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#51 nnfnnfnfnnfnnf
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Hey doesn't nintendo already have a franchise about a bounty hunter?
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[QUOTE="icarus212001"]

for a "21" year old, he's not very attentive, is he? :|

BrooklynHotBoy

but we have people like you whom insist on instigating to expland the problem.

i'm being professional and stating my peace whether he reads it or not. no harm in that. its just a reiteration and a good bye. nothing added to spark back up an argument.

grow up.

exactly, when u debate u attack the persons arguement not the person.

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#53 Cyber-
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did it ever occur that he just put a whole gym in the comfort of your own room and more incentive and fun.

I have to say he did another genius project.

He may have ideas about online and interface that iI totally disagree with but hes made all the great games we play today.

I dont think you know much about what he has done.

As for F-Zero I dont know why you want a 3rd person action game for something has been a racer. You can put any character in a 3rd person action game i dont know why you have to use the Captain. If anything they need to get the same Sega dev team to make this F-Zero as the one on GC. That game was amazing and was also guided by Miyamoto. I just hope they will make anothe F-Zero that is like GX with more story. I love how they had voice acting and great cutscenes.

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he put a gym in the comfort of your own room?? wow

I go to gold's gym about 5-6 days a week and have been in sports all my life as well as started really working out at the age of 14. i know a good deal about the human body to tell you that this board will not put you in a shape. There is no cardio work out involved in this at all (unless you wanna partially include the hulaaa-hoop thingy) and cardio work out is the key to being healthy and getting in shape. you will have a better chance losing weight and/or getting in shape with dance dance revolution than wii fit.

i also no a great deal of miyamoto's work and what hes done for the video game industry. but why are you guys continuingly saying I lack knowledge in his work because I say he fell of his creative horse. that doesn't make any sense. He was good at one time hes not really at his best now. how hard is that to comprehend. you people are misctronuing what i'm saying and making it out to seem as though i said he is irrelevant to gaming.

For the average person this is really nice. Not everyone gos to the gym let alone 5-6 times a day. most people are lazy and would never do something that reqires work everyday. Wii Fit fixes alot of this because it makes working out fun and convenient not to mention it tracks all your progress. Its a great idea if you cant see I really dont care.

The way of Japan's development is splitting dramatically from what is happening in the west. Just because you dont agree with what Miyamoto thinks does not mean he is wrong. Theres alot of stuff I dont agree with but hes done more good than bad and is obviously one of the greatest influentials out there. Please stop while your behind you dont understand what Miyamoto is doing and you dont get Wii Fit.

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#54 Ospov
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Maybe make it an optional part of the new F-Zero game for whenever it comes out on the Wii. If it's put together well and people like it they might do something to add onto that later on.

Oh, and he would Falcon Punch and people would show him their moves.

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#55 icarus212001
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[QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

for a "21" year old, he's not very attentive, is he? :|

shenron53

but we have people like you whom insist on instigating to expland the problem.

i'm being professional and stating my peace whether he reads it or not. no harm in that. its just a reiteration and a good bye. nothing added to spark back up an argument.

grow up.

exactly, when u debate u attack the persons arguement not the person.

i'm sorry. i've been having a rough day. plus there's a certain 21 year old that i want to bash in the face (not you brooklyn) so i apologize for my brash comments. no hard feelings, eh?

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#56 BrooklynHotBoy
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[QUOTE="shenron53"][QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

for a "21" year old, he's not very attentive, is he? :|

icarus212001

but we have people like you whom insist on instigating to expland the problem.

i'm being professional and stating my peace whether he reads it or not. no harm in that. its just a reiteration and a good bye. nothing added to spark back up an argument.

grow up.

exactly, when u debate u attack the persons arguement not the person.

i'm sorry. i've been having a rough day. plus there's a certain 21 year old that i want to bash in the face (not you brooklyn) so i apologize for my brash comments. no hard feelings, eh?

this means war!!!!

lol. no hard feelings.

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For the average person this is really nice. Not everyone gos to the gym let alone 5-6 times a day. most people are lazy and would never do something that reqires work everyday. Wii Fit fixes alot of this because it makes working out fun and convenient not to mention it tracks all your progress. Its a great idea if you cant see I really dont care.

The way of Japan's development is splitting dramatically from what is happening in the west. Just because you dont agree with what Miyamoto thinks does not mean he is wrong. Theres alot of stuff I dont agree with but hes done more good than bad and is obviously one of the greatest influentials out there. Please stop while your behind you dont understand what Miyamoto is doing and you dont get Wii Fit.

