I am just gonna say it... Skyward Sword is a let down and step back...

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#51 chris3116
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The graphics are fine. They are just more colorful than the Twilight Princess graphics. TP graphics bored me. The colorswere always green, brown and black. As for the controls, they had issues on the lags between the wiimote and the sensor bar. From what Iread on the hands-on on most websites, the game has no issues in the controls.BTW, I'm 26 and I grew up with Zelda owning every Zelda ever made except the CD-I garbage that I didn't know before and I regret to know them now.

I'd like to ask the OP : Since you say it's a downgradem, what was your impressions when Wind Waker was revealed?

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I am disappointed severely with the new Zelda. It is pretty bad when the game's creator has trouble playing it... however, new metroid looks awesome as does kirby donkey kong country. I am mad excited for that. oh, i'm gonna get hate for this from you younger folks, but as someone who has played hundreds of hours of goldeneye on n64, this remake is a let down. It looks like call of duty: goldeneye. TERRIBLE!!!

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I understand your fears as my teenager son also felt the same way about the graphics (he still doesn't like WW) The controls are very promising for both, my son and I, as we both love motion controls over button mashing, at least it make us sweat! I know the on stage show was disappointing but I also read the updated hands on and everything seems great from the point of view of the people at the show For GoldenEye is just not my cup of tea. I'm a 007 fan and that's the actual reason I play those games I'm not sure what you expected to hear/read but I can recommend you to give the new Zelda some time as it is a long shot to have the final product Regards
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#53 ZumaJones07
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It's a let down for me because of the control options. I play games to be lazy and move as little as possible; this game doesn't look like it is built to be that way unfortunately. I certainly hope motion is NOT the way of the future, or at least not the main component of future gaming.
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#54 gamenerd15
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It's a let down for me because of the control options. I play games to be lazy and move as little as possible; this game doesn't look like it is built to be that way unfortunately. I certainly hope motion is NOT the way of the future, or at least not the main component of future gaming.ZumaJones07

No offense, you kind of bought the wrong system if this is what your looking for.

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#55 UbiquitousAeon
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I felt let down by Wind Waker when I first saw it, but it was nothing short of amazing when I played it. Funny how these things work out in the end. You look back at what you said and you feel like a hypocrite.

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#56 Game_Master359
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i actually think the controls look great. also if ya read the nintendo roundtable they still have a lot to do with the game. they're still working on dungeons, graphics and alot of other things. he also said if they went with zelda tp look the game would already be done by now and we'd be playing it this holiday.

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#57 gamenerd15
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The graphics looked better than TP in my opinion. Despite the technical difficulties I like the way you choose an item now. I liked the beetle thing and the whip. I like the way you can use bombs differently. TP felt conservative and more "been there done that." This Zelda seems to be changing things up a little which is good, because it was about time for new gadgets or items. There are no animal gimmicks in this game it seems. Link can be link without the marginally different and unecessary wolf parts.

Goldeneye is being made or at least published by activision, of course it will resemble some things from their hit shooter franchise. The game looked cool. I think it's weird that the new james bond is playing a part that was originally someone else's but what the hey. It is cool that it is a new game and not a remake. If you want to play the original then find an N64 and a copy of the game. This has been Nintendo's best lineup since Wii has been released and you are complaining. 2010 resembles that of 2007 only better. This year Nintendo focused on veteran gamers that have owned previous systems in the past. Metroid, Kirby, Donkey Kong, and Zelda, not bad at all. I wish there were F-zero too but oh well, maybe next year. To top it off there is Goldeneye, and NBA Jam as well, and let us not forget about Sin and Punishment later this month/ You couldn't ask for a better lineup. This is one of the best in years not only for Nintendo but for any company ever. The number of games that look more than decent is pretty great.

You can be disappointed all you want and miss out. Anyone who would complain about the lineup this year can never be satisfied.

