Does a lot bad third party games really spell doom for the Wii?

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#1 Retrophan
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I've been hearing a lot about how the large number of low-quality, third party games is going to hurt the Wii's popularity and cause the best developers to neglect the system. Do you think that's true? Doesn't the fact that the Wii is selling like it is guarantee we're going to see developers step up and release five star games to sell to the systems large user-base? Think about it, if an EA or a Ubisoft or whoever developed an exclusive high profile game for the Wii, with the marketing to support it, wouldn't they easily sell millions of copies?

Regarding the "bad games spells doom" theory: according to GameRankings over 200 PS2 games scored less than 50%. Did that huge amount of low quality games impact development and drive the top developers away from the system? Apparently not.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I have to think the amount of Wii's sold will cause developers to create quality games to reach the masses who bought the system and are ready to buy high quality games.

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#2 Jaysonguy
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All best selling consoles have rubbish titles.

The NES was the largest power ever in modern video games yet it had astounding piles of trash for titles mixed in with the rest.

Everything is fine.

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#3 LordQuorthon
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All best selling consoles have rubbish titles.

The NES was the largest power ever in modern video games yet it had astounding piles of trash for titles mixed in with the rest.

Everything is fine.

Jaysonguy

That's what I was going to say. And the SNES had a scary amount of terrible games too.

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I've been hearing a lot about how the large number of low-quality, third party games is going to hurt the Wii's popularity and cause the best developers to neglect the system. Do you think that's true? Doesn't the fact that the Wii is selling like it is guarantee we're going to see developers step up and release five star games to sell to the systems large user-base? Think about it, if an EA or a Ubisoft or whoever developed an exclusive high profile game for the Wii, with the marketing to support it, wouldn't they easily sell millions of copies?

Regarding the "bad games spells doom" theory: according to GameRankings over 200 PS2 games scored less than 50%. Did that huge amount of low quality games impact development and drive the top developers away from the system? Apparently not.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I have to think the amount of Wii's sold will cause developers to create quality games to reach the masses who bought the system and are ready to buy high quality games.

Retrophan

There are over 1200 ps2 games so over 200 is not that bad. This is what killed the GC it's 3rd party support. If it turns out to be the same way for the Wii then your looking at GCs path. If you want to really know which system is winning the console war it would be the 360. I mean come on it has NO support in Japan but it's keeping up with the Wii. 360 sold in Japan 0.56M Wiis sold in Japan 5.00M. Total sales 360 16.48M vs Wii 19.94M.

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#5 luigismansion101
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how is 360 winning when wii sold the same amount of consoles in half the time? the wii needs to get some good third-party games to sell good, because that is the problem, not the lack of good games. there are 20+ great games on the wii right now, but people keep buying stuff like Mario and Sonic at the olympics, wii play, and crap like that. if third party games don't sell, those companies will go to ps3/360. it's not about the user base, but the profit they can make. hopefully people will start buying these great games like No more Heroes because if those types of games don't sell, the third party support will die and the wii will go the way of the gamecube, great games coming from only nintendo.
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#6 raahsnavj
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First, what console war? Second, without 3rd parties I think the longevity of the Wii will shrink. Regardless, it is already a success in my book and has plenty of good stuff to play on it. Sure I would always want more, but for the money invested it has paid off quite nicely.
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#7 chris3116
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[QUOTE="Retrophan"]

I've been hearing a lot about how the large number of low-quality, third party games is going to hurt the Wii's popularity and cause the best developers to neglect the system. Do you think that's true? Doesn't the fact that the Wii is selling like it is guarantee we're going to see developers step up and release five star games to sell to the systems large user-base? Think about it, if an EA or a Ubisoft or whoever developed an exclusive high profile game for the Wii, with the marketing to support it, wouldn't they easily sell millions of copies?

