Gamespot reviewer gives Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey a 6/10

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#1 webxeo
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I'm sorry.. now I have played a lot of video games.. mostly rpgs (sadly :/)Now I havn't played a lot of shin megami tensei games .. in fact devil survivor kinda bored me a little bit (looking forward to stepping back into it though..) either way though I'm sure many will agree Strange Journey is pretty damn epic and a damn fine game in itself that doesn't deserve anywhere near a 6/10.. from what i can see this has been one of the first and only reviews even under 8/10 by a "respected?" critic.

Someone had to be smoking something..

Or am I wrong.. Discuss

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#2 Darkedge34
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Opinions, bro.

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#3 Wolfetan
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No Western reviewer will ever get any Shin Megami Tensei game rated correctly.

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#4 king_of_metal
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I can't say I'm surprised, considering the score the Persona port received. I'm twenty-some hours in and loving it so far.Definitelyone of my favorite DS games.

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#5 kidcool189
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Opinions, bro.

Darkedge34
not just that it is also a pretty poorly written review with very little objectiveness, if any at all...something that is very much required somewhat in any professional review ...also more reasons how i felt it was bad in the other thread on the front page
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#6 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="Darkedge34"]

Opinions, bro.

kidcool189
not just that it is also a pretty poorly written review with very little objectiveness, if any at all...something that is very much required somewhat in any professional review ...also more reasons how i felt it was bad in the other thread on the front page

I'm not sure that having the game as your sig helps your case for objectivity...
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disgusted is a word id choise to describe this abomination of a review. he was clearly in rush and wanted to get back to pokemon..god this site sucks!!!
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#8 Sophia
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It's still a person's opinion though, and the person who reviewed it happens to be a big SMT fan (and also reviewed Devil Survivor) and didn't enjoy it as much as some other people might have. That doesn't mean his opinion is any less valid.

Personally, I've played Strange Journey and I still think Devil Survivor was much much better. I know the two can't really compare, but I wasn't exactly blown away by Strange Journey (story or gameplay.)

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#9 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="Darkedge34"]

Opinions, bro.

spazzx625
not just that it is also a pretty poorly written review with very little objectiveness, if any at all...something that is very much required somewhat in any professional review ...also more reasons how i felt it was bad in the other thread on the front page

I'm not sure that having the game as your sig helps your case for objectivity...

I'm also not a professional reviewer
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#11 SirSpudly
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"] not just that it is also a pretty poorly written review with very little objectiveness, if any at all...something that is very much required somewhat in any professional review ...also more reasons how i felt it was bad in the other thread on the front pagespazzx625
I'm not sure that having the game as your sig helps your case for objectivity...

I'm not sure having a blog space with the game the professional reviewer referenced 3 times counts as objectivity either.

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#12 calvinsora
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="kidcool189"] not just that it is also a pretty poorly written review with very little objectiveness, if any at all...something that is very much required somewhat in any professional review ...also more reasons how i felt it was bad in the other thread on the front pageSirSpudly

I'm not sure that having the game as your sig helps your case for objectivity...

I'm not sure having a blog space with the game the professional reviewer referenced 3 times counts as objectivity either.

It shows that Lark is a big fan of the Shin Megami Tensei series, so there's no reason for him to score the game low unless he actually thought it deserved the score.

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#13 kidcool189
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Yes, I am aware of the whole "its his opinion" debacle, but he is still being judged upon as a professional reviewer

but as ive said in other threads, he fails to mention numerous positive gameplay mechanics that really makes the game atleast worth playing to begin with and not just for dedicated fans of the series

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#14 BrunoBRS
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No Western reviewer will ever get any Shin Megami Tensei game rated correctly.

Wolfetan
if i remember correctly, gamespot loved persona 4 so much it even got RPG of the year
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#15 calvinsora
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Yes, I am aware of the whole "its his opinion" debacle, but he is still being judged upon as a professional reviewer

but as ive said in other threads, he fails to mention numerous positive gameplay mechanics that really makes the game atleast worth playing to begin with and not just for dedicated fans of the series

kidcool189

Those positive points are maybe not that positive to him. You judging him as a professional reviewer is simply based on your opinion of the game itself. You don't look at the matter as such that some things you may like about the game Lark doesn't like. That's part of the "it's his opinion" fact. He, as a professional reviewer, gave the game the score he felt it deserves.

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#16 calvinsora
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[QUOTE="Wolfetan"]

No Western reviewer will ever get any Shin Megami Tensei game rated correctly.

BrunoBRS

if i remember correctly, gamespot loved persona 4 so much it even got RPG of the year

I don't remember whether it won or not, but GS are bigger fans of JRPGs than most other Western critics I've seen, so I'm grateful for that. Lark is, for instance, a bit SMT fan.

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#17 webxeo
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Opinions, bro.

