Guitar Hero 4 -- Right direction for the series or wrong direction?

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#1 haziqonfire
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What do you think about Guitar Hero 4 heading in the same direction as Rock Band, by adding Drums and Vocals?

Do you think this benefits the series, or only hurts it?

Personally, i think it's cool to have but then it takes away from the name 'Guitar Hero' if you add everything into the package.

however, i think its great they are adding the song editor as well.

What about you guys? Is this a good direction to take with the Guitar Hero Brand, or the wrong direction?
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#2 JAB991
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It benefits the series immensely. Why the masses were drawn to Guitar Hero was the guitar controller, and now that they aren't the forefront in the music controller business, it seems more than logical to catch up. The Guitar Hero name is still more popular than the Rock Band name, and with the new instruments, Rock Band will be even further in second place in sales.
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#3 Jaysonguy
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Wrong decision times about a million

They screwed up their brand name.

When you want a music game you think Guitar Hero, Rock Band is their own niche.

The song editor is great but that and the Guitar is where it should have stopped.

It's decisions like this that should make all Nintendo fans happy and proud we support a company that does not screw up their brand names like this.

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#4 Astrosmash
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they should sell the game with the guitar only

and.. you can buy the drums and mic seperatly!!! if you want an extra for the game..because I still think the serie must stay with the GUITAR theme..but.. adding a drums , bass and vocal for extra will be very nice!

But I buy this over rock band anytime!!!

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#5 ImSwordMan
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I think Activision is milking this series faster than they did the Tony Hawk series, which is a bad thing, I'm not getting GH IV thats for sure, rather get Rock Band.
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#6 Jaysonguy
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they should sell the game with the guitar only

and.. you can buy the drums and mic seperatly!!! if you want an extra for the game..because I still think the serie must stay with the GUITAR theme..but.. adding a drums , bass and vocal for extra will be very nice!

But I buy this over rock band anytime!!!

Astrosmash

Wha? Huh?

If the game covers all instruments why do you want them to sell only the guitar so they can charge more money for the rest of the pieces needed for the game?

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#7 haziqonfire
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Wrong decision times about a million

They screwed up their brand name.

When you want a music game you think Guitar Hero, Rock Band is their own niche.

The song editor is great but that and the Guitar is where it should have stopped.

It's decisions like this that should make all Nintendo fans happy and proud we support a company that does not screw up their brand names like this.

Jaysonguy

i more or less agree with you. The game is called Guitar Hero. They should have just stuck with Guitar, made a better track list and kept the editor.
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#8 Zombie_Eric
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I agree that the song creator/editor thing is a cool idea, but that the inclusion of new instruments is a mistake.

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#9 Dark_Knight6
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Considering it's called "Guitar" Hero, I think adding drums and vocals is a horrible idea. Not only that but it's a straight rip from Harmonix with Rock Band, who also made the Guitar Hero series what it is.
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#10 fitootif
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they are only adding drums, not vocals (at least IGN said that) and the Bass has been there since long time ago (or at least since 3).
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#11 icarus212001
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its an obvious attempt to counter Rock Band thats going to end in tragedy. really, they should just stick to a guitar-only approach. apparently, activision didn't get the memo that people bought Guitar Hero over Rock Band for a reason. they should just stick to guitar-only for the main reason that the one place where Guitar Hero excels leaps and bounds over Rock Band is in the kickin' solos. but no, Activision has only two things in mind: money, and EA dead.

oh, and by the way, the song editor only lets you edit songs already inside the game.

its a shame, because if i could input my own music *thinks of Led Zeppelin* that would have been an instant buy for me.

oh wells... *waits until june 22*

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#12 icarus212001
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they are only adding drums, not vocals (at least IGN said that) and the Bass has been there since long time ago (or at least since 3).
fitootif

they are adding mic as well. its only in the song editor mode that you cant use the mic

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#13 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Wrong decision times about a million

They screwed up their brand name.

When you want a music game you think Guitar Hero, Rock Band is their own niche.

The song editor is great but that and the Guitar is where it should have stopped.

It's decisions like this that should make all Nintendo fans happy and proud we support a company that does not screw up their brand names like this.

Haziqonfire


i more or less agree with you. The game is called Guitar Hero. They should have just stuck with Guitar, made a better track list and kept the editor.

I agree.

Companies try for decades to get just one game that's a brand name in the industry. A game that when you refer to that game you refer to the genre.

Guitar Hero HAD that until this latest release.

