If the Next Zelda isn't full orchestrated...

[QUOTE="LinkChicky"]

[QUOTE="spidey008"][QUOTE="_vacant_"]you people do all know that ZREO is not a real orchestra right? (some of you seem to think it is)

so how are they a better example of what TP could be doing....? its just midi tracks sent through various instrument libraries.Son-of-a-Gun

You'll probably get that on the next game.  TP was originally for the Gamecube afterall, and they only had so much space on those little discs to cram all that programming and would want to use the smallest, most expedient formats possible.  Surely, you didn't expect them to have time to turn around, hire an orchestra, record them, on top of mirroring the game and adapting the controls to the Wii remote for the Wii version and have it out in time for launch???  I swear you folks complaining about that have some seriously faulty reasoning skills and lack any sort of commonsense.

*BLINK* Wow, that really was incomprehensible. Hable Inglés? 

[QUOTE="SakuraNinja"][QUOTE="Raiko101"]Man, people get all worked up over nothing... lol.Wintry_Flutist

Turn the sound off and tell me the game is fun.

[QUOTE="LinkChicky"]

[QUOTE="spidey008"][QUOTE="_vacant_"]you people do all know that ZREO is not a real orchestra right? (some of you seem to think it is)

so how are they a better example of what TP could be doing....? its just midi tracks sent through various instrument libraries.Son-of-a-Gun

You'll probably get that on the next game. TP was originally for the Gamecube afterall, and they only had so much space on those little discs to cram all that programming and would want to use the smallest, most expedient formats possible. Surely, you didn't expect them to have time to turn around, hire an orchestra, record them, on top of mirroring the game and adapting the controls to the Wii remote for the Wii version and have it out in time for launch??? I swear you folks complaining about that have some seriously faulty reasoning skills and lack any sort of commonsense.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="SakuraNinja"][QUOTE="Raiko101"]Man, people get all worked up over nothing... lol.yodariquo

Turn the sound off and tell me the game is fun.

That's why you don't listen how weak MIDI is compared to actual music.

[QUOTE="yodariquo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="SakuraNinja"][QUOTE="Raiko101"]Man, people get all worked up over nothing... lol.Wintry_Flutist

Turn the sound off and tell me the game is fun.

That's why you don't listen how weak MIDI is compared to actual music.

I actually quite like the synth music in zelda games, it gives it a bizzare feel. anyway fully orchestraed music is done by everyone nowadays and sounds very pompous in my opinion, take Halo for instance, the music on that game makes it feel likes its the second coming of christ, where really its just a pretty good game.Darklayk

Midi is and will always be the way to go with certain game types. I mean come on, the music in a lot of Super Nintendo games was awesome. Like the original Mario Kart, and all the Final Fantasies. cougar65

[QUOTE="cougar65"]Midi is and will always be the way to go with certain game types. I mean come on, the music in a lot of Super Nintendo games was awesome. Like the original Mario Kart, and all the Final Fantasies. Litchie

[QUOTE="Son-of-a-Gun"][QUOTE="LinkChicky"]

[QUOTE="spidey008"][QUOTE="_vacant_"]you people do all know that ZREO is not a real orchestra right? (some of you seem to think it is)

so how are they a better example of what TP could be doing....? its just midi tracks sent through various instrument libraries.yodariquo

You'll probably get that on the next game. TP was originally for the Gamecube afterall, and they only had so much space on those little discs to cram all that programming and would want to use the smallest, most expedient formats possible. Surely, you didn't expect them to have time to turn around, hire an orchestra, record them, on top of mirroring the game and adapting the controls to the Wii remote for the Wii version and have it out in time for launch??? I swear you folks complaining about that have some seriously faulty reasoning skills and lack any sort of commonsense.

[QUOTE="the_hsoj"]

[QUOTE="web966"]Midi music doesnt bother meWintry_Flutist

me neither

Both of you are near deafness.

I actually quite like the synth music in zelda games, it gives it a bizarre feel. anyway fully orchestraed music is done by everyone nowadays and sounds very pompous in my opinion, take Halo for instance, the music on that game makes it feel likes its the second coming of christ, where really its just a pretty good game.Darklayk

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="yodariquo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="SakuraNinja"][QUOTE="Raiko101"]Man, people get all worked up over nothing... lol.yodariquo

Turn the sound off and tell me the game is fun.

That's why you don't listen how weak MIDI is compared to actual music.

You're aware since the first post we all mean actual orchestra recordings by "orchestration", right? Orchestration simply obliterates MIDI, no matter how Gamespot rates it, which is not the point here.

So, I take it you're all foaming at the mouth because SSBB is Orchestrated...right?

So, I take it you're all foaming at the mouth because SSBB is Orchestrated...right?

NECR0CHILD313

What?

TP Music was great i don't see why people complain... oh yeah cuz its not orchestrated. SO WHAT? You people sumtimes want too much and don't appreciate what they give.

One the next title, if they do it, fine. if they don't WHO CARES? People will buy it because it is Zelda, REAL TALK.
WR_Platinum

Then Nintendo will be really lame and will fall in my estim.

I mean listen to this http://www.zreomusic.com/index.php

Nintendo had no excuse TP should have been orchestrated. I mean cmon its on a DVD theres enough space! The next Zelda better be orchestrated.

