IGN REVIEW: The Last Story (8.5)

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#1 WreckEm711
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http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1219299p1.html

IGN gives upcoming JRPG The Last Story an 8.5!

IGN: "The Last Story swirls the best of JRPG characterisation, presentation, customisation and storytelling together with third-person action combat and elements of stealth and real-time strategy. It's among the best-looking games on the Wii; its visual ****and setting aren't as idiosyncratic as the colourful, vaguely surreal environments of Xenoblade Chronicles, but it handles huge bosses and detailed cities and busy action scenes confidently. It tells a good story that incorporates familiar elements – the orphaned hero, a band of mercenaries who aren't what they seem to be, princesses with magical powers – without relying on them completely."

Thoughts? Personally I'm pleasantly surprised, expected the 6.5-7 range. Just put in my pre-order for a UK import, decided I can't wait until the rest of my fellow Yankees get it :P

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so I'm guessing the graphics prevented it from becoming a 9?

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#3 D4W1L4H
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I'll be picking it up soon! :D

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#4 Sepewrath
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so I'm guessing the graphics prevented it from becoming a 9?

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Does that really matter?
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#5 Regent192
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[QUOTE="Regent192"]

so I'm guessing the graphics prevented it from becoming a 9?

Sepewrath

Does that really matter?

it doesnt

anyways cant wait to get this and xenoblade :D

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#6 so_hai
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I don't understand the comparison of the visuals to the other consoles when it is a Wii exclusive. If they're going to do that, they should mark it higher because the Wii has better graphics than the Atari 2600.
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I don't understand the comparison of the visuals to the other consoles when it is a Wii exclusive. If they're going to do that, they should mark it higher because the Wii has better graphics than the Atari 2600.so_hai

I dont understand the comparison in general for any game.

If a wii game looks really visually appealing, it should score highly. If it doesnt, it shouldn't.

Same for 360/PS3 games, if it looks good, score high, if it doesnt, it shouldn't.

Just because a Wii game is on low end hardware doesnt meant it has to look bad, just because a 360/ps3 game is on higher end hardware comparitavely doesnt mean it has to look good.

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#8 GamerEye
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Once it a release date for it is announced for America I will pre-order it.

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#9 Jaysonguy
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Ouch, so IGN which is pro Nintendo doesn't mark it highly?

I don't know what to make of that really, I'll wait until competent reviewers get their hands on the game

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#10 waitaseck
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I'd say it's ugly for a Wii game alone. Either way, I'm probably going to end up renting it and enjoying it.
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#11 superbuuman
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Well I survived the piece of crap that was Eldar Saga (Wii) ..so pretty much this will be beautiful :P

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#12 JLF1MarkII
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[QUOTE="Regent192"]

so I'm guessing the graphics prevented it from becoming a 9?

Sepewrath

Does that really matter?



Well, when IGN claims it's among the best on the Wii and only gives it a 7.5 it does matter for IGNs credibility.

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#13 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="Regent192"]

so I'm guessing the graphics prevented it from becoming a 9?

JLF1MarkII

Does that really matter?



Well, when IGN claims it's among the best on the Wii and only gives it a 7.5 it does matter for IGNs credibility.

Read the words, don't look at the score. They say it's among the best, a score of one wouldn't change that.

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#14 JLF1MarkII
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Read the words, don't look at the score. They say it's among the best, a score of one wouldn't change that.

meetroid8



I look at the text and see the score. Something doesn't match. Comparing Wii graphics to HD console standards is like comparing 3DS games to Vita games.

If it's among the Wii's best the score should represent that.

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#15 Chojuto
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Personally I'm pleasantly surprised, expected the 6.5-7 range.

WreckEm711

Why did you expect that range?

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#16 Sepewrath
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So what it should have gotten a 10? The score really doesn't matter and its talk like this, is the reason the score system should be thrown out.
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#17 YearoftheSnake5
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Well, since I'm not expecting Final Fantasy XIII graphics, I'll probably love this game.

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#18 BrunoBRS
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it's a good score, and surprisingly a good review (though the reviewer barely describes the multiplayer, which i'm curious about). it's definitely on my must list.
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#19 JLF1MarkII
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So what it should have gotten a 10? The score really doesn't matter and its talk like this, is the reason the score system should be thrown out.Sepewrath

Who said that the score should be 10?

All I want is some standards with scores compared with the text. It's not really the score either, it's the "It might look fantastic for a Wii game but we all know Wii games look pathetic compared to the real systems" attitude from IGN.

There is no reason to throw out the score system.

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#20 Zanoh
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//For the Wii it's super, but-\\ Stop comparing other consoles to one particular game, IGN.

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#21 superbuuman
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Picking it up tonight after work :D

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"For the Wii, it's super, but obviously it doesn't compare that favorably to it's peers on other platforms." Oh, that's just not fair.

