How hard is it to make a AAA FPS on the Wii? Seriously...

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#1 LastLaugh90
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Forget about pushing the system to the limits graphics-wise. Make it OK graphics with smooth controls and large enviorments. Come on if Halo could be done on the original Xbox, why not something similar to the Wii. It seems like blasphemy to suggest a game with large enviorments and vehicles should be done on the Wii, but Halo 2 did it great not to mention countless other shooters last gen. HVS has heart but we need skilled developers to Give us something Wii Specific and gameplay mechanics that would be impossible on other consoles....theres potential, someone please tap it. I feel like a great Third person shooter could happen too...

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#2 AdmiralWolverin
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HVS has heart but we need skilled developers to Give us something Wii Specific and gameplay mechanics that would be impossible on other consoles....theres potential, someone please tap it. I feel like a great Third person shooter could happen too...

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hmm well the conduit is only missing vehicles and i always hated vehicle sections in fps' there's also red steel 2 for your "impossible on other consoles" and the grinder popping their heads up soon of the 3, at least 1 of them should get AAA from most unbiassed sites (hint hint) and id be really surprised if conduit didnt get AAA from at least ign a 3rd person shooter is what we really need though more than anything
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#3 LastLaugh90
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[QUOTE="LastLaugh90"]

HVS has heart but we need skilled developers to Give us something Wii Specific and gameplay mechanics that would be impossible on other consoles....theres potential, someone please tap it. I feel like a great Third person shooter could happen too...

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hmm well the conduit is only missing vehicles and i always hated vehicle sections in fps' there's also red steel 2 for your "impossible on other consoles" and the grinder popping their heads up soon of the 3, at least 1 of them should get AAA from most unbiassed sites (hint hint) and id be really surprised if conduit didnt get AAA from at least ign a 3rd person shooter is what we really need though more than anything

Yes, a good cover based tactical 3rd person shooter would be great on Wii..That one game with that Blue shirtless guy (cant think of the name) is being ported but we need an original IP
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#4 blankshore
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I think The Conduit and Red Steel 2 are both AAA FPS. It's not hard to make a AAA FPS on Wii, the problem is developers aren't guarenteed lots of money if they put it on the Wii. There's not a huge FPS audience like there is on the PS3 and 360, so it's a bit risky. That's why everyone is saying we need to buy the Conduit. Because if we don't, it might scare other developers off.

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#5 LastLaugh90
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I think The Conduit and Red Steel 2 are both AAA FPS. It's not hard to make a AAA FPS on Wii, the problem is developers aren't guarenteed lots of money if they put it on the Wii. There's not a huge FPS audience like there is on the PS3 and 360, so it's a bit risky. That's why everyone is saying we need to buy the Conduit. Because if we don't, it might scare other developers off.

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So far what i've seen from Red Steel looks pretty fun but not really engaging. Like it doesn't matter how you swing your sword at characters..they get hurt. Swing it harder, they get more damage. The real promise is gonan be in the 1v1 sword fights which i hope are tough and fun
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I might venture into System wars territory, and if so, I completely apologize but I think it is important for the reasoning. Why even if the Wii gets a AAA FPS for the system it will look and feel second rate to the other FPS's currently on the market for other systems, as such it might be impossible to get a AAA FPS simply because no one that reviews games professionally will do it in a Wii vacuum, despite how much they say they 'are'.
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#7 kardine
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The Conduit is a start. I hope more devs step up to the plate. If The Conduit sells well, who knows we may see EA try to bring another FPS to Wii.

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#8 LastLaugh90
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The Conduit is a start. I hope more devs step up to the plate. If The Conduit sells well, who knows we may see EA try to bring another FPS to Wii.

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Yes I want EA to develop more. Just because they can for some reason bypass friend codes
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#9 N-One
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The Conduit is a start. I hope more devs step up to the plate. If The Conduit sells well, who knows we may see EA try to bring another FPS to Wii.

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That's why we need to buy The Conduit.

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#10 N-One
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[QUOTE="kardine"]

The Conduit is a start. I hope more devs step up to the plate. If The Conduit sells well, who knows we may see EA try to bring another FPS to Wii.

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Yes I want EA to develop more. Just because they can for some reason bypass friend codes

Good point. With EA's online engine, they can do online like it's nobody's business.