Darkedge34

Completely understand that it is an opinion.. all reviews are ..

BUT!

the thing that bugs me is that sadly a good portion of the gamers in the US unfortunately look to gamespot for a professional review before they go out and buy a game without even taking a second glance at others.. Maybe none of you I'm sure cuz we all know gamespot can be a little harsh sometimes.. but its kinda sad to know that a good chunk of people (mostly tards none the less) will choose to pass this great game over based on that review

Literally in like 3 different forums i counted a good 40-50 people who stupidly stated " Im waiting for the gamespot review to try/buy" ...

LAME

Their loss but still.. Everyone should get a chance at this game :)

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#18 SirSpudly
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[QUOTE="SirSpudly"]

I'm not sure having a blog space with the game the professional reviewer referenced 3 times counts as objectivity either.

calvinsora

It shows that Lark is a big fan of the Shin Megami Tensei series, so there's no reason for him to score the game low unless he actually thought it deserved the score.

It shows him as a big fan of Persona 4.

One game does not represent an entire series, ever.

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#19 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="SirSpudly"]

I'm not sure having a blog space with the game the professional reviewer referenced 3 times counts as objectivity either.

SirSpudly

It shows that Lark is a big fan of the Shin Megami Tensei series, so there's no reason for him to score the game low unless he actually thought it deserved the score.

It shows him as a big fan of Persona 4.

One game does not represent an entire series, ever.

not to mention all persona 4/devil survivor/strange journey are quite different style of rpg's, and there really shouldnt of been as much emphasis comparing SJ to those 2 games, rather than to something like the etrian odyssey's
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#20 larkanderson
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It shows him as a big fan of Persona 4.

One game does not represent an entire series, ever.

SirSpudly
It might also just show that I haven't updated my profile in like, a year. Also, you'll note that I didn't compare it to Persona 4 or Devil Survivor--I just said it's not those games for people who might look at it and go "Oh hey, another Shin Megami Tensei. I loved Devil Survivor and this must be the same thing!"
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#21 Regent192
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[QUOTE="SirSpudly"]

It shows him as a big fan of Persona 4.

One game does not represent an entire series, ever.

LarkAnderson

It might also just show that I haven't updated my profile in like, a year. Also, you'll note that I didn't compare it to Persona 4 or Devil Survivor--I just said it's not those games for people who might look at it and go "Oh hey, another Shin Megami Tensei. I loved Devil Survivor and this must be the same thing!"

so your talking about a ps2 game in the review?

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#22 calvinsora
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[QUOTE="SirSpudly"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

It shows that Lark is a big fan of the Shin Megami Tensei series, so there's no reason for him to score the game low unless he actually thought it deserved the score.

kidcool189

It shows him as a big fan of Persona 4.

One game does not represent an entire series, ever.

not to mention all persona 4/devil survivor/strange journey are quite different style of rpg's, and there really shouldnt of been as much emphasis comparing SJ to those 2 games, rather than to something like the etrian odyssey's

True, but the point I was trying to get across was that the only way the score wouldn't be his general opinion is: a) if he's against the genre (no) b) if he's against the series (no again) or c) if he's against the system (Devil's Survivor got a 9.0, so no once more). From all of these points, you can see that this really is his opinion of how the game holds up to other games in the genre.

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#23 CyberKlown28
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Great game. Very bad review that condemned things that aren't bad, or aren't even true. I personally think Strange Journey blows Devil Survivor out of the ballpark. And makes Etrian Odyssey obsolete.
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#24 Darkedge34
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ANOTHER THING - When did 6.0 start meaning a game was complete **** last time i checked it meant a game was alright?

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#25 CyberKlown28
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ANOTHER THING - When did 6.0 start meaning a game was complete **** last time i checked it meant a game was alright?

Darkedge34
Well its easily a 9 or 10 so this is definitely a problematic review.
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ANOTHER THING - When did 6.0 start meaning a game was complete **** ?Darkedge34
Since always.
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ANOTHER THING - When did 6.0 start meaning a game was complete **** last time i checked it meant a game was alright?

Darkedge34
from spendings years on video game forums in america anything under a 8 isn't worth playing in most peoples eyes. i am not found of the whole first person aspect i didn't like it back in days of wizardary and i don't like it now this game doesn't look to bad
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#28 SimoSays2541
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Guys, it's a review, also known as an OPINION. Most of us already have the game and are throughly enjoying it, so why should it bother you that one person doesn't hold the same OPINION as you on a particular game. It's not like him scoring the game under your expected score magically makes the game you've been enjoying for hours upon hours unplayable, does it?

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#29 leafs_ducks
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i'm 20hrs in to the game and i'm loving it!

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#30 CyberKlown28
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and at people saying the review is just an opinion.... Bigger sites like gamespot/ign,etc. should have unbiased reviews, meaning no opinions, just facts. and they usually do.