IGN is lieing with COD:MWR

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#1 FPS1337
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The graphics are hugely improved from WAW. The online is incredibly smooth and fun, the framerate is low, but more playable then WAW still. I never had a pointer problem ever. The game is really good even check the MWR boards.

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#2 double_a73
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Whatever helps you sleep at night

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Time! ... I was wondering how long it would take you to create a thread defending Modern Reflex. And my prediction wasn't too far off. Though I was expecting to go a little further in -depth.
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#4 FPS1337
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okay buy it yourself and play, trust me I'm not biased I thought this wouldn't be that good until I saw gameplay videos and I did not like WAW at all.
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#5 FPS1337
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and I like 360 more and I have MW2 hardened edition.
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#6 ACL0V3R
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As long as I enjoy the game, who cares?

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#7 gamefan67
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I believe there still is an official MWR thread somewhere around here:?
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#8 FFCYAN
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Even if MW DID look better than WAW, that's not saying much. Apparently, there are technical issues, which isn't hard to understand considering the time and effort put into this port. I'll probably rent this game though to see how the online turned out.

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#9 FPS1337
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Ya atleast try it, but it looks very similar to the original, but it's in lower resolution.
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#10 TheColbert
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I doubt they are lieing I just think you liked it more than them since it is all a matter of opinion. You even said the framrate was low which was their major problem
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#11 awssk8er716
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It really is so much better from World at War.

I played World at War, and hated it (I hate Call of Duty in general), but I played Modern Warfare Reflex at my friends house yesterday (I didn't like the 360 one), and this one is really good. I'm definitely going to get it.

But I could careless about someone's opinion, so just ignore IGN.

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#12 Jaysonguy
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IGN's complaints are also talked about by other reviews as well

How do you explain them as well?

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Who really cares? If you think they're good, then good for you. No need to lose sleep because of what IGN said.

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#14 painguy1
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stop running and face the fact that the game is a lazy port. like jayson siad others have also mentioned the same reoccuring issues

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#15 DeeDeeDee-er
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It's getting good reviews, but all those flaws are mentioned, maybe not all in one review but I've seen at least one review complaining about each of those points.

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#16 darth-pyschosis
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Dont listen to those posters or reviewers (even though it has a rating of 82.5 so far with three AAA reviews)

they like to form opinions on things with no personal experience with the title, and they are free to do so

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#17 FPS1337
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

IGN's complaints are also talked about by other reviews as well

How do you explain them as well?

Not really, the majority of review sights gave it a 9.0, which are 3, 2 8.0, 1 7.5s, and 1 7.0. It's a fun game and I don't want one review to ruin a game like conduit. 1 site doesn't like it so then everyone else notices it's problems instead of embracing the good things about it.
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#18 young80s
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[QUOTE="FPS1337"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

IGN's complaints are also talked about by other reviews as well

How do you explain them as well?

Not really, the majority of review sights gave it a 9.0, which are 3, 2 8.0, 1 7.5s, and 1 7.0. It's a fun game and I don't want one review to ruin a game like conduit. 1 site doesn't like it so then everyone else notices it's problems instead of embracing the good things about it.

Wait, you think theyre lying because they gave it a bad score and yet when ppl say that theyre problems with it are brought up by other sites as well you don't call those sites liars as well. Well that just lost you all credibility with me. I could understand you being upset about the score, but to call them liars and defend your claim with other reviewers that cite similar problems but give it higher scores is just ridiculous.
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#19 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="FPS1337"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

IGN's complaints are also talked about by other reviews as well

How do you explain them as well?

young80s

Not really, the majority of review sights gave it a 9.0, which are 3, 2 8.0, 1 7.5s, and 1 7.0. It's a fun game and I don't want one review to ruin a game like conduit. 1 site doesn't like it so then everyone else notices it's problems instead of embracing the good things about it.

Wait, you think theyre lying because they gave it a bad score and yet when ppl say that theyre problems with it are brought up by other sites as well you don't call those sites liars as well. Well that just lost you all credibility with me. I could understand you being upset about the score, but to call them liars and defend your claim with other reviewers that cite similar problems but give it higher scores is just ridiculous.

he's not wording what he's trying to say right

yes the framerate dips at times, is it a huge problem? No.

do the controls take some tweaking to find your perfect liking? Yes. What Wii FPS doesn't?

any other issues? none that i have had.

other reviewers have had these issues, and 5 of the 7 reviewers thought the issues were minor enough to justify an AAA/AA score.

and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played it

He'd, (and i too) would prefer ppl to not waste our time posting in threads about how much games are bad when they have no first hand knowledge coz they've never played it, he'd prefer them to say "i played this game and i didn't like it for this, and this, and this, reasons"

Coz that'd be fair. People formed a lot opinions on the Conduit without giving the game a try, and he doesn't want the same thing to happen to a game he likes, MWR.

theres nothing wrong with that, no gamer should want one or two negative reviews (seriously a 7 is negative???? esspecially with all those 9s next to it?) to ruin the perception of a game and have ppl spread stuff around the gaming community that they have no experience knowing whether any issues are true, annoying, or just minor.

