WRPG and JRPG.

Don't encourage Capcom to make games like that, they need to make a RE4-LIKE GAME THAT EVERYONE CAN ENJOY.JimmyJames210

People buy what they want to play. You're basically saying that I should buy chocolate cake even though I like apple pie better, just because you like chocolate cake more. It's a weak analogy, I know, but it's just a matter of preference in both cases. I buy games for enjoyment, not to make a statement or somehow manipulate the market to meet your preferences.

Dude, Zelda pretty much sold 1:1 with the console so don't dare say that Wii Fit beat it out, because it didn't

Wii Fit is just another one of those unnecessary mini-game collections you foolishly praise.

Wii needs games with substance

By the way, No More Heroes sold more than that.

JimmyJames210

Oh my, I had no idea that Zelda sold around 40 million units.

that would be soo awesome if that happened!!

Dude, Zelda pretty much sold 1:1 with the console so don't dare say that Wii Fit beat it out, because it didn't

JimmyJames210

Huh?

Wii sales: 48 million

Wii Fit sales: 17 million

Twilight Princess sales: 5 million

17 < 5 = 48?

I want more FPS's, platformers, action, adventure, beat'em up, WRPG and JRPG.

JimmyJames210

I've highlighted what is probably the most important part of your post. :P

The fact that you want something does not mean that everyone wants the same thing. I loved Umbrella Chronicles and am looking forward to Darkside Chronicles.

I think it's impossible.

A Wii owner who wants to play Bioshock should do one of several things.

1) Play it on PC

2) Play it on Xbox360

3) Play it on PS3

The graphics in this game are so amazing that it totally immerses you in Bioshocks world. Dumbing down the graphics would hurt this beautiful game. Don't wish for a dumb down port.

The Wii may be a good system but Wii owners (especially the people who only own a Wii) should understand what they are getting and supporting.

mikeyboygts

Thats a very good post, I totally agree with everything.

The Wii simply cant do BioShock justice. It just wouldn't be fair for someone to have to play a inferior version.I would compare it to reading a book vs. watching a movie of the same book. In this case BioShock on PC,360,or PS3 is the book, a Wii version would be the movie. Movies are never as good as the book.

[QUOTE="Michael85"]

Defending lightgun shooters when they're being made in place of better games doesn't make sense to me. Not when you have a competent developer making it.

Pretend Shaq decides to play an exhibition game for, I dunno, the Mavericks or something. But there's one catch: instead of playing like the post that he is, he's decided that he's going to shoot nothing but free throws. Say he makes four free throws out of five. For Shaq, that's absolutely fantastic. He sucks at free throws! We should all pat him on the back, right?Wrong. We should be pissed that he didn't post up and score 25 points instead of 8.

We shouldn't be happy that these great developers are shooting for merely "ok" when we know they are fully capable of shooting for "fantastic". Just as you shouldn't expect Shaq to score all of his points through free throws, you shouldn't expect capcom or ea to settle for light gun games when you know they can deliver critically acclaimed survival horror titles.

piratedrunk

And so every developer should always make the games you like? What if the games you consider to be fantastic aren't fun at all for other people. The problem is games are an art form and thus subject to opinion. There is no quality that makes a game perfect for everyone so you will get a wide variety of games. This is undoubtedly a good thing. You say the games you don't like are being made in place of other games (I will refrain from your use of better because as it is an opinion it only applies to you) when in actuality the other games you are talking about are often still in the works (and from the sounds of your opinion being made for other consoles). Developers like capcom always have a lot going on. They are big and usually have several projects on the go at the same time. They are no doubt working very hard at their next huge title and just use a smaller team to make fun light guns for the people who enjoy them, by people who enjoy them.

No, developers shouldn't be always making games that i like. They also shouldn't be wasting their time making rail shooters when we know they're fully capable of making a full-blown survival horror game. This ain't rocket science.

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]

[QUOTE="Michael85"]

Defending lightgun shooters when they're being made in place of better games doesn't make sense to me. Not when you have a competent developer making it.

Pretend Shaq decides to play an exhibition game for, I dunno, the Mavericks or something. But there's one catch: instead of playing like the post that he is, he's decided that he's going to shoot nothing but free throws. Say he makes four free throws out of five. For Shaq, that's absolutely fantastic. He sucks at free throws! We should all pat him on the back, right?Wrong. We should be pissed that he didn't post up and score 25 points instead of 8.

