Disaster: DOC IGN UK Review

8.0

I wasn't expecting that much.:D

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good score, I might get this.

still scum off my shoe.

What is IGN trying to do? Lead people into a false sense that this game is not only good, but more than good enough to ship it to the U.S.?

I'm disgusted.

Once again no bias from IGN

"some people will absolutely detest Disaster: Day of Crisis. It's an awkward combination of extremes - old-school adventuring burdened with new-fangled mini-game sensibilities; abstract game mechanics wrestled into a single plot-driven narrative; sometimes lackluster visuals and pacing thoroughly at odds with that bombastic spectacle and massive ambition. It's also fundamentally shallow, remarkably inconsistent and chronically naff."

Awkward, lackluster, and shallow
Nope, that deserves a high score.

I also think my garbage can qualifies for fine dining with these rules.Jaysonguy

You're absolutely determined to cherry-pick quotes from IGN, aren't you? :P

"Yet, against all odds, it's one of the most entertainingly daft game's we've played this year."

"It's giddyingly silly but relentlessly unpredictable and gloriously compulsive as a result. It's here that the fragmented approach to gameplay really proves its worth. There's such a massive amount of diversity and playful imagination on offer that progress is fairly irresistible, despite the game's fragmented structure and occasional blunders into rough-edged implementation."

"Once you're beyond (the first chapter) though, the idiosyncratic method in Disaster's madness becomes much more obvious, with the endless procession of unexpectedly varied and creative mechanics proving surprisingly engaging."

"Generally though, despite its rough edges, there's an incredibly unique, hugely visceral experience to be had with Day of Crisis. In terms of blockbuster spectacle, Disaster's an absolute belter with appropriately cheesy dialogue and voice-acting, a fast-moving, preposterous plot and some truly bombastic sound design. Visually too, it's a generally impressive piece of work. Characters are well-animated with lip-synching and facial animations bringing the B-movie melodrama to life. What's more, outdoor areas are packed full of detail. Admittedly, polygons are mostly lumpy and textures aren't always crisp but you really won't care when your Wii starts firing on all cylinders."

And the second half of the part you quoted:

"When it works, it's a relentless, thrilling assault on your senses; a huge grin of game. And when it doesn't, when it starts to wobble precariously on its own flimsy parts, it's still compulsive in its creativity, inexplicable in its uniqueness and, most importantly, one thoroughly fun ride."

still scum off my shoe.

What is IGN trying to do? Lead people into a false sense that this game is not only good, but more than good enough to ship it to the U.S.?

I'm disgusted.

wiifan001

Is it that impossible to believe that they might have liked it?

like it? well maybe.

an 8.0? no.

They're well aware that Reggie said if reviews were poor then it wouldn't come to the U.S. I'm gonna say IGN probably raised even higher just for extra support.

Is it that impossible to believe that they might have liked it?

GabuEx

No it's not

Some people LOVE scrapple and hate steak The problem is when you rate the scrapple higher then steak when you're using someone else's rules.

Let's use Gamespot's rules.
If a reviewer gets a game and it's short it's a demerit and if a game has broken controls that gets a demerit.

Well if a reviewer here likes short games because it means he can feel accomplished and if he likes broken controls because of the "surprise" of where he'll go next he can't use that in his review. He can't rate the game high because it had two of his favorite things.

Because a game is stupid fun doesn't mean it should score high.

That's like giving Aquaman a high score because it was reviewed by an Aquaman fan who really loves button mashing and a general lack of clarity.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Is it that impossible to believe that they might have liked it?

Jaysonguy

No it's not

Some people LOVE scrapple and hate steak The problem is when you rate the scrapple higher then steak when you're using someone else's rules.

Let's use Gamespot's rules.
If a reviewer gets a game and it's short it's a demerit and if a game has broken controls that gets a demerit.

