god I hate these Uber serious Mario Kart and Brawl players

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Theguy56"]

You say Brawl is nothing but a button masher because anyone can win.

So a game being cheap but doesn't involve pressing a lot of buttons is perfect.

Theguy56

No, that's not what button masher means

MASHING BUTTONS lol

As in "In Smash Bros you can mash the buttons over and over and have a very good chance at winning"

Further proof is that in these professional (giggle, so silly) tournaments Metaknight is banned because you can mash the controller with one of his attacks and Spam yourself to a win.

It is not technical, it's the opposite of technical

Yes you have a point there. I've played against lots of Metaknights who spam.

I'm against competetive play...I never play without items and rarely choose final destination.

Anytime I visit a competetive smash forum it makes me sick. I play Brawl just like Kart as in I don't change the rules.

All i'm saying is that, yes, you can mash buttons and win but it doesn't mean the game is not fun. You can strip it of any fun if you don't play how the game is supposed to be played. Otherwise, it's like playing Kart with no items. Yes it maybe sometimes frustrating but it's boring as well.

To Jasonguy: Yes, Brawl is technical. very technical actually. If you actually watched a professional or even skilled match, you could see the technical aspect of the game. Also, professionals do exist, whether you choose to believe it or not.

[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No, that's not what button masher means

MASHING BUTTONS lol

As in "In Smash Bros you can mash the buttons over and over and have a very good chance at winning"

Further proof is that in these professional (giggle, so silly) tournaments Metaknight is banned because you can mash the controller with one of his attacks and Spam yourself to a win.

It is not technical, it's the opposite of technical

andrewham7

Yes you have a point there. I've played against lots of Metaknights who spam.

I'm against competetive play...I never play without items and rarely choose final destination.

Anytime I visit a competetive smash forum it makes me sick. I play Brawl just like Kart as in I don't change the rules.

All i'm saying is that, yes, you can mash buttons and win but it doesn't mean the game is not fun. You can strip it of any fun if you don't play how the game is supposed to be played. Otherwise, it's like playing Kart with no items. Yes it maybe sometimes frustrating but it's boring as well.

To Jasonguy: Yes, Brawl is technical. very technical actually. If you actually watched a professional or even skilled match, you could see the technical aspect of the game. Also, professionals do exist, whether you choose to believe it or not.

First off the real point I was trying to make was that not all games are button mashers... second I dont agree with you, you will not win if you play Mario Kart, MLB Power Pros, Exicte Truck, Boom Blox, Guitar Hero, Rock Band, and so on, if all you do is randomly press buttons but you could win if you do this is SSBB. Granted this is unlikely if you are playing against someone who knows how to play really well but you have much more of a chance at a random win than you do with any of the other games I listed.ag1052

As in "In Smash Bros you can mash the buttons over and over and have a very good chance at winning"

Jaysonguy

Rediculous drifting mini turbos? lol That's a simple basic technique.LINKloco

That was dumbed down from Mario Kart DS and Mario Kart Double Dash.... now there is little skill involved when it comes to drifting....

[QUOTE="toadster101"]I love the whiners that say Mario Kart Wii is luck based as a scapegoat for having poor racing lines, bad item management and mediocre predictability. Sure a Blue Shell could screw you over, but eliminating it would make the meta game even more broken and one sided than it already is. I bet you all love it when somebody else gets hit by a Blue Shell, yet when you're hit, it's "lulz dis gmae is luck based". The Flame Runner would literally be god-like without items. If you people are as truly good as you say you are, verse me in a 1 vs 1 right now, with no items, and lets see you win. Luck plays a factor, I must admit, but there are players who are clearly superior than other players in every way, and people can't seem to get over that. Go watch some World Records and you'll see what I mean. Theguy56

Luigi Circuit? If you know how to sandbag, coming in first on Luigi Circuit is easy. So what if you get hit by a Red Shell? It's easy to catch up unless you're crap at the game. I've been hit by five Blue Shells in rooms of 9000+ VR players, and have still come in first. If your lines were really that great, you would be able to avoid Red Shells easily. Empty tracks with no racers? So? Time Trials show how well a person can drive. Stop whining and get better.

