Conduit 2 Pushed to March

Watching the live stream. Looks okay.OreoMilkshake

Maybe somebody should create a thread to write down all the information shown in the live stream.

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Watching the live stream. Looks okay.super600

Maybe somebody should create a thread to write down all the information shown in the live stream.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Watching the live stream. Looks okay.OreoMilkshake

Maybe somebody should create a thread to write down all the information shown in the live stream.

They only talked about the Grinder for a couple of minutes and they still haven't found a publisher.

The AI still looks absolutely retarded.... I watched a drudge run into a wall for like four seconds until it died...

WreckEm711

I wish I can see that. Anyway some of the Al are pretty good and some are horrible.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

The AI still looks absolutely retarded.... I watched a drudge run into a wall for like four seconds until it died...

super600

I wish I can see that. Anyway some of the Al are pretty good and some are horrible.

I havent seen any good AI thusfar :/ They either stand out in the open shooting until they die, or they run right at you, or run behind a pillar and stand there until the guy came around and killed them.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

The AI still looks absolutely retarded.... I watched a drudge run into a wall for like four seconds until it died...

WreckEm711

I wish I can see that. Anyway some of the Al are pretty good and some are horrible.

I havent seen any good AI thusfar :/ They either stand out in the open shooting until they die, or they run right at you, or run behind a pillar and stand there until the guy came around and killed them.

Did you see the shield guys yet?

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I wish I can see that. Anyway some of the Al are pretty good and some are horrible.

super600

I havent seen any good AI thusfar :/ They either stand out in the open shooting until they die, or they run right at you, or run behind a pillar and stand there until the guy came around and killed them.

Did you see the shield guys yet?

No, they switched to the horde mode type thing, the map is really big and seems cool, but I dont really see any progression in difficulty :/ it seems like the exact same number of enemies are there spread out through the level

Wreckem

I noticed that too and I hope their is some variety to the enemy types, but I doubt that will happen in the invasion mode unless I'm wrong.

Wreckem

I noticed that too and I hope their is some variety to the enemy types, but I doubt that will happen in the invasion mode unless I'm wrong.

super600

Earlier in the feed he said that different enemies will come depending on the wave level youre at

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

The AI still looks absolutely retarded.... I watched a drudge run into a wall for like four seconds until it died...

WreckEm711

I wish I can see that. Anyway some of the Al are pretty good and some are horrible.

I havent seen any good AI thusfar :/ They either stand out in the open shooting until they die, or they run right at you, or run behind a pillar and stand there until the guy came around and killed them.

Actually, The AI is VERy much more improved then that of the first, thought that doesen't say much.

And actually, the AI is cabable of some smart stuff. Unlike the first, enemies with different guns shoot at you in diferent ways (Snipers actually don't run at you), and i've noticed that enemies take smarter cover than the first. of course again that doesent say much but still, atleast HV is trying.

[QUOTE="super600"]

Wreckem

I noticed that too and I hope their is some variety to the enemy types, but I doubt that will happen in the invasion mode unless I'm wrong.

WreckEm711

Earlier in the feed he said that different enemies will come depending on the wave level youre at

I must have not heard that.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Wreckem

I noticed that too and I hope their is some variety to the enemy types, but I doubt that will happen in the invasion mode unless I'm wrong.

super600

Earlier in the feed he said that different enemies will come depending on the wave level youre at

I must have not heard that.

Super, your the one that posted that fact sheet saying that there were dozens of enemy types. i think it said 27. But yes, it'd be cool in invasion mode.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Wreckem

I noticed that too and I hope their is some variety to the enemy types, but I doubt that will happen in the invasion mode unless I'm wrong.

super600

Earlier in the feed he said that different enemies will come depending on the wave level youre at

I must have not heard that.

It was while he was playing the campaign level but he sounded kinda iffy about it. Invasion was kind of disappointing looking, especially having been playing Nazi Zombies lately, but if the splitscreen and online does alright I may pick this one up

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Earlier in the feed he said that different enemies will come depending on the wave level youre at

WreckEm711

I must have not heard that.