Cyber-

Yes i do know what miyamoto is doing. hes being a corporate business man. no shame in that. i'm saying hes being less creative. wii-fit is not gonna get people in shape. i fail to see it.

are people forgetting that in the past miyamoto has said something along the lines of "oh we can make a game like halo if we wanted to". if you can then why don't you? i'm not talking about the fps aspect but in general a mature title with solid online play that everyone can enjoy. he tries to make it seem like he can make this awesome mature games that the hardcore gamer will be hooked on....so why doesn't he?

I have no doubt wii fit will be a success world wide and especially in america because everyone here is fat beyond belief. but will it work and will anything be gained by the consumer is the question?

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#58 pierst179
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I like the idea. F-Zero GX had a story mode with lots of cutscenes, I guess the game could follow that style, the main difference is that you would play more on foot missions instead of simply racing. He is a bounty hunter so I guess he has other activities besides racing!
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[QUOTE="Cyber-"]

For the average person this is really nice. Not everyone gos to the gym let alone 5-6 times a day. most people are lazy and would never do something that reqires work everyday. Wii Fit fixes alot of this because it makes working out fun and convenient not to mention it tracks all your progress. Its a great idea if you cant see I really dont care.

The way of Japan's development is splitting dramatically from what is happening in the west. Just because you dont agree with what Miyamoto thinks does not mean he is wrong. Theres alot of stuff I dont agree with but hes done more good than bad and is obviously one of the greatest influentials out there. Please stop while your behind you dont understand what Miyamoto is doing and you dont get Wii Fit.

BrooklynHotBoy

Yes i do know what miyamoto is doing. hes being a corporate business man. no shame in that. i'm saying hes being less creative. wii-fit is not gonna get people in shape. i fail to see it.

are people forgetting that in the past miyamoto has said something along the lines of "oh we can make a game like halo if we wanted to". if you can then why don't you? i'm not talking about the fps aspect but in general a mature title with solid online play that everyone can enjoy. he tries to make it seem like he can make this awesome mature games that the hardcore gamer will be hooked on....so why doesn't he?

I have no doubt wii fit will be a success world wide and especially in america because everyone here is fat beyond belief. but will it work and will anything be gained by the consumer is the question?

I don't think you understand what creative means. Lets get a definition shall we?

Definitions:
-resulting from originality of thought, expression, etc
-having the quality or power of creating
-originative; productive

Last time I checked, we haven't had a board used as a controller for a game before, unless you count the DDR mat, but that is much more limited then the Wii Fit board.

Care to try and argue with solid definitons? Remember these definitions are fact, and your claim is just an opinion.

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#60 TheAcejoel99
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It should stay a racing game.
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#61 rexCo
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Ha, I was just about to post that video of the falcon punch.

cap't falcon bio http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Falcon

seems as though a lot of people don't really know about him. hes a bounty hunter. why not make a game based on that? just because hes in f-zero means he shouldnt get his own seperate action adventure game? didnt fox mccloud get his own AA game?

Oh and althought miyamoto is a legend, he fell off the creativity horse a long time ago, IMO. sorry but I just haven't been thrilled with his material lately. why cant he create a new first party game for nintendo thats a bit more mature instead of giving us the same old same old but with some upgrades. it gets tiring. i want something new, something innovatiing. so far all we got from nintendo in that respect is the metroid prime series which miyamoto didnt really have a hand in, he just supervised the project.

BrooklynHotBoy

For the record, Miyamoto is THE MAN.
But, he hasn't done much of anything in recent years but come up with some ideas and supervise things. I wouldn't say he "fell off his creative horse" at all, he just has been sitting back, letting other people do the work.

As for the Falcon thing... I love him, but the game would be hard to do really well. Great idea though, he definitely has a lot of things behind him to make a compelling action game.
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#62 Cyber-
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For the average person this is really nice. Not everyone gos to the gym let alone 5-6 times a day. most people are lazy and would never do something that reqires work everyday. Wii Fit fixes alot of this because it makes working out fun and convenient not to mention it tracks all your progress. Its a great idea if you cant see I really dont care.

The way of Japan's development is splitting dramatically from what is happening in the west. Just because you dont agree with what Miyamoto thinks does not mean he is wrong. Theres alot of stuff I dont agree with but hes done more good than bad and is obviously one of the greatest influentials out there. Please stop while your behind you dont understand what Miyamoto is doing and you dont get Wii Fit.

