Can nintendo combat this?

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#51 Head_of_games
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Of course they can! While if the system works as it should all the third-parties making shooters and such for the PS3 and 360 will run over to Onlive, Nintendo will always have it's amazing first-party games, "casual" appeal, and amazing innovation. Nintendo can stand online, though i'm not sure about the other consoles. PC is definitely doomed if the system actually works right.
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#52 snover2009
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]I hate that. I like having my games. Boxes and booklets and all.Legolas_Katarn
Same here.

I also like to keep hard copies of my games.

Big problem with this, if the internet goes down, you can't play. But with a console, you don't need internet to play.

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#53 kardine
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The question is, will Nintendo pick up on this? Being that they still have not risen to some very basic standards in storage medium, online play, and online communication, how will they raise to this? The company will take the biggest chances in the industry but when any tech advancement has the slightest chance of alienating their audience they do not use it.

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#54 firefox59
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If it can truly bring PC games to the TV so that you don't have to spend $400 on a video card then ok. But if they are trying to do more than that this could be trouble.

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#55 link027
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Meh. Idk i am meloncholy about this
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#56 sman3579
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The controler looks stupid

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#57 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]I hate that. I like having my games. Boxes and booklets and all.Legolas_Katarn
Same here.

yeah it sucks in my opinion and I dont really see the need for the change
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#58 danger_ranger95
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this imo, is a great idea...but think it's too early. Nintendo just opened the industry doors to "everyone" and now, this pops up. Don't get me wrong, it does show great innovation in terms of what it could do for everyone.....but I don't think the public/market is ready for something like this. I see this as the auto industry's "concept car". It will eventually happen, but not until it would be marketable.

When this does happen (because it will someday), us kids better hold onto our "hard copies" of software. If you think games like Pikmin, etc. are hard to find now....just wait until they completely vanish. Collectors would have gold mines!!!!!!!

Reminds me of the one Cowboy Bebop episodewhen the charactersfind some old VCR cassettes and has no idea what they are...and the dealer is charging a fortune for a player.

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#59 ronisize15
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Hey You Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember when Sega Tv Came out? Remember how the concept was great but in the end it sucked! This is the same thing. Don't believe the hype..don't..don't..don't believe the hype!

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#60 pimpmusterd
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I'm a collector and I quite like the idea. I understand the need to buy something tangible, but its possible disk based games could go the way of the CD in the next decade. When downloadable music started you had people saying similar things. "I like having the CD and reading the lyrics in the sleeve while I listen to it" etc.

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Some people ment what they said about likeing cds and do that still (myself) so im sure people will still buy the game discs if they are given that option.

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#61 RandolphScott
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i know what you mean. this could definantly have its avantages though. maybe games will stop being 50 bucks when companies need so many materials. i can also see alot of independent gaming coming out of this. micahismyname
I'd rather keep paying fifty bucks for games I can play when I want as long as I want, as opposed to streaming games I buy on a service that also has a subscription fee, the quality of those games being dependent on the quality and cost of my internet service. Not to mention that if (when) Onlive goes belly up, you'll have jack squat to show for it,as you never actually got a copy or even a download of the game at all. It also only streams select PC games. Nintendo appeals to everyone, has unique and intuitive controller interfaces, and a selection of games approachable by people of all kinds. Onlive streams select PC games that have a decided hardcore slant and is basically designed for graphics whores who don't want to upgrade their rigs. Their is absolutely nothing their to combat. It's Web TV turned into a game platform, utterly worthless. The Wii will wipe it's ass with this niche little gadget.

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#62 RandolphScott
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If this gets a lot of customers, and barring an extravagant price I don't see why it wouldn't, then it will force the console makers to rethink their treatment of developers and their distribution practices. For PC devs, this is a godsend without question - no piracy and everyone meets the minimum requirements to play.clicketyclick
LMAO. If it gets a lot of support? Please. The crowd of people this appeals to and can be fully utilized by is painfully narrow. In fact most of the people with the connections to make this really work are hardcore PC gamers, who have all pretty unanimously laughed their asses off at this thing, playing on it would gimp their experience. Not to mention the simple fact that the incredibly large and vibrant numbers of people who pirate games aren't just going to up and say "yeah, lets stop doing that and submit to the ultimate form of DRM and gimp our experience from what our super rigs can do". It won't appeal to PC gamers, and the large crowd Nintendo brought in this gen wouldn't want it either. That leaves Onlive with the scraps from the table of the 360 and PS3, at best. Which isn't enough to sustain a service that will need such massive and expensive rigs and servers to make it basically function.
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#63 loco145
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That thing will fop.
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#64 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="micahismyname"]i know what you mean. this could definantly have its avantages though. maybe games will stop being 50 bucks when companies need so many materials. i can also see alot of independent gaming coming out of this. RandolphScott

I'd rather keep paying fifty bucks for games I can play when I want as long as I want, as opposed to streaming games I buy on a service that also has a subscription fee, the quality of those games being dependent on the quality and cost of my internet service. Not to mention that if (when) Onlive goes belly up, you'll have jack squat to show for it,as you never actually got a copy or even a download of the game at all. It also only streams select PC games. Nintendo appeals to everyone, has unique and intuitive controller interfaces, and a selection of games approachable by people of all kinds. Onlive streams select PC games that have a decided hardcore slant and is basically designed for graphics whores who don't want to upgrade their rigs. Their is absolutely nothing their to combat. It's Web TV turned into a game platform, utterly worthless. The Wii will wipe it's ass with this niche little gadget.