Hir0_N

Personally I have no problems with MIDI in anyway. There are a few scores that I have listened to orchestrated, and they sound nice, some even better than their MIDI counterparts. One of the ones that I can't seem to find a better version of is anything from Wind Waker. I have listened to many orchestrated versions of various tunes, none of them have been as good as the original. Take the theme from Dragon Roost Island, I love it just the way it is, and the orchestrated versions I have heard are just AWFUL when compared. That is why I bought the original sound track to Wind Waker, and so far my collection is all good.
Oh, and don't tell me I'm deaf, I have my personal likings. I had no problem with Twilight Princess, I liked the music just fine. Whatever Nintendo decides to do with the next Zelda is jut fine with me, MIDI or orchestrated, Zelda music has always been my favorite.
Cesar_Barba

[QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"]Personally I have no problems with MIDI in anyway. There are a few scores that I have listened to orchestrated, and they sound nice, some even better than their MIDI counterparts. One of the ones that I can't seem to find a better version of is anything from Wind Waker. I have listened to many orchestrated versions of various tunes, none of them have been as good as the original. Take the theme from Dragon Roost Island, I love it just the way it is, and the orchestrated versions I have heard are just AWFUL when compared. That is why I bought the original sound track to Wind Waker, and so far my collection is all good.
Oh, and don't tell me I'm deaf, I have my personal likings. I had no problem with Twilight Princess, I liked the music just fine. Whatever Nintendo decides to do with the next Zelda is jut fine with me, MIDI or orchestrated, Zelda music has always been my favorite.
Dencore

[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"]Personally I have no problems with MIDI in anyway. There are a few scores that I have listened to orchestrated, and they sound nice, some even better than their MIDI counterparts. One of the ones that I can't seem to find a better version of is anything from Wind Waker. I have listened to many orchestrated versions of various tunes, none of them have been as good as the original. Take the theme from Dragon Roost Island, I love it just the way it is, and the orchestrated versions I have heard are just AWFUL when compared. That is why I bought the original sound track to Wind Waker, and so far my collection is all good.
Oh, and don't tell me I'm deaf, I have my personal likings. I had no problem with Twilight Princess, I liked the music just fine. Whatever Nintendo decides to do with the next Zelda is jut fine with me, MIDI or orchestrated, Zelda music has always been my favorite.
FFXIsAstyanax

Can some-one please explain (or try and prove) why Orchestrated music is "better" than midi (or digital) music?

Go on, i dare ya.

Zelda music really does need to be orchestrated. This is the best TP video I've ever seen and the music is orchestrated. Don't watch it if you haven't finished TP because there are spoilers.

http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=22422

justiceturtle

I agree

Im dark mark91 on that website look what was the second thing I said.

Can some-one please explain (or try and prove) why Orchestrated music is "better" than midi (or digital) music?

Go on, i dare ya.

Rufus_1

Just as sex is better than masturbation Nothing can beat the real deal.

[QUOTE="Rufus_1"]

Can some-one please explain (or try and prove) why Orchestrated music is "better" than midi (or digital) music?

Go on, i dare ya.

Wintry_Flutist

Just as sex is better than masturbation Nothing can beat the real deal.

Midi music doesnt bother meweb966

There's a reason they used MIDI for the game, and it's because of all the transcending effects made in the music.  Music changing when you encounter enemies the way it does either can't be done or it's close to impossible to do with orchestrated music.  This subtle feature is one exclusive to the Zelda series, so for that reason I don't really care that the music's in MIDI.

However, if they figured out how to orchestrate AND make those effects work, power to them.  You'd never hear me complain.
t3Hospital

Don't be ingenuous, it's just made with fade in and fade out...

[QUOTE="t3Hospital"]There's a reason they used MIDI for the game, and it's because of all the transcending effects made in the music. Music changing when you encounter enemies the way it does either can't be done or it's close to impossible to do with orchestrated music. This subtle feature is one exclusive to the Zelda series, so for that reason I don't really care that the music's in MIDI.

However, if they figured out how to orchestrate AND make those effects work, power to them. You'd never hear me complain.
Wintry_Flutist

Don't be ingenuous, it's just made with fade in and fade out...

people people I think the real question here is not "when will zelda feature orchestra" the real question is that when zelda does feature an orchestrq what other problem will people try to find in zelda to whine and b**** about

people people I think the real question here is not "when will zelda feature orchestra" the real question is that when zelda does feature an orchestrq what other problem will people try to find in zelda to whine and b**** about

newhenpal

There were complains about Final Fantasy VII not featuring orchestrations. I guess that two generations later, it's about time to start complaining about Zelda lack of audio quality. It's a waste of scores to create MIDI instead of recording Kondo's compositions...

[QUOTE="newhenpal"]

people people I think the real question here is not "when will zelda feature orchestra" the real question is that when zelda does feature an orchestrq what other problem will people try to find in zelda to whine and b**** about

Wintry_Flutist

There were complains about Final Fantasy VII not featuring orchestrations. I guess that two generations later, it's about time to start complaining about Zelda lack of audio quality. It's a waste of scores to create MIDI instead of recording Kondo's compositions...

I honestly don't care. Not having orchestrated music didn't stop Twilight Princess from being the greatest game ever.Dencore

somethin tells me that cuz the Gamecube was dyin', Nintendo didn't put 100% of their effort into Twilight Princess... it's just a hunch i dunno, but i'm thinkin' the next Zelda will blow it away. I could be wrong....ShakeNBake1491

[QUOTE="yodariquo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="yodariquo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="SakuraNinja"][QUOTE="Raiko101"]Man, people get all worked up over nothing... lol.Wintry_Flutist

Turn the sound off and tell me the game is fun.

That's why you don't listen how weak MIDI is compared to actual music.

You're aware since the first post we all mean actual orchestra recordings by "orchestration", right? Orchestration simply obliterates MIDI, no matter how Gamespot rates it, which is not the point here.