Do you REALLY still love Nintendo?

I am a 30+ gamer . I bought every Nintendo System (except the NES) i own a Wii (i actually had to buy it twice since they broke in my apartment and stole everything) as well as a 360 and a PS3 .

As a person that owns a business i really admire Nintendo. They are making a lot of money but as a gamer saying i am disappointed is a huge understatement.

I haven't touched my Nintendo Wii since the 2 weeks i plaied Smash Brothers . I am playing so much stuff on my other systems and i am also leaving some for after the Holiday season ( CoD WaW, Left for dead just an example)

DO you really still care , as a gamer , about Nintendo? I mean is thjere really anyone who feels happy they bought a Wii?

Anyone who's followed Nintendo from the start knows this generation is no different then any other generation

Nintendo is based on casuals. That's how they got the market back in the mid 80's. They created casual games like Mario Bros and Zelda and have been keeping that going ever since.

Nintendo has NEVER made complicated games that are out of a 4 year old's range. Their games are easy and accessible that can be played by anyone and the gameplay and stories can be understood by the youngest of children or the newest of the gamer.

The idea that they used to be for the "gamer" and now they're not is false.

It's people not aware of their history that keep on making this mistake.

Anyone who's followed Nintendo from the start knows this generation is no different then any other generation

Nintendo is based on casuals. That's how they got the market back in the mid 80's. They created casual games like Mario Bros and Zelda and have been keeping that going ever since.

Nintendo has NEVER made complicated games that are out of a 4 year old's range. Their games are easy and accessible that can be played by anyone and the gameplay and stories can be understood by the youngest of children or the newest of the gamer.

The idea that they used to be for the "gamer" and now they're not is false.

It's people not aware of their history that keep on making this mistake.

Jaysonguy

mmm...there is a big difference between "casual" and crappy

i plaied and loved MArio and Zelda but WiiPLay , wii Music are BAD not casual.Why did we have to buy a new hardware to play games that could have ben on the NGC? Sadly NIntendo has given a whole new meaning to the world casual.

ZBefore casual was someone that enjoyed video games sporadically and enjoied them even if not over complicated now Casual are grandpas and Soccer moms who buy games if they like what is ion the cover and not for the actual game itself .

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Anyone who's followed Nintendo from the start knows this generation is no different then any other generation

Nintendo is based on casuals. That's how they got the market back in the mid 80's. They created casual games like Mario Bros and Zelda and have been keeping that going ever since.

Nintendo has NEVER made complicated games that are out of a 4 year old's range. Their games are easy and accessible that can be played by anyone and the gameplay and stories can be understood by the youngest of children or the newest of the gamer.

The idea that they used to be for the "gamer" and now they're not is false.

It's people not aware of their history that keep on making this mistake.

ItalianHammerUS

mmm...there is a big difference between "casual" and crappy

i plaied and loved MArio and Zelda but WiiPLay , wii Music are BAD not casual.Why did we have to buy a new hardware to play games that could have ben on the NGC? Sadly NIntendo has given a whole new meaning to the world casual.

ZBefore casual was someone that enjoyed video games sporadically and enjoied them even if not over complicated now Casual are grandpas and Soccer moms who buy games if they like what is ion the cover and not for the actual game itself .

Wrong

You liked Mario and Zelda and enjoyed them both

You didn't like Wii Play and Wii Music. Well let's see....

Wii Play is introductory software included with the Wiimote to allow new users the ability to experience all the motions the Wiimote can do. Now were you already well versed in what the Wiimote could do? Have you played games before and knew what to expect? Then that's your mistake

Wii Music is mainly for the younger crowd of players (age and gameplay wise) that aren't ready to play a game like Guitar Hero and Rock Band. Since you you already said you're 30 and have been playing games for years we can now see that you made your second mistake.

Great job at attacking the causal player who "buys what they see on the box" here's a newsflash, the majority of people who buy games do so from what they see on the box. You think this is the first generation that does that?

Casuals are the same as they've always been. Someone who does not have video games as their main hobby, that's it. When you ask a casual player what they do in their free time as a hobby they wont say video games until they're farther down the list.

Anyone who's followed Nintendo from the start knows this generation is no different then any other generation

Nintendo is based on casuals. That's how they got the market back in the mid 80's. They created casual games like Mario Bros and Zelda and have been keeping that going ever since.