It was while he was playing the campaign level but he sounded kinda iffy about it. Invasion was kind of disappointing looking, especially having been playing Nazi Zombies lately, but if the splitscreen and online does alright I may pick this one up

The only thing I'm disappointed in is how bad the art design is on some of the stages. It may have something to do with the video quality or the actual game visuals.

The only thing I'm disappointed in is how bad the art design is on some of the stages. It may have something to do with the video quality or the actual game visuals.super600

[QUOTE="super600"]The only thing I'm disappointed in is how bad the art design is on some of the stages. It may have something to do with the video quality or the actual game visuals.JuarN18

But I found the design of the campaign stages not as bad as the multi. Maybe when I play the game on my TV when it releasesthe art design would look better.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="meetroid8"]

Wii=Casual. Thats the demographic

And to painguy this thread is so much fun!

Thanks for proving my point bud. Everyone. hardcore gamers aren't even 1% of the wiis demographic

[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Wii=everyone. Thats the demographic. Focusing on one market area won't generate successLastRambo341

Thanks for proving my point bud. Everyone. hardcore gamers aren't even 1% of the wiis demographic

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Cruse34"]

Thanks for proving my point bud. Everyone. hardcore gamers aren't even 1% of the wiis demographic

intro94

1. CoD sells more then anything
2. Goldeneye hasn't sold millions
3. theres been like 5 main posters in this thread
4. Yes the hardcore and casual labels are dumb

[QUOTE="Rod90"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

how is this thread still alive?

Wii=Casual. Thats the demographic

And to painguy this thread is so much fun!

[QUOTE="intro94"]

I didn't prove it, I destroyed itLastRambo341

1. CoD sells more then anything
2. Goldeneye hasn't sold millions
3. theres been like 5 main posters in this thread
4. Yes the hardcore and casual labels are dumb

[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

1. CoD sells more then anything
2. Goldeneye hasn't sold millions
3. theres been like 5 main posters in this thread
4. Yes the hardcore and casual labels are dumb

Rod90

1. Whats Mario got to do with this?
2. I never said goldeneye sold bad you said it sold close to five million which was wrong.
3. The main posters have been me, you and lastrambo.
4. Just because someone jumps off a bridge dosen't make it fun

[QUOTE="Rod90"][QUOTE="Cruse34"]

1. CoD sells more then anything
2. Goldeneye hasn't sold millions
3. theres been like 5 main posters in this thread
4. Yes the hardcore and casual labels are dumb

Cruse34

1. Whats Mario got to do with this?
2. I never said goldeneye sold bad you said it sold close to five million which was wrong.
3. The main posters have been me, you and lastrambo.
4. Just because someone jumps off a bridge dosen't make it fun

I wonder if they pushed it back to prevent competition with Bulletstorm, which releases on February 22nd. It would make sense. Just like it was pushed back in November, maybe to prevent competition with Black Ops, Medal of Honor, and Halo: Reach.

Hey guys, just apiece of new's. aparently this thread is out of date. Just got an update saying the Conduit was pushed back further to April...

The bus has slowed down somemore. The games now coming out in Apirl. Question: If a bus goes over a cliff at 40 is the impact the same, better, or worse then at 50?

The bus has slowed down somemore. The games now coming out in Apirl. Question: If a bus goes over a cliff at 40 is the impact the same, better, or worse then at 50?

Cruse34

[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

The bus has slowed down somemore. The games now coming out in Apirl. Question: If a bus goes over a cliff at 40 is the impact the same, better, or worse then at 50?

OreoMilkshake

Actually momentum would make the 60mph crash worse, but anyway whats wrong with my sig?

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="Cruse34"]

The bus has slowed down somemore. The games now coming out in Apirl. Question: If a bus goes over a cliff at 40 is the impact the same, better, or worse then at 50?