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I'm getting tired of repeating myself, read my other posts. There you will clearly see I am excited for a lot of nintendo's line up. DKC Returns, Kirby, Other M... just to name a few make me more giddy than a school girl. I have goldeneye on n64, why would I not. did you play goldeneye on n64? this new game is seriously looking like CoD: GoldenEye... I am sure others agree... but it has been discussed on other boards, that this game will probably be a let down. They are marketing it as a remake for the current gen, it won't be the same experience many ppl had before... LET ME CLEAR SOMETHING UP RIGHT NOW: NEW ZELDA IS 9234902390 TIMES LESS DISAPPOINTING THAN NEW GOLDENEYE, IMO

People read fine, it's just that your saying goldeneye will suck but you haven't played it yet. It's not a remake in the sense that it's not the exact same game from the N64 with better graphics. The story is being retold but, the levels and other things will be completely different. So it's like a new game in same universe and therefore not a remake. The story is being remade but the game is not the same as the original. Like I have said before, it's Activision, of course it will resemble call of duty, That is their bread and butter. I am sure ideas will be brought over from call of duty to implemented in the game. What game company does not use similar ideas for different games? For example, the company Naughty is known for their platforming games and there is platforming in Uncharted, and it's natural that they would do so. Insomniac is known for having crazy weapons in their games and so some ideas for weapons carry over from Resistance to Ratchet and vice versa. Did you honestly think that Activision, the king of all rehash was going to start from a blank slate? The game might good despite Activision's record. Sega hasn't been very good with Sonic as of late but their other franchises like Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles have been good.

This has been the best lineup Nintendo or any other company has had in years and here you are saying how you don't like certain things about it. Three major franchises plus a new spin on an old classic coming out this year is is not anything to complain about at all. Then you have New IP's like the Conduit 2 coming out this year as well plus another old classic NBA Jam. in 2011, you have Zelda, Xenoblade, The Last Story, Tales of Graces maybe, and the Grinder, What is there to complain about?

I have been one of the Wii's harshest critics creating the wii is like Sega 32X thread and I have nothing negative to say about what is coming other than the fact that no F-zero was mentioned. To even suggest anything unsatisfactory from Nintendo and E3 is a joke. Anyone who walked away from Nintendo feeling that it was lacking or bad in any way is just too hard to please.

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#58 FPS1337
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I am disappointed severely with the new Zelda. It is pretty bad when the game's creator has trouble playing it... however, new metroid looks awesome as does kirby donkey kong country. I am mad excited for that. oh, i'm gonna get hate for this from you younger folks, but as someone who has played hundreds of hours of goldeneye on n64, this remake is a let down. It looks like call of duty: goldeneye. TERRIBLE!!!

jamesm7786
OMG YOUR DUMB. Get you info. There was infared interruption, same thing happenend to wii sports resort last year, and IGN said its swordplay is much better then even red steel 2s.
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#59 Pixel-Pirate
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I'm sure it'll follow the Zelda tradition started by Majoras mask.

That is, saying it is a dissapointment when it comes out, and then when the next Zelda game comes out we'll all say it was the best game evah.

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I am disappointed severely with the new Zelda. It is pretty bad when the game's creator has trouble playing it... however, new metroid looks awesome as does kirby donkey kong country. I am mad excited for that. oh, i'm gonna get hate for this from you younger folks, but as someone who has played hundreds of hours of goldeneye on n64, this remake is a let down. It looks like call of duty: goldeneye. TERRIBLE!!!

jamesm7786
lol do some research before you start a topic, there is nothing wrong with the controls. The visuals are simply a matter of personal preference, I like them, but nothing there makes it a step back. And I played a whole lot of Goldeneye back in the day, but if they tried to put that archaic FPS design up against the current FPS market, it would be crushed.
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People read fine, it's just that your saying goldeneye will suck but you haven't played it yet. It's not a remake in the sense that it's not the exact same game from the N64 with better graphics. The story is being retold but, the levels and other things will be completely different. So it's like a new game in same universe and therefore not a remake. The story is being remade but the game is not the same as the original. Like I have said before, it's Activision, of course it will resemble call of duty, That is their bread and butter. I am sure ideas will be brought over from call of duty to implemented in the game. What game company does not use similar ideas for different games? For example, the company Naughty is known for their platforming games and there is platforming in Uncharted, and it's natural that they would do so. Insomniac is known for having crazy weapons in their games and so some ideas for weapons carry over from Resistance to Ratchet and vice versa. Did you honestly think that Activision, the king of all rehash was going to start from a blank slate? The game might good despite Activision's record. Sega hasn't been very good with Sonic as of late but their other franchises like Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles have been good.