BrooklynHotBoy

Yes i do know what miyamoto is doing. hes being a corporate business man. no shame in that. i'm saying hes being less creative. wii-fit is not gonna get people in shape. i fail to see it.

are people forgetting that in the past miyamoto has said something along the lines of "oh we can make a game like halo if we wanted to". if you can then why don't you? i'm not talking about the fps aspect but in general a mature title with solid online play that everyone can enjoy. he tries to make it seem like he can make this awesome mature games that the hardcore gamer will be hooked on....so why doesn't he?

I have no doubt wii fit will be a success world wide and especially in america because everyone here is fat beyond belief. but will it work and will anything be gained by the consumer is the question?

mature=/=creative

I know they could make their own rendition own FPS. Calling it Halo is the same as calling it as any run of the mill FPS. Did I ever say its smart of them to not make more serious endeavors? NO I did not. In fact I would love to see the NOA development teams make a proper FPS. Geist was somewhat of a weak attempt but thats because it was developed by a bad dev team. If they were to make Geist 2 in house development im sure it would be amazing just like Zelda and Mario. Kid Icarus I am basically hoping for a God of War style of game but I know they will do something overly lighthearted. Thats their style and its what has made them become the top of the industry.

DO they need to do ALOT? Yes they do but that does not mean they are still doing great things. Wii Fit is not for you obviously but its still original and has been proven affective in Japan.

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#63 XJGunz
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a possible e3 2008 "secret game", possibly?
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[QUOTE="icarus212001"]?! the man single handedly saved video games! he created mario and zelda. he created games as we know it. until you realize that, think before you speak!blingchu55

teehee, i know that and im 14, so I'm awesome(and dont have to think before speaking)

but seriosly, if nintendo were to make a fps(an?) other than metroid prime(yeah, fpa, close enough) they should use captain falcon. Little known fact, bounty hunters shoot people

Giving C. Falcon a gun is a horrible idea. Thats like giving Mario a whip. He doesn't even have a gun in SB.

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#65 BrooklynHotBoy
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[QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"][QUOTE="Cyber-"]

For the average person this is really nice. Not everyone gos to the gym let alone 5-6 times a day. most people are lazy and would never do something that reqires work everyday. Wii Fit fixes alot of this because it makes working out fun and convenient not to mention it tracks all your progress. Its a great idea if you cant see I really dont care.

The way of Japan's development is splitting dramatically from what is happening in the west. Just because you dont agree with what Miyamoto thinks does not mean he is wrong. Theres alot of stuff I dont agree with but hes done more good than bad and is obviously one of the greatest influentials out there. Please stop while your behind you dont understand what Miyamoto is doing and you dont get Wii Fit.

Kuhu

Yes i do know what miyamoto is doing. hes being a corporate business man. no shame in that. i'm saying hes being less creative. wii-fit is not gonna get people in shape. i fail to see it.

are people forgetting that in the past miyamoto has said something along the lines of "oh we can make a game like halo if we wanted to". if you can then why don't you? i'm not talking about the fps aspect but in general a mature title with solid online play that everyone can enjoy. he tries to make it seem like he can make this awesome mature games that the hardcore gamer will be hooked on....so why doesn't he?

I have no doubt wii fit will be a success world wide and especially in america because everyone here is fat beyond belief. but will it work and will anything be gained by the consumer is the question?

I don't think you understand what creative means. Lets get a definition shall we?

Definitions:
-resulting from originality of thought, expression, etc
-having the quality or power of creating
-originative; productive

Last time I checked, we haven't had a board used as a controller for a game before, unless you count the DDR mat, but that is much more limited then the Wii Fit board.

Care to try and argue with solid definitons? Remember these definitions are fact, and your claim is just an opinion.

you just debunked your own claim with the ddr mat. there was still some sort of object which you stood on to increase gaming enjoyment and/or help stay fit.

so your saying due to the definition of the word, miyamoto and being creative is a fact and my claim that he isnt is just an opinion?

uh its the use of the word that i'm basing my opinion on. aside from that, creativity is not a natural concept seeing as the use of the word goes more towards a personal definition than a descriptive which truly gives no meaning. its just like the word "good"you can only say what you find good and i can say what i find good but that does not define good. you telling me i'm using the definition wrong is a naturalistic fallacy on your part.that was just a really poor argument you just supplied. that was seriously laughable man.

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racing is better suited for him.
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[QUOTE="Cyber-"]

For the average person this is really nice. Not everyone gos to the gym let alone 5-6 times a day. most people are lazy and would never do something that reqires work everyday. Wii Fit fixes alot of this because it makes working out fun and convenient not to mention it tracks all your progress. Its a great idea if you cant see I really dont care.