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the question mark over the wii on the big area front is its lack of a HDD. neither halo1 nor 2 would have been possible on the xbox1 if it didnt have a HDD. it was used extensively to quickly load in the level data. each level wasnt that big but it felt much bigger because loading was practically non existent (just a little pause). whether the wiis disc drive is sufficent to do the same thing is debateable at best (personal;y i think it cant....HDDs are just so much faster) as for the other stuff...the vehicles and such like.....time and money really. halo2 had the budget of a country for its development and had a team much much bigger than that of the conduits. the tech for halo was also developed over a very long period...long before MS bought bungie. HVS decided to focus on getting the controls spot on and getting the technology in order which i think was a good decision. had they decided to try and make a halo type FPS...i think they would have been spread too thin. they already have a game thats better looking than halo1 and at least gives halo2 a run for its money. not bad for a relatively small developer. if the conduit is a big success then who knows....maybe HVS can get more people on board and start building on what they have done in the conduit. a third person shooter would also be ace. i miss the wiimote when im playing games like gears and uncharted...it would be so nice to have in games like those.
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#12 LastLaugh90
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[QUOTE="osan0"]the question mark over the wii on the big area front is its lack of a HDD. neither halo1 nor 2 would have been possible on the xbox1 if it didnt have a HDD. it was used extensively to quickly load in the level data. each level wasnt that big but it felt much bigger because loading was practically non existent (just a little pause). whether the wiis disc drive is sufficent to do the same thing is debateable at best (personal;y i think it cant....HDDs are just so much faster) as for the other stuff...the vehicles and such like.....time and money really. halo2 had the budget of a country for its development and had a team much much bigger than that of the conduits. the tech for halo was also developed over a very long period...long before MS bought bungie. HVS decided to focus on getting the controls spot on and getting the technology in order which i think was a good decision. had they decided to try and make a halo type FPS...i think they would have been spread too thin. they already have a game thats better looking than halo1 and at least gives halo2 a run for its money. not bad for a relatively small developer. if the conduit is a big success then who knows....maybe HVS can get more people on board and start building on what they have done in the conduit. a third person shooter would also be ace. i miss the wiimote when im playing games like gears and uncharted...it would be so nice to have in games like those.

This pretty much answers my question. Good points..
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#13 AppleBlade
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I think Metroid Prime 3 is a AAA production and though some call it a First Person Adventure game, it really is just a shooter with an emphasis on exploration. The Trilogy comes this summer which will pack 3 great Metroid Prime games with great controls and beautiful graphics on one disc for $50 dollars!

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[QUOTE="kardine"]

The Conduit is a start. I hope more devs step up to the plate. If The Conduit sells well, who knows we may see EA try to bring another FPS to Wii.

N-One

That's why we need to buy The Conduit.

I know I'm buying The Conduit, it looks bomb and if it sells well EA and Activision might give us a proper FPS for a change instead of glitchy, unfinished attempts.
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[QUOTE="AdmiralWolverin"][QUOTE="LastLaugh90"]

HVS has heart but we need skilled developers to Give us something Wii Specific and gameplay mechanics that would be impossible on other consoles....theres potential, someone please tap it. I feel like a great Third person shooter could happen too...

hmm well the conduit is only missing vehicles and i always hated vehicle sections in fps' there's also red steel 2 for your "impossible on other consoles" and the grinder popping their heads up soon of the 3, at least 1 of them should get AAA from most unbiassed sites (hint hint) and id be really surprised if conduit didnt get AAA from at least ign a 3rd person shooter is what we really need though more than anything

I agree. Vehicles in FPSs only work well in open world games like Battlefield.
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I might venture into System wars territory, and if so, I completely apologize but I think it is important for the reasoning. Why even if the Wii gets a AAA FPS for the system it will look and feel second rate to the other FPS's currently on the market for other systems, as such it might be impossible to get a AAA FPS simply because no one that reviews games professionally will do it in a Wii vacuum, despite how much they say they 'are'.raahsnavj
Definitely system wars territory. FPSs that force you to play on dual analog are second rate to me, which is one reason I bought a Wii over a 360 or PS3.
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I think Metroid Prime 3 is a AAA production and though some call it a First Person Adventure game, it really is just a shooter with an emphasis on exploration. The Trilogy comes this summer which will pack 3 great Metroid Prime games with great controls and beautiful graphics on one disc for $50 dollars!