Well if a reviewer here likes short games because it means he can feel accomplished and if he likes broken controls because of the "surprise" of where he'll go next he can't use that in his review. He can't rate the game high because it had two of his favorite things.

Because a game is stupid fun doesn't mean it should score high.

That's like giving Aquaman a high score because it was reviewed by an Aquaman fan who really loves button mashing and a general lack of clarity.

That's absolute nonsense. Who are you to say a flawed game that's "FUN" shouldn't be reviewed well? It's the same thing with No More Heroes. I don't give a $&%@ about the flaws in No More Heroes. It's fun. I won't give a $#!@ about the flaws in Disaster: DoC. How do enjoy anything if all you care about are its flaws?

like it? well maybe.

an 8.0? no.

They're well aware that Reggie said if reviews were poor then it wouldn't come to the U.S. I'm gonna say IGN probably raised even higher just for extra support.

wiifan001

Well, the extent to which they would want it to come to the US is directly proportional to the extent that they liked the game. If they hated it, they obviously wouldn't care about that. That means that the only situation in which they'd want it to come to the US so badly that they'd consider inflating their scores is the situation in which they already really liked the game... in which case an 8 sounds more along the lines of how much they probably liked it than an artificial inflation. :P

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Is it that impossible to believe that they might have liked it?

Jaysonguy

No it's not

Some people LOVE scrapple and hate steak The problem is when you rate the scrapple higher then steak when you're using someone else's rules.

Let's use Gamespot's rules.
If a reviewer gets a game and it's short it's a demerit and if a game has broken controls that gets a demerit.

Well if a reviewer here likes short games because it means he can feel accomplished and if he likes broken controls because of the "surprise" of where he'll go next he can't use that in his review. He can't rate the game high because it had two of his favorite things.

Because a game is stupid fun doesn't mean it should score high.

That's like giving Aquaman a high score because it was reviewed by an Aquaman fan who really loves button mashing and a general lack of clarity.

If a reviewer plays a game and, despite its flaws, found it to be an engaging and highly entertaining, the responsible thing to do would be to simply say so. The review pretty much lays it out in full in the first three sentences: it's not swamped by polygons, hype, and multi-million dollar polish, but it's extremely fun.

Honestly, sometimes I get the sense that people forget what the point of video games are if the extent to which a game is fun is only a small part of what we're supposed to base our reviews on. Fun isn't just one aspect of the game; it's the be all and end all of a game, the sole differentiator between a good game and a bad game, and the only thing that matters.

Honestly, sometimes I get the sense that people forget what the point of video games are if the extent to which a game is fun is only a small part of what we're supposed to base our reviews on. Fun isn't just one aspect of the game; it's the be all and end all of a game, the sole differentiator between a good game and a bad game, and the only thing that matters.
GabuEx

I think it's because Jaysonguy is actually a robot, void of emotion and spontaneity.

If a reviewer plays a game and, despite its flaws, found it to be an engaging and highly entertaining, the responsible thing to do would be to simply say so. The review pretty much lays it out in full in the first three sentences: it's not swamped by polygons, hype, and multi-million dollar polish, but it's extremely fun.

Honestly, sometimes I get the sense that people forget what the point of video games are if the extent to which a game is fun is only a small part of what we're supposed to base our reviews on. Fun isn't just one aspect of the game; it's the be all and end all of a game, the sole differentiator between a good game and a bad game, and the only thing that matters.

GabuEx

(Using PS1 porting to Wii loophole+SE rehash possibility) This is the exact deal with Chrono Cross. Heart is where the game is.

My question is...why are you arguing about the review of a game you wanted? If you'regoing to argue inflation, take conversion rate into account. Currently, the dollar is .77Euro, so an 8.0 ends up as a 6.1 in America.

Can you live with a 6.1 rating?

Honestly, sometimes I get the sense that people forget what the point of video games are if the extent to which a game is fun is only a small part of what we're supposed to base our reviews on. Fun isn't just one aspect of the game; it's the be all and end all of a game, the sole differentiator between a good game and a bad game, and the only thing that matters.