The way of Japan's development is splitting dramatically from what is happening in the west. Just because you dont agree with what Miyamoto thinks does not mean he is wrong. Theres alot of stuff I dont agree with but hes done more good than bad and is obviously one of the greatest influentials out there. Please stop while your behind you dont understand what Miyamoto is doing and you dont get Wii Fit.

BrooklynHotBoy

Yes i do know what miyamoto is doing. hes being a corporate business man. no shame in that. i'm saying hes being less creative. wii-fit is not gonna get people in shape. i fail to see it.

are people forgetting that in the past miyamoto has said something along the lines of "oh we can make a game like halo if we wanted to". if you can then why don't you? i'm not talking about the fps aspect but in general a mature title with solid online play that everyone can enjoy. he tries to make it seem like he can make this awesome mature games that the hardcore gamer will be hooked on....so why doesn't he?

I have no doubt wii fit will be a success world wide and especially in america because everyone here is fat beyond belief. but will it work and will anything be gained by the consumer is the question?

How would Miyamoto making(supervising, he doesn't make games) a Halo type game with maturity, online, ect. have to do with creativity? It sounds to me you think he's being too creative doing things like Wii Fit no other developers are trying to do. The very concept of the Wii and the DS were influenced my Miyamoto and his visions of where gaming can go. His main purpose in the company is to supervise Nintendo projects to keep them at the standards Nintendo has had for years. Why do you think first party games from Nintendo are always of a high standard. Besides, it isnt the success of Miyamotos' creative projects that are important, but the impact they have on this industry as a whole. Based on this, Id say the man is more creative than you give him credit for. Yes, even in the now.
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[QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"][QUOTE="Cyber-"]

For the average person this is really nice. Not everyone gos to the gym let alone 5-6 times a day. most people are lazy and would never do something that reqires work everyday. Wii Fit fixes alot of this because it makes working out fun and convenient not to mention it tracks all your progress. Its a great idea if you cant see I really dont care.

The way of Japan's development is splitting dramatically from what is happening in the west. Just because you dont agree with what Miyamoto thinks does not mean he is wrong. Theres alot of stuff I dont agree with but hes done more good than bad and is obviously one of the greatest influentials out there. Please stop while your behind you dont understand what Miyamoto is doing and you dont get Wii Fit.

FFCYAN

Yes i do know what miyamoto is doing. hes being a corporate business man. no shame in that. i'm saying hes being less creative. wii-fit is not gonna get people in shape. i fail to see it.

are people forgetting that in the past miyamoto has said something along the lines of "oh we can make a game like halo if we wanted to". if you can then why don't you? i'm not talking about the fps aspect but in general a mature title with solid online play that everyone can enjoy. he tries to make it seem like he can make this awesome mature games that the hardcore gamer will be hooked on....so why doesn't he?

I have no doubt wii fit will be a success world wide and especially in america because everyone here is fat beyond belief. but will it work and will anything be gained by the consumer is the question?

How would Miyamoto making(supervising, he doesn't make games) a Halo type game with maturity, online, ect. have to do with creativity? It sounds to me you think he's being too creative doing things like Wii Fit no other developers are trying to do. The very concept of the Wii and the DS were influenced my Miyamoto and his visions of where gaming can go. His main purpose in the company is to supervise Nintendo projects to keep them at the standards Nintendo has had for years. Why do you think first party games from Nintendo are always of a high standard. Besides, it isnt the success of Miyamotos' creative projects that are important, but the impact they have on this industry as a whole. Based on this, Id say the man is more creative than you give him credit for. Yes, even in the now.

Amen to that!

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I know! Captain Falcon could be on Guitar Hero! That would be so hardcore!!
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How would Miyamoto making(supervising, he doesn't make games) a Halo type game with maturity, online, ect. have to do with creativity? It sounds to me you think he's being too creative doing things like Wii Fit no other developers are trying to do. The very concept of the Wii and the DS were influenced my Miyamoto and his visions of where gaming can go. His main purpose in the company is to supervise Nintendo projects to keep them at the standards Nintendo has had for years. Why do you think first party games from Nintendo are always of a high standard. Besides, it isnt the success of Miyamotos' creative projects that are important, but the impact they have on this industry as a whole. Based on this, Id say the man is more creative than you give him credit for. Yes, even in the now.FFCYAN

Your missing the point. I'm not saying he has to make a game like halo to be creative. I'm saying when something fresh or new comes out that attracts a lot of attention from hard-core gamers he will sit there and say he can make a game like that (or better) but rather do something else. Nintendo 1st party games are never at high standardsd to me. if they were they would try something new. nintendo is the communist of the gaming industry. it locks its borders from all others to enter. miyamotos doesn't try anymore and with that, his well has seemingly run dry.

so answer me this. what does miyamoto bring to the table for the hardcore gamer??