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lol sounds like an advertisement :P But ya I think the topic creator is talking about 3rd party FPS. ;)
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#18 AdmiralWolverin
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[QUOTE="AdmiralWolverin"][QUOTE="LastLaugh90"]

HVS has heart but we need skilled developers to Give us something Wii Specific and gameplay mechanics that would be impossible on other consoles....theres potential, someone please tap it. I feel like a great Third person shooter could happen too...

psychobrew
hmm well the conduit is only missing vehicles and i always hated vehicle sections in fps' there's also red steel 2 for your "impossible on other consoles" and the grinder popping their heads up soon of the 3, at least 1 of them should get AAA from most unbiassed sites (hint hint) and id be really surprised if conduit didnt get AAA from at least ign a 3rd person shooter is what we really need though more than anything

I agree. Vehicles in FPSs only work well in open world games like Battlefield.

aah, forgot about battlefield good game, good use of vehicles
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[QUOTE="LastLaugh90"]

HVS has heart but we need skilled developers to Give us something Wii Specific and gameplay mechanics that would be impossible on other consoles....theres potential, someone please tap it. I feel like a great Third person shooter could happen too...

AdmiralWolverin
hmm well the conduit is only missing vehicles and i always hated vehicle sections in fps' there's also red steel 2 for your "impossible on other consoles" and the grinder popping their heads up soon of the 3, at least 1 of them should get AAA from most unbiassed sites (hint hint) and id be really surprised if conduit didnt get AAA from at least ign a 3rd person shooter is what we really need though more than anything

in regards to vehicles. I don't like them in FPS in general ESPECIALLY in halo. How easy is it for some noob to grab a warthog or a banshee and just run over the universe. Very. It gets old very fast
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#20 OreoMilkshake
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Red Steel 2 and The Conduit won't be AAA.The Grinder might be with all of it's multiplayer features but that's long off.
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#21 AdmiralWolverin
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Red Steel 2 and The Conduit won't be AAA.The Grinder might be with all of it's multiplayer features but that's long off.OreoMilkshake
i reckon red steel should and conduit will on ign
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[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]I might venture into System wars territory, and if so, I completely apologize but I think it is important for the reasoning. Why even if the Wii gets a AAA FPS for the system it will look and feel second rate to the other FPS's currently on the market for other systems, as such it might be impossible to get a AAA FPS simply because no one that reviews games professionally will do it in a Wii vacuum, despite how much they say they 'are'.psychobrew
Definitely system wars territory. FPSs that force you to play on dual analog are second rate to me, which is one reason I bought a Wii over a 360 or PS3.

Well, to bring it back from system wars... the point isn't that the Wii can't have a great one, but rather how 'unbiased reviews' don't really exist. I personally think that the Wiimote is as close as you can get to a mouse. As such I'm amazed the Wii doesn't get picked for that control scheme alone... but alas, it's where you get the money that gets the games.
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#23 clicketyclick
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So I don't get it. Is this thread about The Conduit? If so, it should be in the Conduit sticky, shouldn't it? Or is it about comparing Wii games to Halo and other 360 games? If so, it should be in System Wars, shouldn't it? :|
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="raahsnavj"]I might venture into System wars territory, and if so, I completely apologize but I think it is important for the reasoning. Why even if the Wii gets a AAA FPS for the system it will look and feel second rate to the other FPS's currently on the market for other systems, as such it might be impossible to get a AAA FPS simply because no one that reviews games professionally will do it in a Wii vacuum, despite how much they say they 'are'.raahsnavj
Definitely system wars territory. FPSs that force you to play on dual analog are second rate to me, which is one reason I bought a Wii over a 360 or PS3.

Well, to bring it back from system wars... the point isn't that the Wii can't have a great one, but rather how 'unbiased reviews' don't really exist. I personally think that the Wiimote is as close as you can get to a mouse. As such I'm amazed the Wii doesn't get picked for that control scheme alone... but alas, it's where you get the money that gets the games.