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I think the IGN review sounded fair. If anything you're probably whining about the score. I mean, when a game has technical problems points are docked. It's no big deal. It isn't like they said it's a horrible game, it got an above average score and is apparently playable. If you like it than good for you.

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[QUOTE="young80s"][QUOTE="FPS1337"] Not really, the majority of review sights gave it a 9.0, which are 3, 2 8.0, 1 7.5s, and 1 7.0. It's a fun game and I don't want one review to ruin a game like conduit. 1 site doesn't like it so then everyone else notices it's problems instead of embracing the good things about it.darth-pyschosis

Wait, you think theyre lying because they gave it a bad score and yet when ppl say that theyre problems with it are brought up by other sites as well you don't call those sites liars as well. Well that just lost you all credibility with me. I could understand you being upset about the score, but to call them liars and defend your claim with other reviewers that cite similar problems but give it higher scores is just ridiculous.

he's not wording what he's trying to say right

yes the framerate dips at times, is it a huge problem? No.

do the controls take some tweaking to find your perfect liking? Yes. What Wii FPS doesn't?

any other issues? none that i have had.

other reviewers have had these issues, and 5 of the 7 reviewers thought the issues were minor enough to justify an AAA/AA score.

and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played it

He'd, (and i too) would prefer ppl to not waste our time posting in threads about how much games are bad when they have no first hand knowledge coz they've never played it, he'd prefer them to say "i played this game and i didn't like it for this, and this, and this, reasons"

Coz that'd be fair. People formed a lot opinions on the Conduit without giving the game a try, and he doesn't want the same thing to happen to a game he likes, MWR.

theres nothing wrong with that, no gamer should want one or two negative reviews (seriously a 7 is negative???? esspecially with all those 9s next to it?) to ruin the perception of a game and have ppl spread stuff around the gaming community that they have no experience knowing whether any issues are true, annoying, or just minor.

Wow...you handled that rather well. I dont think I could have said that any better.
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#22 young80s
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[QUOTE="young80s"][QUOTE="FPS1337"] Not really, the majority of review sights gave it a 9.0, which are 3, 2 8.0, 1 7.5s, and 1 7.0. It's a fun game and I don't want one review to ruin a game like conduit. 1 site doesn't like it so then everyone else notices it's problems instead of embracing the good things about it.darth-pyschosis

Wait, you think theyre lying because they gave it a bad score and yet when ppl say that theyre problems with it are brought up by other sites as well you don't call those sites liars as well. Well that just lost you all credibility with me. I could understand you being upset about the score, but to call them liars and defend your claim with other reviewers that cite similar problems but give it higher scores is just ridiculous.

he's not wording what he's trying to say right

yes the framerate dips at times, is it a huge problem? No.

do the controls take some tweaking to find your perfect liking? Yes. What Wii FPS doesn't?

any other issues? none that i have had.

other reviewers have had these issues, and 5 of the 7 reviewers thought the issues were minor enough to justify an AAA/AA score.

and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played it

He'd, (and i too) would prefer ppl to not waste our time posting in threads about how much games are bad when they have no first hand knowledge coz they've never played it, he'd prefer them to say "i played this game and i didn't like it for this, and this, and this, reasons"

Coz that'd be fair. People formed a lot opinions on the Conduit without giving the game a try, and he doesn't want the same thing to happen to a game he likes, MWR.

theres nothing wrong with that, no gamer should want one or two negative reviews (seriously a 7 is negative???? esspecially with all those 9s next to it?) to ruin the perception of a game and have ppl spread stuff around the gaming community that they have no experience knowing whether any issues are true, annoying, or just minor.

I'm fine with that but if what your saying is true then hes really got to be a little more careful with this topic
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and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played itdarth-pyschosis

And also spread by many users who HAVE played it.

There's obviously a trust issue going on between gamers and both reviewers and other gamers. We've seen SO many examples of reviewers being plain wrong that it's hard to trust them, and we've also seen many MORE examples of gamers being plain wrong that it's hard to trust each other as well.

The answer always seems to be either "listen to the people who have played the game!" or "play the game yourself!" The former doesn't help because of the aforementioned trust issue, and the latter doesn't help because most of the time, we're looking for other opinions because we haven't decided yet if we really want to play the game.

