I was a little upset with the characters on SSBB

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#1 ORIGINAL-EGAD1
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Why? First every starfox character had essintially the same moves. Link and toon link were exactly alike. Zero suit samus wasn't a seperate character. There was only one metroid character again. And spyro and crash weren't in it. I didn't find out who the charactrers were till they were won cause i like the surprise of it.

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#2 viewtiful26
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Spyro and Crash? Really? I would have rather have seen Megaman. Yeah I was expecting more third-party characters as well.
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#3 Jdog30
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i hate: wolf , falco, toon link, ice climbers, ganondorf, luigi, peach, zelda, jiggly puff,shiek, and don't get me started about Lucas.

i want: Roy (my main from Melee),Worm (Worms series), and the Mii.

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#4 ORIGINAL-EGAD1
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A worm. I never thought about a worm. That could be pretty good.
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#5 Dark_Link142
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Are you people serious? Or is this a joke thread?

I honestly can't tell.

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#6 metroidfood
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Are you people serious? Or is this a joke thread?

I honestly can't tell.

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QFT. I liked the few 3rd party characters, too many and the wrong choices could have really ruined the experience IMO.

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#7 Jdog30
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A worm. I never thought about a worm. That could be pretty good.ORIGINAL-EGAD1
yeah, just give the worm a bazooka and dynamite and ninja rope and hes good.
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#8 Squire_Ramza
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[QUOTE="Dark_Link142"]

Are you people serious? Or is this a joke thread?

I honestly can't tell.

metroidfood

QFT. I liked the few 3rd party characters, too many and the wrong choices could have really ruined the experience IMO.

Yea, I agree. I especially hate the people who say they wanted Final Fantasy characters in the game. I never believed Nintendo would put in more than a few 3rd party characters. My biggest problem with the game was how lousily the characters are still imbalanced. They nerfed characters who were decent -_- Captain Falcon sucks more than ever in brawl and Mario who was always the defenition of average was made worse while Falco still remains near the top.

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#9 Guntrix50
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ur kidding.....

they should stick to adding more NINTENDO characters

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#10 Squire_Ramza
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ur kidding.....Guntrix50

Sadly I don't think he is

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Why? First every starfox character had essintially the same moves. Link and toon link were exactly alike. Zero suit samus wasn't a seperate character. There was only one metroid character again. And spyro and crash weren't in it. I didn't find out who the charactrers were till they were won cause i like the surprise of it.

ORIGINAL-EGAD1

They didn't change anything with falco, and wolf's moves are different enough. Zero suit samus pretty much is a different character (you can select her from the character select screen), and what other metroid characters could they add? Maybe that's what the developers were going for with her, because she's almost always alone in her games. Also, I think it was good that they stopped where they did with the 3rd party characters.

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suck it up and be a man
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#13 Englando_IV
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Spyro and Crash are horrible suggestions.
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#14 Jdog30
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Spyro and Crash are horrible suggestions.Englando_IV
no spyro. but crash would be cool.
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Why? First every starfox character had essintially the same moves. Link and toon link were exactly alike. Zero suit samus wasn't a seperate character. There was only one metroid character again. And spyro and crash weren't in it. I didn't find out who the charactrers were till they were won cause i like the surprise of it.

ORIGINAL-EGAD1

What are you talking about? Fox and Falco's moves got MORE different than in Melee. First of all, their smash moves aren't exaclty the same now. Falco's forward smash does this slicing wing thing, and Fox's does a kick thing. Falco's up+tilt is different than Fox's now also. And their reflectors are different, and their up+B's work differently. Fox's is single hit, while Falco's does multiiple hits.

And Link and Toon Link have slightly different play styles too. Link is slower but hits harder, and Toon Link can move around a lot faster but has to get his opponents to higher damage before he can kill them. Link's and Toon Link's boomerangs are different, their bombs look different, and their bow+arrows are different. Toon Link's jump and down smash makes him drop down really fast, but Link's doesn't make him change speed. Toon Link's forward smash traps the opponent with the first slash, then knocks them back with the second one. Link's forward smash doesn't trap, but both his slashs have pretty good knock back. Same with Toon Link's and Link's down smashes. Toon traps, Link's knocks back.

And as for Zero Suit Samus, you can hold shield button to start the match as her.