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I like the ideas here. Its disgusting to me how people want the exact same games over and over again, just with prettier graphics and slightly different controls and some new gimmicks. And then when Nintendo gives you the same game, like Twlight Princess, you complain about it.
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"] How would Miyamoto making(supervising, he doesn't make games) a Halo type game with maturity, online, ect. have to do with creativity? It sounds to me you think he's being too creative doing things like Wii Fit no other developers are trying to do. The very concept of the Wii and the DS were influenced my Miyamoto and his visions of where gaming can go. His main purpose in the company is to supervise Nintendo projects to keep them at the standards Nintendo has had for years. Why do you think first party games from Nintendo are always of a high standard. Besides, it isnt the success of Miyamotos' creative projects that are important, but the impact they have on this industry as a whole. Based on this, Id say the man is more creative than you give him credit for. Yes, even in the now.BrooklynHotBoy

Your missing the point. I'm not saying he has to make a game like halo to be creative. I'm saying when something fresh or new comes out that attracts a lot of attention from hard-core gamers he will sit there and say he can make a game like that (or better) but rather do something else. Nintendo 1st party games are never at high standardsd to me. if they were they would try something new. nintendo is the communist of the gaming industry. it locks its borders from all others to enter. miyamotos doesn't try anymore and with that, his well has seemingly run dry.

so answer me this. what does miyamoto bring to the table for the hardcore gamer??

SMG beat all other games by industry standards. It is the second highest rated game of all time. How about that? sMG is a very hardcore game. People keep proving you wrong but you just keep trucking.

Nintendo 1st party games are at the top of the industry. They release SSBB widely regarded the best fighting game in its genre. They release SMG widely regard the best platformer in its genre. They release MK (im not toof ond of the newest one coming out) but the series overall beats any arcade racer hands down. The list goes on. You can keep this crap up as long as you want but you cant argue with the facts. Nintendo specifically Miyamoto is a major part of whats good in the industry today.

Does that mean I also want to see, possibly a darker more serious game from Nintendo? Yes I do. But I am not about to cut down much more talented people than myself just because i want that. Also hardcore games =/=HALOES or blood or serious try to get that at some point in this thread.

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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"] How would Miyamoto making(supervising, he doesn't make games) a Halo type game with maturity, online, ect. have to do with creativity? It sounds to me you think he's being too creative doing things like Wii Fit no other developers are trying to do. The very concept of the Wii and the DS were influenced my Miyamoto and his visions of where gaming can go. His main purpose in the company is to supervise Nintendo projects to keep them at the standards Nintendo has had for years. Why do you think first party games from Nintendo are always of a high standard. Besides, it isnt the success of Miyamotos' creative projects that are important, but the impact they have on this industry as a whole. Based on this, Id say the man is more creative than you give him credit for. Yes, even in the now.BrooklynHotBoy

Your missing the point. I'm not saying he has to make a game like halo to be creative. I'm saying when something fresh or new comes out that attracts a lot of attention from hard-core gamers he will sit there and say he can make a game like that (or better) but rather do something else. Nintendo 1st party games are never at high standardsd to me. if they were they would try something new. nintendo is the communist of the gaming industry. it locks its borders from all others to enter. miyamotos doesn't try anymore and with that, his well has seemingly run dry.

so answer me this. what does miyamoto bring to the table for the hardcore gamer??

So basically, their standards fall below yours because they arent trying anything new? Miyamoto does not make trends by making games other companies make and make superior versions himself. That doesnt evolve anything. I know you are unhappy with what Nintendo has to offer, and that is a shame. I believe it is your loss though. If you play games like Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, ect., you would know the attention to detail to not only the game worlds but the manner of craft in which you explore them. Both these games were commercially successful as well as winning numerous Game of the Year awards(by people who play games for a living, on every system). We are all entitled to our opinions, and the WORLD is saying Nintendo kicks ass. So what does Miyamoto bring to the harecore table? Universal award winning quality. These awards cannot be disputed. Check any sites you want. Anyway Captain Falcon needs his ride in his game. Prefferably a thrid person Metal Gear like game where you cannot kill your enemies rather capture them for cash and so forth.
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[QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"]