Nintendo has NEVER made complicated games that are out of a 4 year old's range. Their games are easy and accessible that can be played by anyone and the gameplay and stories can be understood by the youngest of children or the newest of the gamer.

The idea that they used to be for the "gamer" and now they're not is false.

It's people not aware of their history that keep on making this mistake.

Jaysonguy

You see that is the problem .

I am not attacking but you are defending.

When i was 8 my father would buy games for me on the Atari 2600 that way

and there is nothing wrong with casual gamers but i feel that the "hardcore" gamer was abandoned

Since Smash Brother (wich , in my opinion,l was good not AWESOME) there has bee no release to please the gamer

I am a gamer and so, i wouldf have tought, is most people thatwrites in a video games forum

And as a gamer i am disappointed . I havet been on Wii forums since i first bought a Wii and was curious to know

if gamers were as disappointed as i am but in my post there is no attack.

I've never been a big nintendo fan. However, I respect them and I have High Hopes that the Wii will start getting some more killer gamesacsguitar

Ofcourse Nintendo is still the same as they always been and I couldn't be more happier with Nintendo since they are still making great games that the fans like just look at all the games they released from 2006 to 2008 on the Wii that is more then most First Parties do and they have alot of games that will release in 2009. Games like Punch Out, Sin & Punishment 2, Another Code R, Dynamic Slash, Spawn Smasher, Cosmic Walker, and Forever Blue 2. Sure these are all 2nd Party titles but Nintendo owns the rights to those IPs and they had to get somebody to make them. n-space and Monster Games are also making titles for Nintendo.Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]Ofcourse Nintendo is still the same as they always been and I couldn't be more happier with Nintendo since they are still making great games that the fans like just look at all the games they released from 2006 to 2008 on the Wii that is more then most First Parties do and they have alot of games that will release in 2009. Games like Punch Out, Sin & Punishment 2, Another Code R, Dynamic Slash, Spawn Smasher, Cosmic Walker, and Forever Blue 2. Sure these are all 2nd Party titles but Nintendo owns the rights to those IPs and they had to get somebody to make them. n-space and Monster Games are also making titles for Nintendo.ItalianHammerUS

I never loved Nintendo, but I'm getting the Wii for the controls. I'm coming over from PC gaming and I really can't stand playing too many games with joystick technology that hasn't changed much since the 1970's (they have added more sticks and buttons to the controllers, but the basic technology was available in the 70's). Why anybody would want to play Call of Duty on a joystick is beyond me, and RPG's would be so much better with the Wiimote as long as it's done right.

Nintendo has come out with something revolutionary for games, and the industry still seems kind of confused on what to do with it. Some are finally starting to get it. It's been a long time since Nintendo was the leader in sales and Nintendo had to find a niche in order to survive in the console world, and that niche was casual games and games for children. I do not think this niche is why the Wii is doing so well since previous systems seemed to be aimed in the same direction and they did not do nearly as well as the Wii. The Wii's success is due to the controls, and there are some really cool titles coming out soon (again, many developers in the industry still do not get the Wii or are so stuck in their ways and are unwilling to try something new, which is why so many titles on other systems are stale).

2009 is the year of the Wii as far as games are concerned -- there are finally some really great titles coming out and I think other developers are going to take notice. These are the games I'm interested in buying, and most are coming out in 2009:

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Call of Duty World at War

Medal of Honor

Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire

Conduit

Monster Hunter

Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga

Metroid Prime 3

Fragile: Farewell Ruins to the Moon?

Deadly Creatures

Dokapon Kingdom (party game)

Dynamic Slash Wii

Shiren the Wanderer III

Overlord Dark Legend

Battalion Wars 2

RYGAR: The Battle of Argus

The Wii still needs more shooters and WRPG's (games like Battlefield and old school Might and Magic are lacking), though this is definitely a start.

Do you guys own only the Wii or any other systems as well?Cesar_Barba

take it to system wars.

play it, don't play it.

why do you think we, on Wii Forum, really care?

take it to system wars.

play it, don't play it.

why do you think we, on Wii Forum, really care?

[QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"]I have not touched my PS3 since I beat MGS 4, I have not touched my X360 for more than 3 months, and my Wii for a week, then again, I do work 80 hours a week and don't have as much time to play, but you better believe I love Nintendo games, as well as others, it's just that I have a whole lot of more fun on Wii.ItalianHammerUS

Is it really neccessary to have a Wii, 360, and PS3? Do you really have that much time and money to waste on gaming?JRYAN34

Is it really neccessary to have a Wii, 360, and PS3? Do you really have that much time and money to waste on gaming?JRYAN34

I'm disappointed in Nintendo's choices especially this year. They could literally blow Microsoft and Sony out of the water with their software, but they're trying to prevent making the video game industry stagnate. Our industry wouldn't survive if new gamers weren't introduced and if Nintendo can bring new people into gaming thent that's potential revenue for the rest of that person's life. It's great business for them, sucks for us core games. I'll still support them, but I'm not longer a Nintendo only gamer.Arkk_Angel

I might be overreacting but i am worried for the future of my favorite hobbyItalianHammerUS

I don't get it. If your a "30+ gamer" you should be able to spell "plaied" like "played" Just sayin'.

Also -- I still love Nintendo. A lot of Wii games are some of the best game's I've played in a while.

Nintnedo use to be uber if you ask me. Right after the N64 things went a little down hill, once the Wii came out it started feeling like Nintnedo fell in a hole, they might be selling well, but I sure don't feel like playing Wii Fit or Wii music, please pass me a copy of Mario World.zaku101

To be honest,no,I'm not; Nintendo is falling apart in my eyes,in their games and their choices.Pokemon (formerly one of my favorite handheld franchises) is at an all-time low,Phantom Hourglass is too dumbed-down (in my opinion),Smash Brothers Brawl was a step back from the superb Melee,Nintendo is focusing too much on dumbing down their games to the lowest denominator,GC ports is a terrible idea,the DSi is milkage and a downgrade from the DS Lite,and I could go on and on.Not all of Nintendo has done downhill; I just got Super Mario Galaxy last week,and it has to be one of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had.The problem is that I haven't seen them put as much passion into their other projects as they've put into Super Mario Galaxy.VGobbsesser

first time I've heard ssomeone call the DSi a a downgrade.. How?dotWithShoes

Removing the GBA port (thereby removing one of the best features of the DS and limiting the full use of current DS games that utilize it,like Pokemon),lower battery-life,and shunning everybody whom currently owns a DS by releasing exclusive content for the DSi despite the fact they are still the same system.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] first time I've heard ssomeone call the DSi a a downgrade.. How?VGobbsesser

Removing the GBA port (thereby removing one of the best features of the DS and limiting the full use of current DS games that utilize it,like Pokemon),lower battery-life,and shunning everybody whom currently owns a DS by releasing exclusive content for the DSi despite the fact they are still the same system.

I never loved Nintendo, but I'm getting the Wii for the controls. I'm coming over from PC gaming and I really can't stand playing too many games with joystick technology that hasn't changed much since the 1970's (they have added more sticks and buttons to the controllers, but the basic technology was available in the 70's). Why anybody would want to play Call of Duty on a joystick is beyond me, and RPG's would be so much better with the Wiimote as long as it's done right.

Nintendo has come out with something revolutionary for games, and the industry still seems kind of confused on what to do with it. Some are finally starting to get it. It's been a long time since Nintendo was the leader in sales and Nintendo had to find a niche in order to survive in the console world, and that niche was casual games and games for children. I do not think this niche is why the Wii is doing so well since previous systems seemed to be aimed in the same direction and they did not do nearly as well as the Wii. The Wii's success is due to the controls, and there are some really cool titles coming out soon (again, many developers in the industry still do not get the Wii or are so stuck in their ways and are unwilling to try something new, which is why so many titles on other systems are stale).

2009 is the year of the Wii as far as games are concerned -- there are finally some really great titles coming out and I think other developers are going to take notice. These are the games I'm interested in buying, and most are coming out in 2009:

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Call of Duty World at War

Medal of Honor

Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire

Conduit

Monster Hunter

Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga

Metroid Prime 3

Fragile: Farewell Ruins to the Moon?