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#23 Twisted14
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Good score and sounds good from the review but I find that IGN can over rate some games. I'll just do what I usually do and take them into consideration along with several other reviews and compare.

As for the score for the graphics. We can all argue for the rest of our lives on the importance of graphics in a game, and yes they are not important compared to everything else but what is written for the graphics section and the score is just moronic. The visuals of a game should not be compared with what is on other consoles. It's unprofessional and it contradicts many of their other reviews.

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#24 CTR360
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great reveiw i cant wait
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#25 cosmicwave
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eurogamer.net gave it 7/10. might pick it up sometime today :)

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#26 JordanElek
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Sounds good, and the fact that it's only around 20 hours is actually a plus for me. I'm not entirely sold on the game mechanics, and apparently the story and characters are the strongest aspect of the game, so a relatively shorter game is fine by me.

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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Personally I'm pleasantly surprised, expected the 6.5-7 range.

Chojuto

Why did you expect that range?

Didnt expect it to translate over as well to western audiences as it seems to be
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#28 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Chojuto"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Personally I'm pleasantly surprised, expected the 6.5-7 range.

WreckEm711

Why did you expect that range?

Didnt expect it to translate over as well to western audiences as it seems to be

It's linear with a gimmick control scheme, what seems to be it's hook is the story and all reviewers seem to be saying "if you can get past the visuals and the gameplay you'll like the story and voice work"

Honestly the game does not look good for a Wii game and that's fine, I think the biggest problem is it's linear and a lot of people are going to hate that

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#29 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="Chojuto"]Why did you expect that range?

Jaysonguy

Didnt expect it to translate over as well to western audiences as it seems to be

It's linear with a gimmick control scheme, what seems to be it's hook is the story and all reviewers seem to be saying "if you can get past the visuals and the gameplay you'll like the story and voice work"

Honestly the game does not look good for a Wii game and that's fine, I think the biggest problem is it's linear and a lot of people are going to hate that

Yeah the linearity is a big reason I expected a lower score, we're all used to free movement :P
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"] Didnt expect it to translate over as well to western audiences as it seems to beWreckEm711

It's linear with a gimmick control scheme, what seems to be it's hook is the story and all reviewers seem to be saying "if you can get past the visuals and the gameplay you'll like the story and voice work"

Honestly the game does not look good for a Wii game and that's fine, I think the biggest problem is it's linear and a lot of people are going to hate that

Yeah the linearity is a big reason I expected a lower score, we're all used to free movement :P

That's the one thing that killed Final Fantasy and sent it from elite game to just a good game for some people

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#31 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It's linear with a gimmick control scheme, what seems to be it's hook is the story and all reviewers seem to be saying "if you can get past the visuals and the gameplay you'll like the story and voice work"

Honestly the game does not look good for a Wii game and that's fine, I think the biggest problem is it's linear and a lot of people are going to hate that

Jaysonguy

Yeah the linearity is a big reason I expected a lower score, we're all used to free movement :P

That's the one thing that killed Final Fantasy and sent it from elite game to just a good game for some people

I think Bethesda and BioWare helped with that. Back on the PS1 and kind of the PS2, people had no problem with it becase most of us never knew we could get a massive, open ended world :P Bethesda really mainstreamed large, open ended environments, and BioWare mainstreamed the dynamic story aspecs in games. After playing something where you could dictate the fate of a crew, or crawl all over a decimated city, running down hallways in FF only to uncover more story that you HAVE to follow seems so restricting.

I think all of that is also why Xenoblade is so well received, because it strays from the stereotype while remaining true to the genre. The story isn't dynamic, but you can approach it at your own pace and there is a huge world to explore and quest in until you do decide to tackle it.

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^I don't agree with that at all. Not every game needs to be Skyrim, there is just as much room for a super linear experience like Uncharted or Halo as there is for an open ended one. Comparison to something that a game isn't trying to be, is like comparing Mario Kart to Street Fighter, Mario Kart is not trying to be a fighting game and Street Fighter isn't trying to be a racing game. If this game was striving to be like a Bethesda game and came up short, a comparison would be accurate. But since its making no effort to be a massive open ended world, there is little reason to compare it to one.
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#34 Michael0134567
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Lol wow,good job comparing a Wii game in graphics to the Xbox 360 and PS3 in a "professional" review.