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"] How would Miyamoto making(supervising, he doesn't make games) a Halo type game with maturity, online, ect. have to do with creativity? It sounds to me you think he's being too creative doing things like Wii Fit no other developers are trying to do. The very concept of the Wii and the DS were influenced my Miyamoto and his visions of where gaming can go. His main purpose in the company is to supervise Nintendo projects to keep them at the standards Nintendo has had for years. Why do you think first party games from Nintendo are always of a high standard. Besides, it isnt the success of Miyamotos' creative projects that are important, but the impact they have on this industry as a whole. Based on this, Id say the man is more creative than you give him credit for. Yes, even in the now.FFCYAN

Your missing the point. I'm not saying he has to make a game like halo to be creative. I'm saying when something fresh or new comes out that attracts a lot of attention from hard-core gamers he will sit there and say he can make a game like that (or better) but rather do something else. Nintendo 1st party games are never at high standardsd to me. if they were they would try something new. nintendo is the communist of the gaming industry. it locks its borders from all others to enter. miyamotos doesn't try anymore and with that, his well has seemingly run dry.

so answer me this. what does miyamoto bring to the table for the hardcore gamer??

So basically, their standards fall below yours because they arent trying anything new? Miyamoto does not make trends by making games other companies make and make superior versions himself. That doesnt evolve anything. I know you are unhappy with what Nintendo has to offer, and that is a shame. I believe it is your loss though. If you play games like Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, ect., you would know the attention to detail to not only the game worlds but the manner of craft in which you explore them. Both these games were commercially successful as well as winning numerous Game of the Year awards(by people who play games for a living, on every system). We are all entitled to our opinions, and the WORLD is saying Nintendo kicks ass. So what does Miyamoto bring to the harecore table? Universal award winning quality. These awards cannot be disputed. Check any sites you want. Anyway Captain Falcon needs his ride in his game. Prefferably a thrid person Metal Gear like game where you cannot kill your enemies rather capture them for cash and so forth.

I'm started to feel like as if I'm not speaking english. I did not say he has to follow trends to relevant but he offers nothing to hardcore gamers. him remaking the same games over and over is where his creativity lacks. its like remixing the same song over and over again. I dont care what critics say about mario galaxy or twilight princess. those games are redundant to me. I don't care what awards these first party games win. It does not matter to me. these games are just the same ole things with minor upgrades as far as i'm concerned. does not interest me at all. miyamoto brings nothing to hardcore gamers. he brings a lot to casual and first timers.

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Captain Falcon would be pretty badass with Falcon punch and stuff...now the problem is where to start with the rest of the game.
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Does Captain Falcon deserve his own game? Well,.. check my avatar, and ask me again,.....:D

Seriously though,... I've always thought that the F ZERO series of games were perfectly honed examples of both game & character design,... just lke the MARIO games,... it was all about the gameplay, and immersing you in the universe,.. F ZERO on the SNES did this to such an affect that the game became an instant classic both with hardcore gamers and casuals alike.

Its for this reason that the following sequels, speficically F ZERO GX on the GAMECUBE were such successes in subsequent years,... both commercially & creatively. The SEGA team had such great foundations to work with, that with their expertise in racing games, and NINTENDO's flair for character design, it was alway going to be a hit.

If there was to be a Captain Falcon game, then I suspect Nintendo would bring SEGA on board yet again to ensure that it was a benchmark title,... infact, I would hope it would be a hefty mix of adventure & racing. Its something I imagine that is probably in the works, or at least in development stages in terms of exactly what genre they would slot this character into.

SO ANYWAY,... YES FOR A CAPTAIN FALCON GAME!!!!8)

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You say Miyamoto brings nothing to the hardcore gamer. NOTHING. That is what you have typed. You are wrong. Us Wii gamers and forum posters(I dont post often, as you can see) would consider ourselves hardcore gamers. The critics play games for a living. Hardcore. Most of us enjoyed SMG and Twilight Princess. And since we talk and play games, discuss them on forums, we are hardcore. And we like Super Mario Galaxy. By your logic, how is this possible? Because I am hardcore, I should dislike Miyamotos games and projects. You clearly are indifferent to the majority of the Wii gamer and it's obvious to those with resonable minds that you need to get a 360 or PS3 and play "innovating games" cause you are blind to things that are as clear as day.

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You say Miyamoto brings nothing to the hardcore gamer. NOTHING. That is what you have typed. You are wrong. Us Wii gamers and forum posters(I dont post often, as you can see) would consider ourselves hardcore gamers. The critics play games for a living. Hardcore. Most of us enjoyed SMG and Twilight Princess. And since we talk and play games, discuss them on forums, we are hardcore. And we like Super Mario Galaxy. By your logic, how is this possible? Because I am hardcore, I should dislike Miyamotos games and projects. You clearly are indifferent to the majority of the Wii gamer and it's obvious to those with resonable minds that you need to get a 360 or PS3 and play "innovating games" cause you are blind to things that are as clear as day.