GabuEx

Ok, so by saying this you must also think that review sites like IGN and Gamespot are doing things incorrectly right?

They break a game down into the minutia, focusing and then dissecting each area of the game. Some sites give numerical scores for each area while others focus on the pros and cons in a snapshot form.

To you none of that matters?

It's just fun or not?

I'll agree with you to a certain extent here. I searched for Aquaman because it was so bad that it was good. On the other hand I wouldn't rate the game high.

So what you're saying is that games like Big Rigs should be suggested by reviewers because of the fun you can have with them even if they fail in the other areas?

It's not about the quality of the food, it's if it fills your stomach or not?

8.0

I wasn't expecting that much.:D

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lancea34

I'm currently playing it and it's a lot of fun. Sure, the graphics could have been better, but, once you get through the first few chapters, and can then start to level up weapons and Ray himself the game really picks up. There's loads of cheesy dialogue "EAT MY BALLISTICS" being my fav so far. The game doesn't take itself too seriously which is refreshing.

Maybe the conspiracy theorists ought to import the game or wait for it to come to there region before they whine about it.

Jasonguy or Jason bourne *ponders

Maybe the conspiracy theorists ought to import the game or wait for it to come to there region before they whine about it.

keano3333

That's the problem, we're whining BECAUSE we won't see a region release. Unless Disaster does well in your country, we will never see it here.

That's why Nintendo is telling us to play Sega games instead.

If you havent played the game then stop whining.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Honestly, sometimes I get the sense that people forget what the point of video games are if the extent to which a game is fun is only a small part of what we're supposed to base our reviews on. Fun isn't just one aspect of the game; it's the be all and end all of a game, the sole differentiator between a good game and a bad game, and the only thing that matters.

Jaysonguy

Ok, so by saying this you must also think that review sites like IGN and Gamespot are doing things incorrectly right?

They break a game down into the minutia, focusing and then dissecting each area of the game. Some sites give numerical scores for each area while others focus on the pros and cons in a snapshot form.

To you none of that matters?

It's just fun or not?

I'll agree with you to a certain extent here. I searched for Aquaman because it was so bad that it was good. On the other hand I wouldn't rate the game high.

So what you're saying is that games like Big Rigs should be suggested by reviewers because of the fun you can have with them even if they fail in the other areas?

It's not about the quality of the food, it's if it fills your stomach or not?

Of course that stuff matters, but only to the extent that it makes the game enjoyable. That's the sole point of graphics, audio design, level design, gameplay, or any other part of a game. A game can get 10s across the board on graphics, audio, and what have you, but if it sucks, it sucks, and deserves to be rated as such. On the other hand, a game can have flaws and graphics that fall below the cutting edge, but if it's fun, it's fun, and deserves to be rated accordingly. That's one of the main reasons why I liked the fact that GameSpot detached its scoring system from the components, because they recognized that none of that really matters except as far as they make the game enjoyable.

The bottom line is that fun is the quality of the food. The other stuff is just the various culinary garnishments that are there to make the food look good before you eat it.

so is this actually coming to US?

Thx for the link

so is this actually coming to US?

Thx for the link

chang_1910

"Awkward combination of extremes, old-school adventuring burdened with new-fangled mini-game sensibilities, abstract game mechanics wrestled into a single plot-driven narrative, sometimes lackluster visuals, fundamentally shallow"Jaysonguy

Yeah! NONE of that sounds like No More Heroes.

Once again I'll say that this is almost exactly how I describe NMH, which in my opinion, is one of the top 3 Wii titles.

I think many people were expecting a first party quality from a second party developer and are now very disappointed.

[QUOTE="chang_1910"]so is this actually coming to US?

Thx for the link

Cesar_Barba

:( this game looks quite nice... see?

Can you legally play UK games on a US Wii?