This has been the best lineup Nintendo or any other company has had in years and here you are saying how you don't like certain things about it. Three major franchises plus a new spin on an old classic coming out this year is is not anything to complain about at all. Then you have New IP's like the Conduit 2 coming out this year as well plus another old classic NBA Jam. in 2011, you have Zelda, Xenoblade, The Last Story, Tales of Graces maybe, and the Grinder, What is there to complain about?

I have been one of the Wii's harshest critics creating the wii is like Sega 32X thread and I have nothing negative to say about what is coming other than the fact that no F-zero was mentioned. To even suggest anything unsatisfactory from Nintendo and E3 is a joke. Anyone who walked away from Nintendo feeling that it was lacking or bad in any way is just too hard to please.

gamenerd15

Not that I agree with the TC with everything, in particular with the remarks about Zelda at the moment, but I can see where he's coming from with Goldeneye. Personally speaking, after looking at the trailer, the only connection I found with this game and the N64 Classic is the name and a few references. This wouldn't be the first Bond shooter since the original N64 game to have the words "Goldeneye" slapped onto it, and the previous one didn't turn out too well. With that knowledge, the fact that I didn't find the game all too impressive, and the whole opening with the meeting and the people geeking out about the original game, I can't help but think that this title is another play at gamers' nostalgia than a game that's going to actually be worthwhile.

As for the rest of your remark, isn't it... odd that you claim yourself to be one of the Wii's harsest critics in the past, and yet, is upset about someone else being critical about it? Is it because you now seem to be pleased with what Nintendo is currently doing and because the lineup of games manages to appeal more to your tastes, perhaps? :? The TC didn't say that he objected to everything Nintendo showed yesterday or is against the upcoming lineup, but rather explained a few gripes he had about it. Quite frankly, I find that to be fair, even if a few of those things are easily disagreeable. At the end of the day, it's really all about opinion here, so to suggest that no one should suggest anything unsatisfactory about Nintendo at this point in time is a bigger joke than that of suggesting anything unsatisfactory of them. You've done it before, and since we all have different tastes, we all going to have different reactions to different things.

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#62 ASK_Story
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I am disappointed severely with the new Zelda. It is pretty bad when the game's creator has trouble playing it... however, new metroid looks awesome as does kirby donkey kong country. I am mad excited for that. oh, i'm gonna get hate for this from you younger folks, but as someone who has played hundreds of hours of goldeneye on n64, this remake is a let down. It looks like call of duty: goldeneye. TERRIBLE!!!

jamesm7786
I say we wait and play the whole finished game before we pass judgment on it, for both Zelda and Goldeneye.
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#63 KBFloYd
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goldeneye looks like what we would have got if goldeneye 2 was released on n64.

at least that what it looks like to me.

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#64 FPS1337
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[QUOTE="jamesm7786"]

[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

How is it a step back? :?

I think the visuals area downgrade from TP. I am not saying they should have used TP like graphics, but I am thinking they could have done better than this. It looks... artificial for what it is... I am sure someone else out there has had the same realization. I don't know exactly how to word it, but it just looks blah.

IDIOT! Skyward Sword has, 1. less Jaggies 2. Way brighter and better colours 3. Clearer 4. Better sword effects Just because it's more cartoony doesn't mean its worse. The graphics are like the same as twilight princess except more cell shading and better colours. In your case, tatsunoko vs capcom, red steel 2, border lands and mario galaxy have bad graphics.
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#65 FPS1337
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goldeneye looks like what we would have got if goldeneye 2 was released on n64.

at least that what it looks like to me.

The environments don't look bad and IGN said the particle effects and stuff looked nice, it's just i think the character models need work, but they are probably in pre-alpha like MWR was and will get better.
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#66 goblaa
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This is just trolling jamesm7786. Everyone knows it controls great. Everyone knows the graphics are still very early. Everyone knows that is what zelda is supposed to look like. Not like TP or WW.

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#67 jamesm7786
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I am disappointed severely with the new Zelda. It is pretty bad when the game's creator has trouble playing it... however, new metroid looks awesome as does kirby donkey kong country. I am mad excited for that. oh, i'm gonna get hate for this from you younger folks, but as someone who has played hundreds of hours of goldeneye on n64, this remake is a let down. It looks like call of duty: goldeneye. TERRIBLE!!!

Sepewrath

lol do some research before you start a topic, there is nothing wrong with the controls. The visuals are simply a matter of personal preference, I like them, but nothing there makes it a step back. And I played a whole lot of Goldeneye back in the day, but if they tried to put that archaic FPS design up against the current FPS market, it would be crushed.

my other point for not remaking it...