FFCYAN

Please refrain from personal attacks here for this is a mature debate not a flame war. Just because i'm indifferent you're sitting hee calling me blind and condesendingly calling me unreasonable. grow up man. just say you don't share the same opinion and argue off of that. taking personal attacks is just lowers the credibility of everything your typing which is why I'm not giving a proper response to this. have a nice day.

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I've been playing video games for over 23 years, as "hardcore" as it gets, and I still love Nintendo's products, Miyamoto's games most of all. I have a PS3 and I love that too, but I think Miyamoto offers plenty to me. What is "the hardcore gamer", if I may ask? Someone who plays online? I play games, probably more than I should throughout the course of a week, and I almost never play games online, not even Brawl. I hate first person shooters. I don't care if a game is rated E or M as long as it's fun to play. I enjoy puzzle games like Puzzle Quest as much as I do visceral action games like Devil May Cry. I had more fun playing Wii Sports, Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros. Brawl than anything I've played on PS3 thus far.

I'm not saying this to speak for the masses. I'm saying that there is no set definition of the "hardcore" gamer, and saying that Miyamoto offers nothing to the hardcore gamer is far too generalized to be accepted as truth.

On topic, I think an action RPG that combined third person on-foot action with racing would be a very intriguing game concept if done right, and Falcon would be great for that. But that kind of imagination is lost in the game industry these days. Everyone is trying to do different/better versions of what's already out there because that's what people are buying. Creativity is taking a back seat to profit potential. Why make an F-Zero action adventure-racing hybrid when F-Zero racing games sold better in the past? Nintendo meanwhile is focused on expanding the game audience with simpler things...slowly bridging the gap between the non gamer and the traditional games. Maybe one day in the distant future such a game will exist. As mentioned, it's not the first time a franchise has branched out beyond its roots. Heck, look at how many things Mario has done. Or Kirby, Yoshi...even Samus starred in a pinball game and Sonic has a few racing games.

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Does Captain Falcon deserve his own game? Well,.. check my avatar, and ask me again,.....:D

Seriously though,... I've always thought that the F ZERO series of games were perfectly honed examples of both game & character design,... just lke the MARIO games,... it was all about the gameplay, and immersing you in the universe,.. F ZERO on the SNES did this to such an affect that the game became an instant classic both with hardcore gamers and casuals alike.

Its for this reason that the following sequels, speficically F ZERO GX on the GAMECUBE were such successes in subsequent years,... both commercially & creatively. The SEGA team had such great foundations to work with, that with their expertise in racing games, and NINTENDO's flair for character design, it was alway going to be a hit.

If there was to be a Captain Falcon game, then I suspect Nintendo would bring SEGA on board yet again to ensure that it was a benchmark title,... infact, I would hope it would be a hefty mix of adventure & racing. Its something I imagine that is probably in the works, or at least in development stages in terms of exactly what genre they would slot this character into.

SO ANYWAY,... YES FOR A CAPTAIN FALCON GAME!!!!8)

SNESGOD

F-Zero GX sold below 500, 000. FOr a game of that magnitude thats defintiely not good commercially. Though its still one of my most favorite racing games.

IGN has said that they will go another route with F-Zero because of bad sales.

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I say yes to this idea of a Captain Falcon videogame. If they do make one it should be more mature like the Prince of Persia games, and should take place in the future. By the way Miyamoto is a total douche bag and should stay away from this game because he will make it look like a cartoon.
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Does anyone think he deserves his own 3rd person action/adventure game? Nintendo made him to be so agile and fast and awesome in the smash bro's game that I think he deserves to be in the spotlight for once. We know enough about him to give him his own game so I think its fair.

But if this so happens, I want miyamoto to stay away from the project but I just know that won't happen. I could just see him effing things up and giving us graphics and crappy gamplay like from those 3d cartoonish spiderman games. I'd want this to be a serious mature game (not saying it has to be mature rated with gore and blood etc just not kiddy).

thoughts?

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i like captain falcon and all, game no, movie CHEYA!!

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There used to be a show on Fox box ( or 4 Kids, whatever) that featured captian falcon and i think he threw afew punches in that show, racing and fighting mixed would be cool
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There used to be a show on Fox box ( or 4 Kids, whatever) that featured captian falcon and i think he threw afew punches in that show, racing and fighting mixed would be coolWh00-H00

How did this thread get this far without a link to the anime showing off the Falcon Punch?Bio_Spark

Same one minus the Japanese?