Out of curiosity, what's your VR?

[QUOTE="Valorbrett"]honestly anyone ever just want ot ENJOY a game of Bralw and Mario Kart? and the srious people ruin it? For instance we have those really serious Brawl players that pick NOTHING but Final Destination and no items and the Mario Kart Players that do those ridicolous drifts with the Mini turbos and they pick nothing but Rainbow Road. Honestly I hate it when I decide to sit back in a game of brawl, do some taunt spamming, and then these Uber serious Marth, Sonic, Lucario, fox and some other furries start attacking me like "PLAY THE F-ING GAME YOU USELESS PIECE OF SCUM!" honestly I hate those kind of people I'm just trying to enjoy my game not be ticked at it because you play a cheap character or Drift at impossible angles and knock me off the course in the mean time. I hope you read this if you're one of those people. cause frankly you're a party pooper. Anyone else agree? Master_Hermes

I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion but I do kinda agree with you. If you're playing someone less skilled than you or someone who's not as serious about the game as you, then you need to tone yourself down. I don't mean tone down your skill but your attitude. Don't yell and scream at them for not being as good as you and concede things like character and stage selection (the random button is there for a reason). People are entitled to play their game anyway they want, but when it comes to multiplayer you should take into consideration what everyone wants, strangling someone else's fun is a sure way to end up playing games alone.

Also, Don't taunt spam...

Yeah, I agree with this one.

I don't play Brawl, but I play Kart a lot. If I end up in a room with people that are obviously less experienced/skilled than I am, I'll go a little bit easier. I'll keep a good lead, but I won't litter the track with items. And I won't employ cheap tactics like bananas on the edge of ramps.

And while it's good for them, it's good for me, too. The happier I keep them, the longer they'll stay in the room. And as long as I keep winning and adding to my rating, I'm fine with that.

And I agree about Rainbow Road. it gets picked far too often. I'm really good at it, but only because I play it once every four races. I prefer the Mario Circuits, really.

. The games aren't called Super Patty Cake Bros Tickle Fight or Mario Kart: Let's Take A Sunday Driveeverlong12

ahahhaa, that's amazing. first genuine laugh i've had on gamespot all day. good stuff!

and the Mario Kart Players that do those ridicolous drifts with the Mini turbosValorbrett

[QUOTE="everlong12"]. The games aren't called Super Patty Cake Bros Tickle Fight or Mario Kart: Let's Take A Sunday Drive-starman-

ahahhaa, that's amazing. first genuine laugh i've had on gamespot all day. good stuff!

I agree with you that online gaming is too uneven. That's why I never go online anymore.so_hai

there are some nights that will leave me grinding my teeth, like in close races where a blue shell hits 10 seconds from the finish line, taking you from 1st to 7th, but now that I'm competitive most of the time it's often more fun now than ever before.

without online, i'd be done with MK by now. but with it it's one of the most enduring titles I own.

I love the people who say they're "professional" Smash Bros players

Oh great, someone learned to slap the controls in a button masher, your parents must be so proud of you

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No, that's not what button masher means

MASHING BUTTONS lol

As in "In Smash Bros you can mash the buttons over and over and have a very good chance at winning"

Further proof is that in these professional (giggle, so silly) tournaments Metaknight is banned because you can mash the controller with one of his attacks and Spam yourself to a win.

It is not technical, it's the opposite of technical

andrewham7

Yes you have a point there. I've played against lots of Metaknights who spam.

I'm against competetive play...I never play without items and rarely choose final destination.

Anytime I visit a competetive smash forum it makes me sick. I play Brawl just like Kart as in I don't change the rules.

All i'm saying is that, yes, you can mash buttons and win but it doesn't mean the game is not fun. You can strip it of any fun if you don't play how the game is supposed to be played. Otherwise, it's like playing Kart with no items. Yes it maybe sometimes frustrating but it's boring as well.