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Well, You're main complaint when you this topic was the rather sketchy presentation of Zelda at E3. This is understandable, and I think everyone was starting to jump the gun on the motion controls. However I and a majority of the people looked and read the hands on impressions of Skyward Sword, and found that the motion controls work actually rather well. Anyway your other complain was about the graphics. I understand that not all people will like a certain game, whether it be the gameplay, the graphics, or even the story. But I don't think we should say that these graphics were a step in the wrong direction. You've yet to play the game and see how the graphics might complement the gameplay. The other reason, is that we've only seen one area of the game, heck for all I know the rest of the game could be filled with flesh eating zombies and blood sucking vampires. The controls have yet to be finished, but for the most part, I've read they work rather well. Though some may not enjoy swinging a wii remote like a sword or even using motion controls for that matter. I don't think this makes the game more casual, as it makes it more of a different experience. One in which people are unsure and afraid of what the outcome will be on it, good or bad. In my opinion a game is an experience, not a movie.
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

How is it a step back? :?

jamesm7786

I think the visuals area downgrade from TP. I am not saying they should have used TP like graphics, but I am thinking they could have done better than this. It looks... artificial for what it is... I am sure someone else out there has had the same realization. I don't know exactly how to word it, but it just looks blah.

You're brushing off the entire game because of the art style regardless of how well it plays?

This sounds familar...

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LISTEN! The game controls fine as stated by hands-on previews. IGN even said they had similar problems last year with wiis sports resort (or something) but in actuality it controls fine. I was dissapointed at first but heres the facts...

1) It DOES control fine, and the controls WILL enhance the play. The controls look fresh and to be a nice addition.

2) The art style is actually nice and better then going with TP again as that would get old. If you watch IGN's latest four vids of their hands on, the style lends itself well to the areas and the controls work fine.

3) It's Zelda, it won't dissapoint.

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well put lol i see the fairy saying LISTEN!!!!!!!
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People read fine, it's just that your saying goldeneye will suck but you haven't played it yet. It's not a remake in the sense that it's not the exact same game from the N64 with better graphics. The story is being retold but, the levels and other things will be completely different. So it's like a new game in same universe and therefore not a remake. The story is being remade but the game is not the same as the original. Like I have said before, it's Activision, of course it will resemble call of duty, That is their bread and butter. I am sure ideas will be brought over from call of duty to implemented in the game. What game company does not use similar ideas for different games? For example, the company Naughty is known for their platforming games and there is platforming in Uncharted, and it's natural that they would do so. Insomniac is known for having crazy weapons in their games and so some ideas for weapons carry over from Resistance to Ratchet and vice versa. Did you honestly think that Activision, the king of all rehash was going to start from a blank slate? The game might good despite Activision's record. Sega hasn't been very good with Sonic as of late but their other franchises like Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles have been good.

This has been the best lineup Nintendo or any other company has had in years and here you are saying how you don't like certain things about it. Three major franchises plus a new spin on an old classic coming out this year is is not anything to complain about at all. Then you have New IP's like the Conduit 2 coming out this year as well plus another old classic NBA Jam. in 2011, you have Zelda, Xenoblade, The Last Story, Tales of Graces maybe, and the Grinder, What is there to complain about?

I have been one of the Wii's harshest critics creating the wii is like Sega 32X thread and I have nothing negative to say about what is coming other than the fact that no F-zero was mentioned. To even suggest anything unsatisfactory from Nintendo and E3 is a joke. Anyone who walked away from Nintendo feeling that it was lacking or bad in any way is just too hard to please.

Madmangamer364

Not that I agree with the TC with everything, in particular with the remarks about Zelda at the moment, but I can see where he's coming from with Goldeneye. Personally speaking, after looking at the trailer, the only connection I found with this game and the N64 Classic is the name and a few references. This wouldn't be the first Bond shooter since the original N64 game to have the words "Goldeneye" slapped onto it, and the previous one didn't turn out too well. With that knowledge, the fact that I didn't find the game all too impressive, and the whole opening with the meeting and the people geeking out about the original game, I can't help but think that this title is another play at gamers' nostalgia than a game that's going to actually be worthwhile.