EDIT: btw Hi cesar :D

[QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"][QUOTE="chang_1910"]so is this actually coming to US?

Thx for the link

chang_1910

:( this game looks quite nice... see?

Can you legally play UK games on a US Wii?

EDIT: btw Hi cesar :D

oh.. I wish they could stop locking consoles.. but I`m sure there is some bussiness reason for that :P

I hope that it comes then, bc I`m refuse to "go around" to play games.... I was tracking this game since a loong time ago. It would be really :( if I could not play it...

Because a game is stupid fun doesn't mean it should score high.

Jaysonguy

you mean the reviewer shouldn't have had his own opinion? he should've had _yours_?

I have been playing this game and its pretty decent tbh, sure it is cheesey and the camera controls are abit annoying. Some areas the graphics look bad and some areas it looks good. It has some really interesting ideas going into this game.Mitazaki

*gasp* you just said this game is pretty decent...prepare yourself from being borderline-trolled by jaysonguy...yes, the same guy that declared he won't be buying any wii games anymore a few weeks back...

(if i get modded for this, jaysonguy should get modded too. disrupting the entire wii forum for weeks now. lol)

Once again no bias from IGN "some people will absolutely detest Disaster: Day of Crisis. It's an awkward combination of extremes - old-school adventuring burdened with new-fangled mini-game sensibilities; abstract game mechanics wrestled into a single plot-driven narrative; sometimes lackluster visuals and pacing thoroughly at odds with that bombastic spectacle and massive ambition. It's also fundamentally shallow, remarkably inconsistent and chronically naff." Awkward, lackluster, and shallow Nope, that deserves a high score. I also think my garbage can qualifies for fine dining with these rules.Jaysonguy

They say a lot more than that in the review. This game is kinda like No More Heroes. Some will find it just a meriocre action game with a good deal of problems, some however will look past that and love the heart of the game.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Is it that impossible to believe that they might have liked it?

Jaysonguy

No it's not

Some people LOVE scrapple and hate steak The problem is when you rate the scrapple higher then steak when you're using someone else's rules.

Let's use Gamespot's rules.
If a reviewer gets a game and it's short it's a demerit and if a game has broken controls that gets a demerit.

Well if a reviewer here likes short games because it means he can feel accomplished and if he likes broken controls because of the "surprise" of where he'll go next he can't use that in his review. He can't rate the game high because it had two of his favorite things.

Because a game is stupid fun doesn't mean it should score high.

That's like giving Aquaman a high score because it was reviewed by an Aquaman fan who really loves button mashing and a general lack of clarity.

You gave Rayman Raving Rabbids a 9.8, when it clearly does not deserve such a score by your definition of how a game should be rated.

You're being a hypocrite. That's all there is to it.

i have to agree w/ jasonguy on this one. never played it...but it looks uber campy. this game has weak sauce all over it...

take it away

I really dont think guys like jasonguy or the poster above me should comment about the game since they havent played it and dont really have much to judge over apart from the short gameplay videos.

Well I just got the game right now and I must say that I am very impressed. I thought this game was going to be bad or mediocre, but its really fun and has epicness written all over it. The story is really good and you just can't stop playing the game. There are also alot of different gameplay elements, like free-roling in 3rd person, saving people, on rails shooting battles, driving etc. I really dont get why Nintendo didnt hype this title at all since it looks like they put alot work into the game apart from the graphics which doesnt look that great by this gens standards.

so just b/c ive never played this game i CANT say it looks wack. i wonder if a game looks good, im guessing i cant say it looks good. b/c your philosophy is that you cant say anything until you play it.

and since the game is so good...get off the forums and go ENJOY it!

so just b/c ive never played this game i CANT say it looks wack. i wonder if a game looks good, im guessing i cant say it looks good. b/c your philosophy is that you cant say anything until you play it.

and since the game is so good...get off the forums and go ENJOY it!

red_sovereign

If comes out here at-least rent and try it before craping on it. So yeah you can't judge it until you tried and that a fact that weak arguments can't change, and if its good i would enjoy rather than argue with you about, but i live in North America so at this point i can't even try it.