That's the problem I see. I have no solution. Carry on. :)

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#24 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="young80s"] Wait, you think theyre lying because they gave it a bad score and yet when ppl say that theyre problems with it are brought up by other sites as well you don't call those sites liars as well. Well that just lost you all credibility with me. I could understand you being upset about the score, but to call them liars and defend your claim with other reviewers that cite similar problems but give it higher scores is just ridiculous. gamefan67

he's not wording what he's trying to say right

yes the framerate dips at times, is it a huge problem? No.

do the controls take some tweaking to find your perfect liking? Yes. What Wii FPS doesn't?

any other issues? none that i have had.

other reviewers have had these issues, and 5 of the 7 reviewers thought the issues were minor enough to justify an AAA/AA score.

and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played it

He'd, (and i too) would prefer ppl to not waste our time posting in threads about how much games are bad when they have no first hand knowledge coz they've never played it, he'd prefer them to say "i played this game and i didn't like it for this, and this, and this, reasons"

Coz that'd be fair. People formed a lot opinions on the Conduit without giving the game a try, and he doesn't want the same thing to happen to a game he likes, MWR.

theres nothing wrong with that, no gamer should want one or two negative reviews (seriously a 7 is negative???? esspecially with all those 9s next to it?) to ruin the perception of a game and have ppl spread stuff around the gaming community that they have no experience knowing whether any issues are true, annoying, or just minor.

Wow...you handled that rather well. I dont think I could have said that any better.

thank you!

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played itJordanElek

And also spread by many users who HAVE played it.

There's obviously a trust issue going on between gamers and both reviewers and other gamers. We've seen SO many examples of reviewers being plain wrong that it's hard to trust them, and we've also seen many MORE examples of gamers being plain wrong that it's hard to trust each other as well.

The answer always seems to be either "listen to the people who have played the game!" or "play the game yourself!" The former doesn't help because of the aforementioned trust issue, and the latter doesn't help because most of the time, we're looking for other opinions because we haven't decided yet if we really want to play the game.

That's the problem I see. I have no solution. Carry on. :)

And i'm fine with those users who have played it and don't like it, in the case of the Conduit since i haven't seen a user say much negativity about MWR

i put that in my post that you quoted. I'd prefer these users to play the game and not like it, and go around telling ppl that "i didn't like X about it, or Y sucked about it too" instead of not playing it at all and acting like they had, and saying its bad

i believe you liked the Conduit at first and didn't you lose your likeness for its online as problems began to come up with it? That was you right? (may have you confused with another user) thats what i'm talking about

You played a game, liked or didn't liked it, formed an opinion, and i welcome your opinion because you've played the game

I don't see an issue, listen to the ppl who've played the game period. do not listen to ppl who haven't. listen to the reviewers who've played the game (the reviewers giving MWR 7 and the ones giving it 9)

usually if i can't convince myself to try a game, i don't go posting stuff about it when i know nothing about it first hand. coz, well i didn't play it why would i talk about it like i knew something about it?

there is a trust issue. you can't always trust reviewers and you can't always trust us

for those who need a little pushing, they can look to reviewers/users for advice and should only listen to the users who've got first hand knowledge on the title, but playing the title themselves is the best way to find out obviously

but if they don't play a game i don't think they should act like they know it personally.

they should say "here's a link to a review: it had this control issue, but in this other link the reviewer didn't seem to think that control issue was that big of a deal" if they really want to be helpful

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#26 garrett_duffman
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IGN's complaints are also talked about by other reviews as well

How do you explain them as well?

Jaysonguy
didnt you hear? the reviewer copies of MW:R have all been tampered with by infinity ward so that treyarch doesnt get to work on any more wii call of duty games, its all in the book, you know, THAT book, the book of bull **** conspiracies made by gamespot forum posters.
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Controls are not good and fustrating for people who are used to the PC/Console versions of the game.

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played itJordanElek

And also spread by many users who HAVE played it.

There's obviously a trust issue going on between gamers and both reviewers and other gamers. We've seen SO many examples of reviewers being plain wrong that it's hard to trust them, and we've also seen many MORE examples of gamers being plain wrong that it's hard to trust each other as well.

The answer always seems to be either "listen to the people who have played the game!" or "play the game yourself!" The former doesn't help because of the aforementioned trust issue, and the latter doesn't help because most of the time, we're looking for other opinions because we haven't decided yet if we really want to play the game.

That's the problem I see. I have no solution. Carry on. :)

Nobody wants to hear your logic. You phail for trying to use it:P
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#29 darth-pyschosis
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Controls are not good and fustrating for people who are used to the PC/Console versions of the game.

suntaice

So i see you tried it? What didn't you like about the game in the time you've played it?

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[QUOTE="suntaice"]

Controls are not good and fustrating for people who are used to the PC/Console versions of the game.

darth-pyschosis

So i see you tried it? What didn't you like about the game in the time you've played it?