We shouldn't be happy that these great developers are shooting for merely "ok" when we know they are fully capable of shooting for "fantastic". Just as you shouldn't expect Shaq to score all of his points through free throws, you shouldn't expect capcom or ea to settle for light gun games when you know they can deliver critically acclaimed survival horror titles.

Michael85

And so every developer should always make the games you like? What if the games you consider to be fantastic aren't fun at all for other people. The problem is games are an art form and thus subject to opinion. There is no quality that makes a game perfect for everyone so you will get a wide variety of games. This is undoubtedly a good thing. You say the games you don't like are being made in place of other games (I will refrain from your use of better because as it is an opinion it only applies to you) when in actuality the other games you are talking about are often still in the works (and from the sounds of your opinion being made for other consoles). Developers like capcom always have a lot going on. They are big and usually have several projects on the go at the same time. They are no doubt working very hard at their next huge title and just use a smaller team to make fun light guns for the people who enjoy them, by people who enjoy them.

No, developers shouldn't be always making games that i like. They also shouldn't be wasting their time making rail shooters when we know they're fully capable of making a full-blown survival horror game. This ain't rocket science.

You really aren't grasping the point. There is nothing wrong with making rail shooters because rail shooters are fun to a lot of people. There is nothing fundamentally broken about them they are designed that way intentionally.. because people enjoy them. You enjoy survival horror games.. thats fine so do i and so do a lot of people. But people still make those. Just because they aren't making them all the time doesn't mean they will never make them again or anything. If you are really feeling that impatient maybe you could dip into the vast library of games already out there while you wait? This is what I do when I am waiting for new RPGs to come out.

You really aren't grasping the point. There is nothing wrong with making rail shooters because rail shooters are fun to a lot of people. There is nothing fundamentally broken about them they are designed that way intentionally.. because people enjoy them. You enjoy survival horror games.. thats fine so do i and so do a lot of people. But people still make those. Just because they aren't making them all the time doesn't mean they will never make them again or anything. If you are really feeling that impatient maybe you could dip into the vast library of games already out there while you wait? This is what I do when I am waiting for new RPGs to come out.

piratedrunk

No YOU'RE not grasping the point. If you want to make a rail shooter, that's fine. Hand it off to someone who's competent enough to make a rail shooter, but doesn't have enough experience to make something with more depth.

If you're Michael Jordan, you do not limit what you can do on the court just because you're now playing for a different team. Likewise, Redwood studios, the dead space guys, should not be limiting what they can do just because they're on the Wii.

Hell, this would make sense if they were actually trying to appeal to the broader demographic on Wii, but they're not. No lightgun game has ever appealled to this demographic. In fact, I'd say lightgun games only appeal to hardcore and core gamers, as absolutely zero of them have ever sold more than a million: great sales, for sure, but nowhere near what they're claming to be targetting. So if they're not targetting this broad demographic, I'd much rather they do what they're capable of doing in targetting the core demographic.

The real question here isn't "why are you hating on lightgun shooters" as much as it is "why should I settle for less".

[QUOTE="JimmyJames210"]

I want more FPS's, platformers, action, adventure, beat'em up, WRPG and JRPG.

GabuEx

I've highlighted what is probably the most important part of your post. :P

The fact that you want something does not mean that everyone wants the same thing. I loved Umbrella Chronicles and am looking forward to Darkside Chronicles.

I am only looking forward to the Conduit since High Voltage is currently the only Wii developer with some sense.

[QUOTE="JimmyJames210"]

Dude, Zelda pretty much sold 1:1 with the console so don't dare say that Wii Fit beat it out, because it didn't

GabuEx

Huh?

Wii sales: 48 million

Wii Fit sales: 17 million

Twilight Princess sales: 5 million

17 < 5 = 48?

Thank you for doing the math for me Gabs

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]

You really aren't grasping the point. There is nothing wrong with making rail shooters because rail shooters are fun to a lot of people. There is nothing fundamentally broken about them they are designed that way intentionally.. because people enjoy them. You enjoy survival horror games.. thats fine so do i and so do a lot of people. But people still make those. Just because they aren't making them all the time doesn't mean they will never make them again or anything. If you are really feeling that impatient maybe you could dip into the vast library of games already out there while you wait? This is what I do when I am waiting for new RPGs to come out.