First 8,8,8,7 from Famitsu and now 8 out of 10 IGN UK, dam NoA get this published here.

i have to agree w/ jasonguy on this one. never played it...but it looks uber campy. this game has weak sauce all over it...

take it away

red_sovereign

This game is a take/homage on 80/90s Action movies, with alot of influences in over the top B-Action Movies.

Being campy is one of its virtues

Once again no bias from IGN "some people will absolutely detest Disaster: Day of Crisis. It's an awkward combination of extremes - old-school adventuring burdened with new-fangled mini-game sensibilities; abstract game mechanics wrestled into a single plot-driven narrative; sometimes lackluster visuals and pacing thoroughly at odds with that bombastic spectacle and massive ambition. It's also fundamentally shallow, remarkably inconsistent and chronically naff." Awkward, lackluster, and shallow Nope, that deserves a high score. I also think my garbage can qualifies for fine dining with these rules.Jaysonguy

you are the most negative person on gamespot

i've never seen you post anything happy unless you're insulting something

why do you even come here if you're always complaining? i'm not trying to be rude, but if i come across that way i am sorry jasonguy. i'm trying to make you look dumb, or anyone

but every time i see your user name and that cat i think, the cat looks too happy to be speaking such negativity in this thread

First 8,8,8,7 from Famitsu and now 8 out of 10 IGN UK, dam NoA get this published here.

komdosina

it would've silenced some of the moronic wii "abandoning" the hardcores BS that is from elitiest people who were never "hardcore" in the first place

i mean its been out for months in other countries and it shouldn't take that long to translate

also fatal frame in japan has already outsold every fatal frame on ps2 before it worldwide

meaning ps2 fatal frame 3=60,000 units wii fatal frame 4 in japan=100,000 units

so the fact that fatal frame was published by nintendo, and released in japan in late july and and didn't make it this year is a gaff on nintendo's part they shou;d've pushed for it

this fall could've been fatal frame, animal crossing, disaster, wario land, wii music, mushroom men, and deadley creatures

but no, nintendo dropped the ball. but thankfully it will make Q1 and Q2 2009 even better

also fatal frame in japan has already outsold every fatal frame on ps2 before it worldwide

meaning ps2 fatal frame 3=60,000 units wii fatal frame 4 in japan=100,000 unitsdarth-pyschosis

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]also fatal frame in japan has already outsold every fatal frame on ps2 before it worldwide

meaning ps2 fatal frame 3=60,000 units wii fatal frame 4 in japan=100,000 unitsCesar_Barba

Famitsu gave it a 34/40. that's all I know.

And the others were really great, and scary too, you should get them.

[QUOTE="red_sovereign"]

i have to agree w/ jasonguy on this one. never played it...but it looks uber campy. this game has weak sauce all over it...

take it away

Fawlcon_Pawnch

This game is a take/homage on 80/90s Action movies, with alot of influences in over the top B-Action Movies.

Being campy is one of its virtues

so this game is campy on purpose??? thats how i wanna save the city...

[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="red_sovereign"]

i have to agree w/ jasonguy on this one. never played it...but it looks uber campy. this game has weak sauce all over it...

take it away

red_sovereign

This game is a take/homage on 80/90s Action movies, with alot of influences in over the top B-Action Movies.

Being campy is one of its virtues

so this game is campy on purpose??? thats how i wanna save the city...

How old are you?

I'm not trolling, its a serious question?

do you detect youthfulness in my postings??

how old are you?

do you detect youthfulness in my postings??

how old are you?

red_sovereign

I'm 21

And i didnt say it in a harmfull way. If you are younger, your confusion on the campiness and the 80s/early 90s influences is perfectly understandable.