As for the rest of your remark, isn't it... odd that you claim yourself to be one of the Wii's harsest critics in the past, and yet, is upset about someone else being critical about it? Is it because you now seem to be pleased with what Nintendo is currently doing and because the lineup of games manages to appeal more to your tastes, perhaps? :? The TC didn't say that he objected to everything Nintendo showed yesterday or is against the upcoming lineup, but rather explained a few gripes he had about it. Quite frankly, I find that to be fair, even if a few of those things are easily disagreeable. At the end of the day, it's really all about opinion here, so to suggest that no one should suggest anything unsatisfactory about Nintendo at this point in time is a bigger joke than that of suggesting anything unsatisfactory of them. You've done it before, and since we all have different tastes, we all going to have different reactions to different things.

So what if is has very little in common with first game according to the trailer? If it was too similar then there would be no reason to buy the game since you played it already. Yes the game could be bad but so could Donkey and Krby or any other game that comes out, you can't tell anything from a a 2 minute trailer and half of that was just people clammering on about how awesome the old game was. We don't know what references it will have because we haven't seen any walkthroughs or hands on with the game. His criticism of Goldeneye would be more valid if we have hands on and a video walkthrough showing the game in more detail. The poster complains that it is seems too call of duty, but that was bound to happen since that is what activision is all about. There will be influences no doubt so why complain about what is rather obvious? game publishers and developers put influences in new games that they have used in other ones, hence my Naughty Dog, and Insomniac games example.

Nintendo already said that the motion controls were wonky because of technical issues and that the game would not come until next year. My guess is that this Zelda game will be like Windwaker and come out in March to May, so that means there is at least 9 months left before the game comes out. All I am saying is maybe he should hold his complaints until closer to when Both Zelda and Goldeneye come out. People have been clamoring for veteran type games on the Wii and we finally have a whole sack full of them coming.

Yes I say I am a harsh critic of the Wii. The majority of my posts on this particular forum are not to kind to the system. If you don't believe me check it out for yourself. It has only been in 2010 where my posts have been more kind and that is because, Nintendo really seems to be giving veteran gamers what they wanted since 2008. I am not against casual games but veteran Nintendo have not had that much on a regular basis after Mario Kart Wii came out. We

We had Wario Land Shake it which was cool but would have probably been better on DS, de Blob was veteran gamer like but a bit too easy. and then you had animal crossing for the simulator type. In 09 There was Punch out, Excitebots, Madworld, Little Kings Story , The Conduit and Mario Bros Wii.

In 2010, there is a crap load of games, No more Heroes, 2, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Monster Hunter Tri, Mario Galaxy 2, Sin and Punishment, Trauma Center, Metroid other M, Kirby, Donkey Kong Country returns, Sonic Colors, Prince of Persia, the Forgotten Sands, Goldeneye,

2010 alone seemingly beats both second half of 2008 and all of 2009 give or take a few game I might have forgotten to list. In 2011, we have Zelda coming Xenoblade, Tales of Graces?, and the Last Story? plus Pikmin 3?

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A jerk? because I am being honest about my feelings in regard to this new direction of art style? how would you like me to support my statements, I will gladly do such things. However, do not forget that some of my statements are clearly opinions that I am entitled to have. I will see what you require further writing for and be back in a short while to take care of that. If you really want a massive document for details, I will do that for you =) I am not a jerk, really. I am just old school and am missing the way games used to be before they got all mainstream with all these "hardcore gamer" kids running around acting like they are this and that when they have no idea about anything from the roots of gaming... kids having no respect is the problem. Perhaps I am getting to old at the age of 24 and wanting something that I'll never see. Sorry to have offended you so much. BTW, I totally like ACjamesm7786

Wow, if you're an old timer at 24 what does that make everyone that was playing LoZ on the NES before you could even walk? ;)

I'm very happy with what we've seen of the new Zelda. The graphics look wonderful from what I've seen so far and I'm happy with Nintendo making it a M+ games. The controls may have had issues on stage but every review I've read in the past two days confirms that it plays so much better that what we saw. I have no doubt that any of the kinks will be ironed out while they work on it for the next 6 months. I've never been let down by a Zelda game so I'm confident that Nintendo will keeping working on it until they are completely satisfied with it.

