Crappy DS playback on 3DS.

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Chrnocide
Chrnocide

357

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 Chrnocide
Member since 2009 • 357 Posts

Anyone know the reason why? Links to websites that have gone into it would be nice.

Avatar image for wes008
wes008

802

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#2 wes008
Member since 2009 • 802 Posts

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/09/playing-ds-on-a-3ds-is-less-than-ideal/

I'll find it tolerable, but many won't.

Avatar image for LaytonsCat
LaytonsCat

3652

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#3 LaytonsCat
Member since 2010 • 3652 Posts

Just keep your DS, or the black bars don't seem that bad

Avatar image for jackozz15
jackozz15

264

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#4 jackozz15
Member since 2010 • 264 Posts

It's due to the scaling of the screen :P Just play them on a normal DS

Avatar image for bobbetybob
bobbetybob

19370

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#5 bobbetybob
Member since 2005 • 19370 Posts
We already knew about this, I had no problem playing Gameboy colour games on my GBA stretched or unstretched. At least this is stretching them in every direction, unlike the GBA which basically just stretched things sideways.
Avatar image for nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

42207

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 44

User Lists: 14

#6 nintendoboy16
Member since 2007 • 42207 Posts
We already knew about this, I had no problem playing Gameboy colour games on my GBA stretched or unstretched. At least this is stretching them in every direction, unlike the GBA which basically just stretched things sideways.bobbetybob
Yeah, I don't think that will be a problem for me either.
Avatar image for dzimm
dzimm

6615

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#7 dzimm
Member since 2006 • 6615 Posts
I've heard mixed reports, so I think it's probably one of those subjective things. Some people say it's terrible, some say it's tolerable, and still others say there's a barely noticeable loss of sharpness. It probably also depends on the game you're playing.
Avatar image for Gamingclone
Gamingclone

5224

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#8 Gamingclone
Member since 2009 • 5224 Posts

No problem for me.

Avatar image for evilgamer22
evilgamer22

2408

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#9 evilgamer22
Member since 2009 • 2408 Posts

Didn't look that bad to me, but I guess I'll see for myself soon enough.

Avatar image for nini200
nini200

11484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 nini200
Member since 2005 • 11484 Posts
It's gotta be something other than the stretching because if it was just due to scaling of the screen, this same issue would be on the DSi XL and it's not. The DSi XL screens are WAAAYYYY larger than the 3DS screen so by that alone makes me think that it's something other than the screen size.
Avatar image for nini200
nini200

11484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 nini200
Member since 2005 • 11484 Posts

It's due to the scaling of the screen :P Just play them on a normal DS

jackozz15
Then why does it not do this on the DSi XL?
Avatar image for dzimm
dzimm

6615

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#12 dzimm
Member since 2006 • 6615 Posts
The DSi XL is the same resolution as every other DS model, so the image isn't being stretched, it's just larger. The 3DS screen is actually a higher resolution, so the image has to be distorted in some fashion to make it "fit".
Avatar image for riariases
riariases

2335

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#13 riariases
Member since 2007 • 2335 Posts

The DSi XL is the same resolution as every other DS model, so the image isn't being stretched, it's just larger. The 3DS screen is actually a higher resolution, so the image has to be distorted in some fashion to make it "fit".dzimm
Thats exactly whats happening. Think of it like this.

[x][o][x]
[o][x][o]
[x][o][x]
Just say for example that those rectangles are the DS screens pixels. 3x3 resolution and the image showing is an 'X'.

[x][o][o][x]
[o][x][x][o]
[o][x][x][o]
[x][o][o][x]
Again, just for example lets say the 3DS has a 4x4 resoution screen. It still has to show that 'X' that the DS screen displayed, but it has to scale it differently. So it still shows the 'X' image, but in a different fashion because its being displayed on a screen that is wasn't designed for and has different resolution. Now the image is a bit distorted and doesn't look like an 'X' as much as it did on the DS screen.

In the basic sense of it, thats how it works.

