Is Punch Out a 1st party or 3rd party game?

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#1 Vic-Ferrari
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I read that 1st party games never go down in price but 3rd party games do. So which category does Punch Out fall under?

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#2 elbert_b_23
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i think its a secant party
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#3 chris3116
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It's more like a 2nd party (a game that is owned by Nintendo but made by somebody else). The game should have a price drop. If Excitebots (another game like that) can have a price drop, why not Punch-Out. The big games from Nintendo (Mario Galaxy, Zelda, SSBB)didn't have a price drop yet.

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#4 OreoMilkshake
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Nintendo owned IP = First Party. Doesn't matter who developed it.
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#5 Rocky32189
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It's first party. Any game that is published by Nintendo is first party.
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#6 nintendo-wins
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The game is first-party as Nintendo owns the rights of Punch-Out!. It is irrelevant who develops the game, whether it is Nintendo's internal studios (e.g. EAD Tokyo), Alphadreams (second party), or New Level Games (third party).

A good indication on whether a game is first-party or not is whether Nintendo appears next to the copyright symbol (©).

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#7 HipYoungster42
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It's a second party game. Because of that, I doubt it'll go down in price anytime soon; as long as Nintendo owns the right to the franchise, it'll probably stay at $50 for the rest of the Wii's lifespan. Sad, but true.:P

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#8 nintendo-wins
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It's a second party game.

HipYoungster42

There is no such thing as a second-party game. Either it is either first-party (Nintendo) or third-party (e.g. Square-Enix).

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#9 HipYoungster42
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There is no such thing as a second-party game.

nintendo-wins

:? Ya' there is.

A second-party developer is one that creates games exclusively for Nintendo systems through a contract agreement. Nintendo may or may not own a percentage of the studio, but not enough to give it a controlling interest.

-Wikipedia

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#10 tominator1
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Yes there are second party developers. Probably the one that most people are familiar with is Rare. Rare used to be a Nintendo second party developer; it was independent but developed games exclusively for Nintendo. Now that the evil coorporation we know as Microsoft owns them they are a first party developer for them. Punch Out!! itself was developed by Next Level Games, a third party developer. However, since Nintendo does own the origional rights to the Punch Out series this is sorta like a second party game.

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#11 nintendo-wins
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[QUOTE="nintendo-wins"]

There is no such thing as a second-party game.

HipYoungster42

:? Ya' there is.

A second-party developer is one that creates games exclusively for Nintendo systems through a contract agreement. Nintendo may or may not own a percentage of the studio, but not enough to give it a controlling interest.

-Wikipedia

You are quoting the definition of a second-party developer, not a second-party game.

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#12 -John_Connor-
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Gotta agree with you that there is no such thing as a 2nd party published game!

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#13 nintendo-wins
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It's first party. Any game that is published by Nintendo is first party.Rocky32189

That is a half-truth, as there were games in the past that Nintendo published but does not own the copyright the IP (e.g. Mario & Sonic at the Winter Games). The example game was developed by Sonic Team and published by Nintendo in Japan (it was published by Sega overseas), but the IP is owned by the International Olympic Committee even though it contains Mario and Sonic characters (the characters are licensed by Nintendo and Sega respectively).