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Skyward Sword has, 1. less Jaggies 2. Way brighter and better colours 3. Clearer 4. Better sword effects Just because it's more cartoony doesn't mean its worse. The graphics are like the same as twilight princess except more cell shading and better colours. In your case, tatsunoko vs capcom, red steel 2, border lands and mario galaxy have bad graphics.FPS1337

The TC never said that he disliked the art styIe because it was cartoony or colorful; he just said that he didn't really like and it didn't gel with him as much as the Twilight Princess styIe. He also never mentioned any of the games you listed out, so it seems like you're just trying to attack him and put words in his mouth.

Regarding your points about Skyward Sword; the first point and the third point are technical issues. The fourth point...I'll give you that one. The second point is a matter of opinion; being brighter and have more colors doesn't automatically equal better art styIe. Personally, I did like Wind Waker's art styIe, but I wouldn't call it superior to Twilight Princess's because it has more color.

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#74 glitch951
Member since 2010 • 25 Posts
You can't know it's a "step back" if you haven't play'd the full game, which nobody has. It's a "wait and see" situation.
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#75 jamesm7786
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This is just trolling jamesm7786. Everyone knows it controls great. Everyone knows the graphics are still very early. Everyone knows that is what zelda is supposed to look like. Not like TP or WW.

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This is not trolling, this is a Wii owner writing his first opinion about a game with what he has at hand... which isn't much aside from some reports, screens, and vids. not everyone knows how this game controls at its early stage, just those at E3, which I do not think you were at. By the way, only one man knows what Zelda is supposed to look like, go ask Mr. Miyamoto what Zelda is supposed to look like. Thank you for reporting my one post and getting me a ToS violation. I think that was uncalled for. Thanks go to madmangamer364 and vgobbsesser for defending a writer's write to have an opinion.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT: Video game previewers and reviewers are paid to write their honest opinion of a game... I don't get paid, but thought I could express my opinion about some games for the console I consider number 1 in my life at the moment... but instead I am cited for trolling... nice.

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#76 JuarN18
Member since 2007 • 4981 Posts

goldeneye was obsolete by the time medal of honor launched

the remake will be better than the original, easily

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#78 slvrraven9
Member since 2004 • 9278 Posts

I am disappointed severely with the new Zelda. It is pretty bad when the game's creator has trouble playing it... however, new metroid looks awesome as does kirby donkey kong country. I am mad excited for that. oh, i'm gonna get hate for this from you younger folks, but as someone who has played hundreds of hours of goldeneye on n64, this remake is a let down. It looks like call of duty: goldeneye. TERRIBLE!!!

jamesm7786

yeah cause im sure you didnt see the part where he was aiming the wii mote up but the cursor was going down and they already stated that there was some outside interference. the fail in that demonstration had absolutely nothing to do with miyamoto. perhaps you should check the website and look at it again....

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#79 mack10
Member since 2002 • 12394 Posts
I think SS will do much better than TP but Zelda lost its charm after WW (so with TP lol) imo, atleast for me, I hope that charm is renewed with SS...I loved the presentation although the controls sucked (which was so obvious from interference, I can't believe people think that's how the game plays)..
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#80 chocolate1325
Member since 2006 • 33007 Posts

You can't judge a game until you have played it Wind Waker is a prime example.

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#81 Elian2530
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I love the new artstyle for skyward sword

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It's hardly new. It's just a better looking Wind Waker to SOME. To me, it's definitely a step backward. But what did you really expect from the Wii? It can only do so much in terms of graphics. I just dont see anything looking better than SMG2 for the Wii console. I was really hoping they would go with TP style graphics so we could see how Zelda would look like since TP was just a port anyhow. Technically, it's a step backwards. Anyone who denies it is just blind and a big fanboy. Let's be serious here. Again, I'm only talking about the graphics, not the gameplay.
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#82 IPWNDU2
Member since 2006 • 2535 Posts

Can I borrow your time machine??? Please let me go with you to the future and play this game. I know you are not basing your opinion off of a small presentation showing off the controls.

