I'm so tired of the Melee vs Brawl argument!

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#1 blazingneo32089
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I don't get it! Why people hate Brawl so much and say Melle was better? Brawl has better graphics, more characters, more stages(STAGE BUILDER), a story mode(SUBSPACE EMISSARY), and ONLINE!!! Melee had CLONES! At least in Brawl, few characters have minor similarities! The only thing I can say is that I wasn't as excited nor thrilled with Brawl as I was when Melee came out. Thats because I played Melee for 8 YEARS until Brawl came out and the gameplay is the same. For those that say its easier, shut up. Its easier because we played Melee! For those who never played Melee and Brawl was there first game, it would be challenging. And Roy ain't THAT GREAT. I loved him too but he was a more stronger version of Marth with fire power. Simple! And Mewtwo wasn't great neither and I liked him too. So quit hating on a superior game!
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#2 jnjreams76
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it's obvious you're tired of the argument.
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#3 FooFighter92
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Though I haven't seen much of that argument around here I do agree with you brawl is better
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#4 randomwiiplayer
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it's obvious you're tired of the argument.jnjreams76

Lol.

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#5 trugs26
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Well I haven't heard this argument much, but in my opinion Melee is better. I've played both of them to death, and I like them both a lot, it's just that Roy was my character! Now I've gotta settle for Marth.

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#6 Crazyguy105
Member since 2009 • 9513 Posts

I'm tired of it too.

But just ignore it.

I enjoy Brawl a lot more then Melee but I can see why people prefer Melee over Brawl.

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#7 bob_newman
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Who's arguing? What are you talking about?

I haven't heard people argue over the two games since Brawl came out.

So what are you talking about? Were you making these arguments up in your head?

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#8 DeeDeeDee-er
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[QUOTE="jnjreams76"]it's obvious you're tired of the argument.randomwiiplayer

Lol.

I 2nd the lolling
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#9 Chargeagles1
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Brawl does NOT have online. If you call that piece of crap, which takes 1/2 hour to find somebody to play, and then lags, online play than you are in denial. Even with the best connections, playing against my friends (who also had great connections) led to the whole screen freezing.

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#10 blazingneo32089
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Brawl does NOT have online. If you call that piece of crap, which takes 1/2 hour to find somebody to play, and then lags, online play than you are in denial. Even with the best connections, playing against my friends (who also had great connections) led to the whole screen freezing.

Chargeagles1
Well ok its not XBL but its something! XD! I'm just saying Brawl has more content than Melee. Sorry its really my friends who talk about. lol
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#11 its_a_username
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="jnjreams76"]it's obvious you're tired of the argument.DeeDeeDee-er

Lol.

I 2nd the lolling

i third the lolling

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#12 Chargeagles1
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[QUOTE="Chargeagles1"]

Brawl does NOT have online. If you call that piece of crap, which takes 1/2 hour to find somebody to play, and then lags, online play than you are in denial. Even with the best connections, playing against my friends (who also had great connections) led to the whole screen freezing.

blazingneo32089

Well ok its not XBL but its something! XD! I'm just saying Brawl has more content than Melee. Sorry its really my friends who talk about. lol

It does have more content, but I wholly prefer the fast pace of Melee over brawl. I've played over 2,000 hours of melee, and only 390 hours of brawl. I hated how they made Jigglypuff's down b move useless, and how they made ganondorf slower and less powerful.

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#13 Cruse34
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I played melee for probably 500 hours and was really excited for brawl but it sucks. Its like an updated port of melee and the new characters moves were horrible. The stage buldier and storymode were crap. Melee was so much better even if falco was way stronger than everybody else it made it fun

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#14 sman3579
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people dont argue about the game anymore........... do they?

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#15 Pyro767
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People just miss wave dashing and L canceling, they don't really hate brawl.
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#16 blazingneo32089
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people dont argue about the game anymore........... do they?

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Some people at my college do
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#17 BrunoBRS
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i havent seen any argument about it in a while... anyways, do like i do: just ignore them and keep enjoying it. although i have to admit i couldnt get as addicted to brawl (i dont even play it anymore) as i were to melee (over 5 years owning it and i never got tired. sure, i played other games, but i was always up to play some melee). i'd guess it's either the interface, the graphics (too serious perhaps?) or both. to be honest, i have no idea.
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#18 bobdood99
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Lucas is awesome.
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#19 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="blazingneo32089"][QUOTE="Chargeagles1"]

Brawl does NOT have online. If you call that piece of crap, which takes 1/2 hour to find somebody to play, and then lags, online play than you are in denial. Even with the best connections, playing against my friends (who also had great connections) led to the whole screen freezing.