Regarding the "bad games spells doom" theory: according to GameRankings over 200 PS2 games scored less than 50%. Did that huge amount of low quality games impact development and drive the top developers away from the system? Apparently not.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I have to think the amount of Wii's sold will cause developers to create quality games to reach the masses who bought the system and are ready to buy high quality games.

zaku101

There are over 1200 ps2 games so over 200 is not that bad. This is what killed the GC it's 3rd party support. If it turns out to be the same way for the Wii then your looking at GCs path. If you want to really know which system is winning the console war it would be the 360. I mean come on it has NO support in Japan but it's keeping up with the Wii. 360 sold in Japan 0.56M Wiis sold in Japan 5.00M. Total sales 360 16.48M vs Wii 19.94M.

Nintendo announced they sold over 20 million Wii.

The Xbox 360 is slowing down in Europe. In UK, the Wii is now the market leader not the 360. In Japan, it's dead. I really don't think the 360 to win the console war.

If the 3rd party made good games, I'm sure by now that the attach-rate of both Wii and 360 would be similar.

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I don't complain about lack of 3rd party games, i complain about the rushed bad games that some 3rd party companies attempted to sell in the Wii just because they wanted to catch the millionaire hardware sales train.

The videogames industry has this habit of using easy profit as much as possible, sequels that change nothing to the original game, over-exploitation of a previously good concept, copy-cat games. So when some developers saw the wii sales they had to figure out something fast because they had nothing planned, an example is the ammount of party games.

The truth (itsthetruth!) is that not many companies were supporting the wii at launch day and even those probably didn't expect the number of systems sold 1 year later.

So no, bad third party games isn't doom, 3rd parties need some more time to lvl up! (No More heroes = ding!)

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#9 kenakuma
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nintendo set this trend a long time ago and its only getting worse! i saw like 20 copies of hannah montannah and bratz the game on the shelf in gamestop today and just one copy of nmh behind all of them!
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First of all, this belongs in the system wars.
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#11 SSJ100Vegeto
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It will probably turn out that way.

But no, the big sellers of any system are the 1st party games usually. Besides, with the ridiculous amount of 1st party titles Nintendo has, they could stay alive for a long time just on those. Metroid, Mario, Mario sports games, Legend of Zelda, Star Fox, pretty much any game genera you could think of is covered by Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="Retrophan"]

I've been hearing a lot about how the large number of low-quality, third party games is going to hurt the Wii's popularity and cause the best developers to neglect the system. Do you think that's true? Doesn't the fact that the Wii is selling like it is guarantee we're going to see developers step up and release five star games to sell to the systems large user-base? Think about it, if an EA or a Ubisoft or whoever developed an exclusive high profile game for the Wii, with the marketing to support it, wouldn't they easily sell millions of copies?

Regarding the "bad games spells doom" theory: according to GameRankings over 200 PS2 games scored less than 50%. Did that huge amount of low quality games impact development and drive the top developers away from the system? Apparently not.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I have to think the amount of Wii's sold will cause developers to create quality games to reach the masses who bought the system and are ready to buy high quality games.

zaku101

There are over 1200 ps2 games so over 200 is not that bad. This is what killed the GC it's 3rd party support. If it turns out to be the same way for the Wii then your looking at GCs path. If you want to really know which system is winning the console war it would be the 360. I mean come on it has NO support in Japan but it's keeping up with the Wii. 360 sold in Japan 0.56M Wiis sold in Japan 5.00M. Total sales 360 16.48M vs Wii 19.94M.

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#13 Kar3
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there are a lot of bad titles for different consoles but you know how the old saying goes: one man's trash is another man's treasure. i may think one game is bad but another will find it appealing to them.
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#14 kenakuma
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the wii has far to much 3rd party trash. those dev need to clean their games up!
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#15 Rhetorix
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I dont think lack of 3rd party is going to doom the wii, the wii is just fine and will continue to sell. I think where it might hurt is just a lack of original content. You know you'll probably see another mario and zelda game in the console's lifetime plus kart and smash are coming... which are all excellent games, but i feel like 3rd parties are usually the one to create new and different games and genres.
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#16 SHACKR
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I don't think it does that much, but it does contribute alot to having the Wii turn all Gamecube on us and just be kinda crappy after the first few years.. But No More Heroes proved that Thrid-Party games can be awesome