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#16 EmilioDigsIt
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Am I the only one that thinks the original characters are the best? The rest just seem like copy cats and there have been too many damn Pokemon.
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#17 ZombiezLovePie
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i really dont like what they did to samus....feel soo bulky running around....and as zero suit samus,i still feel like a cheerleader when i play as her ._. toon link ftw.
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Why? First every starfox character had essintially the same moves. Link and toon link were exactly alike. Zero suit samus wasn't a seperate character. There was only one metroid character again. And spyro and crash weren't in it. I didn't find out who the charactrers were till they were won cause i like the surprise of it.

ORIGINAL-EGAD1

1. You're a little late to jump on the "SSBB's character roster isn't perfect" bandwagon.

2. (Referring to bold text) That is why you don't work in the video game industry.

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#19 firefox59
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Megaman......that is all.
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#20 bobdood99
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and don't get me started about Lucas.

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my best is Lucas and i have never lost online or offline with him once i got good
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#21 Squire_Ramza
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Include him and the game would be flawless xP http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26482742
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#22 ORIGINAL-EGAD1
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[QUOTE="ORIGINAL-EGAD1"]

Why? First every starfox character had essintially the same moves. Link and toon link were exactly alike. Zero suit samus wasn't a seperate character. There was only one metroid character again. And spyro and crash weren't in it. I didn't find out who the charactrers were till they were won cause i like the surprise of it.

Chojuto

What are you talking about? Fox and Falco's moves got MORE different than in Melee. First of all, their smash moves aren't exaclty the same now. Falco's forward smash does this slicing wing thing, and Fox's does a kick thing. Falco's up+tilt is different than Fox's now also. And their reflectors are different, and their up+B's work differently. Fox's is single hit, while Falco's does multiiple hits.

And Link and Toon Link have slightly different play styles too. Link is slower but hits harder, and Toon Link can move around a lot faster but has to get his opponents to higher damage before he can kill them. Link's and Toon Link's boomerangs are different, their bombs look different, and their bow+arrows are different. Toon Link's jump and down smash makes him drop down really fast, but Link's doesn't make him change speed. Toon Link's forward smash traps the opponent with the first slash, then knocks them back with the second one. Link's forward smash doesn't trap, but both his slashs have pretty good knock back. Same with Toon Link's and Link's down smashes. Toon traps, Link's knocks back.

And as for Zero Suit Samus, you can hold shield button to start the match as her.

First of all i know you can start the match with zero suit samus. Second are you saying toon link should be in there because his stuff looks different. Third essintialy the characters i mentioned are all the same they may do something slightly different but really its nearly all the same. O and by the way to that other person their are plenty of characters from the metroid series to include such as dark samus (if we can have toon or young link we can have dark samus) noxus, weavel, kanden, spire etc.

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[QUOTE="Jdog30"]

and don't get me started about Lucas.

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my best is Lucas and i have never lost online or offline with him once i got good

Lucas is awesome, one of my fav. characters. Way better than Ness with a yo-yo and a B-up move when it hits a character it goes away, when lucas's B-up does not.
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I love having both Toon Link and Link in the game, and not just because they look different. They play totally differently. Link is slow and powerful, and Toon Link is fast. Real fast. It's nice because they are two different takes on the same moveset.

I would have liked to see some of the hunters from MP3 in the game: Rundas, Ghor, etc. Samus needs company.

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#25 Castle_freak
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I think some of the SSBB characters are alright, but why hasn't Nintendo ever used Simon Belmont or any other Castlevania character? Its a classic game series that still pulls out some awsome games to this day, where as Ice Climbers and Pit havent starred in their own game since the Gameboy and NES.
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#26 Axass
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Crash and Spyro? They are Sony's characters... how in the nine hells would they be in SSB? Now forsome more serious picks:

"Dr. Mario
Mewtwo
Roy
Dixie Kong
Toon Zelda/Toon Sheik
Plusle & Minun"

They were originally planned for Brawl but were cut out due to time restraints. So it's a given they would be in SSB4.

Isaac, from Golden Sun. He's a mixture of swordfighting (like Marth) and psychic powers (like Ness/Lucas). Seeing as he's now an assist trophy in Brawl, and he has two games under his belt as a main character, I think he has good chances of being in an hypothetic SSB4.

Paper Mario. I just want him in so bad. He would be the weird character in SSB4, like Mister G&W and ROB were for their respective games. Think of the possibilities with his movese, paper plane as a come back move, hammer as a forward smash, flipping on the other side as a counter, and maybe switching partners with B+down (like PT), you could switch between Bombette, Kooper and someone else and use them exactly as in Paper Mario (Mario jumps on Kooper and sends him forward, and he puts Bombette down and she goes straight for a while then explode) with neutral B. Obviously having Star Power as a final smash.

