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#1 sherbert-lime
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I say Gameplay handsdown, some still think graphics, i'll go see a movie if i want to stare at amazing graphics.
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#2 chris3116
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Gameplay all the way. You watch graphics. You don't play the graphics.

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#3 aransom
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The Virtual Console is proof that gameplay trumps graphics. I want every game to have both, though.
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#4 Goron_Link
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Gameplay. Look at what happened to Lair

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#5 kwahhn
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I demand both. Pong and Mrs. Pacman where good games but I don't still play them.
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#6 aransom
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Gameplay. Look at what happened to Lair

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I know it's wrong to take pleasure in the misfortune of others, but I'll probably laugh every time Lair is mentioned for a long time.
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#7 DarkMagik9
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Hmm which one? I know! I'll take BOTH.

God, why people want only one thing when they can get both is beyond me.

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#8 Quiksilver0519
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Gameplay, though I wouldn't mind having good graphics too, but if I had to choose, definetly gameplay.
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#9 Jaysonguy
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Hmm which one? I know! I'll take BOTH.

God, why people want only one thing when they can get both is beyond me.

DarkMagik9

Because you can't get both.

The way the industry is made there's a very wide divide between graphics and gameplay. The same sort of divide that's between the single player campaigns and online multiplayers.

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#10 lolag
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you need both in order to have a game you can have the best gameplay but have graphics that were made 20 years ago or something a teenager can do it by messing witht he computerno thank you
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#11 zaku101
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Well you could just get a 360 and you would be getting both at a good price.
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#12 zaku101
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Still graphics add a major jump to gameplay. Just playing counter strike VS Counter strike source the graphics almost change the whole game. Its like the 2D Zeldas becoming 3D on the N64, graphics do a lot and help change the gameplaye.
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#13 1up7
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Gameplay, I would want to play a amazing game, not look at amazing graphics. In other words why buy a game that you are only going to stare at?
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#14 1up7
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Still graphics add a major jump to gameplay. Just playing counter strike VS Counter strike source the graphics almost change the whole game. Its like the 2D Zeldas becoming 3D on the N64, graphics do a lot and help change the gameplaye.zaku101
LoZ:OOT was a little of both IMO
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#15 neo111222333
Member since 2007 • 191 Posts

most definetly gameplay.....and as for games not having good graphics and gameplay, thats wrong....jus look at god of war, or metroid prime 3

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#16 bob_newman
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Well, if you look at my sig, I think you'll find my answer. But still, if a game's graphics are so bad that you can't differentiate left from right, it's unplayable and painful. Though I feel that almost all games that come out now have good enough graphics to see where you are, so it's not really a problem to me. And now, it's sig time!
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#18 Duckman5
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Gameplay all the way. You watch graphics. You don't play the graphics.

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*Claps* Well said.

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#19 Voodooline
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I say Gameplay handsdown, some still think graphics, i'll go see a movie if i want to stare at amazing graphics.sherbert-lime

I agree!!!!

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#20 MetroidPrimePwn
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Why do people make these topics? You can have great gameplay on the 360/PS3, and you can have games with good artstyle on the Wii. It's not like choosing the 360 means you can't have good gameplay, or that the Wii can't have good graphics.
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#21 Voodooline
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Why do people make these topics? You can have great gameplay on the 360/PS3, and you can have games with good artstyle on the Wii. It's not like choosing the 360 means you can't have good gameplay, or that the Wii can't have good graphics.MetroidPrimePwn

I owned a 360 and the gameplay was great. I enjoyed the online alot, but unfortunately i didnt have it for a year before it red light of death. I have never owned a system that did that until then. I just tire of seeing all the graphic threads. I own a wii because its much more envolved and fun for all ages. 360 is more for single player peeps. Just my opinion. I do miss my 360 for the online so yea. But wii is what im am glad i went with in the end.

