I've given up

As stated on IGN there clearly are a lot of hardcore games coming for Wii and a lot of cool ideas for soft core/casual stuff. BUT casual games could have easily become hardcore. If Nintendo relased Wii Sports Online for people who wanted to play real competitive doubles tennis or boxing or golf, they could have. Bowling has no opposition so once you get the feel people could start bowling easy 300s and baseball just wasn't quite deep enough but there was still some competition to be had there.

So many of these games COULD be hardcore including Wii Sports Resort which looks really awesome. But it needs online play.

Smash could have set its limits to 2 player, 3 stock brawls. But really tried to squeeze the best possible response time out of it, that would have been major.

They've blown it for me. Maybe with their next console they'll win me back. I was a big Wii fan, I waited for it at launch overnight (brought a tent). And I've waited a year and a half just to hear some good news on the online front. So for now it's off to the 360 and DS forums for the next few years.

Animal Crossing is the perfect example of a game that Causal gamers will love but can be a real hardcore challenge... I have played so many hours on the DS version and I still havent caught every fish, got every painting, or caught every bug... the game can be really brutal with stuff like thatag1052

Yea but the ds version was for the hardcore. To get your biggest house I added up the bells you need to pay and it totals over 2 million:o

[QUOTE="ag1052"]Animal Crossing is the perfect example of a game that Causal gamers will love but can be a real hardcore challenge... I have played so many hours on the DS version and I still havent caught every fish, got every painting, or caught every bug... the game can be really brutal with stuff like thatdoctores143

Yea but the ds version was for the hardcore. To get your biggest house I added up the bells you need to pay and it totals over 2 million:o

As stated on IGN there clearly are a lot of hardcore games coming for Wii and a lot of cool ideas for soft core/casual stuff. BUT casual games could have easily become hardcore. If Nintendo relased Wii Sports Online for people who wanted to play real competitive doubles tennis or boxing or golf, they could have. Bowling has no opposition so once you get the feel people could start bowling easy 300s and baseball just wasn't quite deep enough but there was still some competition to be had there.

So many of these games COULD be hardcore including Wii Sports Resort which looks really awesome. But it needs online play.

Smash could have set its limits to 2 player, 3 stock brawls. But really tried to squeeze the best possible response time out of it, that would have been major.

They've blown it for me. Maybe with their next console they'll win me back. I was a big Wii fan, I waited for it at launch overnight (brought a tent). And I've waited a year and a half just to hear some good news on the online front. So for now it's off to the 360 and DS forums for the next few years.

A7Xfan

You are so right about the online capabilities for Wii Sports. Too bad they brought out the title before they announced Wi-Fi. I've only seen 3 games on Wii Sports Resort but I don't think that package would do that well online as much as the original Wii Sports would. Baseball would just be very weird because auto-fielding is in place. For the other games it would work.