Avatar image for riariases
riariases

2335

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#14 riariases
Member since 2007 • 2335 Posts
Incase any of that confused you: [ ] (square) = 1 pixel [x] = filled pixel [o] = empty pixel The top diagram represents the DS screen resoution(not to scale). The bottom diagram represents the 3DS screen resolution(not to scale).
Avatar image for darth-pyschosis
darth-pyschosis

9322

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 darth-pyschosis
Member since 2006 • 9322 Posts

Seems like Joystiq was over reacting. Seriously, they are advising against buying a 3D in general because of this issue

Its no big deal. Plenty of people don't mind playing GCN and Wii games on stretch HDTV wide screens, thus making the image not as satisfying even with component cables. People don't mind playing PS1/PS2 games on their PS3s, or Xbox Originals on 360s. And PC has had this issue for years with some software.

I don't care about black bars, or stretched images. The game plays the same to my knowledge. Thats what is important

Avatar image for soulreaper-4
soulreaper-4

2247

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16 soulreaper-4
Member since 2007 • 2247 Posts

I really don't know if this is sure or not. According to users in youtube they look more vibrant while others are saying the opposite.

Avatar image for fer-
fer-

318

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 fer-
Member since 2010 • 318 Posts
so long as its not flickering or something I don't think it will be much of a problem...find out soon though I suppose
Avatar image for BrunoBRS
BrunoBRS

74156

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#18 BrunoBRS
Member since 2005 • 74156 Posts
i grew up playing on super game boy (the SNES version of the game boy player), i could care less about something like that.
Avatar image for BrunoBRS
BrunoBRS

74156

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#19 BrunoBRS
Member since 2005 • 74156 Posts
[QUOTE="jackozz15"]

It's due to the scaling of the screen :P Just play them on a normal DS

nini200
Then why does it not do this on the DSi XL?

it does. but it's so insignificant people don't notice. on the contrary, everyone loves playing on the XL.
Avatar image for The-Longshot
The-Longshot

1321

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 20

User Lists: 0

#20 The-Longshot
Member since 2006 • 1321 Posts

Not a prob for me AT ALL. I agree with above, joystiqs makin a stink about nothin, they are just looking for any small thing they can to say bad about it. I'd bet 95% of owners will be indifferent to this "crappy playback" cuz in truth it aint that crappy anyway. Besides Im not buying a 3ds to play ds games anyway, personally I'm getting it for the 3d ones.

Avatar image for calebcop
calebcop

889

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#21 calebcop
Member since 2009 • 889 Posts

It's not like it will have a bunch of Lag. Just a little longer start up times. I mean, come on, to have a backwards compatible system is a plus. And if it ticks you off go buy a DS and DONT make good use of your 3DS.

Avatar image for BrunoBRS
BrunoBRS

74156

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#22 BrunoBRS
Member since 2005 • 74156 Posts
WAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIT. I JUST REALIZED IT. what did they say about the PSPGo? what will they say about the NGP? "better no BC than almost insignificantly worse BC caused by the advance of technology"?
Avatar image for deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
deactivated-5e90a3763ea91

9437

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 13

#23 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
Member since 2008 • 9437 Posts

That is hardly an issue.

Avatar image for riariases
riariases

2335

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#24 riariases
Member since 2007 • 2335 Posts
WAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIT. I JUST REALIZED IT. what did they say about the PSPGo? what will they say about the NGP? "better no BC than almost insignificantly worse BC caused by the advance of technology"?BrunoBRS
The NGP has exactly 4x the resolution of the PSP so backwards compatibility will be easy. It could still show in its native resolution.
Avatar image for nini200
nini200

11484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#25 nini200
Member since 2005 • 11484 Posts
i grew up playing on super game boy (the SNES version of the game boy player), i could care less about something like that.BrunoBRS
Same here. You know if you hold the 2 shoulder buttons, you can access a secret menu for the Super Game Boy. You can change colors and all sorts of stuff.