Red Steel and both of the Call of Duty's broke a million.
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#25 raahsnavj
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So I don't get it. Is this thread about The Conduit? If so, it should be in the Conduit sticky, shouldn't it? Or is it about comparing Wii games to Halo and other 360 games? If so, it should be in System Wars, shouldn't it? :|clicketyclick
I think it was suppose to be about if the Wii could have a AAA FPS... or why hasn't any Wii FPS game received a AAA... at this point though I'm ashamed I even joined in... twice...
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[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] Definitely system wars territory. FPSs that force you to play on dual analog are second rate to me, which is one reason I bought a Wii over a 360 or PS3.OreoMilkshake
Well, to bring it back from system wars... the point isn't that the Wii can't have a great one, but rather how 'unbiased reviews' don't really exist. I personally think that the Wiimote is as close as you can get to a mouse. As such I'm amazed the Wii doesn't get picked for that control scheme alone... but alas, it's where you get the money that gets the games.

Red Steel and both of the Call of Duty's broke a million.

Well, I guess it depends how you define AAA - one such definition... I was always under the assumption it required a good review... guess I learned something.
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#27 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="raahsnavj"] Well, to bring it back from system wars... the point isn't that the Wii can't have a great one, but rather how 'unbiased reviews' don't really exist. I personally think that the Wiimote is as close as you can get to a mouse. As such I'm amazed the Wii doesn't get picked for that control scheme alone... but alas, it's where you get the money that gets the games.raahsnavj
Red Steel and both of the Call of Duty's broke a million.

Well, I guess it depends how you define AAA - one such definition... I was always under the assumption it required a good review... guess I learned something.

No I was just targeting what you said about "it's where you get money that gets the games" and it should be clear that they can.
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#28 Sepewrath
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Its a very simple answer, a big part of the current FPS market is graphics and online multiplayer. Obviously the Wii pales in comparison to things like Killzone 2 or Halo 3 and the Friend Code system often leads to no online support at all or the very least a hassle and of course none before The Conduit has featured voice chat. Therefore you can never expect to see 9's across the board on at least previous Wii FPS because even though it's said that games aren't weighed against each other, thats not true. Games like MoH, or WaW didn't have all "common" FPS features so they are not given a 9. My advice don't worry about ratings, as those games are good and thats all that matters.
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Forget about pushing the system to the limits graphics-wise. Make it OK graphics with smooth controls and large enviorments. Come on if Halo could be done on the original Xbox, why not something similar to the Wii. It seems like blasphemy to suggest a game with large enviorments and vehicles should be done on the Wii, but Halo 2 did it great not to mention countless other shooters last gen. HVS has heart but we need skilled developers to Give us something Wii Specific and gameplay mechanics that would be impossible on other consoles....theres potential, someone please tap it. I feel like a great Third person shooter could happen too...

LastLaugh90

i know im alone with this but metroid prime 3 corruption > halo in terms of awesomness, but you cant really compare them since metroid is more single player based while halo is multiplayer.

and il still wait and see how conduit will turn out

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#30 SSBFan12
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We have the Conduit coming up here pretty soon and also Red Steel 2 I think those are two AAA games.

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#31 ekalbtwin
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It all comes down to taste and it seems like most reviewers have to have stunning graphics as well as online to give a first person game above a 8.5. If it really all came down to simple 'fun' Metroid prime 3 and even games like Boom Blox would have been given a 9. When it comes down to it, waiting to buy a game that scores above an 8.5 on this site is pretty lame as there are all kinds of great games on all three systems that have been given a score as low as a 6.
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#32 ActicEdge
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It really boils down to whether or not there is a market to make a AAA production worth the deveolpers time. I personally say no, I don't think there is. I also think that stuff like the conduit which are medium budget and get advertising are the types of wii games that make sense. It won't need to sell massive to be profitable and it will get more people interested in the genre who have wiis. I'm hoping for about half a million total sales and 250000 in NA when all is sadi in done.

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#33 MadSavage22
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Yeah its all about money. Wii in the eyes of almost every publisher is a gambel weather or not its gonna be profitable or not to make that AAA title for the wii...now dont get me wrong I believe the Wii has MASSIVE unlocked potential but is that alone gonna sell developers on weather or not they can make money off that platform no its not. Mock my words but if The Conduit sells well I would expect to see MUCH more AAA TALENT maybe not games but AAA talent being put onto wii projects. Heck you never know developers might have a AAA wii project tucked away waiting for the right time to make it. Until Wii is a PROVEN platform were gonna be stuck with ports of good games and then the crap that is coving the software shelfs of gamestops around the USA.