Cruse34

Actually momentum would make the 60mph crash worse, but anyway whats wrong with my sig?

[QUOTE="XboxGuy1537"]

Nobody wants this game anyways.....

Fundai

Haters gonna hate.....

You betcha.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]This guy is much better than you thinkWreckEm711

Yet his portfolio in games says otherwise, his only job as lead didnt even get released, he lost the main writing job in borderlands, and he was merely a revisor in the two other games.

To be clear, I didn't lose the main writing job in Borderlands. I handed in a full cinematic and VO script including secondary dialogue for the original vision of the game. When a new character was added, and the art style and attitude changed to its current form, the writing was done in-house (likely to save the expense of a freelancer, but that's speculation on my part). The producer, game director, and audio director were happy with what I wrote for the original vision, from everything I heard.

And, yes, two of my published credits are for revisions, but revisions cover not only dialogue editing but cutting subplots, trimming cinematics, and other things as well. This is usually due to scheduling and asset considerations and can be quite extensive, depending on the amount of clean up that must be done.

For the record, the reasons behind the cancellation of Wings of War had nothing to do with my position as job lead. The troubles stemmed from other projects the studio was working on. The studio closed soon after.

I've done a handful of other story development and writing jobs as well, for projects that are either unannounced or were cancelled by the publisher. Frankly, that's how it is in the game industry. A lot of work never sees the light of day, even if the project is close to finish (or even sometimes when it's finished).

If you don't like what I've written for Conduit 2, that's fine. But keep in mind there's an entire story, far beyond the snippets shown in trailers so far. It's perhaps a bit unfair to judge an entire work from a 30-second excerpt. Either way, I would appreciate not being derided for what strides I have made in an industry I love. You don't know me, and you probably aren't familiar with the body of my work. I'm not saying I'm awesome, but I'm not a hack either.

No way, we really have someone in the industry on GS boards? AWESOME. Hopefully you've tried to make the story clearer. The story in Tcon 1 was really confusing/unclear. Looking forward to it honestly. Assuming the story and environments go together very well and doesn't make it seemlike we're jumping all over the place for no reason.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]This guy is much better than you thinkjasonlblair

Yet his portfolio in games says otherwise, his only job as lead didnt even get released, he lost the main writing job in borderlands, and he was merely a revisor in the two other games.

To be clear, I didn't lose the main writing job in Borderlands. I handed in a full cinematic and VO script including secondary dialogue for the original vision of the game. When a new character was added, and the art style and attitude changed to its current form, the writing was done in-house (likely to save the expense of a freelancer, but that's speculation on my part). The producer, game director, and audio director were happy with what I wrote for the original vision, from everything I heard.

And, yes, two of my published credits are for revisions, but revisions cover not only dialogue editing but cutting subplots, trimming cinematics, and other things as well. This is usually due to scheduling and asset considerations and can be quite extensive, depending on the amount of clean up that must be done.

For the record, the reasons behind the cancellation of Wings of War had nothing to do with my position as job lead. The troubles stemmed from other projects the studio was working on. The studio closed soon after.

I've done a handful of other story development and writing jobs as well, for projects that are either unannounced or were cancelled by the publisher. Frankly, that's how it is in the game industry. A lot of work never sees the light of day, even if the project is close to finish (or even sometimes when it's finished).

If you don't like what I've written for Conduit 2, that's fine. But keep in mind there's an entire story, far beyond the snippets shown in trailers so far. It's perhaps a bit unfair to judge an entire work from a 30-second excerpt. Either way, I would appreciate not being derided for what strides I have made in an industry I love. You don't know me, and you probably aren't familiar with the body of my work. I'm not saying I'm awesome, but I'm not a hack either.

Assuming you're actually you and I'm not being very intricately trolled, I'll play along. Welcome to the one of the industries must criticized by its fans.