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#83 slvrraven9
Member since 2004 • 9278 Posts
[QUOTE="Elian2530"][QUOTE="Wolfman_chopper"]

I love the new artstyle for skyward sword

It's hardly new. It's just a better looking Wind Waker to SOME. To me, it's definitely a step backward. But what did you really expect from the Wii? It can only do so much in terms of graphics. I just dont see anything looking better than SMG2 for the Wii console. I was really hoping they would go with TP style graphics so we could see how Zelda would look like since TP was just a port anyhow. Technically, it's a step backwards. Anyone who denies it is just blind and a big fanboy. Let's be serious here. Again, I'm only talking about the graphics, not the gameplay.

you know, that excuse is so tired "the wii can only do so much in terms of graphics" well the xbox and the ps3 can also "only do so much" in terms of graphics. just because it doesnt have HD visuals like the wonder twins doesnt mean its that the graphics are "limited" as people say. people always judge the wii as a game console based on its visual output and pass it off as not a actual next gen console. well its still more powerful than every console last gen and we were quite pleased with the visuals of last gen before the ps3 and 360 came. i agree that visualy SS isnt as spectacular as TP graphicly but so what? saying that the wii has reached its limit at only 4 years in the game is a pretty big assumption especially since they keep making games look better than before (not saying you said anything like that). im sure they couldve made a game that looks better than TP especialy since its a port. anyway since its a better looking wind waker. wouldnt that mean that its new.....since "technically" weve never seen anything like it before? what did i really expect from the wii? i expect some great games, innovative gameplay with some great graphics.....and yes they are indeed great.
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#84 Lost-Memory
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I am disappointed severely with the new Zelda. It is pretty bad when the game's creator has trouble playing it... however, new metroid looks awesome as does kirby donkey kong country. I am mad excited for that. oh, i'm gonna get hate for this from you younger folks, but as someone who has played hundreds of hours of goldeneye on n64, this remake is a let down. It looks like call of duty: goldeneye. TERRIBLE!!!

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I think you're quick to get to the conclusion you got to for zelda.... and every other game on the list. This e3 was the announcement for pretty much all of those games and the first time anyone has seen anything about them. The new zelda isn't at all what i was expecting, but I think they hit the nail right on the head with it. We'll have to wait a while and see though.
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#85 Wrecked69
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I'm not completely thrilled about the graphics, but what worries me even more is the full on motion controls this game is going to employ. After playing many of the Wii's best games, I can safely say im not a fan of motion controls. Gimmicks aside, how can motion controls deliver anything quicker, simpler, or more effectively than a normal controller? I'm certainly not thrilled to have to swing my wiimote left and right hundreds of times while playing this game, when I could just be pressing B instead. The whole gaming and getting exercise (lol) aspect about the Wii is cute, but for someone who actually gets plenty of exercise on their own, why even bother? This is why i'm certainly not excited for this Zelda release, and that's the first time I can say that since... oh the first time I can ever say that about a Zelda game. Perhaps if the overall gameplay works well with the motion controls and the story, etc is superb, the game can still be solid even for someone in my shoes. However, I wont get my hopes up, after several series that have been brought to the wii have gravely disappointed me already, and were once series I used to love. (I'm thinking of SSX, comparing SSX3 to whatever the latest entry was on the Wii was just shameful.)
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#86 chex81
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being a HUGE Zelda fan, and this new Zelda (and Metroid Other M) being the only reasons I still have a Wii...i was also disappinted. Control problems during conference aside (which i know will work in the end), it wasnt the leap forward Nintendo was bragging about. Meh, ill keep my eye on it but im not excited at all.

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#87 jamesm7786
Member since 2010 • 1074 Posts

to the two above me, thank you for being brave and voicing your opinions despite the "hardcore" gamer hate on people that aren't excited by this game.

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#88 NaveedLife
Member since 2010 • 17179 Posts

Just out of curiousity, what is the "leap forward" people were expecting? I personally was worried they would change it too much, but it appears they have changed it enough with the slick artsyle, new motion controls that enhance gameplay, and the skyworld being a nice change for the 3D games.

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#89 fabz_95
Member since 2006 • 15425 Posts
Don't worry about the demo, people who have had hand-on's with the game have said the controls are perfect, Miyamoto was just unlucky. I was dissapointed with the trailer but I do love the artstyle so I still look forward to the game.
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#90 BrunoBRS
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being a HUGE Zelda fan, and this new Zelda (and Metroid Other M) being the only reasons I still have a Wii...i was also disappinted. Control problems during conference aside (which i know will work in the end), it wasnt the leap forward Nintendo was bragging about. Meh, ill keep my eye on it but im not excited at all.

chex81
it's not "in the end", it's "5 minutes after the conference ended". they work fine. and it was just a demo of what the combat will feel like, they didn't even touch the subject of story or progression yet.