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#22 grandlx2
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We really needed another topic of the same dumb @$$ discussion 50 billion times over.
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#23 pro_gamer12345
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Gameplay =)
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#24 chefstubbies
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Well for the longest time I would have said Gameplay hands down. But then seeing so many 360 games that supply great gameplay as well as great graphics, I had to run off and buy a 360. So with the technology that's readily available nowadays, it's not so much a question of gameplay "OR" graphics...but for me it's a question of why not both?
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#25 retrofraction12
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well gameplay as long the storyline is amazing and not random crap, grapix when i get really tired
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#26 dinofan01
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defintely gameplay but graphics does help
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#27 Jayesler12
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graphics don't just mean good picture. its also about draw distance, how clothing and details look on a person, and cinematics. its what makes a game more realistic. for example, i saw no cinematics in mp3 in outer space, the stars and planets didn't move.....it was like a cardboard background. however the gameplay was great which i really enjoyed. graphics is nearly just as important as gameplay. i say 60% gameplay and 40% graphics.
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#29 Duckman5
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graphics don't just mean good picture. its also about draw distance, how clothing and details look on a person, and cinematics. its what makes a game more realistic. for example, i saw no cinematics in mp3 in outer space, the stars and planets didn't move.....it was like a cardboard background. however the gameplay was great which i really enjoyed. graphics is nearly just as important as gameplay. i say 60% gameplay and 40% graphics.Jayesler12
Stars don't move very fast when they're light years away.
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#30 yellonet
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I say Gameplay handsdown, some still think graphics, i'll go see a movie if i want to stare at amazing graphics.sherbert-lime
You're in the Wii forum pal.
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#31 Jayesler12
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[QUOTE="Jayesler12"]graphics don't just mean good picture. its also about draw distance, how clothing and details look on a person, and cinematics. its what makes a game more realistic. for example, i saw no cinematics in mp3 in outer space, the stars and planets didn't move.....it was like a cardboard background. however the gameplay was great which i really enjoyed. graphics is nearly just as important as gameplay. i say 60% gameplay and 40% graphics.Duckman5
Stars don't move very fast when they're light years away.

they at least flicker...and i meant that it looked like a flat cardboard background, and usually in games with good cinematics, you can see which stars are closer than the others.....
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#32 Cowmanik
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Obviously its gameplay.

Close your eyes: that's a game without graphics.

Disconnect your controllers: that's a game without gameplay.

They are both important but why should we have to pick either? Can't we have both? Of course we can.

Take the Super Nintendo/Genesis generation most of those games looked good for their time though not all of them were fun to play, I can't think of a fun Super Nintendo/Genesis game that had bad graphics for it's time. The only reason I care about graphics as much as I do (which isn't much) is because good looking and bad looking games cost the same in stores but less for developers. For example MySims and Mario Strikers Charged both cost $49.99, it's fairly obvious that MySims cost less to make but consumers have to pay the same ammount.

I've used 3D modeling programs and I know it doesn't take a lot of effort to make good graphics, the real limit for the Wii's graphics is the hardware. We all know the Wii is a capable system and we've seen what Mario Galaxies looks like, I can't think of a Wii game that looks better than Mario Galaxies. Mario Galaxies may or may not be fun, I don't know yet but if it isn't any fun it won't be because Nintendo focused on good graphics it will be because they didn't try to make a good game.

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#33 DarkMagik9
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Obviously its gameplay.

Close your eyes: that's a game without graphics.

Disconnect your controllers: that's a game without gameplay.

They are both important but why should we have to pick either? Can't we have both? Of course we can.

Take the Super Nintendo/Genesis generation most of those games looked good for their time though not all of them were fun to play, I can't think of a fun Super Nintendo/Genesis game that had bad graphics for it's time. The only reason I care about graphics as much as I do (which isn't much) is because good looking and bad looking games cost the same in stores but less for developers. For example MySims and Mario Strikers Charged both cost $49.99, it's fairly obvious that MySims cost less to make but consumers have to pay the same ammount.

I've used 3D modeling programs and I know it doesn't take a lot of effort to make good graphics, the real limit for the Wii's graphics is the hardware. We all know the Wii is a capable system and we've seen what Mario Galaxies looks like, I can't think of a Wii game that looks better than Mario Galaxies. Mario Galaxies may or may not be fun, I don't know yet but if it isn't any fun it won't be because Nintendo focused on good graphics it will be because they didn't try to make a good game.