The point is that like HVS, you are unproven in the gaming industry. Maybe your borderlands writing was amazing, like with HVS's promises, it never materialized, so we didn't get to see it to decide. Revisions are no indication at all as to how the quality of the story will be when given a full writing role. As with borderlands, maybe your writing was fantastic in the game that was cancelled, but gamers still never got to see it to decide for themselves.

Congratulations on breaking through into the gaming industry, but don't expect praise to be thrown around by people until you're able to show your stuff in a video game beyond revisions to someone elses writing.

As I've said in other threads regarding this game, I do hope it's good. I would love for HVS to break their bad track record and for you to get a fully written video game out there, but both of you have to prove yourselves first, and in a game as divisive as Conduit, that's not going to happen until we see the finished product.

I'm wondering something? Is Jason L. Blair the user the person that's actually writing the story for Conduit 2 or are we being messed with.

[QUOTE="jasonlblair"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Yet his portfolio in games says otherwise, his only job as lead didnt even get released, he lost the main writing job in borderlands, and he was merely a revisor in the two other games.

WreckEm711

To be clear, I didn't lose the main writing job in Borderlands. I handed in a full cinematic and VO script including secondary dialogue for the original vision of the game. When a new character was added, and the art style and attitude changed to its current form, the writing was done in-house (likely to save the expense of a freelancer, but that's speculation on my part). The producer, game director, and audio director were happy with what I wrote for the original vision, from everything I heard.

And, yes, two of my published credits are for revisions, but revisions cover not only dialogue editing but cutting subplots, trimming cinematics, and other things as well. This is usually due to scheduling and asset considerations and can be quite extensive, depending on the amount of clean up that must be done.

For the record, the reasons behind the cancellation of Wings of War had nothing to do with my position as job lead. The troubles stemmed from other projects the studio was working on. The studio closed soon after.

I've done a handful of other story development and writing jobs as well, for projects that are either unannounced or were cancelled by the publisher. Frankly, that's how it is in the game industry. A lot of work never sees the light of day, even if the project is close to finish (or even sometimes when it's finished).

If you don't like what I've written for Conduit 2, that's fine. But keep in mind there's an entire story, far beyond the snippets shown in trailers so far. It's perhaps a bit unfair to judge an entire work from a 30-second excerpt. Either way, I would appreciate not being derided for what strides I have made in an industry I love. You don't know me, and you probably aren't familiar with the body of my work. I'm not saying I'm awesome, but I'm not a hack either.

Assuming you're actually you and I'm not being very intricately trolled, I'll play along. Welcome to the one of the industries must criticized by its fans.

The point is that like HVS, you are unproven in the gaming industry. Maybe your borderlands writing was amazing, like with HVS's promises, it never materialized, so we didn't get to see it to decide. Revisions are no indication at all as to how the quality of the story will be when given a full writing role. As with borderlands, maybe your writing was fantastic in the game that was cancelled, but gamers still never got to see it to decide for themselves.

Congratulations on breaking through into the gaming industry, but don't expect praise to be thrown around by people until you're able to show your stuff in a video game beyond revisions to someone elses writing.

As I've said in other threads regarding this game, I do hope it's good. I would love for HVS to break their bad track record and for you to get a fully written video game out there, but both of you have to prove yourselves first, and in a game as divisive as Conduit, that's not going to happen until we see the finished product.

I agree so it can stop the HVs hating cycle.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="jasonlblair"]

To be clear, I didn't lose the main writing job in Borderlands. I handed in a full cinematic and VO script including secondary dialogue for the original vision of the game. When a new character was added, and the art style and attitude changed to its current form, the writing was done in-house (likely to save the expense of a freelancer, but that's speculation on my part). The producer, game director, and audio director were happy with what I wrote for the original vision, from everything I heard.

And, yes, two of my published credits are for revisions, but revisions cover not only dialogue editing but cutting subplots, trimming cinematics, and other things as well. This is usually due to scheduling and asset considerations and can be quite extensive, depending on the amount of clean up that must be done.

For the record, the reasons behind the cancellation of Wings of War had nothing to do with my position as job lead. The troubles stemmed from other projects the studio was working on. The studio closed soon after.