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[QUOTE="icarus212001"]?! the man single handedly saved video games! he created mario and zelda. he created games as we know it. until you realize that, think before you speak!blingchu55

teehee, i know that and im 14, so I'm awesome(and dont have to think before speaking)

but seriosly, if nintendo were to make a fps(an?) other than metroid prime(yeah, fpa, close enough) they should use captain falcon. Little known fact, bounty hunters shoot people

er.. you know what?
that's quite a bad idea
it makes no sense...

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[QUOTE="blingchu55"]

[QUOTE="icarus212001"]?! the man single handedly saved video games! he created mario and zelda. he created games as we know it. until you realize that, think before you speak!pikma

teehee, i know that and im 14, so I'm awesome(and dont have to think before speaking)

but seriosly, if nintendo were to make a fps(an?) other than metroid prime(yeah, fpa, close enough) they should use captain falcon. Little known fact, bounty hunters shoot people

er.. you know what?
that's quite a bad idea
it makes no sense...

If they wanna do a FPS they should just introduce a new character. They cant just use the same people and recylce them into new genres.

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Not really a fan.
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[QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"]

I'm started to feel like as if I'm not speaking english. I did not say he has to follow trends to relevant but he offers nothing to hardcore gamers. him remaking the same games over and over is where his creativity lacks. its like remixing the same song over and over again. I dont care what critics say about mario galaxy or twilight princess. those games are redundant to me. I don't care what awards these first party games win. It does not matter to me. these games are just the same ole things with minor upgrades as far as i'm concerned. does not interest me at all. miyamoto brings nothing to hardcore gamers. he brings a lot to casual and first timers.

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Ok so going by your logic, Halo 2 and 3 were horrible horrible games, Starcraft 2 is going to be a total flop, Warcraft 3 was a horrible RTS, many Command & Conquer games including the recent 3 and the upcoming expansion Kane's Wrath were/are/will be terrible, Metroid Prime 2 and 3 weren't worth playing, every GTA game after GTA 3 (Vice City, San Andreas, GTA 4) atrocious and the Elder Scrolls games were lousy too. So according to what you said, all the games mentioned above(oh there's a lot more, just didn't want to type it all out) were just hopeless attempts by developers to make money without any regard to the consumer. And honestly, have you heard about this thing called a target audience? You said it yourself, he brings a lot to causal gamers(ugh, overused word without any meaning!) and first timers, which maybe, just possibly, is what he plans to do!

good that makes me the small minority. that means i dont share the same ideas as everyone else. i'm unique in a sense. thank you for saying that. because if i did think like everyone else than what am i left with other than conformity?

so it's great that not everone thinks the way I do.

BrooklynHotBoy

Ok so according to this, you don't like it when you think the same as everybody else. Isn't it sort of good that Miyamoto doesn't either? You complain about him not bringing things to the Hardcore gamer like all the other developers are doing. Maybe he doesn't want to be like them. Just because he can make a game like Halo(and I believe that he can), doesn't mean he has to. Isn't not making copycat games being more creative than other devs already? I owe Miyamoto, for making terrific games that brought me much enjoyment and I think he's still pumping them out, though not neccesarily directly.

Now back on topic, I was never a huge F-Zero fan to be honest. I couldn't do well in the original SNES game to save my life(kept dying) and I didn't buy GX (though I did try the demo that came on the disk I got with Mario Kart Double Dash, I liked it). However, I always thought it was a solid racing game with a really cool setting and concept, and I would love to see another one. As for an adventure starring C. Falcon, I wouldn't mind it, but I can't say its high on my games-I-wish-were-real list.

Forget it Food Eater, he's not worth debating. And you should pick up GX. It's got tons of content and is pretty fast and intense. It might be hardfor some cause it requires some precision analog movements to be great at getting the best times. I will probably start playing it again soon.:P
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Does anyone think he deserves his own 3rd person action/adventure game? Nintendo made him to be so agile and fast and awesome in the smash bro's game that I think he deserves to be in the spotlight for once. We know enough about him to give him his own game so I think its fair.

But if this so happens, I want miyamoto to stay away from the project but I just know that won't happen. I could just see him effing things up and giving us graphics and crappy gamplay like from those 3d cartoonish spiderman games. I'd want this to be a serious mature game (not saying it has to be mature rated with gore and blood etc just not kiddy).

thoughts?

BrooklynHotBoy

Now THAT would be a nice game. That way Falcon would be featured in three Nintendo franchises then: Smash, F-Zero, and whatever this franchise would be named. If the right developers got together for this it would pretty awesome.....well, that's what I think.