To Jasonguy: Yes, Brawl is technical. very technical actually. If you actually watched a professional or even skilled match, you could see the technical aspect of the game. Also, professionals do exist, whether you choose to believe it or not.

i think a "professional" just got offended lol

the game is a great game and does t ake some skill but the way these "professionals" make it out to be is that you have to be super elite and cant use items and what not, the game is meant for fun and interesting which items and non final destination maps do

the game is meant for fun and interesting which items and non final destination maps do black_ice23

[QUOTE="black_ice23"]the game is meant for fun and interesting which items and non final destination maps do ZumaJones07

I'm a competitive smasher and I really appreciate your comment :)

Seriously, it's like sports. Some people play them to have fun, while some others practice them daily, go to tournaments in serious teams, and love the game at the same time. Many games can be taken to a competitive level and smash bros is not an exception.

I love the people who say they're "professional" Smash Bros players

Oh great, someone learned to slap the controls in a button masher, your parents must be so proud of you

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]Welcome to online gaming TC, where did you leave your passifier? some people are better than you, and if you want to taunt spam and not play the damn game than play offlinegamefan67

I love the people who say they're "professional" Smash Bros players

Oh great, someone learned to slap the controls in a button masher, your parents must be so proud of you

Jaysonguy

smash bros. is the farthest fighter I know from being a button masher. This is due to it having very few and destinct moves. If you just mash the buttons your character will be doing nothing of any value. In a game like Soul Calibur, people can win by just mashing the buttons because there are 100s of moves per character (nothing against Soul Calibur or anything). You are bound to do something good. You obviously haven't played Smash to its fullest potential.

You obviously haven't played Smash to its fullest potential.Pikminmaniac

smash bros. is the farthest fighter I know from being a button masher. This is due to it having very few and destinct moves. If you just mash the buttons your character will be doing nothing of any value. In a game like Soul Calibur, people can win by just mashing the buttons because there are 100s of moves per character (nothing against Soul Calibur or anything). You are bound to do something good. You obviously haven't played Smash to its fullest potential.

Pikminmaniac

Here's a piece of advice for you: Jaysonguy is immune to logic and/or common sense.

[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="toadster101"]I love the whiners that say Mario Kart Wii is luck based as a scapegoat for having poor racing lines, bad item management and mediocre predictability. Sure a Blue Shell could screw you over, but eliminating it would make the meta game even more broken and one sided than it already is. I bet you all love it when somebody else gets hit by a Blue Shell, yet when you're hit, it's "lulz dis gmae is luck based". The Flame Runner would literally be god-like without items. If you people are as truly good as you say you are, verse me in a 1 vs 1 right now, with no items, and lets see you win. Luck plays a factor, I must admit, but there are players who are clearly superior than other players in every way, and people can't seem to get over that. Go watch some World Records and you'll see what I mean. toadster101

Luigi Circuit? If you know how to sandbag, coming in first on Luigi Circuit is easy. So what if you get hit by a Red Shell? It's easy to catch up unless you're crap at the game. I've been hit by five Blue Shells in rooms of 9000+ VR players, and have still come in first. If your lines were really that great, you would be able to avoid Red Shells easily. Empty tracks with no racers? So? Time Trials show how well a person can drive. Stop whining and get better.

Out of curiosity, what's your VR?

9999VR and 3 stars...

I'm saying it isn't fun watching your VR going down just because you came in second or had really bad luck. For example, on Mushroom Gorge you get shocked and fall down at the last lap. You spawn and get hit by a red shell etc etc

I agree with you that online gaming is too uneven. That's why I never go online anymore.so_hai

Button mashing (a.k.a. button bashing) is a term used in console gaming contexts to refer to quick, repeated, and generally random button pressings. It is a technique most commonly employed in two genres of games, athletic, where faster button mashing translates into better athlete performance, and in fighting games, where the technique is used often out of desperation, due to unfamiliarity with the controls and/or players relying on barraging the opponent with random blows (and the occasional accidental special move) to win, or just because the "masher" either likes the reaction he/she gets while mashing, or because they want a better chance of winning. Takahashi Meijin is considered to be the fastest button masher in the world, with a record of 16 presses of a button in one second.Wikipedia

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love the people who say they're "professional" Smash Bros players

Oh great, someone learned to slap the controls in a button masher, your parents must be so proud of you

Thiago26792

I'm sorry you have a problem with the truth

Smash Bros is a button masher. A competitive Smash Bros player carries as much weight as a competitive pillow fighter.

