Capcom Making Wii Owners Pay For Their Mistakes

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#51 Jaysonguy
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We already knew this. The Wii prints money for everyone.firefox59

Yes it does, but that's not exactly the point here.

Some devs like EA make their own Wii exclusive studios and others like Namco/Bandai even go so far as to make studios that are a joint partnership with Nintendo.

Capcom has decided that instead of spending money towards new games they're very comfortable having a whole line directed towards covering up the company's mistakes and making money.

Okami and Monster Hunter are two games that were failures for Capcom that they brought/are bringing to the Wii to try to get out of the red.

Imagine if all publishers went that direction. If they started taking all the failed efforts from last gen and the ones that had to be scrapped this gen and released them on the Wii only looking to cover their losses.

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#52 BubbyJello
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[QUOTE="firefox59"]We already knew this. The Wii prints money for everyone.Jaysonguy

Yes it does, but that's not exactly the point here.

Some devs like EA make their own Wii exclusive studios and others like Namco/Bandai even go so far as to make studios that are a joint partnership with Nintendo.

Capcom has decided that instead of spending money towards new games they're very comfortable having a whole line directed towards covering up the company's mistakes and making money.

Okami and Monster Hunter are two games that were failures for Capcom that they brought/are bringing to the Wii to try to get out of the red.

Imagine if all publishers went that direction. If they started taking all the failed efforts from last gen and the ones that had to be scrapped this gen and released them on the Wii only looking to cover their losses.

If they're quality, why does it matter?

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#53 GameOverKayo
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"]We already knew this. The Wii prints money for everyone.BubbyJello

Yes it does, but that's not exactly the point here.

Some devs like EA make their own Wii exclusive studios and others like Namco/Bandai even go so far as to make studios that are a joint partnership with Nintendo.

Capcom has decided that instead of spending money towards new games they're very comfortable having a whole line directed towards covering up the company's mistakes and making money.

Okami and Monster Hunter are two games that were failures for Capcom that they brought/are bringing to the Wii to try to get out of the red.

Imagine if all publishers went that direction. If they started taking all the failed efforts from last gen and the ones that had to be scrapped this gen and released them on the Wii only looking to cover their losses.

If they're quality, why does it matter?

Exactly. Okami and RE4 was great even if they are "ports"

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#54 elbert_b_23
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you say that monster hunter is a failure but if i remember right monster hunter for the psp was one of the most sold games in japan for 4 months, in japan monster hunter was huge, i am not sure how it was in america, i was shocked when i heard that monster hunter 3 will be a wii game, maybe they thought the the controls would be better for the wii
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#55 helium_flash
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Is RE Wiimake coming to the US? I just bough REmake for my Wii, so maybe I should have waited? Whatever. I hope that Capcom will start working on some decent and new projects for the Wii.
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#56 Fredrick2003x
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Wiimake REmake, I like that.

Capcom went downhill for me the minute they took Resident Evil Outbreak offline...

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#57 nomadph
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What do you do TC? Stay up all night thinking of this? God dang man. . .lolmothergaia

i'd like to know the answer to this too. lol

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#58 Dymond7
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I don't agree with you, I mean yes, it's really easy to tell that Capcom doesn't want to spend a lot of money and time on the Wii, because they're just porting games to get some pocket money to fund a huge game like Resident Evil 5, which is coming out on the 360/PS3.

but, I actually WANT the port's, I never got a chance to play Okami on the PS2 and now I own it and I can play it on the Wii, I mean port's are made so people who don't own a specific system can play a good game, and Capcom hasn't even said much about Monster Hunter 3, I personally hate the series, but I don't think they're just going to make a fast game to make some quick cash.

but still you might be right because up until now, they havent even released a single original title for the Wii, and they are trying to make some quick money so... I don't know, I'm just rambling on, Megaman 9 is great and all that, but it's pretty obvious they're trying to make some quick money.

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#59 Toro_Nev
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I think remakes are ok, but we need more new games as well.
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#60 Travo_basic
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Don't support their titles on Wii. Problem solved.xboxplayer1990
Or Capcom could make original titles for the Wii. Problem solve with a better solution. Let's not forget Dead Rising. It might actually have better controls, but still just another port.
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#61 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Don't support their titles on Wii. Problem solved.Travo_basic
Or Capcom could make original titles for the Wii. Problem solve with a better solution. Let's not forget Dead Rising. It might actually have better controls, but still just another port.

its not even good enough to be called a port. it's just...fugly
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#62 Sepewrath
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Holy bananas!

I do more then this one topic. Though I must apologize, I planned on having more time to "tend" this thread todaywhich turned out to change in the afternoon.

Now onto talking

[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]

When it comes to Capcom, there is some truth to what Jaysonguy is saying, they are going nuts with the remakes in an effort to recoup losses. It is much cheaper and more profitable to port a popular game than it is to develop a brand new game that may not sell that well. However I would group Monster Hunter 3 with that list of games, because while they did bring it to the Wii becasue they feel it will be more profitable. Thats not a bad thing, its a new title from a franchise, that history shows to produce solid titles. Its like SE bringing KH3 to the Wii and complaining about it.

Jaysonguy

I don't think you can put Monster Hunter in that category because the only reason it's on the Wii is to save their keisters.

