if you want new games, buy or help the GCN ports

If they release Metroid Prime 1 and 2 packed together, I'm getting it right away. Gamecube disks held 1.5 Gigabytes, while regular DVDs hold 4.7 Gigabytes. Both Metroid Prime games would take 3 gigs of space, leaving 1.7 gigabytes free to add a crapload of stuff, like voice acting and even a couple of "The making of..." videos or something.

If they get lazy and release them separately, I'll wait for a couple of reviews.

If they wanted to play with a GC controller, they would have gotten a GC. These new gamers are here for the wiimote.

Except the wiimote does all that. If I had never played MP or Pikmin before, Id want it with the superior wiimote too.

If they release Metroid Prime 1 and 2 packed together, I'm getting it right away. Gamecube disks held 1.5 Gigabytes, while regular DVDs hold 4.7 Gigabytes. Both Metroid Prime games would take 3 gigs of space, leaving 1.7 gigabytes free to add a crapload of stuff, like voice acting and even a couple of "The making of..." videos or something.

If they get lazy and release them separately, I'll wait for a couple of reviews.

LordQuorthon

Exactly! They should put both primes on the same disc just like allstars and add some extra content along with wii-mote controlls, than it would be worth it!

Instead they seem to just be directly porting the games with zero new content and just slapping on wii-mote controls which in some cases do next to nothing like in mario tenis where all the wii-mote does is the "waggle" commad which is beyond lame!

[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="goblaa"]He's right though. Know someone who missed the GC? Know some ones who is one of these wii non-gamers? Show them the way to these ports. Show them how much fun pikmin, DK, and metroid are. Nintendo will have all the more reason to keep supporting these franchises.goblaa

If they wanted to play with a GC controller, they would have gotten a GC. These new gamers are here for the wiimote.

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="raahsnavj"] Once they realize games CAN be instantly responsive and can jump by pushing a button instead of flicking the wiimote, and it fits in their hand better without giving them cramps, they will gladly switch...raahsnavj

Except the wiimote does all that. If I had never played MP or Pikmin before, Id want it with the superior wiimote too.

I'll only buy them if they support the gamecube controller webbut

Personally I'll be picking upe Metroid Prime 1/2, mainly because I missed them the first time, and the are using the same control scheme as Metroid Prime 3. I might also grab Pikmin, but I'm not sure yet. Also it is very hard to find any of these games under $50AU and many of them are used. If you don't want them, don't get them. It's that simple.

I agree. If these "Wiimakes" sell extremely well then Nintendo will realise just how big its core gamer audience is and will shift their strategy to include us more by putting more man power behind making new IPs like the gamecube had (Animal Crossing and PIKMIN) or more importantly, making Pikmin 3 the best it can possibly be (they set their standards insanely high with Pikmin 2)Pikminmaniac

Why would they do that? If these are successful all it will tell them is that they can re-release all their old GC titles with minimal effort and overhead costs, and achieve the same results as if they had invested all their resources into making new games. If these things sell, all it will mean is that we're going to see 'New Play Control!' titles until the day the Wii dies.

They're not going to invest $10 into a product when they can get the same sales by investing only $1.

Edit: Oh, and guess what successful 'New Play Control!' games will encourage other developers with GC titles to do?

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]I agree. If these "Wiimakes" sell extremely well then Nintendo will realise just how big its core gamer audience is and will shift their strategy to include us more by putting more man power behind making new IPs like the gamecube had (Animal Crossing and PIKMIN) or more importantly, making Pikmin 3 the best it can possibly be (they set their standards insanely high with Pikmin 2)presto7640

Why would they do that? If these are successful all it will tell them is that they can re-release all their old GC titles with minimal effort and overhead costs, and achieve the same results as if they had invested all their resources into making new games. If these things sell, all it will mean is that we're going to see 'New Play Control!' titles until the day the Wii dies.

They're not going to invest $10 into a product when they can get the same sales by investing only $1.

Edit: Oh, and guess what successful 'New Play Control!' games will encourage other developers with GC titles to do?

I can't see why everyone is so paranoid about these titles. The mentality thats going around is that if these titles are brought then Nintendo will neglect everything else and only release Wii-Makes from now on. What would Nintendo have to gain from this, hmm. They currently have Pikmin, Zelda, and mario in the works, as well as a new Punch-Out!. Rumours of Kid Icarus and Starfox have also been thrown about. This is easely enough evidence to show that Nintendo will be releasing new IPs in the future, and continue to do so for a longtime yet. If they stopped these and only released Wiimakes they would see a drop in profits, and a loss thier fanbase. If they only wanted to do that then they would've only released Gamecube remakes from the beginning. It's a common marketing stratagy that Nintendo have used in the past, and proven successful. It would proably give the new gamers better stuff to play instead of all that shovel-were thats shoved down their throuts. Shayde_Shadow

I don't believe anyone is suggesting that Nintendo is going to stop making new games. The Wii has enough ports and remakes already without Nintendo demonstrating to other developers how successful Wiimakes can be. Yeah, there will always be new games, but there will be a serious disparity between the amount of new quality games and the amount of rehashed GC titles. It's simply a move in the wrong direction for consumers.