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If you're a Nintendo fanboy, you can't have both since than you can't champion the 'Graphics don't matter' slogan and can't feel morally superior to 360/PS3 fanboys.

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#34 CSMBULLDOG
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gameplay, A game can still be great without graphics. but it still needs some graphics.
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#35 AuthenticM
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Gameplay wins. Seriously, this thread is a joke. Graphics can be important depending on the type of games (FPS, sports), but not moreso than gameplay.
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#36 xXRunningRiotXx
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[QUOTE="DarkMagik9"]

Hmm which one? I know! I'll take BOTH.

God, why people want only one thing when they can get both is beyond me.

Jaysonguy

Because you can't get both.

The way the industry is made there's a very wide divide between graphics and gameplay. The same sort of divide that's between the single player campaigns and online multiplayers.

Gears of War was fun though(had good graphics/gameplay)
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#37 wired101
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Gameplay wins. Though good graphics is always a plus. I dont want my game to look like crap. I want atleast 15% better graphics over last gen.But graphics dont make the game heres a good example Guitar Hero. Its all about the gameplay.
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#38 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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well, if i had to chose one, gameplay all the way, but i am glad componies like retro are putting some grafical flare in there titals. excuse the spelling please.
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#39 simplexlumen
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I just hope that the developers that are enjoying graphics and enjoy making games don't forget that

the wii is a great system because it is an opportunity towards great gameplay, even if it took a hit with graphics.

Just because there is a virtual console with old games, doesn't mean that's all people want. We want

nex gen gameplay, even if the graphics have to take a hit. I Hope they don't let it get to them.

Their eyes are used to seeing pretty polygons not showing edges and Final fantasy games that look

really realisitic but the wii, can do some of that too, just not to the same level.

But when there a group of people around and we all holding wiimotes laughing at each other

and enjoying our time, you realize that we even have co-op gameplay potential.

this thread is a little repetitive, but I hope this is not skipped.

Gameplay FTW!

Just look up gametheory, its game methodology and not game visual design that wins out in the end.

With a little timing of course ;)

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#40 ZumaJones07
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everyone who has a wii knows the answer...even people who don't have wiis and have common sense know the answer
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#41 mottaman4
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They go hand in hand, they complete each other, lets say you have a game with an amazing story and gameplay why not put the cherry on top and make it twice as good with kick a$$ graphics!
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#42 illbitcrusher
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As the previous poster said, they go hand in hand. Graphics don't just mean something that looks pretty, it can improve the gameplay and add things such as Dead Rising, that ammount of enemies on screen is just impossible on Wii and an even better example is Assassins Creed which using more processing power to allow for new gameplay mechanics.
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#43 IRaiza
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Well since your saying wii has bad graphics and makes up for it with gameplay, then your right. Gameplay > Graphics.
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#44 Dr_Corndog
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If I had to choose, it would be gameplay, hands down. It is possible to have both. I didn't buy my Wii because I thought its inferior power would make developers focus on gameplay more than they do on the XBox 360 and PS3, or even because I thought the Wii-mote would enhance the gameplay experience (which it does in some instances). I bought it for the first-party titles, mostly Smash Bros. There are games on the XBox 360 and PS3 whose gameplay is just as good as Wii games, plus they have better graphics.
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#45 black_steel_4u
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i got to words for yeahh!! game play or is that word idk
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#46 kazekage1234
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gameplay pwns graphics:)
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#47 kemar7856
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y cant we ever have both....
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#48 cooldust
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both
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#49 nosedive51
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As others have pointed out they can work hand in hand. So I don't understand why people think these are two different things. Look at Grand Theft Auto. The gameplay of GTA3 would never of happened without the graphical update made possible by the PS2.
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#50 lukefartedagain
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Gameplay, I would want to play a amazing game, not look at amazing graphics. In other words why buy a game that you are only going to stare at?1up7
Because what do you do when you play a game? You stare at the screen. Why would you want to stare at something that is not aestheically pleasing to the eye? I agree that the game should be fun to play, but it should also be something good to look at.