Chargeagles1

Well ok its not XBL but its something! XD! I'm just saying Brawl has more content than Melee. Sorry its really my friends who talk about. lol

It does have more content, but I wholly prefer the fast pace of Melee over brawl. I've played over 2,000 hours of melee, and only 390 hours of brawl. I hated how they made Jigglypuff's down b move useless, and how they made ganondorf slower and less powerful.

isnt it ironic that a thread about a guy who's fed up with brawl VS meele discussions actually created a brawl VS melee thread? :P
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#20 garrett_duffman
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I havent seen one of these threads in a while... and its fact that melee is better.
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#21 07pops07
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some people still think counter strike is better the cs:s and they always will just because they one dont like change and two glorified it and when something elsecomes along it doesnt matter its almost the same game. newer isnt always better but its not always a bad thing either......

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#22 Jelley0
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Lucas.

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#23 Starguy24
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For some reason a part of me has always liked Melee better, but Brawl is good too. I guess I liked it less because I was really blown away with Melee and when Brawl came out it all seemed familiar to me. Maybe it's because I just have better memories of playing th heck out of certain games and then when the sequel comes out I have a hard time accepting that it's better, too. You can't go wrong with either game, though.
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#24 alber
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Why do you start a thread about it if you're tired...
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#25 wooooode
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Well I haven't heard this argument much, but in my opinion Melee is better. I've played both of them to death, and I like them both a lot, it's just that Roy was my character! Now I've gotta settle for Marth.

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#26 trugs26
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[QUOTE="trugs26"]

Well I haven't heard this argument much, but in my opinion Melee is better. I've played both of them to death, and I like them both a lot, it's just that Roy was my character! Now I've gotta settle for Marth.

wooooode

Yeah "Roys our Boy".


Ah those were the days.

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#27 wurmie
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They're both very fun games

Happy now?

:lol:

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#28 wiifan001
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Both of them are some of the best games for each system that it was on. I hope we can all agree to that extent.
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#29 virus1000
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I never played Melee but I loved Brawl.

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#30 Solid_Snake325
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That is a tough one, but I think I like Melee more.
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#31 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="sman3579"]

people dont argue about the game anymore........... do they?

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Some people at my college do

Ok so bring it up with them...why come here and make a statement that doesn't apply to us?
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#32 wiifan001
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Come to think of it, I haven't seen any Brawl vs. Melee topics in a while around here.
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#33 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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People just miss wave dashing and L canceling, they don't really hate brawl.Pyro767
Generalizations and assumptions are fun. Oh,and here's everything I disliked about Brawl.Note how I don't even mention wave dashing and L-canceling.

[spoiler]

 

*CIassic mode doesn't feel as fun without minigames like "Collect the trophies!","Board the Platforms!,or "Race to the Finish!" Just having the Target Attack alone makes for a somewhat less interesting experience. *Target Attack itself is less interesting.Having every character "attack" the same stages makes it feel repetitive,and I very much preferred it when the stages were built to each characters unique abilities. *The Event Mode is uninspired,too easy,and anticlimactic.I remember working for days to try and defeat all of the really inspired and varied events in Melee; it took me a couple hours,in one sitting,to beat all the events in Brawl. *The Subspace Emissary is terrible.It's actually worse than the Adventure mode in Melee.In Melee,the Adventure mode wasn't the best in the world,but the game knew its limits; it didn't try to tell a story (Brawl's was disjointed and awful) and it didn't try to apply the formula into a type of genre it wasn't meant to be.But you have to play through it to unlock some of the gameplay modes,so you can't ignore it.And it's the intended way of unlocking characters.Which leads me to... *The manner of unlocking characters is terrible.The game practically gives them to you,and you don't really need to work for them.Sure,you could unlock the characters like you did in Melee,but since you have to play through the Subspace Emissary anyways,there's no point. *None of the content is really that good.I mean,fan service is nice,but it's not like having a bunch of stickers in the game will significantly impact my gameplay experience. *I would actually state that the game locks too much away.Why must we have to unlock characters in Brawl that were available right from the start of the previous Smash Brothers games?And to take a page from the Yahtzee critique,advertising characters on the back of the box,and then forcing the player to work for at least a dozen hours to unlock them is just plain dumb. *The Masterpiece demos are useless.Too short to get any true taste of how the games will play. *Yes,the game has a great soundtrack,and I still pop in the disc to listen to it.But that doesn't change the fact that the sound design is inconsistent.Some of the remixes sound kind of uninspired,and placing updated tracks right beside original tracks from the original games makes for a less cohesive sound design. *The stages aren't great.Most of them feel either too basic and/or have gimmicks that aren't fun and merely get in the way of the core gameplay.Melee did have stages with unique attributes to them,as well,but almost none of them had elements that get in the way or detract from the core. *The online mode is bare-bones and lacking.It could have been great,but once again,Nintendo botches the online system of another one of their games. [/spoiler] :)
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#34 garrett_duffman
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also, I liked actually unlocking characters, SSE also sucked.
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#35 enterawesome
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I don't see anybody arguing, though Brawl is superior in every shape and form. Okay, so the characters move .0000001% slower, what a huge, massive factor that breaks the game. :roll: It's the same exact thing, only with ten times more content and better graphics and sound. Melee is an excellent game, but Brawl is everything Melee was but way more. The one thing Melee is more superior in is menus. The main menu music and look for Brawl is nowhere near as epic as it was for Melee.
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I don't see anybody arguing, though Brawl is superior in every shape and form. Okay, so the characters move .0000001% slower, what a huge, massive factor that breaks the game. :roll: It's the same exact thing, only with ten times more content and better graphics and sound. Melee is an excellent game, but Brawl is everything Melee was but way more. The one thing Melee is more superior in is menus. The main menu music and look for Brawl is nowhere near as epic as it was for Melee.enterawesome

...I assume you didn't read my criticisms just a few posts above?