Michael85

No YOU'RE not grasping the point. If you want to make a rail shooter, that's fine. Hand it off to someone who's competent enough to make a rail shooter, but doesn't have enough experience to make something with more depth.

If you're Michael Jordan, you do not limit what you can do on the court just because you're now playing for a different team. Likewise, Redwood studios, the dead space guys, should not be limiting what they can do just because they're on the Wii.

Hell, this would make sense if they were actually trying to appeal to the broader demographic on Wii, but they're not. No lightgun game has ever appealled to this demographic. In fact, I'd say lightgun games only appeal to hardcore and core gamers, as absolutely zero of them have ever sold more than a million: great sales, for sure, but nowhere near what they're claming to be targetting. So if they're not targetting this broad demographic, I'd much rather they do what they're capable of doing in targetting the core demographic.

The real question here isn't "why are you hating on lightgun shooters" as much as it is "why should I settle for less".

Nope, you still don't have it. There is nothing lacking in an on rails shooter. Capcom I'm sure know their demographics better than you do. I seriously doubt they are looking to target everyone who owns a Wii. The problem with you Michael Jordan analogy is he is one person. Capcom is a large company with divisions working on multiple projects. And they aren't neccessarily limiting themselves on the Wii. They are taking advantage of the Wii's strengths while utilizing other game systems for their strengths. You aren't settling for less but other gamers are getting something they enjoy. It is not a matter of this or that. It is a matter of this and that. If the division that handles the light gun games were not working on those there would be just as likely a case where they were doing something else YOU don't enjoy. So really it isn't hurting you in any way. Like I said before just because you like a particular type of game doesn't mean you will be catered to 100% of the time. If you can get over that you might relax enough to enjoy the diversity of games being put out rather than waste your energy wishing for more of what you want.

i kind of see a HUGE hole in that statement,he says "the complexity of bioshock",unfortuantely,it could mean the same as capcom did,expanding Resident evil to wii by way of ANOTHER rail shooter,as well as EA with deadspace extraction

*face palm*

Nope, you still don't have it. There is nothing lacking in an on rails shooter.

piratedrunk

Stopped reading after that. Lightgun games are lacking by definition. You CANNOT move your character. Listen bud, it's not like this is something that's new to gaming. You've been able to move your character ever since friggin Pong. Don't sit there and tell me that they're not lacking when they certainly are.

I know you like light gun games (i don't really care), but that's not the point. If you want light gun games IN PLACE OF other, deeper genres, by all means, indulge. But forgive me if i actually want something with substance in my console.

And they aren't neccessarily limiting themselves on the Wii. They are taking advantage of the Wii's strengths while utilizing other game systems for their strengths.

piratedrunk

This is the biggest bunch of balogne I've ever read. You're basically telling me that Capcom is taking advantage of the Wii with UC when they've already produced RE4 Wii Edition?

You're going to sit there and tell me that, even though RE4 is the inarguably better game, even though it offers more depth in gameplay, even though it sold more, and even though it looks better, that UC is the better example of Capcom taking advantage of the system?

No. That's EXTREMELY naive.

EDIT: And I'll not be participating further in this discussion. Please excuse me if I want something more out of my gaming experience than "point at screen and press B/shake to reload....repeat ad nauseum".

If you don't read my posts thats fine I'll post for the sake of the people who do read them. rail shooters are not missing anything because they are designed to be exactly the way they are. If you don't like the games thats fine. If you need to be able to move your character thats fine. But that doesn't mean you can speak for everyone. If every game developer made the types of games you want them to make the game industry would be an exceedingly boring one.

If you don't read my posts thats fine I'll post for the sake of the people who do read them. rail shooters are not missing anything because they are designed to be exactly the way they are. If you don't like the games thats fine. If you need to be able to move your character thats fine. But that doesn't mean you can speak for everyone. If every game developer made the types of games you want them to make the game industry would be an exceedingly boring one.

piratedrunk

No, a game industry full of rail shooters is a boring one.