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red steel 2
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#35 MadSavage22
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red steel 2rgame1

You sure thats an first person shooter and not an first person action game??

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#36 intro94
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It really boils down to whether or not there is a market to make a AAA production worth the deveolpers time. I personally say no, I don't think there is. I also think that stuff like the conduit which are medium budget and get advertising are the types of wii games that make sense. It won't need to sell massive to be profitable and it will get more people interested in the genre who have wiis. I'm hoping for about half a million total sales and 250000 in NA when all is sadi in done.

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i think you are grossly understimating the market. Do you really think The Conduit would be almost the worst selling FPS on the wii?thats almost wishful thinking.In a negative way.If a PSP port of a obscure franchise sold 600k, i really dont see how TC would fare less.And if it was a AAA game with 4 years in development, and a 20 million dollar budget, it would sell as much as killzone 2 did for ps3.Which is fair enough.The problem is that theres no precedent Actic, if there was a Nintendo fps with heavy budget ,recognizable brand(like Half life),advertisement and exclusivity with all the technology expenses ,it would easily sell 5 ot 6 millions,over time.TC Is a modest budget game and still will sell a million without much effort.Even low budget ports do that on the wii, testament of how popular is the genre on it when offered.

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#37 rgame1
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[QUOTE="rgame1"]red steel 2MadSavage22

You sure thats an first person shooter and not an first person action game??

like whatever man!!
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#38 BoloTheGreat
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Those who are saying red steel 2 and especially the god awful Conduit are deluded, i think it's almost impossible for the Conduit to get AAA from waht i have seen. The problem is that most Wii games lack ambition, compare Red Steel (The only real FPS exclusive to the Wii) to say something like STALKER, KZ2 or Halo3. Hell even something like HL2 seems beyond their graphical and aspirational horizons, There is just too much amazing FPS elsewhere and only 3 FPS games coming to the Wii in the forseeable future. I just think it's a bit much to ask of something wich is still essentially a point and click gamecube.
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#39 MadSavage22
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Those who are saying red steel 2 and especially the god awful Conduit are deluded, i think it's almost impossible for the Conduit to get AAA from waht i have seen. The problem is that most Wii games lack ambition, compare Red Steel (The only real FPS exclusive to the Wii) to say something like STALKER, KZ2 or Halo3. Hell even something like HL2 seems beyond their graphical and aspirational horizons, There is just too much amazing FPS elsewhere and only 3 FPS games coming to the Wii in the forseeable future. I just think it's a bit much to ask of something wich is still essentially a point and click gamecube. BoloTheGreat

Holy crap......say that again??

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#40 MadSavage22
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[QUOTE="MadSavage22"]

[QUOTE="rgame1"]red steel 2rgame1

You sure thats an first person shooter and not an first person action game??

like whatever man!!

Whow now calm down...from what I have seen so far the gun in RS2 isnt used much...its kinda like "LOOK we have 1:1 sword movement...oh and there is a gun to" LOL

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#41 Thiago26792
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Well, they are already trying to do that with The Conduit and Red Steel 2.

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#42 haziqonfire
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We will never see the likes of a Half Life/Halo type of FPS on the Wii. The only thing we'll see is generic/mish mashed rip off's or something like Red Steel.
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#43 just_nonplussed
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I think Metroid Prime 3 is a AAA production and though some call it a First Person Adventure game, it really is just a shooter with an emphasis on exploration. The Trilogy comes this summer which will pack 3 great Metroid Prime games with great controls and beautiful graphics on one disc for $50 dollars!

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yeah. that's practically 2 new FPS-adventure games for people who didn't play the gamecube metroids.

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#44 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="MadSavage22"]

[QUOTE="rgame1"][QUOTE="MadSavage22"]

You sure thats an first person shooter and not an first person action game??

like whatever man!!