I've done a handful of other story development and writing jobs as well, for projects that are either unannounced or were cancelled by the publisher. Frankly, that's how it is in the game industry. A lot of work never sees the light of day, even if the project is close to finish (or even sometimes when it's finished).

If you don't like what I've written for Conduit 2, that's fine. But keep in mind there's an entire story, far beyond the snippets shown in trailers so far. It's perhaps a bit unfair to judge an entire work from a 30-second excerpt. Either way, I would appreciate not being derided for what strides I have made in an industry I love. You don't know me, and you probably aren't familiar with the body of my work. I'm not saying I'm awesome, but I'm not a hack either.

super600

Assuming you're actually you and I'm not being very intricately trolled, I'll play along. Welcome to the one of the industries must criticized by its fans.

The point is that like HVS, you are unproven in the gaming industry. Maybe your borderlands writing was amazing, like with HVS's promises, it never materialized, so we didn't get to see it to decide. Revisions are no indication at all as to how the quality of the story will be when given a full writing role. As with borderlands, maybe your writing was fantastic in the game that was cancelled, but gamers still never got to see it to decide for themselves.

Congratulations on breaking through into the gaming industry, but don't expect praise to be thrown around by people until you're able to show your stuff in a video game beyond revisions to someone elses writing.

As I've said in other threads regarding this game, I do hope it's good. I would love for HVS to break their bad track record and for you to get a fully written video game out there, but both of you have to prove yourselves first, and in a game as divisive as Conduit, that's not going to happen until we see the finished product.

I agree so it can stop the HVs hating cycle.

You don't understand what hate means. Go look it up, because everyone here is just being doubtful that a developer who hasn't made a good game since the nintendo 64 will come out with the "Greatness" the blind are proclaiming Conduit 2 to be months before it's even released.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Assuming you're actually you and I'm not being very intricately trolled, I'll play along. Welcome to the one of the industries must criticized by its fans.

The point is that like HVS, you are unproven in the gaming industry. Maybe your borderlands writing was amazing, like with HVS's promises, it never materialized, so we didn't get to see it to decide. Revisions are no indication at all as to how the quality of the story will be when given a full writing role. As with borderlands, maybe your writing was fantastic in the game that was cancelled, but gamers still never got to see it to decide for themselves.

Congratulations on breaking through into the gaming industry, but don't expect praise to be thrown around by people until you're able to show your stuff in a video game beyond revisions to someone elses writing.

As I've said in other threads regarding this game, I do hope it's good. I would love for HVS to break their bad track record and for you to get a fully written video game out there, but both of you have to prove yourselves first, and in a game as divisive as Conduit, that's not going to happen until we see the finished product.

WreckEm711

I agree so it can stop the HVs hating cycle.

You don't understand what hate means. Go look it up, because everyone here is just being doubtful that a developer who hasn't made a good game since the nintendo 64 will come out with the "Greatness" the blind are proclaiming Conduit 2 to be months before it's even released.

Like I said before I have multiple concerns about how HVSare going to pull of a good campaign and multiplayer. I just don't like when people just make of a developer because of their past by pointing at all the horrible games they make and saying that their future games will fail horriblylike all those other games. I'm not saying it will be good, but I think we should be cautious before determining the quality of the game.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I agree so it can stop the HVs hating cycle.

super600

You don't understand what hate means. Go look it up, because everyone here is just being doubtful that a developer who hasn't made a good game since the nintendo 64 will come out with the "Greatness" the blind are proclaiming Conduit 2 to be months before it's even released.

Like I said before I have multiple concerns about how HVSare going to pull of a good campaign and multiplayer. I just don't like when people just make of a developer because of their past by pointing at all the horrible games they make and saying that their future games will fail horriblylike all those other games. I'm not saying it will be good, but I think we should be cautious before determining the quality of the game.