It's not like they looked at the Wii and the market saturation and decided to make a game for the console. Instead they had a game on another platform and they worked on it until they decided that it wasn't worth it. Instead of just scrapping the idea and moving on they knew they could greatly cut the game down and release it on the Wii.

Greatly cut the game down? You cant make claims like that without any evidence behind it, besides an announcement you never saw the game or had any information on it. You cant just say whatever you want based on wild guesses and expect people to take you seriously. And welcome to the world of business, you don't invest a bunch of money into something and then just call it quits. Yes they felt it was pointless to make the game on the PS3 and decided to go the the Wii, but what makes that any different from Dead Space being on the 360/PS3 or the new Prince of Persia or Crysis being on the PC. Devs simply look at the best market for their product and go with it, what do you expect them do, go with the market where they are least likely to have success. We enjoy games, but first and foremost this is an industry, common sense rules. So it would be stupid to scrap it and if you were in the industry or any industry for that matter you wouldn't just scrap a product and throw massive amounts of money down the drai. You would look for the best place to sell your product, so no Monster Hunter 3 does not belong in your little tirade here.

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#63 yeahyeahbigN
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i cant wait for monster hunter 3. seems promising!
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#64 SirSpudly
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It seems that all Capcom Vs. Tatsunoko console talk was speculation until the Wii version was announced. I was certain I had read confirmation of a PS3 offering.

The question still persists, if the original game is in full HD, and if SFIV won't come to Wii until every sprite is re-drawn, and if it will take about 14 months to re-draw all the sprites, how does a Wii version of CvT come out the same month as the arcade version?

Port or planned all along? That will become very well known come December.

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#65 Jaysonguy
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I don't mind ports, ports are awesome.

Take games, slap on some BUTTON CONTROLS (not movements) and release them again for 24.99.

What bothers me is that they don't port games over. They take developers that have difficulty operating a doorknob flawlessly and have them make these games again. That's how we end up with games like ugly Okami.

Porting games? Love it.

Greatly cut the game down? You cant make claims like that without any evidence behind it, besides an announcement you never saw the game or had any information on it. You cant just say whatever you want based on wild guesses and expect people to take you seriously. And welcome to the world of business, you don't invest a bunch of money into something and then just call it quits. Yes they felt it was pointless to make the game on the PS3 and decided to go the the Wii, but what makes that any different from Dead Space being on the 360/PS3 or the new Prince of Persia or Crysis being on the PC. Devs simply look at the best market for their product and go with it, what do you expect them do, go with the market where they are least likely to have success. We enjoy games, but first and foremost this is an industry, common sense rules. So it would be stupid to scrap it and if you were in the industry or any industry for that matter you wouldn't just scrap a product and throw massive amounts of money down the drai. You would look for the best place to sell your product, so no Monster Hunter 3 does not belong in your little tirade here.

Sepewrath

Yes, cut the game down.

Monster Hunter is trash. Capcom threw the game away. It's trash that Capcom decided they could brush off and sell to Wii owners. Capcom threw it's cake in the trash, scraped off the parts that were touching garbage, rewrapped it and are going to sell it to someone else.

I'm not making this up to fit my needs. Monster Hunter met the same sort of development problems that Infinite Undiscovery faced. Japanese devs not really sure how to utilize the high end hardware. Infinite Undiscovery was released and wasn't well received with critics saying it's a last gen game running on current gen hardware.

Capcom decided to salvage Monster Hunter. INstead of releasing it on that other console they're releasing it on the Wii hoping they can get more sales.

If Capcom couldn't put it on the Wii the game would never get made, it isn't good enough.

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#67 komdosina
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Good this is where I really despise Wii owners much of the time. Capcom makes some of the best third-party Wii games and people like the thread starter whine and **** RE remake will most likely stay in Japan just like RE0 and they still whine. Dead Rising isn't even finished and you still whine. Monster Hunter 3 is no-where near finished and yet you **** about a game that won't be out until next year that you haven;t played. TC do the world a favor sell your Wii and jump off a bridge, that way we can save the gene pool from more internet forum whiners like you. Or maybe Capcom should just cancel all Wii projects right now and then we will have areal baby crying fest right here right now. That's my rant for the night.
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#68 likesstuff
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Okami a disaster? I think it's an awesome game unless your talking about sales then I don't know much about that.
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#69 Ganados0
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Dead Rising isn't a port, it's been rebuilt. My only complaint there is the lack of motion controls the baseball bat implied you shake the remote a bit rather then swing it.
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#70 Popadophalis
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Say what you like Capcom is currently my favourite third party on any system and they've been the only major Japanese company to give the wii *any* support so for that I'm grateful. Oh and your statement that Ready at Dawn studios is an inferior dev team is absolute rubbish.
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#71 lancea34
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You know, I would actually buy Resident Evil 0 and REmake for the Wii since I can't find the GameCube versions and I can't buy online.:|
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#72 SirSpudly
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And the proof shall appear in the pudding:

Capcom showed 'Tatsunoko Vs Capcom Cross Generation of Heroes', their latest brawler – but along with this launch, the company revealed that the game was running on architecture based on the Nintendo Wii. Rumored to be similar to the TriForce platform, the new system offers a low cost route to market for Capcom, and also ensures that the planned home release of the game will be a direct conversion to the home platform.

It seems the truth is that the arcade and Wii versions are the same, making this similar to F-Zero GX. I applaud this, and hope to support it in the future.

The low-cost quip still irks me though.