The cursor is a bit glitchy, when I aim to the left, the reticule goes to the right sometimesas if though there is something blocking it. Im pretty sure the error is noton my side since theres no problem with the reticule/cursor in games like Dead Space E.

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#31 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="suntaice"]

Controls are not good and fustrating for people who are used to the PC/Console versions of the game.

suntaice

So i see you tried it? What didn't you like about the game in the time you've played it?

The cursor is a bit glitchy, when I aim to the left, the reticule goes to the right sometimesas if though there is something blocking it. Im pretty sure the error is noton my side since theres no problem with the reticule/cursor in games like Dead Space E.

Thats too bad. I haven't had this issue, i just got out of a match where i went 26 kills 12 death, best match so far

i've never had this issue, anyone would notice that kinda jitterying, did you adjust any of the settings

how many times has this happened to you and not to sound insulting, but are you absolutely sure you didn't flick your wrist to the right?

i know dumb question, but i've really never had this issue. i'd think i'd have it by now. (nearing 15 hours total for game in a few days)

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i believe you liked the Conduit at first and didn't you lose your likeness for its online as problems began to come up with it? That was you right? (may have you confused with another user) thats what i'm talking aboutdarth-pyschosis
Nah, that wasn't me. I was the one who accused IGN of being paid off by HVS for their glowing previews for a game that looked mediocre at best. As we got more info and more previews and more videos before release, my opinion that the game was no more than mediocre seemed pretty validated, regardless of all the incredible hype surrounding it.

Once the game was released, I rented it, played through the campaign, and spent a few days playing online. My low opinion of the game was actually lowered even farther after actually playing it, even though I was expecting it to be better than I thought it was. I did have fun for a few matches online, but I'm not a big fan of online multiplayer, so it wasn't fun for long.

I guess my point in explaining this is that I trust myself. I was right about The Conduit based on the info I had gathered before release. Since we got so little info on Reflex until release, I wasn't sure what to think, only that I knew the presentation would necessarily take a hit and that the controls could go either way. I've watched several direct feed videos and feel that the presentation does take a major hit because of the lack of graphical power. I can make that judgment without playing it, since I HAVE played the original version.

As for the controls.... I know from experience that an inconsistent framerate takes a toll on the IR pointer for shooting games. The only way I can judge that in Reflex is through reviews and other opinions, and enough people have admitted to framerate dips that I think they really do occur (in the campaign at least... all accounts of multiplayer make it sound like it's not an issue at all online). Now some people might not even notice any issue if it's not a big deal to them. But I know to me, it is a problem.

So I hear what you're saying about people who just like to bash without playing for no good reason. But not everyone is like that.

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Bozon was pissed because he didn't get an early review copy and he wanted to be the first to review the game. That's all there is to it.
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="young80s"] Wait, you think theyre lying because they gave it a bad score and yet when ppl say that theyre problems with it are brought up by other sites as well you don't call those sites liars as well. Well that just lost you all credibility with me. I could understand you being upset about the score, but to call them liars and defend your claim with other reviewers that cite similar problems but give it higher scores is just ridiculous. gamefan67

he's not wording what he's trying to say right

yes the framerate dips at times, is it a huge problem? No.

do the controls take some tweaking to find your perfect liking? Yes. What Wii FPS doesn't?

any other issues? none that i have had.

other reviewers have had these issues, and 5 of the 7 reviewers thought the issues were minor enough to justify an AAA/AA score.

and he's right about the Conduit

thats a game, whether you like it or not (do not start talking about the conduit beyond this subject i'm discussing or else it is disruptive posting so don't be like "ooh the crappy gamez!") has a negative reputation that follows it around here on gamespot that is spread by users who haven't played it

He'd, (and i too) would prefer ppl to not waste our time posting in threads about how much games are bad when they have no first hand knowledge coz they've never played it, he'd prefer them to say "i played this game and i didn't like it for this, and this, and this, reasons"

Coz that'd be fair. People formed a lot opinions on the Conduit without giving the game a try, and he doesn't want the same thing to happen to a game he likes, MWR.

theres nothing wrong with that, no gamer should want one or two negative reviews (seriously a 7 is negative???? esspecially with all those 9s next to it?) to ruin the perception of a game and have ppl spread stuff around the gaming community that they have no experience knowing whether any issues are true, annoying, or just minor.

Wow...you handled that rather well. I dont think I could have said that any better.

Forget what I said earlier, darth already made a great point. Great post!
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you have to stop posting multiple threads about every CoD news that appear. it's called flooding. keep it all in one thread.
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#37 umcommon
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I'm buying the game, the videos looked pretty good to me. Looks to be by far the best shooter on Wii... which really isn't saying much in the large scheme of things other that someone with deep pockets needs to step up and make a FPS game on Wii with as much appeal as Halo or Killzone.