Thats literally exactly what everyone who has been accused of "hating" the game has been doing :P

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

You don't understand what hate means. Go look it up, because everyone here is just being doubtful that a developer who hasn't made a good game since the nintendo 64 will come out with the "Greatness" the blind are proclaiming Conduit 2 to be months before it's even released.

WreckEm711

Like I said before I have multiple concerns about how HVSare going to pull of a good campaign and multiplayer. I just don't like when people just make of a developer because of their past by pointing at all the horrible games they make and saying that their future games will fail horriblylike all those other games. I'm not saying it will be good, but I think we should be cautious before determining the quality of the game.

Thats literally exactly what everyone who has been accused of "hating" the game has been doing :P

Almost everyone except Jasonguy.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Like I said before I have multiple concerns about how HVSare going to pull of a good campaign and multiplayer. I just don't like when people just make of a developer because of their past by pointing at all the horrible games they make and saying that their future games will fail horriblylike all those other games. I'm not saying it will be good, but I think we should be cautious before determining the quality of the game.

super600

Thats literally exactly what everyone who has been accused of "hating" the game has been doing :P

Almost everyone except Jasonguy.

HVS has done nothing to prove him wrong.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Thats literally exactly what everyone who has been accused of "hating" the game has been doing :P

WreckEm711

Almost everyone except Jasonguy.

HVS has done nothing to prove him wrong.

I lnow that except the use of that Rudolph game is just annoying to people that are actually being cautious.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Almost everyone except Jasonguy.

super600

HVS has done nothing to prove him wrong.

I lnow that except the use of that Rudolph game is just annoying to people that are actually being cautious.

Except that HVS has done that with games that were supposedly aimed at the core audience.

Ever heard of Tournament of Legends? It's a horrible game. It was supposed to be HVS's "delivering a hardcore fighting game to Wii fans" because there werent that many on the system. I suppose they just didnt care about that one either and thats why it is crap?

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

HVS has done nothing to prove him wrong.

WreckEm711

I lnow that except the use of that Rudolph game is just annoying to people that are actually being cautious.

Except that HVS has done that with games that were supposedly aimed at the core audience.

Ever heard of Tournament of Legends? It's a horrible game. It was supposed to be HVS's "delivering a hardcore fighting game to Wii fans" because there werent that many on the system. I suppose they just didnt care about that one either and thats why it is crap?

Didn't I hear that Sega forcedthem to make that kinda game and notthe original concept they were going for or something like that.

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I lnow that except the use of that Rudolph game is just annoying to people that are actually being cautious.

super600

Except that HVS has done that with games that were supposedly aimed at the core audience.

Ever heard of Tournament of Legends? It's a horrible game. It was supposed to be HVS's "delivering a hardcore fighting game to Wii fans" because there werent that many on the system. I suppose they just didnt care about that one either and thats why it is crap?

Didn't I hear that Sega forcedthem to make that kinda game and notthe original concept they were going for or something like that.

It was the exact same game they just changed the visual style so it would sell under a teen rating instead of mature. The gameplay is what they promised, and once again they didn't deliver.

THIS is what they promised:

THIS is what they delivered:

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/tournamentoflegends/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Bread-review

Thanks Wreckem. I never knew that.

You don't know me, and you probably aren't familiar with the body of my work. I'm not saying I'm awesome, but I'm not a hack either.

jasonlblair

You could be the greatest surgeon in the world but if you take up residency in a practice that kills most of it's patients you're going to be called a quack and no one is going to let you touch them.

You're in bed with High Voltage, a company that's done nothing but made bad games.

See this right here?

You're part of that

Now do you expect anyone to approach you or your company like they're actually interested in making passable software let alone good software?

So they're unable to finish the game on time?

That's pretty much High Voltage at it's best

So now when it's broken we'll hear excuses like "oh the deadline and we couldn't delay it any longer"

Jaysonguy

So you are saying Nintendo is just as bad as HVS because they couldn't finish the Wii Zelda on time?

Pushing the date back gives them time to fix whatever problems come up.