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#14 Jesteroflies
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Horrid idea, takes away from what gh really is. ITS NOT ROCKBAND. lol...i dont play it but my brother does and he feels the same way. very horrid idea.
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#15 JAB991
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If people have such an objection to the multiple instruments, why not play just as a guitarist? And for people who complain because it's called "Guitar Hero," do you only as as Mario in "Mario Kart?"
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#16 ahahaG
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i agree with all of you in here. Guitar Hero is the name of the game, so why add in other instruments. Why didn't they call the game, "We're trying to compete with Rock Band" instead? I knew Activision would lead the guitar hero franchise down the drain, and it is now beginning.
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#17 Metamorbis
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Here is yet another example of corporate juggernauts not caring about the consumer and focusing only on what is important to them: the bottom line. Rock Band added something new to the music genre and Guitar Hero refuses to be outdone.

I personally think this is a horrible idea. The guitar is what made Guitar Hero great in the first place (I doubt as many people would have played a game called 'Drum Hero'). If the song editor is what it says it is going to be then I will still be happy with the game, but I do not like having to pay over $100 for a single video game.

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#18 musicman748
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idk what will happen they probably just want to beat rockband

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#19 icarus212001
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idk what will happen they probably just want to beat rockband

musicman748

and fail

Harmonix puts their soul into creating something unique, as well and put much care into the personality of their games with one of the most important aspects of any music game: The Soundtrack. seriously, listen to "Green Grass and High Tides" byt The Outlaws and then "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" (the GH3 version) and tell me which is the better end song. i think its pretty obvious

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#20 Ivix
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If people have such an objection to the multiple instruments, why not play just as a guitarist? And for people who complain because it's called "Guitar Hero," do you only as as Mario in "Mario Kart?"JAB991

The problem is that I imagine the guitar parts will suffer as a result. In Rock Band, the guitar parts are much easier and (in my opinion) less fun (by far) than those in Guitar Hero.

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#21 haziqonfire
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If people have such an objection to the multiple instruments, why not play just as a guitarist? And for people who complain because it's called "Guitar Hero," do you only as as Mario in "Mario Kart?"JAB991

Thats totally different, because the sole purpose of mario kart is racing in karts. However, one could argue that Bikes were a huge mistake to add in the game because its called 'mario kart'.

Anyway, it is called "GUITAR HERO" not "BAND HEROES"
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#22 Jaysonguy
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If people have such an objection to the multiple instruments, why not play just as a guitarist? And for people who complain because it's called "Guitar Hero," do you only as as Mario in "Mario Kart?"JAB991

Mario Kart is called Mario Kart because it's the Mario Universe.

What Guitar Hero is doing is like Nintendo taking Mario Kart, adding a driving range and batting cages as core components of the game, and calling it Mario Kart.

Nintendo doesn't do that because Nintendo knows how not to destroy it's brands.

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#23 Waffle_Fish
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Wrong, its "guitar hero" not "Guitar amd Drum Hero"
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#24 kittykatz5k
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Guitar hero's driving down the road when rock band drives down the road too. Rock Band gets attention and Guitar Hero wants to ram them off the road. I bet they'll make their instuments compeltely incompatable jsut out of rage.
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#25 Kenny789
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Wrong direction. IMO Guitar Hero should stay Guitar Hero because the game focused more on the guitar and you could have fun playing by yourself. Another thing is, it's cheaper. If I wanted a rhythm game with 4 players I would get Rock Band instead. Now people are going to have to choose sides, Guitar Hero or Rock Band? Because I don't see cross compatibility for the peripherals anytime soon
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#26 baseballboy6411
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Awful mistake.
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#27 Baldwinc47
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I mean if they could still center in on the Guitar, then it would be a great direction!
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#28 haziqonfire
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I mean if they could still center in on the Guitar, then it would be a great direction!Baldwinc47

It wont be, its more or less a copy of Rock Band now.
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#29 Wet_Sand
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I mean if they could still center in on the Guitar, then it would be a great direction!Baldwinc47
It's all about responding to competition. How can Guitar Hero compete when Rock Band has multiple instruments. If Guitar Hero can do it better, all the power to them. If they can't, then GH could be finished. I'll still be getting it though.
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#30 AddictedToMe
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Here is yet another example of corporate juggernauts not caring about the consumer and focusing only on what is important to them: the bottom line. Rock Band added something new to the music genre and Guitar Hero refuses to be outdone.

I personally think this is a horrible idea. The guitar is what made Guitar Hero great in the first place (I doubt as many people would have played a game called 'Drum Hero'). If the song editor is what it says it is going to be then I will still be happy with the game, but I do not like having to pay over $100 for a single video game.