Well for me, I too hate the "serious" players who think they are in some kind of tournament for real $$$. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to play the way they want, I'm just saying it really IS annoying to play the same stage OVER and OVER. It's not about being beaten, and I'm assuming that's what the OP meant when this thread was started. It's not that he's getting beaten, it's the attitude that just hurts the overall experience for a lot of players.

Personally, I can't stand playing the people who always run from you, trying to keep that magic distance in between the fighters, coz I thought the point of the game was to actually fight and not run away. But like I said, people can play however they want. What I wish is that Nintendo had implemented a "I WANNA WIN!!!" and a "I WANNA LAUGH!!!" mode in online-Brawl, to guide people to the game where they'd have the most fun...or at least some sort of ranking system. But I'm sure people would just abuse these too to a certain degree.

I strongly disagree though that the main point of games is to WIN. I personally like to laugh when I play online games. That's what makes LAN games so much better than online against strangers for me. FYI: If you wanna see some seriously annoying "serious" players, just play Halo3 on XBOX LIVE for about 5 minutes. Win or lose, you get cursed at, screamed at, laughed at, called racial epithets, t-bagged, betrayed, and a host of other complaints. To me, that's the polar opposite of "fun".

So my point is, serious people should be able to play the way they want, but players who wanna have fun playing should be able to do that as well, without stepping on each others toes.

[QUOTE="Thiago26792"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love the people who say they're "professional" Smash Bros players

Oh great, someone learned to slap the controls in a button masher, your parents must be so proud of you

Jaysonguy

I'm sorry you have a problem with the truth

Smash Bros is a button masher. A competitive Smash Bros player carries as much weight as a competitive pillow fighter.

Actually, most people say that smash bros is one of the most technical games ever created and innovating in the sense that they made a genre by their own. The smash community is one of the biggest gaming communities out there and I guess it is due to something.

[QUOTE="ag1052"]if you play SSBB and just randomly smash all the buttons you can, then you have a chance of winningZumaJones07

I agree with the topic creator, though, that playing too many matches with no items on Final Destination sucks. But that's just my preference, and I can understand how people can only have fun when their skill isn't diminished by random stuff generated by the stages and items. But like I said, I hate traditional fighting games, and the items and stages add a level of fun that I appreciate.

Same goes for Mario Kart, really. There should be an online mode (with random people) for races with no items. I probably would never play that way, but I know a lot of people would appreciate that kind of race. As it is, you can only play without items when you create a friend match.

Looks like all sports games are button mashers then. :(ZumaJones07

Name some other sports games that can be won by mashing the buttons

Same goes for Mario Kart, really. There should be an online mode (with random people) for races with no items. I probably would never play that way, but I know a lot of people would appreciate that kind of race. As it is, you can only play without items when you create a friend match.

JordanElek

Of course, if they did that then the entire room would have nothing buy Daisy on the Dolphin Bike and Bowser in the Flame Flyer.

I love the insanity that is combat racing, and the items are really the heart of the gameplay. Besides, where else can I win a race driving as Baby Mario in a Baby Carriage?

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]Looks like all sports games are button mashers then. :(Jaysonguy

Name some other sports games that can be won by mashing the buttons

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]Looks like all sports games are button mashers then. :(ZumaJones07

Name some other sports games that can be won by mashing the buttons

Not at all

None of the sports you mentioned have a chance of wining by mindlessly mashing buttons

In soccer constantly kicking the ball wot even get it near the goal, in basketball all you'd be doing is throwing half court or fulll court shots. Boxing would be better but still no cigar.

That mashing would also fail you if you tried to play football or baseball that way too.

None of the sports you mentioned have a chance of wining by mindlessly mashing buttonsJaysonguy

[QUOTE="Thiago26792"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love the people who say they're "professional" Smash Bros players

Oh great, someone learned to slap the controls in a button masher, your parents must be so proud of you

Jaysonguy

I'm sorry you have a problem with the truth

Smash Bros is a button masher. A competitive Smash Bros player carries as much weight as a competitive pillow fighter.