I agree completely. It's bad enough we rely on technology to save our stuff on harddrives. With that taken away, we don't have any type of "copy" whatsoever. If it come down to it, I will pay premium for a disk and a console that does not upgrade it's hardware. At least I know I can play it as long as I have a TV and electricity.

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#65 Master_Hermes
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I hate that. I like having my games. Boxes and booklets and all.AlexSays

Same here but I like being able to play my games even more. This kind of thing is a God send for people like me who like PC gaming but can't and/or are unwilling invest the money, time and patenice required for the hardware. I welcome it for PC gaming but I think Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft will fight like hell to keep this away from the console relm.

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#66 flarebrass13
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I think a lot of people are against this. I hate downloading games that I actually want to play. Wiiware etc is different. I would never just download new nintendo games I like have the actual product as i'm sure lots of people do.

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#67 FFCYAN
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I think a lot of people are against this. I hate downloading games that I actually want to play. Wiiware etc is different. I would never just download new nintendo games I like have the actual product as i'm sure lots of people do.

flarebrass13

All of you are forgetting that there IS NO DOWNLOADING. With Onlive you download nothing at all. You have zero "copies" of anything. Onlive mearly streams the game. You pay for the right to play it, not to "own" it.

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#68 Mike885
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lol, from the sounds of it, it sounds dumb, also the monthly fee would probably be expensive. It sounds more like a computer geek system.

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#69 firefox59
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="flarebrass13"]

I think a lot of people are against this. I hate downloading games that I actually want to play. Wiiware etc is different. I would never just download new nintendo games I like have the actual product as i'm sure lots of people do.

All of you are forgetting that there IS NO DOWNLOADING. With Onlive you download nothing at all. You have zero "copies" of anything. Onlive mearly streams the game. You pay for the right to play it, not to "own" it.

What about save data? Anyone know how that will work?
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#70 elbert_b_23
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]I hate that. I like having my games. Boxes and booklets and all.

thats how i fell and a lot of others i don't think that hard copy games will ever fully go away i have a bad feeling that the OnLive wont work as well as they are hoping even more so if there's 50,000 people trying to play the same game or if some one can't play a game they want to because there's a few thousand people already playing it. I may end up wrong but i have a feeling that the kinks wont be worked out for a year or so
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#71 clicketyclick
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I'm not sure if the people here know - it seems like many don't - but this isn't futuretech. OnLive booths were set up at GDC and people were playing Crysis and I think Burnout Paradise (?) on little netbooks and Macbook Air. People from 1UP were saying it absolutely does work, and they were shocked. They said it's only a slight, barely noticeable difference from playing the games on high-end computers.
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[QUOTE="micahismyname"]i know what you mean. this could definantly have its avantages though. maybe games will stop being 50 bucks when companies need so many materials. i can also see alot of independent gaming coming out of this. RandolphScott

I'd rather keep paying fifty bucks for games I can play when I want as long as I want, as opposed to streaming games I buy on a service that also has a subscription fee, the quality of those games being dependent on the quality and cost of my internet service. Not to mention that if (when) Onlive goes belly up, you'll have jack squat to show for it,as you never actually got a copy or even a download of the game at all. It also only streams select PC games. Nintendo appeals to everyone, has unique and intuitive controller interfaces, and a selection of games approachable by people of all kinds. Onlive streams select PC games that have a decided hardcore slant and is basically designed for graphics whores who don't want to upgrade their rigs. Their is absolutely nothing their to combat. It's Web TV turned into a game platform, utterly worthless. The Wii will wipe it's ass with this niche little gadget.

good job not sounding rude and ignorant :|

lets clear some things up again...

you never own the game just the right to play it

isnt it more likely your mom steps on your halo 3 disc then onlive going bankrupt? also stardock has come up with a soulotion

why is being a graphics whore such a bad thing?!

this is not utterly worthless examples if you own a mac,if you like to play pc games on your tv, if you allready have a high speed internet, if your a graphics whore and you hope devs make better looking games, or if you dont like downloading patchs , or anything for that matter.

edit and what clicky said this is hapening and its coming this winter betas in the summer

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#73 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="flarebrass13"]

I think a lot of people are against this. I hate downloading games that I actually want to play. Wiiware etc is different. I would never just download new nintendo games I like have the actual product as i'm sure lots of people do.

firefox59

All of you are forgetting that there IS NO DOWNLOADING. With Onlive you download nothing at all. You have zero "copies" of anything. Onlive mearly streams the game. You pay for the right to play it, not to "own" it.

What about save data? Anyone know how that will work?

Your saves would be on their network. You could pick up where you left off. At least that is what was demonstrated on the videos I've seen. Still, everything from save data to the game itself rely on Onlive's network infrastructure.

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#74 jigie
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this looks nice... but I still want to physically have my games with me.
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#75 mariokart64fan
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pft .. thAt thing is for pcs,, there for you fail , nintendo sony or microsoft wont ev en support it, its like a updated steam , , thats all, munus the mouse and keyboard,, ,

this will not be a wii 2 a ps4 or a 720 , ,