Metamorbis

Dude, how is this them not caring about what people want? They're ADDING stuff to the game. It's supplementing the main focus, which is the guitar. It isn't changing the gameplay for the guitar, it's just giving you MORE to do. Yes it is a way to fight Rock Band, but all they're doing is what is best for their company.

You guys who are whining about them adding stuff are just stupid. There is no way that you'll ever be satisfied with anything.

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#31 AddictedToMe
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[QUOTE="Baldwinc47"]I mean if they could still center in on the Guitar, then it would be a great direction!Haziqonfire

It wont be, its more or less a copy of Rock Band now.

If you play Rock Band right now, you'll see that the guitar is nowhere near as hard as Guitar Hero's. The songs in Guitar Hero will still have harder solos and faster shredding than Rock Band. That has and always will be their main focus.

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#32 bob_newman
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Wrong decision times about a million

They screwed up their brand name.

When you want a music game you think Guitar Hero, Rock Band is their own niche.

The song editor is great but that and the Guitar is where it should have stopped.

It's decisions like this that should make all Nintendo fans happy and proud we support a company that does not screw up their brand names like this.

Jaysonguy

If you think that Guitar Hero won't sell now because they have other instruments as well, you're ignorant. Sorry, Jay. You know I love you, but that's rediculous.

If anything, it will just push Rock Band into oblivion. Guitar Hero is too recognizable of a brand name to get rid of, so why would they create a new "Band Hero" or whatever, when they can just keep the name?

Every single reviewer agreed, Rock Band raised the bar. Guitar Hero now needed to step up, and Activision did what they had to do.

Guitar Hero feels...almost obsolete to many people now, because why buy this game with just a guitar when you could buy a game with a guitar, drums, and vocals?

Personally, I'd never buy a Guitar Hero game if it only had guitars. Why? Well, other than the fact that you only get one instrument, how are you going to play with 4 friends? 4 guitars? No thank you.

I have a friend who owns both Rock Band and Guitar Hero. Can you guess which game people want to play when he has parties at his house?

Besides, I'm sure the Guitar part of Guitar Hero will still be as difficult and deep as it always has been, but now they have optional backup.

It also appeals to a larger audience. Not everyone wants to play guitar. Some people prefer drums, and some people can't even play a pretend instrument, so they prefer to sing. There are 2 more demographics right there that expand the audience, which equals more sales.

And also, realistically, even the greatest guitarists in real life have bands behind them.

So don't be selfish. Share the stage.

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#33 umcommon
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WRONG! Rock Band IMO is a horrible game compared to GH. The strummer on the RB guitar blows, the drums are lame, the mic is lame, and the note arangement is not nearly as engaging as Guitar Heroe's.
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#34 Lord_Omikron666
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I don't like that "Guitar" Hero is trying to beat Rock Band, I don't think we need this when Rock Band is coming to the Wii already. I like playing Guitar Hero to play just the guitar, that's all, and if I want the vocals and drums being played, I'll play Rock Band.
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#35 lild1425
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They've should have kept it just with the guitar. Now there are going to be focusing on other things like drums and not on the quality of guitar. I don't know if anyone noticed but the Rock Band guitar in songs absolutely sucks compared to Guitar Hero's.
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#36 Felmo_07
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I think its the right direction because GH could loose out to rockband wii, but considering that rockband wii will have no DLC or any thing else added to the game people might be drawn to GH4 instead.
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#37 Sabin55
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Wow all this talk of the guitar parts being better in GH than RockBands. It a glorified game of Simon. It's colored items coming across a screen. It is not too difficult to add more notes to make the game harder.

Adding other "instruments" does not mean the guitar is now going to suck. Like I said it is all about how they set the colored notes to fly across the screen at you. I dont see how adding "instruments" to the game is upsetting people. If the drums bother you don't play them. It is still the exact same game but now with more added. I don't see how this is a mistake on Activisions part. Just because vocals and drums are added does not mean the "quality" of the notes coming at you will be less.

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#38 Flypapers
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I say that the inclusion of vocals and drums etc is a good idea, but that they should still concentrate on the guitar so its still guitar hero and not a rock band clone
the song editor sounds awesome :)

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#39 fmobliv06
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to be honest, it's the only direction that Guitar Hero 4 could have gone in. if the GH series continued to focus on guitar alone, it would always be several steps/features behind Rock Band. it's just a matter of GH trying to keep up. but it still looks like fun.