I can't see why everyone is so paranoid about these titles. The mentality thats going around is that if these titles are brought then Nintendo will neglect everything else and only release Wii-Makes from now on. What would Nintendo have to gain from this, hmm. They currently have Pikmin, Zelda, and mario in the works, as well as a new Punch-Out!. Rumours of Kid Icarus and Starfox have also been thrown about. This is easely enough evidence to show that Nintendo will be releasing new IPs in the future, and continue to do so for a longtime yet. If they stopped these and only released Wiimakes they would see a drop in profits, and a loss thier fanbase. If they only wanted to do that then they would've only released Gamecube remakes from the beginning. It's a common marketing stratagy that Nintendo have used in the past, and proven successful. It would proably give the new gamers better stuff to play instead of all that shovel-were thats shoved down their throuts. Shayde_Shadow

@santiagochile

I ment Pikmin 3, not the New Play Control one. I also know that Zelda and Mario before 2010 is wishful thinking, but then agian I never said they'd come out in 09.

The new 'Wii-makes' are not a bad thing. As I said before if Nintendo really wanted to be cheap they would've released 'Wii-makes' from the very beginning and continued to only release Wii-makes'. They are releasing these because of demand from consumers wanting to play these old games with Wii controls. They also are releasing them at an opitune time when they have no new First Party titles coming out for a couple of months. Nintendo will still be able to release these games concurrent with their new releases as well. Some of these 'Wii-Makes' will have new features and extras whilst others won't. Nintendo aren't neglecting their customers, they are just giving them what they want. Third parties have been releasing their old PS2/GC titles on the Wii for ages now, and they haven't affected the Wii at all so why can't Nintendo do exactly the same thing?

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]I agree. If these "Wiimakes" sell extremely well then Nintendo will realise just how big its core gamer audience is and will shift their strategy to include us more by putting more man power behind making new IPs like the gamecube had (Animal Crossing and PIKMIN) or more importantly, making Pikmin 3 the best it can possibly be (they set their standards insanely high with Pikmin 2)presto7640

Why would they do that? If these are successful all it will tell them is that they can re-release all their old GC titles with minimal effort and overhead costs, and achieve the same results as if they had invested all their resources into making new games. If these things sell, all it will mean is that we're going to see 'New Play Control!' titles until the day the Wii dies.

They're not going to invest $10 into a product when they can get the same sales by investing only $1.

Edit: Oh, and guess what successful 'New Play Control!' games will encourage other developers with GC titles to do?

What's left to wiimake? starfox? It's pointless to wiimake mario and zelda, everyone knows those franchises. Mario Kart and AC are already popular enough. Games like pikmin and metroid are franchises that 'should' sell...but this new wii audiance is unaware of them. These wiimkaes are here to stir up awareness so that games like pikmin 3 will have large fanbase for its release.

Just look what happened to MP3. 500K? That's awful. And it's not because its bad, its because most people never played MP1 or MP2.

The mario bros remakes sold really well on the GBA...nintendo didn't take the easy route and only do remakes from then on out.

I've opened up the ''New Play Control' Games Descussion' to tie up all these threads about the New Play Control Games. Heres the adress:

http://au.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26768644&tag=topics;title

[QUOTE="presto7640"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]I agree. If these "Wiimakes" sell extremely well then Nintendo will realise just how big its core gamer audience is and will shift their strategy to include us more by putting more man power behind making new IPs like the gamecube had (Animal Crossing and PIKMIN) or more importantly, making Pikmin 3 the best it can possibly be (they set their standards insanely high with Pikmin 2)goblaa

Why would they do that? If these are successful all it will tell them is that they can re-release all their old GC titles with minimal effort and overhead costs, and achieve the same results as if they had invested all their resources into making new games. If these things sell, all it will mean is that we're going to see 'New Play Control!' titles until the day the Wii dies.

They're not going to invest $10 into a product when they can get the same sales by investing only $1.

Edit: Oh, and guess what successful 'New Play Control!' games will encourage other developers with GC titles to do?

What's left to wiimake? starfox? It's pointless to wiimake mario and zelda, everyone knows those franchises. Mario Kart and AC are already popular enough. Games like pikmin and metroid are franchises that 'should' sell...but this new wii audiance is unaware of them. These wiimkaes are here to stir up awareness so that games like pikmin 3 will have large fanbase for its release.

Just look what happened to MP3. 500K? That's awful. And it's not because its bad, its because most people never played MP1 or MP2.

The mario bros remakes sold really well on the GBA...nintendo didn't take the easy route and only do remakes from then on out.

Again, I'm not trying to say that they'll only make remakes forever.

You have a point about using a cheaper game to build a base for a new release, and I imagine that is one of Nintendo's primary goals.

That doesn't change the fact that Nintendo is setting a precedent for development on Wii. There is a long list of games that were either developed or published by Nintendo for the GC. The Wiimake well is nowhere near dried up. But putting that aside, the real problem is the message they're sending to third parties. Why spend gobs of cash developing a new IP when you can spend next to nothing and get similar sales results?

I'm not trying to paint a picture of the end of times for the Wii. Like I said before, there will never be an end to new games being made. What I'm saying is that now, these new titles will be sharing the Wii game rack with a boat load of GC titles.