Deadly Creatures

Dokapon Kingdom (party game)

Dynamic Slash Wii

Shiren the Wanderer III

Overlord Dark Legend

Battalion Wars 2

RYGAR: The Battle of Argus

The Wii still needs more shooters and WRPG's (games like Battlefield and old school Might and Magic are lacking), though this is definitely a start.

psychobrew

no

if the wii launch with same price tag of $400, it would had flopp

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

I never loved Nintendo, but I'm getting the Wii for the controls. I'm coming over from PC gaming and I really can't stand playing too many games with joystick technology that hasn't changed much since the 1970's (they have added more sticks and buttons to the controllers, but the basic technology was available in the 70's). Why anybody would want to play Call of Duty on a joystick is beyond me, and RPG's would be so much better with the Wiimote as long as it's done right.

Nintendo has come out with something revolutionary for games, and the industry still seems kind of confused on what to do with it. Some are finally starting to get it. It's been a long time since Nintendo was the leader in sales and Nintendo had to find a niche in order to survive in the console world, and that niche was casual games and games for children. I do not think this niche is why the Wii is doing so well since previous systems seemed to be aimed in the same direction and they did not do nearly as well as the Wii. The Wii's success is due to the controls, and there are some really cool titles coming out soon (again, many developers in the industry still do not get the Wii or are so stuck in their ways and are unwilling to try something new, which is why so many titles on other systems are stale).

2009 is the year of the Wii as far as games are concerned -- there are finally some really great titles coming out and I think other developers are going to take notice. These are the games I'm interested in buying, and most are coming out in 2009:

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Call of Duty World at War

Medal of Honor

Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire

Conduit

Monster Hunter

Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga

Metroid Prime 3

Fragile: Farewell Ruins to the Moon?

Deadly Creatures

Dokapon Kingdom (party game)

Dynamic Slash Wii

Shiren the Wanderer III

Overlord Dark Legend

Battalion Wars 2

RYGAR: The Battle of Argus

The Wii still needs more shooters and WRPG's (games like Battlefield and old school Might and Magic are lacking), though this is definitely a start.

dthach614

no

if the wii launch with same price tag of $400, it would had flopp

But, it didn't launch at the price of $400, now did it?

But back on topic: I still love Nintendo and I always have. Yes, I love my Wii console, lots of fun when I need some quick fun like Wii Sports or more in-depth experiences like Metroid Prime 3 or Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Yes, there is more powerful hardware out there. Yes, online could be better and so-on. But the same could be said about anything really. My idea is to just enjoy gaming, have fun.

I don't get it. If your a "30+ gamer" you should be able to spell "plaied" like "played" Just sayin'.

Also -- I still love Nintendo. A lot of Wii games are some of the best game's I've played in a while.

[QUOTE="ItalianHammerUS"]I might be overreacting but i am worried for the future of my favorite hobbyGabuEx

As more and more people buy the Wii, it will get more attention from 3rd parties. Already this year Nintendo has seen some of the best 3rd party support since the SNES. That's saying something.

Now, I don't know what your definition of a "good game" is, or a "hardcore" game, but I assume you look at reviews to make your decisions for you, otherwise you'd realize that there are dozens of good games on the Wii that can appeal to the harcore gamer if you're willing to branch out.

Hell, even if we go by review scores, there are still currently 67 "Good" games:

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So, I assume you haven't picked up all 67 of those games that scored 75 and above (75% is considered a "good game" by review standards), otherwise you wouldn't be complaining right now. Even some of the lower-reviewed games are still fun, you just have to understand what you're playing before you play it. For instance, a game like Elebits (or Eledees, depending on where you're from) is a game that has a good idea, but feels more like a tech-demo than a full game, but that doesn't mean that it's not fun to play while you're playing it.

You have to understand that the Wii is a new idea in the gaming world. Most developers have been accustomed to using the analog sticks and 10+ buttons to do everything in their games for the past decade, it takes time for them to adjust to a completely new way to play games, and it takes time for new ideas to come to fruition. Boom Blox is a perfect example of a new way to play a video game, and for the most part, they nailed it. That game could not have been possible on other systems.

Eventually, we will see a lot more support (both 1st party and 3rd party...although I already see the support myself), more unique games, and more ways to play, and hopefully people like you, who maybe don't understand what the Wii is, what it can be, and what it is going to be, will one day "get it".