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]

Nope, you still don't have it. There is nothing lacking in an on rails shooter.

Michael85

Stopped reading after that. Lightgun games are lacking by definition. You CANNOT move your character. Listen bud, it's not like this is something that's new to gaming. You've been able to move your character ever since friggin Pong. Don't sit there and tell me that they're not lacking when they certainly are.

I know you like light gun games (i don't really care), but that's not the point. If you want light gun games IN PLACE OF other, deeper genres, by all means, indulge. But forgive me if i actually want something with substance in my console.

And they aren't neccessarily limiting themselves on the Wii. They are taking advantage of the Wii's strengths while utilizing other game systems for their strengths.

piratedrunk

This is the biggest bunch of balogne I've ever read. You're basically telling me that Capcom is taking advantage of the Wii with UC when they've already produced RE4 Wii Edition?

You're going to sit there and tell me that, even though RE4 is the inarguably better game, even though it offers more depth in gameplay, even though it sold more, and even though it looks better, that UC is the better example of Capcom taking advantage of the system?

No. That's EXTREMELY naive.

No it is extremely naive to think that just because a game can be made it should be made that way each and every time. Who cares if resident evil 4 is better? umbrella chronicles is a DIFFERENT TYPE OF GAME. It appeals to different (or on my case and may others the same) people. They are taking advantages of the systems strengths just not in the ways you want them to. They are making the types of games you want on other systems. You should try them out they are good.

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]

If you don't read my posts thats fine I'll post for the sake of the people who do read them. rail shooters are not missing anything because they are designed to be exactly the way they are. If you don't like the games thats fine. If you need to be able to move your character thats fine. But that doesn't mean you can speak for everyone. If every game developer made the types of games you want them to make the game industry would be an exceedingly boring one.

JimmyJames210

No, a game industry full of rail shooters is a boring one.

But it isnt full of them. I certainly wouldn't want that either. But it does have them and that is a good thing. And it is a good thing that capcom makes them because they are good at it.

"And I'll not be participating further in this discussion. Please excuse me if I want something more out of my gaming experience than "point at screen and press B/shake to reload....repeat ad nauseum".

That's fine closed mindedness isn't condusive to discussion in the first place. Nobody is forcing you to play these games and there are plenty of options out there. That is the point. They are offering something different to those that want it.

They'd have to do an amazing job with the artstyle to keep the atmosphere. I think bioshock would benefit from going to the wii.. more interesting use of plasmids, better controls, no auto aim (it was horrible on the 360/ps3). the only think that would really suffer is graphics, which can, for the most part, be replaced with good art

and to all the people saying that it might be a rail shooter, i dont think that's even possible for a game like bioshock. RE and Dead Space are survival horror. That's why on rails works for those games.bioshock has only a VERY small horror aspect, but overall, its an action title. now imagine trying to take down a big daddy without being able to move (painful, huh?).. bioshock on rails wont happen.

Who cares if resident evil 4 is better?

piratedrunk

...Right.

This is why I'm no longer in this discussion. I have no idea how to respond to something like that.

Nobody is forcing you to play these games and there are plenty of options out there.

piratedrunk

Not at this rate, you won't. Pretty soon, all you will be getting are on-rails shooters. "On-Rails Shooters" is the next "Mini-Game Collection".

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]

Nobody is forcing you to play these games and there are plenty of options out there.

canadianloonie

Not at this rate, you won't. Pretty soon, all you will be getting are on-rails shooters. "On-Rails Shooters" is the next "Mini-Game Collection".

I never once even noticed an effect of mini-game collections on my game playing experience. Do you people live in towns that only get 5 games a year or am I missing something?

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]

Who cares if resident evil 4 is better?

Michael85

...Right.

This is why I'm no longer in this discussion. I have no idea how to respond to something like that.

I don't know if you quite understand the pricipal behind leaving a discussion but thats okay. Since you are here I will give you something to ponder about what I said. Is every game you play the best game you've ever played? Are all the games you play the exact same or do you like more than one kind? I personally have a very diverse game collection. I have First person shooters and RPGs and guitar hero and rock band, and i have resident evil 4 and 5 and umbrella chronicles. Games cover a lot of territory and different kinds can be appreciate for different reasons. I don't like umbrella chronicles as much as i like resident evil 4 but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have been made because when i am in the mood for a good rails shooter it is a lot of fun especially with a friend. Sometimes games are just for fun.