Whow now calm down...from what I have seen so far the gun in RS2 isnt used much...its kinda like "LOOK we have 1:1 sword movement...oh and there is a gun to" LOL

I agree. After watching the RS2 walkthrough, my impression was the game is full of elements that were simply thrown together in hopes the end result would be something good. Hitting doors over and over again with your sword just to open it because the developers like hitting things is ridiculous and will get old quickly. Then you have the name. It makes no sense to call it Red Steele 2 when it has nothing to do with the origional. I definitely have some questions on how good it will be because some details are obviously not well thought out.
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#45 MadSavage22
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[QUOTE="MadSavage22"]

[QUOTE="rgame1"] like whatever man!!psychobrew

Whow now calm down...from what I have seen so far the gun in RS2 isnt used much...its kinda like "LOOK we have 1:1 sword movement...oh and there is a gun to" LOL

I agree. After watching the RS2 walkthrough, my impression was the game is full of elements that were simply thrown together in hopes the end result would be something good. Hitting doors over and over again with your sword just to open it because the developers like hitting things is ridiculous and will get old quickly. Then you have the name. It makes no sense to call it Red Steele 2 when it has nothing to do with the origional. I definitely have some questions on how good it will be because some details are obviously not well thought out.

From IGN's pod cast they said it was more like a proof of idea more than a video game...I think they should open doors like they did in metroid and make the gun much more of an important element...but of course we did only get to see a lil bit of the tutorial lvl so thats not much to go on.

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#46 MadSavage22
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Yeah its all about money. Wii in the eyes of almost every publisher is a gambel weather or not its gonna be profitable or not to make that AAA title for the wii...now dont get me wrong I believe the Wii has MASSIVE unlocked potential but is that alone gonna sell developers on weather or not they can make money off that platform no its not. Mock my words but if The Conduit sells well I would expect to see MUCH more AAA TALENT maybe not games but AAA talent being put onto wii projects. Heck you never know developers might have a AAA wii project tucked away waiting for the right time to make it. Until Wii is a PROVEN platform were gonna be stuck with ports of good games and then the crap that is coving the software shelfs of gamestops around the USA.

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#47 AmayaPapaya
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Hmmm...By AAA you mean big franchises? I would love to see a good COD or a Gears of War (Even though it's not FPS)...

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#48 rgame1
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[QUOTE="rgame1"][QUOTE="MadSavage22"]

You sure thats an first person shooter and not an first person action game??

MadSavage22

like whatever man!!

Whow now calm down...from what I have seen so far the gun in RS2 isnt used much...its kinda like "LOOK we have 1:1 sword movement...oh and there is a gun to" LOL

like whatever man!!! Its first person!!
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#49 rgame1
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[QUOTE="MadSavage22"]

[QUOTE="rgame1"] like whatever man!!psychobrew

Whow now calm down...from what I have seen so far the gun in RS2 isnt used much...its kinda like "LOOK we have 1:1 sword movement...oh and there is a gun to" LOL

I agree. After watching the RS2 walkthrough, my impression was the game is full of elements that were simply thrown together in hopes the end result would be something good. Hitting doors over and over again with your sword just to open it because the developers like hitting things is ridiculous and will get old quickly. Then you have the name. It makes no sense to call it Red Steele 2 when it has nothing to do with the origional. I definitely have some questions on how good it will be because some details are obviously not well thought out.

and doing the same thing in all the assassins creed missions is fun and ok right and far from ridiculous right?
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#50 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]Those who are saying red steel 2 and especially the god awful Conduit are deluded, i think it's almost impossible for the Conduit to get AAA from waht i have seen. The problem is that most Wii games lack ambition, compare Red Steel (The only real FPS exclusive to the Wii) to say something like STALKER, KZ2 or Halo3. Hell even something like HL2 seems beyond their graphical and aspirational horizons, There is just too much amazing FPS elsewhere and only 3 FPS games coming to the Wii in the forseeable future. I just think it's a bit much to ask of something wich is still essentially a point and click gamecube. MadSavage22

Holy crap......say that again??

Third party Wii games are lacking in amition much of the time, FPS is very few and far between, FPS has risen to a such high standard (on-line is baically impossible at modern FPS standards on the Wii due to freind codes asshattery). The Wii is not a huge step from the GC in terms of power. All this makes it hard to make an "AAA FPS". FPS has becme about power (just look at KZ2, Bioshock, STALER; CS, Crysis ect etc) and on-line, two things the Wii lacks. It's got the controls no doubt but everything else is conspiring against it.