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#35 WreckEm711
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^I don't agree with that at all. Not every game needs to be Skyrim, there is just as much room for a super linear experience like Uncharted or Halo as there is for an open ended one. Comparison to something that a game isn't trying to be, is like comparing Mario Kart to Street Fighter, Mario Kart is not trying to be a fighting game and Street Fighter isn't trying to be a racing game. If this game was striving to be like a Bethesda game and came up short, a comparison would be accurate. But since its making no effort to be a massive open ended world, there is little reason to compare it to one. Sepewrath
Didn't say it needs to be, so there's nothing for you to disagree with :? Are you really going to argue though that the extreme linearity, which has lead to a sharp decline in the series popularity is angoodnthing because that's what it's "trying" to do?
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#36 Sepewrath
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Yes. If a game is designed to be linear, then its linear. You shouldn't take an idea and try and apply an open world formula to it, just because games X, Y and Z are open world. Take Call of Duty as an example, the game is just one giant set piece, if it tried to have open level design like a Battlefield map, it wouldn't work. The idea isn't designed for that. You can take a good idea and ruin it, by applying it to the wrong format; especially if your choosing that format, solely for the sake of making it more marketable. Not every RPG has to be open ended, even in the Final Fantasy series.
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#37 WreckEm711
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Well glad to see you're still taking things in one extreme or the other :P
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#38 KBFloYd
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hmmm...xenoblade always spoke out to me more...after i beat xenoblade...ill check some videos of last story but looks like i might not get this...

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="Chojuto"]Why did you expect that range?

Didnt expect it to translate over as well to western audiences as it seems to be

It's linear with a gimmick control scheme, what seems to be it's hook is the story and all reviewers seem to be saying "if you can get past the visuals and the gameplay you'll like the story and voice work"

Honestly the game does not look good for a Wii game and that's fine, I think the biggest problem is it's linear and a lot of people are going to hate that

Linear style progression is a neutral feature to me - it's what happens within the game framework that matters. Anyhow, the campaign in any game is always linear.
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#40 Vickman178
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Ouch, so IGN which is pro Nintendo doesn't mark it highly?

I don't know what to make of that really, I'll wait until competent reviewers get their hands on the game

Jaysonguy

An 8.5 isn't a good score? What is wrong with you people why does every game have to get a 9 or above to be good.

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#41 so_hai
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[QUOTE="Vickman178"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Ouch, so IGN which is pro Nintendo doesn't mark it highly?

I don't know what to make of that really, I'll wait until competent reviewers get their hands on the game

An 8.5 isn't a good score? What is wrong with you people why does every game have to get a 9 or above to be good.

People want everything to be that (dubious) rating of AAA. I think because people want to be respected for having a Wii and having good games on it - which is fair enough I guess...
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#42 CTR360
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i buy last story next week i cant wait i dont expect last story beat xenoblade on review score
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#43 Maroxad
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That is a good score. I cant wait to try it out myself. I am really tempted to purchase it now.

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#44 haziqonfire
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There's nothing wrong with going the linear route. That's the game the developers created, it's unfair to review to expect it to be open world when it's not trying to be that. It's the very same thing that happened with Metroid: Other M. A lot of people were expecting that to be a return to form a la Super Metroid but that's not what the game was designed as, and it's unfair to expect it to be that and criticize it for something it's not.
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#45 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Ouch, so IGN which is pro Nintendo doesn't mark it highly?

I don't know what to make of that really, I'll wait until competent reviewers get their hands on the game

Vickman178

An 8.5 isn't a good score? What is wrong with you people why does every game have to get a 9 or above to be good.

Compared to the whining about it 8.5 is a downright awful score.

The amount of noise from this game means that it would need to score in the top ten percentile to even begin to justify all this noise.

All it shows is that people weren't making noise for steak, they were making this noise for a boiled hot dog

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#46 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Vickman178"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Ouch, so IGN which is pro Nintendo doesn't mark it highly?

I don't know what to make of that really, I'll wait until competent reviewers get their hands on the game

Jaysonguy

An 8.5 isn't a good score? What is wrong with you people why does every game have to get a 9 or above to be good.

Compared to the whining about it 8.5 is a downright awful score.

The amount of noise from this game means that it would need to score in the top ten percentile to even begin to justify all this noise.

All it shows is that people weren't making noise for steak, they were making this noise for a boiled hot dog

Why do you keep coming here?Your trolling isn't funny anymore.

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#47 haziqonfire
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Compared to the whining about it 8.5 is a downright awful score.

The amount of noise from this game means that it would need to score in the top ten percentile to even begin to justify all this noise.

All it shows is that people weren't making noise for steak, they were making this noise for a boiled hot dog

Jaysonguy

That must mean it's excellent.

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#48 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Compared to the whining about it 8.5 is a downright awful score.

The amount of noise from this game means that it would need to score in the top ten percentile to even begin to justify all this noise.

All it shows is that people weren't making noise for steak, they were making this noise for a boiled hot dog

Haziqonfire

That must mean it's excellent.

Boiled hot dog is not noise worthy lol

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#49 Sepewrath
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Hot dogs are great, especially a Nathan's. Its un American to suggest otherwise.
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#50 Jaysonguy
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Hot dogs are great, especially a Nathan's. Its un American to suggest otherwise. Sepewrath

Steak is more American, this country was built on steak. (god what a delicious foundation if that were literal)

The point being no one makes noise for second best, steak is worth noise but a hot dog?

The Last Story is nothing but a boiled hot dog, noise like this should be about steak and that's it.