[QUOTE="canadianloonie"]

Not at this rate, you won't. Pretty soon, all you will be getting are on-rails shooters. "On-Rails Shooters" is the next "Mini-Game Collection".

piratedrunk

I never once even noticed an effect of mini-game collections on my game playing experience. Do you people live in towns that only get 5 games a year or am I missing something?

Even if you're lucky enough to have not played a single mini-game shovelware, your gaming experience is still affected...whether you noticed it or not. Everytime a developer decides cut corners and do a mini-game collection, it takes away time and money that could've been used to make a more quality game. A game that you could've enjoyed and have fun with. Unfortunately, you won't be able to experience it because a mini-game shovelware was made in its place.

You say there are plenty of choices. Let's talk about choices. For those of us who wants a new Resident Evil Wii game that's more than just an on-rail shooter, where's our choices?

I personally have a very diverse game collection. I have First person shooters and RPGs and guitar hero and rock band, and i have resident evil 4 and 5 and umbrella chronicles.

piratedrunk

For a person who value diversity, I'm surprise that you are not more concern about this Wii "on-rails shooter" trend. I have on-rails shooters in my collection too. But, I can only take so much of it. How many on-rails shooters do you want in your collection? There must be a point where you will eventually get sick of them, no? Are you seriously going to get all the new and upcoming on-rails shooters? HOTD Overkill, HOTD Overkill 2 (heavily hinted in Overkill's ending), Dead Space, Darkside Chronicles, etc?

For those of us who wants a new Resident Evil Wii game that's more than just an on-rail shooter, where's our choices?

canadianloonie

If that was a priority then you should have purchased the correct hardware

One console has never offered everything

So what does a person do?

They look down what they want to play and pick the hardware that plays it. If you wanted "traditional" Resident Evil so badly then you would look at your list and say "The Wii's not for me" and God bless, have a grand ol' time with different hardware

But no you didn't do that so when games go elsewhere know what that is? A constant reminder that next time you have to pick hardware you need to do it better

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]

[QUOTE="canadianloonie"]

I never once even noticed an effect of mini-game collections on my game playing experience. Do you people live in towns that only get 5 games a year or am I missing something?

canadianloonie

Even if you're lucky enough to have not played a single mini-game shovelware, your gaming experience is still affected...whether you noticed it or not. Everytime a developer decides cut corners and do a mini-game collection, it takes away time and money that could've been used to make a more quality game. A game that you could've enjoyed and have fun with. Unfortunately, you won't be able to experience it because a mini-game shovelware was made in its place.

You say there are plenty of choices. Let's talk about choices. For those of us who wants a new Resident Evil Wii game that's more than just an on-rail shooter, where's our choices?

That is again your own opinion of what should be made though. There are obviously enough people buying those minigame collections to warrant their existence so clearly the money spent on making them is not an issue because they must be making money from them. As far as the time spent on them I will again say that if they weren't making Game A, which you don't want, they won't neccessarily use it to make game B which you do want, they might make game C which you also don't want. Your opinion of what you want and you think should be made isn't neccessarily the best course of action for the developer or for gamers in general. You want a resident evil game for Wii that isn't a shooter yes.. but that is a specific thing you are asking for that they might not be willing to provide as they are already creating that experience on different consoles. Maybe that isn't where they want to spend their time and money when they could be using it elsewhere? see what i did there? anyways I understand your frustration if i did not own all the major consoles I would probably be hoping for such a thing as well but I did my research before i picked what console i wanted and knew this would probably be an issue. I was just lucky enough to be able to spread out my purchases to eventually get all 3.

I personally have a very diverse game collection. I have First person shooters and RPGs and guitar hero and rock band, and i have resident evil 4 and 5 and umbrella chronicles.

piratedrunk

For a person who value diversity, I'm surprise that you are not more concern about this Wii "on-rails shooter" trend. I have on-rails shooters in my collection too. But, I can only take so much of it. How many on-rails shooters do you want in your collection? There must be a point where you will eventually get sick of them, no? Are you seriously going to get all the new and upcoming on-rails shooters? HOTD Overkill, HOTD Overkill 2 (heavily hinted in Overkill's ending), Dead Space, Darkside Chronicles, etc?