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#37 GamerForca
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It's not really much of an argument.. Melee was just better. I liked Stage Builder and the single player campaign, but Brawl's online is a piece of garbage and Melee had much more fluid gameplay.
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#38 MetallicaItalia
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Most people who hate brawl are the tourney nerds who played on final destination with no items. Fox vs. Fox vs. Fox vs. Fox. They'd speed around all game and do their little movement exploits. They hate smash balls, they think that Brawl's slower speed makes it easier. They're idiots who don't know how t have fun. In Melee I used Sheik and Roy. Though I miss Roy I have plenty of fun with Ike. I seem to have a lot of trouble with Sheik in Brawl so I stick with Zelda as my main.

My biggest beef with Brawl:

Bowser's character redesign - scaly raptor (not elephant) legs, gradient hair, and more pronounced spikes from melee was far more badass IMO

Lucario but no Mewtwo - bullcrap IMO

I really wanted more villains (K. ROOL) Wolf was a great addition though

There's some more issues. Overall Brawl is basically the same expierence to me with a few differences and a lot more content.

The only reason I'd play Melee is for nosalgia, my old favorite characters and some of the character designs I simply like better.

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#39 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Pyro767"]People just miss wave dashing and L canceling, they don't really hate brawl.VGobbsesser

Generalizations and assumptions are fun. Oh,and here's everything I disliked about Brawl.Note how I don't even mention wave dashing and L-canceling.

*long ass list of complaints and nitpicks*

so you basically hated everything about the game :roll:

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#40 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]People just miss wave dashing and L canceling, they don't really hate brawl.Shinobishyguy

Generalizations and assumptions are fun. Oh,and here's everything I disliked about Brawl.Note how I don't even mention wave dashing and L-canceling.

*long ass list of complaints and nitpicks*

so you basically hated everything about the game :roll:

Better to give a list of what I disliked about the game than to just go around around saying "I hate it" without backing up why I dislike it,no?

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#41 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Generalizations and assumptions are fun. Oh,and here's everything I disliked about Brawl.Note how I don't even mention wave dashing and L-canceling.

*long ass list of complaints and nitpicks*VGobbsesser

so you basically hated everything about the game :roll:

Better to give a list of what I disliked about the game than to just go around around saying "I hate it" without backing up why I dislike it,no?

so there's basically nothing about the game you actually like? Why did you give it an 8.5 as opposed to a 4.0 or whatever?

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#42 AlmightyDerek
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Yeah until this post I didn't even know there was a debate. I guess there is now though. Brawl is slightly better than Melee in every way, so logically Brawl is the better game (although not much). Of course I only play with Kirby and he is exactly the same in both games (I've at least never noticed any difference). So for me its just a difference in graphics and content and Brawl wins that easily. Also the online works pretty well for me, it could have been better but I'm happy with it. Of course I have heard people say the N64 version was the best, those people are the craziest of all.

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#43 HipYoungster42
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lol You know all you're doin' is sparking another Brawl vs. Melee argument?:P

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#44 Cruse34
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I don't see anybody arguing, though Brawl is superior in every shape and form. Okay, so the characters move .0000001% slower, what a huge, massive factor that breaks the game. :roll: It's the same exact thing, only with ten times more content and better graphics and sound. Melee is an excellent game, but Brawl is everything Melee was but way more. The one thing Melee is more superior in is menus. The main menu music and look for Brawl is nowhere near as epic as it was for Melee.enterawesome

Your right theres more content in Brawl Excpet its the new content that I didn't like Boss Battle mode was horrible along with everything else

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#45 OreoMilkshake
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Melee is faster paced and has more glitches.
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#46 HipYoungster42
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Melee is faster paced and has more glitches.OreoMilkshake

Glitches make a game good? I thought glitches were the very thing that The Conduit was criticized for.:?

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#47 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Melee is faster paced and has more glitches.HipYoungster42

Glitches make a game good? I thought glitches were the very thing that The Conduit was criticized for.:?

Glitches that help you screw your opponents over. Not game breaking glitches.
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#48 swrdof1000trths
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Brawl has more content but Melee had better gameplay. Brawl ended up being too defensive. In the end I prefer Melee but Brawl was still great.
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#49 Vari3ty
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This was even an argument? I thought Brawl was better hands down. It certainly was more polished nobody can deny that.

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#50 carter15kd5
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brawl takes less skill to master while melee took more skill and timing to master

wavedashing

L- Cancelling

kinda like when mario kart wii took away snakingand made mario kart less skillful