Stafy, from the Legend of Stafy. Another assist trophy from Brawl, it's quite a popular series in Japan (4 games already) and Sakurai said he's interested in addingjapanese only characters after seeing what happened with Roy/Marth and Fire Emblem.

Geno, from Mario RPG. Because many want him, however I find it unlikely for him to be in SSB4 because he's a very minor character in the Mario universe, even overshadowed by the likes of Daisy and Waluigi. Plus I think his rights are in Square Enix's hands.

Megaman. Most likely 3rd party character to be in SSB4 IMO. Capcom is one of the few software houses which has an excellent relationship with Nintendo, they brought some heavy exclusive titles on GC/WII (Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil 4, PN.3, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7, No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki plus they ported Okami. Some ended on PS2 too though). Plus he totally fits SSB's mood.

King K. Roll, from DK. The archenemy of DK, 'nuff said. They may or may not add it.

Ridley, from Metroid. One recurring enemy of Samus, one of the most liked by fans. I frankly thought they would add him in Brawl (well he is in Brawl as a boss). Maybe there's a problem with his size... (even though his size seems to vary from game to game)

Banjo/Kazooie, Conker. Too bad they sold Rare, it would have been simply awesome to have them...

Krystal from Starfox Adventures. Would have been such a great addition for the Starfox series, much better than Falco or Wolf, who are mostly clones of Fox, rod techniques could be cool. Too bad fans hate her (me too...), very unpopular pick...

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#27 wolf360rev
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Crash and spyro are not sony characters they went multi platform so they could have been in. I was hoping for Spyro,wolf link, krystal, ridley and amaterasu. but the game turned out decent regardless.
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#28 TheLadiesChoice
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Why are people still talking about this over-hyped 'trash'?

(Sure seems like it with the outstanding number of complaints)

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#29 shadowlink797
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I found the roster to be just fine. Sure there were clones but I don't mind them as much as others do especially since you'll find clones in any fighting game. At first I was a little upset that there were only 35 characters but I got over that quickly. My only major beef with the characters at this point is Toon Link. I felt that he had potential to have a separate moveset from regular Link.

Also Crash and Spyro should never, and I mean never be in a Smash Bros. game. At one point they were official Sony mascots. Their games were developed by Naughty Dog and Insomniac, one of which is part of Sony and the other is an extremely loyal third party.

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#30 AsadMahdi59
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crash and spyro- no

they only need one more 3rd party character and that would be megaman

but i agree fox, falco and wolf are too similar. wolf is somewhat different but i dont think enough to warrant him being in the game.

i also agree there shoulda been someone else from metroid, any hunter from hunters would have worked.

toon link and link i dont mind.

i'd like to see king k rool. dixie kong, tom nook. maybe a pkmn trainer 2 with chikorita, cyndaquil and totodile. (but two of them evolved to 2nd and 3rd.)

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#31 lsesrekmsa66
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viewtiful, spyro has not exactly been successful lately, and im pretty sure crash is sony's property
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#32 GamerJM
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You shouldn't have expected any of that in the first place after the improvements Melee made.
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#33 ORIGINAL-EGAD1
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(I know this is a little late but i don't get on here often)O wow how could i be so stupid toon link runs faster....GIVE ME A BREAK!

O and they already have enough mario characters. o and why haven't they included that guy from resident evil 4 the main character.

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#34 chazasul
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People complaining about the Brawl roster, that's new... :roll:
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#35 sman3579
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I really wanted King K. Rool, Mii, Tom Nook, Paper Mario, and Krystal. I actually thought of a moves for Paper Mario, Tom Nook, and Mii.
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#36 Lord_Omikron666
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People complaining about the Brawl roster, that's new... :roll:chazasul

People making too many Brawl threads is the new thing on the board... :roll:
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#37 MangoLlamas
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Spyro and Crash are horrible suggestions.Englando_IV
Exactly. Oh and a worm would be awsome! A shotgun, grenade, parachute, ninja rope, rocket launcher and you're set.
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#38 deku-shrub
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none of the star fox charecters had the same moves,there specials were similar but there standerds were all completaly differant.
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You know what this game needs? More Cowbell!
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#40 Felmo_07
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i was a little dissapointed too especially since they added Lucas in, i hate him and i never use him. I really wanted Ridley out of all characters but also King.K.Rool, mii character and paper mario
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#41 PecansAreNuts
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I don't think there is anything wrong with the characters.