I am not concerned about the "trend" because I have been playing games long enough to know that one genre will never be the only genre left and that i don't need to buy every game that comes out (should be obvious). So when I have had my fill of on rails i just don't buy any more. I didn't buy HOTD and don't plan on it because it just doesn't look as good as umbrella chronicles to me. Umbrella chronicles is in fact the only on rails in my collection. It really isn'y like they are the only games coming out even if it seems like it to people who want a more "hardcore" experience on the Wii.

Well it's entirely possible, although it definitely would have to be remade with an entirely different graphics engine. WhiteSnake5000

I wouldn't play it. Don't need a game like that on the Wii

[QUOTE="canadianloonie"]

You say there are plenty of choices. Let's talk about choices. For those of us who wants a new Resident Evil Wii game that's more than just an on-rail shooter, where's our choices?

piratedrunk

That is again your own opinion of what should be made though. *SNIP* Your opinion of what you want and you think should be made isn't neccessarily the best course of action for the developer or for gamers in general. You want a resident evil game for Wii that isn't a shooter yes.. but that is a specific thing you are asking for that they might not be willing to provide as they are already creating that experience on different consoles. Maybe that isn't where they want to spend their time and money when they could be using it elsewhere? see what i did there? anyways I understand your frustration if i did not own all the major consoles I would probably be hoping for such a thing as well but I did my research before i picked what console i wanted and knew this would probably be an issue. I was just lucky enough to be able to spread out my purchases to eventually get all 3.

It is irrelevant whether a new full-fledge Resident Evil game for the Wii is the best course of action for Capcom or not. The fact is that a lot of gamers (not just me) would love to have a new Resident Evil game of the same quality as Resident Evil 4. Since when is it wrong to want and ask for something?. We both are asking a specific type of game. You are asking for an on-rails shooter. The rest of us are asking for more. The only difference is that your itch was scratched and the rest of us weren't.

As for getting the other consoles, I've done my research as well and I have my own reasons for not getting them. 360 is just too flaky for my taste...online gaming is not my thing...and I can play the FPS and RPG that interest me on my PC. For PS3, I own a PSP to be leary about game droughts, overhyped 1st party games and lack of 3rd party support. So, I guess I'm out of luck and out of choices...

It might not happen nobody knows about it yet.

I think it would probably be an on-rails shooter, which isn't a bad thing. The new Dead Space looks awesome.

I think it would probably be an on-rails shooter, which isn't a bad thing. The new Dead Space looks awesome.

maverick_41

Yes, it is a bad thing.

[QUOTE="canadianloonie"]

For those of us who wants a new Resident Evil Wii game that's more than just an on-rail shooter, where's our choices?

Jaysonguy

If that was a priority then you should have purchased the correct hardware

One console has never offered everything

So what does a person do?

They look down what they want to play and pick the hardware that plays it. If you wanted "traditional" Resident Evil so badly then you would look at your list and say "The Wii's not for me" and God bless, have a grand ol' time with different hardware

But no you didn't do that so when games go elsewhere know what that is? A constant reminder that next time you have to pick hardware you need to do it better

2. What if he wanted a game similar to RE4 with the Wii Remote Controls?

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="canadianloonie"]

For those of us who wants a new Resident Evil Wii game that's more than just an on-rail shooter, where's our choices?

gmc2u_64

If that was a priority then you should have purchased the correct hardware

One console has never offered everything

So what does a person do?

They look down what they want to play and pick the hardware that plays it. If you wanted "traditional" Resident Evil so badly then you would look at your list and say "The Wii's not for me" and God bless, have a grand ol' time with different hardware

But no you didn't do that so when games go elsewhere know what that is? A constant reminder that next time you have to pick hardware you need to do it better

2. What if he wanted a game similar to RE4 with the Wii Remote Controls?

It is irrelevant whether a new full-fledge Resident Evil game for the Wii is the best course of action for Capcom or not. The fact is that a lot of gamers (not just me) would love to have a new Resident Evil game of the same quality as Resident Evil 4. Since when is it wrong to want and ask for something?. We both are asking a specific type of game. You are asking for an on-rails shooter. The rest of us are asking for more. The only difference is that your itch was scratched and the rest of us weren't.