@dzimm and Riar

Ah, should've thought about res being higher. I didn't think of that at all. That makes sense but it seems almost unnoticable from the video. It wont bother me because like Bruno, I grew up on Super Game Boy and that didnt bother me. I'm still keeping my DS though due to some of the game info being linked to that system.
Avatar image for Evenios
Evenios

1615

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#26 Evenios
Member since 2005 • 1615 Posts

now im kinda glad i got the Nintendo DSi XL the moment i found out that the 3DS was NOT coming out Nov of 2011! :-)

Avatar image for trugs26
trugs26

7541

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#27 trugs26
Member since 2004 • 7541 Posts

Meh. I've played stretched games before and it doesn't matter to me tbh.

Avatar image for ddgafd
ddgafd

193

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#28 ddgafd
Member since 2007 • 193 Posts

Yea, I noticed it too. It doesn't piss me off, but it's still annoying. Also, I think the sound quality is slightly worse, but it might just be me.

Avatar image for arnez88
arnez88

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 arnez88
Member since 2011 • 25 Posts
Any one knows how to use the full screen option on 3DS? Are playing Kingdom Hearts now on 3DS, and the small screen option is too small. The normal option is ok, but a bit fuzzy, still it does not fill the whole screen? Anyone knows if its possible?
Avatar image for arnez88
arnez88

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#30 arnez88
Member since 2011 • 25 Posts

Yea, I noticed it too. It doesn't piss me off, but it's still annoying. Also, I think the sound quality is slightly worse, but it might just be me.

ddgafd
Thats because the sound quality on the DS games IS worse then on the 3DS wish is fully improved on all levels.
Avatar image for soulreaper-4
soulreaper-4

2247

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 soulreaper-4
Member since 2007 • 2247 Posts
[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]WAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIT. I JUST REALIZED IT. what did they say about the PSPGo? what will they say about the NGP? "better no BC than almost insignificantly worse BC caused by the advance of technology"?riariases
The NGP has exactly 4x the resolution of the PSP so backwards compatibility will be easy. It could still show in its native resolution.

BUT THEY CAN'T USE UMD GAMES!
Avatar image for CyberKlown28
CyberKlown28

1198

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#32 CyberKlown28
Member since 2008 • 1198 Posts
GBA games got squeezed by bars too, on the DS. I'm getting a 3DS for 3DS games though, so whatever problems have no affect on me.
Avatar image for arnez88
arnez88

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 arnez88
Member since 2011 • 25 Posts
Just compared them again, and its not so bad at all. It looks smoother on the 3DS and more pixilated on the DS. It because when you start playing 3DS games, the DS graphics just seems so bad compared.
Avatar image for El_Zo1212o
El_Zo1212o

6057

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 El_Zo1212o
Member since 2009 • 6057 Posts
Any one knows how to use the full screen option on 3DS? Are playing Kingdom Hearts now on 3DS, and the small screen option is too small. The normal option is ok, but a bit fuzzy, still it does not fill the whole screen? Anyone knows if its possible?arnez88
From what I've read, I believe you hold start and select when starting the game.
Avatar image for riariases
riariases

2335

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#35 riariases
Member since 2007 • 2335 Posts
[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]WAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIWAIT. I JUST REALIZED IT. what did they say about the PSPGo? what will they say about the NGP? "better no BC than almost insignificantly worse BC caused by the advance of technology"?soulreaper-4
The NGP has exactly 4x the resolution of the PSP so backwards compatibility will be easy. It could still show in its native resolution.

BUT THEY CAN'T USE UMD GAMES!

Most games are on the PSN Network, so yeah it still has backwards compatibility.
Avatar image for BrunoBRS
BrunoBRS

74156

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#36 BrunoBRS
Member since 2005 • 74156 Posts
[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i grew up playing on super game boy (the SNES version of the game boy player), i could care less about something like that.nini200
Same here. You know if you hold the 2 shoulder buttons, you can access a secret menu for the Super Game Boy. You can change colors and all sorts of stuff.

i'd spend hours drawing on the background rather than moving on with my pokemon battle... i was a kid of simple tastes :P