As for getting the other consoles, I've done my research as well and I have my own reasons for not getting them. 360 is just too flaky for my taste...online gaming is not my thing...and I can play the FPS and RPG that interest me on my PC. For PS3, I own a PSP to be leary about game droughts, overhyped 1st party games and lack of 3rd party support. So, I guess I'm out of luck and out of choices...

canadianloonie

Out of luck? You already have the best gaming platform: PC :D

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with wanting something that's not currently on the platform. To say otherwise is absurd, since if you are only "allowed" to want what you already have, then there is no such thing as wanting, because you already have it. The only option is to want what you don't have, and there is no alternative. And of course people are allowed to have wants and desires.

The problem though is that you think that you are "asking for more", as if on-rails shooters are innately less than other genres, which isn't true (personal preference.) You're assuming that going for an on-rails shooter is evidence in itself of a cop-out. But on-rails shooters can have high production values. Sure, you may not like that genre and you're absolutely entitled to want games in other genres on the Wii, but don't count your chickens as still-borns and throw away the eggs before waiting for them to hatch, or something like that. :P

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

If that was a priority then you should have purchased the correct hardware

One console has never offered everything

So what does a person do?

They look down what they want to play and pick the hardware that plays it. If you wanted "traditional" Resident Evil so badly then you would look at your list and say "The Wii's not for me" and God bless, have a grand ol' time with different hardware

But no you didn't do that so when games go elsewhere know what that is? A constant reminder that next time you have to pick hardware you need to do it better

umcommon

2. What if he wanted a game similar to RE4 with the Wii Remote Controls?

that would be coolio

I don't think he was talking about tech, he was talking about design.

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It is irrelevant whether a new full-fledge Resident Evil game for the Wii is the best course of action for Capcom or not. The fact is that a lot of gamers (not just me) would love to have a new Resident Evil game of the same quality as Resident Evil 4. Since when is it wrong to want and ask for something?. We both are asking a specific type of game. You are asking for an on-rails shooter. The rest of us are asking for more. The only difference is that your itch was scratched and the rest of us weren't.

As for getting the other consoles, I've done my research as well and I have my own reasons for not getting them. 360 is just too flaky for my taste...online gaming is not my thing...and I can play the FPS and RPG that interest me on my PC. For PS3, I own a PSP to be leary about game droughts, overhyped 1st party games and lack of 3rd party support. So, I guess I'm out of luck and out of choices...

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Out of luck? You already have the best gaming platform: PC :D

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with wanting something that's not currently on the platform. To say otherwise is absurd, since if you are only "allowed" to want what you already have, then there is no such thing as wanting, because you already have it. The only option is to want what you don't have, and there is no alternative. And of course people are allowed to have wants and desires.

The problem though is that you think that you are "asking for more", as if on-rails shooters are innately less than other genres, which isn't true (personal preference.) You're assuming that going for an on-rails shooter is evidence in itself of a cop-out. But on-rails shooters can have high production values. Sure, you may not like that genre and you're absolutely entitled to want games in other genres on the Wii, but don't count your chickens as still-borns and throw away the eggs before waiting for them to hatch, or something like that. :P

That was a great way of putting it. And just so we are clear here.. I am only defending the idea of the on rails shooter. I am not saying you shouldn't want something else and I am also not saying I am asking for an on rails shooter. I enjoy them yes but I would also probably get more enjoyment out of something closer to resident evil 4. What I was talking about was we are not missing out by getting an on rails shooter we are just getting something else. And sometimes something else is sweet. Not better, just sweet. And canadianloonie I can see where you are coming from about your decisions about the other consoles.. but as an owner of all 3 I can say that even owning 2 (my preference would for sure go to Wii and PS3) you greatly expand your options and there is a pretty huge catalog of great games out there and coming up. If the PS3 does indeed drop in price soon you should take another look (again not trying to be rude about your choice of the Wii just some advice from one gamer to another). I certainly don't think it is silly by any means to want something.. but I think that being upset you got something you didn't want is not only a waste of energy but a potential barrier to trying something new that you could actually have a lot of fun with if you don't take your games so seriously.